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[News] Google will remotly install new code

are you confortable with that?
When 21 rogue apps started siphoning off identifying information from Android phones and installing security holes, Google yanked the lot from Android Market, and called the authorities to boot. But what of the 50,000 copies already downloaded by unwitting users? That's what Google's dealing with this week, by utilizing Android's remote kill switch to delete them over the air.
But that's not all, because this time the company isn't just removing offending packages, but also installing new code. The "Android Market Security Tool March 2011" will be remotely added to affected handsets to undo the exploit and keep it from sending your data out, as well as make you wonder just how much remote control Google has over our phones. Yes, we welcome our new Search Engine overlords and all that, so long as they've got our best interests at heart, but there's a certain irony in Google removing a backdoor exploit by using a backdoor exploit of its own -- even one that (in this case) will email you to report what it's done.
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Source:
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/03/update-on-android-market-security.html
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/google-flips-android-kill-switch-destroys-a-batch-of-malicious/

Im sure if you were on the receiving end with a malware infested phone you'd be thanking google for remotely fixing your phone, i guess only when they start abusing that power will people get annoyed and demand change.

I guess that the end justifies the means in this case...

Yeh I'm fine with that. I doubt Google will abuse this feature- look at the negative backlash that Amazon had for remotely deleting from customers Kindles.

msolus said:
Yeh I'm fine with that. I doubt Google will abuse this feature.
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I'm not quite sure about that!, but well i'm probably too much old school, maybe a bit paranoid or conservative =).
The "For your own good", never sound well to my hears, anyway don't be surprise if Microsoft start doing that, one day, on your personal desktop/laptop.
Starting slow by removing trojan apps and one day, choosing what you have to use or not without your consentment?...not really GNU/GPL.
Google already know, who you are, which face you have (ty the front camera ^^), who are your friend, where you live, who you call, your habits etc... a way to much in one hand.
"Don't be Evil" they said (i'm still laughing on that)

I don't see anything wrong with this, and I think if Google ever decides to use this function for 'evil' it will get so much bad rep, that it's just not worth it.

How do you know they see all those things? Android is open source, and I doubt the Android-versions that is sent to the OEM's has these spy-code inside. Don't think they would agree with that, because of potential lawsuits and problems, e.g. EU-related problems.

I don't mind at all.. They have the power on Chrome too, and they never abuse it. I trust Google, I just woudn't trust Apple.

OP, Google already have your gmail, contacts, coordinates, search history, credit card number, and God only knows what else. This tiny little thingie won't change anything. However, they'd better remotely install Gingerbread on my phone, lol.

Unrealwolf said:
OP, Google already have your gmail, contacts, coordinates, search history, credit card number, and God only knows what else. This tiny little thingie won't change anything. However, they'd better remotely install Gingerbread on my phone, lol.
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I'm afraid by what i see here (but i don't blame anyone), everyone agree...well, maybe a different generation or perhaps my job force me to be more sensitive to that kind of things...who now
Unrealwolf, most of my data are fake: google account, no contact, neither sync, and no way i'll give my credit card number/real name or more.
But hey let's see how it'll go (the result in a couple of years will not be a surprise for me)

Microsoft did install a 'Malicious Software Removel Tool'. And have updates that are installed silently (but that happens very rarely).
And through the normal update process they can install everything they want.

personal info already leak out to everywhere since you born, do you have a mobile, in a school, bank account, visa,diving license, etc... just live with it.
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Is it really the first time that Google installed things remotely? At least they updated apps without interaction on my mobile. And these updates can contain any code they want. So who saves you from Trojans that come inside, say, Maps? Also, some devs showed that apps can install other apps without the user even notices that (I think there was a malicious angry birds app)
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I am thankfull as they state only being sent to infected phones as we have few android phones and only my one got message so yes im glad there doing this
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retskrad said:
How do you know they see all those things? Android is open source, and I doubt the Android-versions that is sent to the OEM's has these spy-code inside. Don't think they would agree with that, because of potential lawsuits and problems, e.g. EU-related problems.
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Well going by the trouble that Google got with street view in the EU, im not sure they'd like to risk more fines

