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Spen not so unique after all

Hello so today i realized that a digitizer pen from a lenovo thinkpad yoga 12 actually works exactly as an spen on our note device.
You may wonder why is this important well the lenovo thinkpad pen is just a regular digitizer pen. So im guessing that ANY digitizer pen will work with our device. In case anyone is looking for a bigger or heavier pen. Try searching digitizer pen...
Here is a video. Sorry for the quality i filmed it on the thinkpad and i accidentally covered the mic but it just shows that it has the same functions as samsung spen
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f6alxjb1571ja5m/WIN_20150919_231518.MP4?dl=0
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i've tried my N3 S-Pen when I first got my N5. it doesn't work as well. it seems more sensitive to the N5 S-Pen and is more precise - I can draw more finer lines.
how's your thinkpad pen with it?
(Sent from another Galaxy)

egren58 said:
So im guessing that ANY digitizer pen will work with our device. In case anyone is looking for a bigger or heavier pen. Try searching digitizer pen...
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It's not a guess, it's true. Samsung licenses Wacom technology for the Note-series. But there's a big but. People who've used Wacom branded stylus' with the Note have had offset issues. Something's different with the Note 5's digitizer and/or stylus too. The two full-size Samsung S Pens I have aren't nearly as sensitive on the Note 5 as they are on my Note 12 and were on my Note 4. They're no where near as sensitive as the included stylus either. In theory any active stylus should work on the Note(s) but in practice that's not the case. So if you're experimenting buy from some place with a liberal return policy.

Wacom stylus & digitizers over LCD screens are a lot older than the Galaxy Note series.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacom_(company)

My note 3 s pen seemed identical in using to draw on the note 5 screen...

Used my Surface Pro 3 Pen on the N5 as well as the other way around with the same experience on both devices.

I do agree that is not as sensitive. I had to put a slight force in order to work sometimes.
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This isn't a new discovery, expecially if you have been with the note line since the OG Note.
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BarryH_GEG said:
It's not a guess, it's true. Samsung licenses Wacom technology for the Note-series. But there's a big but. People who've used Wacom branded stylus' with the Note have had offset issues. Something's different with the Note 5's digitizer and/or stylus too. The two full-size Samsung S Pens I have aren't nearly as sensitive on the Note 5 as they are on my Note 12 and were on my Note 4. They're no where near as sensitive as the included stylus either. In theory any active stylus should work on the Note(s) but in practice that's not the case. So if you're experimenting buy from some place with a liberal return policy.
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Samsung owns Wacom.

No, Samsung has some 20% share in wacom
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Alternative stylus

Hi,
from images and videos about this device on web I have noticed that included stylus does not have any buttons, which is a bit disappointing for me as I am used to use stylus with as least 1 button (preferably 2 thou). Since the Yoga Book has wacom digitizer, could I use a stylus from my Intuos tablet? Or some other stylus with buttons?
Thanks

I was able to use the stylus of my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the button worked as well

danjac said:
I was able to use the stylus of my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the button worked as well
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Thanks for the info.
Not the thing I was hoping. I have Galaxy Note as well and those small styluses are just not for me.

Search for Bamboo Wacom stylus. I've got one that works with both my Galaxy Note 8 and the Yoga Book. I believe any Wacom stylus should work with the Yoga Book.

yes i think so, the technic is from wacom
i test one from my old windows convertible on the lenovo also the eraser works and the button

Hello,
i have test the stylus from my Windows "Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 260", it didn´t work

Hey,
thanks all for the comments. The stylus from Samsung Note series indeed works (Galaxy Note 10 2014 in my case) and quite well actually. Just for funsies I have ordered few cheap "replacement" styluses from china, will let you guys know how it turns out.
I have also tried stylus from my Intuos tablet which unfortunately did not worked at all - the bamboo stylus seams to be the way for Wacom styluses.

Talsi said:
Hi,
from images and videos about this device on web I have noticed that included stylus does not have any buttons, which is a bit disappointing for me as I am used to use stylus with as least 1 button (preferably 2 thou). Since the Yoga Book has wacom digitizer, could I use a stylus from my Intuos tablet? Or some other stylus with buttons?
Thanks
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Hi
I have had the Yoga Book for 3 days and loving it. I have found that the pen from the Thinkpad Tablet 10 works fine, its much smaller and has a button. The button didn't appear to do much in my first quick test. However, if that pen works maybe the Samsung pens do too.

How about the galaxy note pen version which has also a headset function (S pen). Will it work?

Has anyone tried the Surface Stylus with one key and an eraser on top? I think that would be great if it's working with our yoga book!

I received this S Pen clone yesterday: http://www.ebay.de/itm/131721242167
It works, but triggers to early, so I have many ghost lines on my notes. It's not very usable. Maybe an original product will work better - but I'm not sure.

i tried cube i7 stylus(skylake)'s pen today. it works without pressure sensor so... meaningless. however backside button works as eraser. side button doesn't works. i owned android yogabook.