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i love the idea
that will keep our phones clean, and warez free
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Would be better to fix the bugs, though...
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Not too comfortable with this because if google can do it even a hacker can do it.
Also I noticed that after I did a search for CMS in google, the next day I got email from a CMS vendor, so think about it, very weird to the say the least. This has happened many times.
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And Elvis is still alive...
Google has already an app with root and net access on the phone: the Market (or the services behind). Otherwise they could not install or uninstall anything on the phone. And yes, market is able to install without notifying the user. But if they're doing this well and encrypt the communication, no hacker should be able to use this feature to break into your phone.
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And Elvis is still alive...
Google has already an app with root and net access on the phone: the Market (or the services behind). Otherwise they could not install or uninstall anything on the phone. And yes, market is able to install without notifying the user. But if they're doing this well and encrypt the communication, no hacker should be able to use this feature to break into your phone.
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My grandma said: never say never
Well it's not really about hacker problem, it's more about a non gouvernmental entity with that much power...but well some can live with it, i just can't.

FM Radio in the Note 4

T-mobile is locking down the FM radio tuner in our Note 4.
It is built in to all models but the carriers choose to restrict the chip. It's very popular in other countries and they refuse to explain why they won't let consumers access the feature and pretend like it doesn't exist for our phones.
The Sprint version can use the Nextradio App to use the FM tuner because Sprint has a deal with the app makers for an ad revenue cut.
T-mobile pretends to be the UNcarrier and I switched to them from Verizon for that reason but it seems that they're just as bad as Verizon with painfully slow updates and locked down features.
There is already a campaign to contact the carriers and convince them to unlock the feature http://freeradioonmyphone.org/.
Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? I would threaten to switch to Sprint but that's an empty threat because everyone knows their service is hot garbage.
Would be great if there was a softmod solution for root users but I don't think this is possible....

I would also like to see this feature active on my n4.
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Message sent. Now I wait. ?
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I tweeted
@JohnLegere @Tmobile John why can't we have FM radio. Tmobile claims Music Freedom but Sprint wins this round.
Maybe everyone who wants this feature should do the same.

Although it sounds like a great idea, I'm wondering if they would have to resubmit for FCC certification to enable it. If that's the case, it's NOT going to happen.

I dont think radio is locked, it probably doesn't exist in Tmo Note 4. Sprint version most likely using different modem which has fm capability.
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Will be awesome especially for those international trips

I have no idea if maybe the Tmobile, AT&T, and Verizon versions don't have it but I really don't think this is the case although it is possible that it is physically disabled.
As far as FCC re-certification I wouldn't be surprised if the FCC was willing to give a pass...
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/2015/03/fm-smartphone-chips-a-necessity-house-dems-tell-wheeler/

I miss this feature that once graced my old HTC devices.

If you are truly unhappy with T-Mobile then switch. No one is stopping you. The whole thing about updates being slow is taken out of context because, for one, you act as if everyone has Lollipop already which is untrue. And two, I can count many other times where T-Mobile was in fact first to the punch and some times where they actually skipped an update because a newer one quickly came out. Going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 and skipping 4.4.3 for example. Do not completely discredit the carrier because of one minor misstep or because some feature we really don't know why isn't on our phones. There's plenty of online radio apps out there and iheart radio has many local stations.
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dkb218 said:
I miss this feature that once graced my old HTC devices.
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It was okay at first, but the fact that you needed headphones plugged in (i guess to act as an antenna?) ruined it for me.

tkoreaper said:
If you are truly unhappy with T-Mobile then switch. No one is stopping you. The whole thing about updates being slow is taken out of context because, for one, you act as if everyone has Lollipop already which is untrue. And two, I can count many other times where T-Mobile was in fact first to the punch and some times where they actually skipped an update because a newer one quickly came out. Going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 and skipping 4.4.3 for example. Do not completely discredit the carrier because of one minor misstep or because some feature we really don't know why isn't on our phones. There's plenty of online radio apps out there and iheart radio has many local stations.
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It was okay at first, but the fact that you needed headphones plugged in (i guess to act as an antenna?) ruined it for me.
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People in poor signal areas might not be able to use iheart. For example my coverage in my local park is bad, or was last year anyway, waiting for nice weather to go back, and if I enjoyed FM radio then having the ability to use my phone to do so would be nice without having to hope I have a data signal.
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nosympathy said:
People in poor signal areas might not be able to use iheart. For example my coverage in my local park is bad, or was last year anyway, waiting for nice weather to go back, and if I enjoyed FM radio then having the ability to use my phone to do so would be nice without having to hope I have a data signal.
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If loading your phone up with some MP3s somehow isn't good enough then for less than $10, and in some cases $5, you can get a portable FM radio that is smaller than your phone if you absolutely feel you need it.

tkoreaper said:
If loading your phone up with some MP3s somehow isn't good enough then for less than $10, and in some cases $5, you can get a portable FM radio that is smaller than your phone if you absolutely feel you need it.
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Then I can wear my fanny pack! Happy day. Will you bye me an mp3 for christmas? Pleeeeeease.

tkoreaper said:
If you are truly unhappy with T-Mobile then switch. No one is stopping you. The whole thing about updates being slow is taken out of context because, for one, you act as if everyone has Lollipop already which is untrue. And two, I can count many other times where T-Mobile was in fact first to the punch and some times where they actually skipped an update because a newer one quickly came out. Going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 and skipping 4.4.3 for example. Do not completely discredit the carrier because of one minor misstep or because some feature we really don't know why isn't on our phones. There's plenty of online radio apps out there and iheart radio has many local stations.
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It was okay at first, but the fact that you needed headphones plugged in (i guess to act as an antenna?) ruined it for me.
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I'm not about to give kudos to a carrier for updating a phone. Especially not a phone that hasn't even been out a year. Add to the fact that Samsung does all the heavy lifting as far as developing their updates. I will fault a carrier for disabling features built into my phone for the sole purpose of pushing some other agenda. Knowing the reason is moot if the reason has nothing to do with lowering the quality of the product.
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tkoreaper said:
If loading your phone up with some MP3s somehow isn't good enough then for less than $10, and in some cases $5, you can get a portable FM radio that is smaller than your phone if you absolutely feel you need it.
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I guess my question is why does someone need to justify to anyone why they would want this feature? Further more an MP3 isn't exactly a replacement for news and talk shows.
IF it's built into the phone its kind of shady to disable it.

Bubba Fett said:
Then I can wear my fanny pack! Happy day. Will you bye me an mp3 for christmas? Pleeeeeease.
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Who says you need a fanny pack? Less than $6 AND has a Micro SD slot... What more could you want?
http://www.amazon.com/Metal-Digital...d_sim_e_9?ie=UTF8&refRID=1MEER1TBDG8XEKMW1BJR
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pcriz said:
I guess my question is why does someone need to justify to anyone why they would want this feature? Further more an MP3 isn't exactly a replacement for news and talk shows.
IF it's built into the phone its kind of shady to disable it.
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Again, no one knows why exactly it is not on our phones and that Sprint is the only one. Furthermore it is NOT a feature that is on be default, it must be 'Activated'... Until recently no one even knew that the phone had it. Also, most news and talk shows are on AM radio.

Yay the "there is no view but mine" part of XDA has come out...*clap clap clap*
I don't care one way or the other about the FM radio, I just think you demanding people do things your way as it must be the "right" way is arrogant.
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nosympathy said:
Yay the "there is no view but mine" part of XDA has come out...*clap clap clap*
I don't care one way or the other about the FM radio, I just think you demanding people do things your way as it must be the "right" way is arrogant.
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I'm not demanding anything. I'm simply stating that there is an alternative... And the fact that this alternative is so cheap and simple begs the question why it's even an issue at all. If not activating an FM radio in your phone is enough to make you consider another carrier then why get that phone in the first place knowing that it wasn't there to begin with? You guys are basically complaining simply because you can and the fact that I can bother you so much by solving your issue with a simple answer proves how dumbfounded the issue really is.

My question still stands why should anyone have to justify their preference to want to use the FM feature on the phone if it has it? I see this right in line with disabling different NFC payment options, or how Apple wouldn't allow the Kindle app to purchase books just to make it more difficult and thus push users to their ecosystem.
I pay for my device. It will be paid in full in two months, its mine. Whether or not I will use a portion of it should be no concern of T-Mobile. I don't use the UV sensor, it's still there.

Saying T-Mobile is just as bad as Verizon with slow updates and locked down services is just crazy. When's the last time you bought a non Nexus device on Verizon that had an unlocked bootloader? Now when's the last time you bought a device on T-Mobile that had a locked bootloader? Don't think I really need to say much more.

This is the main reason why people buy the international version, these US carriers always disable stuff on their phones, Sprint AT&T Verizon all disable download Booster from their note 4 and s5 I didn't get an international version of this phone but I definitely see why somebody would

Fact: The Note 4 HAS an FM radio reciever. http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/shop/phone_details.jsp?ensembleId=SPHG900BKS&flow=AAL&isDeeplinked=true&INTNAV=GalaxyS5LP:ShopNow:041114
Fact: T-mobile has chosen not to activate the software to communicate with the FM chipset.
Fact: International Models do not have it activated either. Meaning Samsung does NOT, by default, use the software.
Hope: The Lollipop update that is finally now in T-Mobile's hands might have it.
Hope: If Not, maybe it will be possible in AOSP roms i.e. CyanogenMod.

Stagefright Vulnerabilities

Is someone more technical than me able to tell me if the stock 5.0.1 Tmobile has us on vulnerable to this?
http://blog.zimperium.com/experts-found-a-unicorn-in-the-heart-of-android/

Yes. Even the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 is still vulnerable. Google has already distributed a patch to all carriers, but as far as I know, none of the carriers have actually released it. The only patched rom so far is the most recent cyanogenmod 12.1 nightlies

acdcflame said:
Yes. Even the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 is still vulnerable. Google has already distributed a patch to all carriers, but as far as I know, none of the carriers have actually released it. The only patched rom so far is the most recent cyanogenmod 12.1 nightlies
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Switched to the CM nightly today. It's going to take for ever for Samsung to get this patch of there.
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Turn off auto retrieve in mms settings of you messaging app and only accept vids and pics from close friends! It's an annoyance but it'll keep you safe for now!

I have also heard you can just use hangouts as your default text app and avoid the issue all together.
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ShrekOpher said:
I have also heard you can just use hangouts as your default text app and avoid the issue all together.
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I'm not so sure seeing as it centers around that video being downloaded with the virus automatically before you even open it but if true that would be nice!

Dvanzutphenkann said:
I'm not so sure seeing as it centers around that video being downloaded with the virus automatically before you even open it but if true that would be nice!
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Hangouts uses a cloud based system to handle mms. Basically everything goes through Google Photos. The pictures and videos are the loaded to you phone once you click on them. As long as you dont click on a video or picture from someone you dont know, it would never reach your phone and thus not be an issue.
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ShrekOpher said:
Hangouts uses a cloud based system to handle mms. Basically everything goes through Google Photos. The pictures and videos are the loaded to you phone once you click on them. As long as you dont click on a video or picture from someone you dont know, it would never reach your phone and thus not be an issue.
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Do you have a link to a reference on that?
I ask this because the guys that originally found the exploit stated that depending on what SMS app you use, you may not even know you were infected, hangouts being one of those.
(Joshua) Drake found that when the exploit code was opened in Google Hangouts it would “trigger immediately before you even look at your phone… before you even get the notification”.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/07/27/android-text-attacks/

pcriz said:
Do you have a link to a reference on that?
I ask this because the guys that originally found the exploit stated that depending on what SMS app you use, you may not even know you were infected, hangouts being one of those.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/07/27/android-text-attacks/
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Drake found that when the exploit code was opened in*Google Hangouts it would “trigger immediately before you even look at your phone… before you even get the notification”
The above is true, but hangouts allows you to approve the messages which hold them in photos before they are delivered. You can also block all sms message that are not from contacts in hangouts.
See the screen shot below. The stock messaging app on many android phones does not have this option.
Also hangouts can be updated without a carrier approval so they will address it in the next update. The infamous hangouts 4.0.
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ShrekOpher said:
Drake found that when the exploit code was opened in*Google Hangouts it would “trigger immediately before you even look at your phone… before you even get the notification”
The above is true, but hangouts allows you to approve the messages which hold them in photos before they are delivered. You can also block all sms message that are not from contacts in hangouts.
See the screen shot below. The stock messaging app on many android phones does not have this option.
Also hangouts can be updated without a carrier approval so they will address it in the next update. The infamous hangouts 4.0.
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I suppose the clarification I wanted to get out there is that this isnt some inherently present functionality without some forethought to change those settings. So hangouts like any other text app needs to be made secure enough to prevent the exploit if you are not running a patched build. Just making sure the people reading don't get a false sense of security simply because they are using Hangouts.

pcriz said:
I suppose the clarification I wanted to get out there is that this isnt some inherently present functionality without some forethought to change those settings. So hangouts like any other text app needs to be made secure enough to prevent the exploit if you are not running a patched build. Just making sure the people reading don't get a false sense of security simply because they are using Hangouts.
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In all reality this is just a puff piece to try and make Apple who is losing market share look more secure and to get this Drake guys name in some press. The threat HAS NOT BEEN SEEN IN THE WILD, and its very likely Drake is the only one to ever produce it.
Its also very low class to unveil a zero day exploit that you know hasn't been patched and that no one else has found. Dude just wants the fame, in reality no one is at risk as long as it gets patched in the near future (months) . And if that douche would have kept his mouth shut and just let Google know and not the press none of us would have been at risk at all.
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ShrekOpher said:
In all reality this is just a puff piece to try and make Apple who is losing market share look more secure and to get this Drake guys name in some press. The threat HAS NOT BEEN SEEN IN THE WILD, and its very likely Drake is the only one to ever produce it.
Its also very low class to unveil a zero day exploit that you know hasn't been patched and that no one else has found. Dude just wants the fame, in reality no one is at risk as long as it gets patched in the near future (months) . And if that douche would have kept his mouth shut and just let Google know and not the press none of us would have been at risk at all.
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It's not even really about Google dropping the ball after the fact. Google has already released the patch, it just hasn't been implemented across the various OEMs. Just because it has yet to be exploited doesnt mean it shouldn't be brought to light. In fact the exploit was found in APRIL and the article I cited was posted June 27th. Also Google has its own team of software nerds that do this very thing. Find vulnerabilities in software and give the authors a window to respond before publishing it. Of course the last 0day exploited posted to google for windows 8.1 was published 90 days after its finding but the person who found it NEVER contacted Microsoft..
This is why I would be weary of trying to call this dude out as starved for attention when our beloved Google does the same thing his firm does.
I'm sorry but I am all for transparency when it comes to security issues no matter how big or small. Especially in this mobile world we live in.

And now more potential hackers have been made aware of this.

StageFright defense
ChompSMS has patched their sms app from running StageFright, fingers crossed, you will see the explanation when you search PS for it
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pcriz said:
It's not even really about Google dropping the ball after the fact. Google has already released the patch, it just hasn't been implemented across the various OEMs. Just because it has yet to be exploited doesnt mean it shouldn't be brought to light. In fact the exploit was found in APRIL and the article I cited was posted June 27th. Also Google has its own team of software nerds that do this very thing. Find vulnerabilities in software and give the authors a window to respond before publishing it. Of course the last 0day exploited posted to google for windows 8.1 was published 90 days after its finding but the person who found it NEVER contacted Microsoft..
This is why I would be weary of trying to call this dude out as starved for attention when our beloved Google does the same thing his firm does.
I'm sorry but I am all for transparency when it comes to security issues no matter how big or small. Especially in this mobile world we live in.
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I'm with you, what's really hilarious is that when I called the nation's largest carrier, and as usual I was transferred 3 times for a simple question, no one knew of the SF exploit, what does the word EMAIL or MEMO mean again Verizon??

Sprint released their patch specifically for stagefright...
The other major carriers will soon follow!
Do not download the Korean version released today 910t3...
You may be sorry!
But that's just my 2 cents...

acdcflame said:
Yes. Even the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 is still vulnerable. Google has already distributed a patch to all carriers, but as far as I know, none of the carriers have actually released it. The only patched rom so far is the most recent cyanogenmod 12.1 nightlies
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So would the latest cm nightly rom from here be good to go? http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-temaseks-unofficial-cm12-0-build-v9-t3066174

There is an app called stage fright detector in the playstore that can tell you if you are vulnerable.
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Sunshine Bootloader Unlock for SU4TL-49 is live!

https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs
I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone I told that there was no hope for unlocking SU4TL-49. The sun gods have heard your plea. I'll update my guide as soon as it goes live.
EDIT: It's live. You officially have no excuse to have a locked quark

TheSt33v said:
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs
I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone I told that there was no hope for unlocking SU4TL-49. The sun gods have heard your plea. I'll update my guide as soon as it goes live.
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I did the same. Sometimes it's good to be wrong .
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It took Sunshine team a FULL year to find the first Droid Turbo bootloader unlock exploit... and they were actively looking. After that (November 2015), they said they were no longer actively looking.
So, this is a surprise. 9-10 months to find the 2nd exploit.

That's some great news

Added great news:
Once Sunshine pushes this new update, Verizon will be motivated to push one more "security" update for the Droid Turbo. I mean, they can't be bothered to update to Marshmallow, but for this, you'll get a new update...

People will still procrastinate and complain it should be free.
And they'll rush to take the next Verizon OTA "security" update.

noway.
and here I was thinking my jesus free cracked screen replacement phone was going to remain pristine and sin free.
looking forward to blocking all ads and marshing all mallows -- or even chewing all nougats.

y8s said:
noway.
and here I was thinking my jesus free cracked screen replacement phone was going to remain pristine and sin free.
looking forward to blocking all ads and marshing all mallows -- or even chewing all nougats.
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I saw what you did there :3

y8s said:
looking forward to blocking all ads
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Can't you block ads without root?

zys52712 said:
Can't you block ads without root?
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No. You need something like Adaway, which Google banned from the Play store. You can still get it on XDA, however.
It uses a blacklist of host files at the system level, as well as enabling a fake web server on your phone to direct ad requests to a non-existent location. Apps see the ad requests being filled (but no ads appear) and still work.
EDIT: didn't know about this AdGuard below. It has a root and a non-root method.

ChazzMatt said:
No. You need something like Adaway, which Google banned from the Play store. You can still get it on XDA, however.
It uses a blacklist of host files at the system level, as well as enabling a fake web server on your phone to direct ad requests to a non-existent location. Apps see the ad requests being filled (but no ads appear) and still work.
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I use adguard on SU4TL-49, and it blocks just about every ad except the ads in the YouTube app.

zys52712 said:
I use adguard on SU4TL-49, and it blocks just about every ad except the ads in the YouTube app.
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Well, you still need root -- unless you plan to run through their VPN mode. I do commend them for offering a non-root method, if that's what people want. I had never heard of this app/service, whatever it is. But then I will never own a phone I can't root. Rooting is just becoming "administrator". It's MY phone.
— Adguard is able to block ALL kinds of ads, not only in browsers but also in games and apps!
How does Adguard protection work?
Adguard filters your browser’s traffic by blocking requests to phishing and malicious websites and removing intrusive browser advertising.
Adguard can use two modes of traffic filtering.
— Local VPN mode.
— Local HTTP proxy mode.
Local VPN mode
If you are using this mode, Adguard does not need ROOT privileges to carry out filtering. At the same time, a VPN-server is located on your device, so that there is no need to pass your traffic through a remote server in order to filter it.
Local HTTP proxy mode
In this mode Adguard launches a local HTTP proxy server on your device. This mode is recommended, if you use a rooted device.
Otherwise, manual adjustment of an HTTP proxy will be needed to use this mode, the filtering in mobile networks (Edge/3G/4G) will also be impossible.
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zys52712 said:
Can't you block ads without root?
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Well ... I guess I can. I'm trying it out. Still I do love the freedom to d**k around with my roms. Also when I got the new phone, it was a super pain in my butt to do a full restore of the backup I made on the rooted phone. So there's that.
Anyway, I'd probably still pay for BL unlock even with adguard working.
Also gotta remember to whitelist mms.vtext.com just like with the other blockers.

Holy crap this is some great news! I thought I was doomed to the pits of hell when I woke up one morning to see that my phone had been updated before I got a chance to unlock the bootloader.

TheSt33v said:
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs
I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone I told that there was no hope for unlocking SU4TL-49. The sun gods have heard your plea. I'll update my guide as soon as it goes live.
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Hey guys, new to the Turbo section as I've been rocking the Nexus 6 the past couple years.
I've wanted a Turbo since release, but the locked bootloader was a dealbreaker, and the unlockable xt1225 and/or xt1250 have been ridiculously overpriced (said the guy who paid almost $700 for Nexus 6 lol smh).
Thinking about picking up a Turbo now, and as it will most likely have SU4TL-49 preinstalled, I want to make absolutely sure I'll be able to unlock it.
Just wondering if anyone knows what the ETA is for the SU4TL-49 Sunshine update?

Q9Nap said:
Hey guys, new to the Turbo section as I've been rocking the Nexus 6 the past couple years.
I've wanted a Turbo since release, but the locked bootloader was a dealbreaker, and the unlockable xt1225 and/or xt1250 have been ridiculously overpriced (said the guy who paid almost $700 for Nexus 6 lol smh).
Thinking about picking up a Turbo now, and as it will most likely have SU4TL-49 preinstalled, I want to make absolutely sure I'll be able to unlock it.
Just wondering if anyone knows what the ETA is for the SU4TL-49 Sunshine update?
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If the firewater devs say it's happening, it's happening. That tweet is the only ETA we have.

I message the guys with sunshine and they said it would be a week or two due to one of there people fried there test droid turbo.

Nice! Now I'll be able to root my father's Turbo.

paulhauth25 said:
I message the guys with sunshine and they said it would be a week or two due to one of there people fried there test droid turbo.
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I bricked my only (beloved) turbo. Got another delivered today, just wrapping everything up. Shouldn't be too much longer.
--beaups

Great News! even i already unlock the bootloader, i really glad to hear that, Turbo & Sunshine still rocking!!

Latest sunshine is out. Go get it before Verizon sends out an "update".

Tips for enjoying NO ROOT on S7E - Please post!

So I'm new to the S7E. Only had it about a month. Luckily I didn't have to wait long for the official Android N 7.0 upgrade... Unfortunately there is no root available, which I'm not used to...all of my previous devices have always had full root with some pretty decent rom development. So a non-root device is new to me.
I'm guessing there may be others out there like myself who may have picked up a S7/S7E from people who were selling their older devices waiting for "the next big thing"... So like myself, those people are having to go thru this learning curve later in this devices life cycle. As an example, I didn't know the S7E & S7 (on tmobile g93#t) were not root able before buying this phone. And what root that was available for the MM, the guides were outdated and I never did it I decided to wait for nougat and see what happens. Anyway here we are!
I'd like to try and get some people to post some tips and suggestions for living and enjoying a no root phone especially when you're used to a rooted phone and all those goodies that come with customizing from root.
Samsung themes are ok, not amazing. Many are free and many are paid so you'll have to look around for one you like. The advantage to Samsung themes is it themes things like messages app (default), the notification pull down, the dialer, the lock screen clock. So it can give you a false sense of having a custom rom.
Surely there are more ways to customize these devices without root? Any suggestions?

I am rooted on my S7 edge. I am wishing I had Nougat but so far, am not willing to do without root.

patcal said:
I am rooted on my S7 edge. I am wishing I had Nougat but so far, am not willing to do without root.
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I tried to deal with the root even after the fixes n all that but the random lag was annoying

I'm OK w/o root by using Adhell for ad blocking and EZ Package Disabler to disable the small bits of Tmobile bloat.

I purchased Package Disabler Pro but beyond disabling the T-mobile obvious, what else should I disable?
Is there a list or script I could use? 7.0 Nougat T-mobile variant (no root obviously).

maximus96 said:
I'm OK w/o root by using Adhell for ad blocking and EZ Package Disabler to disable the small bits of Tmobile bloat.
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How did you get to activate EZ disabler pro. Mine is stuck at activation with a message. Is there a workaround?

MrEvilPanda said:
How did you get to activate EZ disabler pro. Mine is stuck at activation with a message. Is there a workaround?
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Mine too. I can't get it to activate license.

package disabler is a must! I really didn't like the root on the s7 edge, it was a lot of tweaking to get the lag to go away. The last rooted device I had was my note 7 which I miss still. IMO having a rooted snap dragon s7 edge isn't really all that great. Its just a poor experience and for me, the cons outweigh the pros. I'm pretty happy with nougat and package disabler tweaks. I do miss having root but in this case it blows as I previously stated.

HI To All
i Get
Eng_Root_G935_4_QA6_7.0.tar
Eng_Root_G930_4_QA6_7.0.tar
we need donation for share it with everyone
MOD EDIT: Negative. Requiring a donation in exchange for a file is against the XDA forum rules.
8. Donations.
As a user, you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work, however donations up front are not allowed. This forum is about sharing and not about getting paid to do something... that is what your job is for.
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princecomsy said:
HI To All
i Get
Eng_Root_G935_4_QA6_7.0.tar
Eng_Root_G930_4_QA6_7.0.tar
we need donation for share it with everyone
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Am I reading this correctly that you have the Nougat engineering kernel for both the S7 and the S7 Edge, and you're demanding money before you'll release it?

I cannot fully root my S7 due to security patch. I have SU app but it does not work. Can I just flash Nougat ROM using ODIN and remove security alert and custom notification on boot? Also, any idea when, if ever, ROOT will be available for PK1 or Nougat users? Thank you.

DOMF said:
Am I reading this correctly that you have the Nougat engineering kernel for both the S7 and the S7 Edge, and you're demanding money before you'll release it?
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That's how I read it. Seems he has been a member since 2012 but with not much participation. Not sure how much is trust it to be a working 7.0 kernel though.
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I jist found out about disconnect pro.. (just like adhell but better ) it blocks ads in browser like chrome and withing apps itself. This was the main reason why i would root (for adway) but this work perfect without having the annoying VPN key icon on top. With this and package pro i dont really need to root. Nougat is super smooth

I actually use both Disconnect and AdHell. I find that when I turn off AdHell while Disconnect is still active I see certain ad's here and there (maybe I'm crazy? I dunno). I don't see a way to update the blacklisted stuff in either app? I guess they do their thing in the background as far as updating goes? I dunno.
I tried AdClear but the battery hit was massive (about 30%) pretty high... The adclear guys claim they've improved it but since I found Disconnect and Adhell I'm good.
Nothing work's as good as AdAway did for me- but obviously no root so that's not going to work.
The last versions of package disabler pro do work on Nougat, I've disabled a bunch of stuff (like 90 items?) but then I notice the samsung cloud stuff doesn't sync so no samsung backups... I just left everything enabled, I don't see a noticeable performance difference, I do see a little more battery drain with everything enabled though... I never took the time to figure out which service I disabled that stopped the samsung cloud sync, so I figured just leave 'em all active.
As for the guy wanting donations for the ENG kernel for Nougat, I call 100% Bull Shirt! (anybody watch the good place? LOL)... That post is enough to get you BANNED imo. People here HELP each other, we don't charge for that help. ** IF the ENG kernel exists for 7.0, it'll surface WITHOUT your help. **

Araltd said:
I actually use both Disconnect and AdHell. I find that when I turn off AdHell while Disconnect is still active I see certain ad's here and there (maybe I'm crazy? I dunno). I don't see a way to update the blacklisted stuff in either app? I guess they do their thing in the background as far as updating goes? I dunno.
I tried AdClear but the battery hit was massive (about 30%) pretty high... The adclear guys claim they've improved it but since I found Disconnect and Adhell I'm good.
Nothing work's as good as AdAway did for me- but obviously no root so that's not going to work.
The last versions of package disabler pro do work on Nougat, I've disabled a bunch of stuff (like 90 items?) but then I notice the samsung cloud stuff doesn't sync so no samsung backups... I just left everything enabled, I don't see a noticeable performance difference, I do see a little more battery drain with everything enabled though... I never took the time to figure out which service I disabled that stopped the samsung cloud sync, so I figured just leave 'em all active.
As for the guy wanting donations for the ENG kernel for Nougat, I call 100% Bull Shirt! (anybody watch the good place? LOL)... That post is enough to get you BANNED imo. People here HELP each other, we don't charge for that help. ** IF the ENG kernel exists for 7.0, it'll surface WITHOUT your help. **
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He does have the Odin for the MM eng kernel
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princecomsy said:
HI To All
i Get
Eng_Root_G935_4_QA6_7.0.tar
Eng_Root_G930_4_QA6_7.0.tar
we need donation for share it with everyone
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How much do you need

Lmax579 said:
He does have the Odin for the MM eng kernel
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How much do you need
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It's all a joke. JusMEJOSE claimed the same thing on the Note 7 forums when the Note 7 came out. Everyone was excited to think it would have root right away and when everyone asked him to release it, he disappeared. People tried to contact him for weeks and he acted like a prick and would not even answer their messages. With that kind of record, Good luck. Only a demented person would believe that if he had it, he would release it. He lies and expects people to not remember? I think he does it for the attention. My memory is pretty good and I remember deceiving people very well. How about releasing it and then asking those who benefited to donate instead? That's what a decent person would do.

Eudeferrer said:
It's all a joke. JusMEJOSE claimed the same thing on the Note 7 forums when the Note 7 came out. Everyone was excited to think it would have root right away and when everyone asked him to release it, he disappeared. People tried to contact him for weeks and he acted like a prick and would not even answer their messages. With that kind of record, Good luck. Only a demented person would believe that if he had it, he would release it. He lies and expects people to not remember? I think he does it for the attention. My memory is pretty good and I remember deceiving people very well. How about releasing it and then asking those who benefited to donate instead? That's what a decent person would do.
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Idk about jusmejose but I know princecomsy have an engineer kernel and the odin to flash that end kernel for MM

He just posted it... .
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Yeah, I figured you really had it, since you were the one that released the engboot for MM + the modified Odin to flash it. I'm just questioning why you claim to need money to release it in a community-supported forum.
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Yeah, I figured you really had it, since you were the one that released the engboot for MM + the modified Odin to flash it. I'm just questioning why you claim to need money to release it in a community-supported forum.
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Oh man, especially because someone else in the GND forum already posted a link to it
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767141717