Talsi said:
Hey, Just for funsies I have ordered few cheap "replacement" styluses from china, will let you guys know how it turns out.
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Hey,
me again. So the styluses from china just arrived - it took way longed than usually does thou . So I bought these two: http://www.dx.com/p/capacitive-scre...samsung-note-3-black-2pcs-412089#.WHOxTy_Qckk
To my surprise they work quite well including the button! Only on pad thou, you can not use them with screen (same as original note stylus). Also, the tip has a bit more resistance than original note stylus when pressed, which I like very much. There are like only 2 levels of pressure sensitivity so it is not for artists but for notes it just fine.

I picked up a Wacom Bamboo Smart Stylus and it works. But... there are some weird distorted spots where the point doesn't quite track right. There are about 5 scattered about the screen some of them are about 2 inches in from the edge of the screen. While it works, the distortions were enough to bring me back to the buttonless (ugh!) OEM stylus.

The original Surface Pro (gen 1) stylus works perfectly with the Android version of the Yoga Book.
You can get one here:
OEM Microsoft Surface Pro / Surface Pro 2 Bluetooth Wireless Stylus Pen
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Microso...tooth-Wireless-Stylus-Pen-Black-/142288561742

Where's the benefit of using a different Stylus?

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Where's the benefit of using a different Stylus?
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My main reason is to have a backup. I've read that the tip of the Yoga Book stylus insert is prone to breaking off when switching to an ink tip.

I would love to get a alternative Stylus with Gel or a little bit something softer. But thats not so important.
I'm a little bit worried, that there are no Stylus Tips (plastic) for the Real Pen are available. You get normally one with Pens from Microsoft
or Samsung. So I have to buy then a new Stylus?
Which Stylus is definitly and without any restrictions working?

Worst case, use a drained ball point tip. Should work fine. How fast do these Wacom tips tend to wear down?

danjac said:
I was able to use the stylus of my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the button worked as well
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Hi, interested in what the s-pen button does functionally bring, both under windows and under android.
Thanks

bluetooth pen for galaxy tab a 10'' 2016

guy is there any bluetooth pen for this tablet, or in general for andorid device, which support a pal rejection mode or something like this? Like an apple pen or huawei m pen

The s-pen on the SM-P580 does everything those other styli do, and does it well. In general, Samsung s-pen has been, for a long time, the best stylus for many people, including me.
And it isn't a bluetooth device, but uses a special detection layer on the screen (not the capacitive layer).

klaberte said:
The s-pen on the SM-P580 does everything those other styli do, and does it well. In general, Samsung s-pen has been, for a long time, the best stylus for many people, including me.
And it isn't a bluetooth device, but uses a special detection layer on the screen (not the capacitive layer).
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I've read online and many people say that the s pen works only with the galaxy tab a 2016 model with s pen include (or galaxy note), in the one without the s pen included will not work.
I can't buy the galaxy tab a 2016 with s pen because I'm from italy and here it is not sold, so I've bought the model T580N WI-FI 16GB without the s pen.
Do you have the s pen and you confirm for me that the pen will work on this model?

james202 said:
I've read online and many people say that the s pen works only with the galaxy tab a 2016 model with s pen include (or galaxy note), in the one without the s pen included will not work.
I can't buy the galaxy tab a 2016 with s pen because I'm from italy and here it is not sold, so I've bought the model T580N WI-FI 16GB without the s pen.
Do you have the s pen and you confirm for me that the pen will work on this model?
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I do have the s pen (SM-P580), but the T580 you have does not have the required s-pen detection layer on the screen. Sorry, I don't think it will work for you.

To be clear, the S Pen will not work on SM-Txxx models.
Having owned a Note 8 (GT-N5100) followed by a Tab A (SM-P355) I'm quite fond of the S Pen, and will buy the Tab S3 if rumours about it's stylus capability are true. Perhaps the S3 be available in Italy?

afblangley said:
To be clear, the S Pen will not work on SM-Txxx models.
Having owned a Note 8 (GT-N5100) followed by a Tab A (SM-P355) I'm quite fond of the S Pen, and will buy the Tab S3 if rumours about it's stylus capability are true. Perhaps the S3 be available in Italy?
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Well I don't know... fro example if I buy this pen http://www.adonit.net/snap/ which has bluetooth function and use INKredible app on my device which has a palm rejection mode, will work?

I'm not familiar with BT stylus. They don't seem as capable or convenient as the S Pen, but I guess they're better than capacitive stylus.
Good luck!

Will a T580 with bluetooth powered stylus work?

So I understand at this point that the P580 has not just a pen included but also has a layer under the screen to make it work with the S-pen. I'm wondering if I could buy a bluetooth pen and if it would work with the tablet, and how different the performance would be.

Juan Potato said:
So I understand at this point that the P580 has not just a pen included but also has a layer under the screen to make it work with the S-pen. I'm wondering if I could buy a bluetooth pen and if it would work with the tablet, and how different the performance would be.
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Need the make and model of what you are calling a "bluetooth pen" before that question can be answered. If you are asking if there are Pens, other than the ones from Samsung, that will work with the P580, then the answer is yes. If you are asking if there are Pens that will will work with a T580 with the fine lines of an S-Pen, then I've never heard of one other than experimental attempts.

4929york said:
Need the make and model of what you are calling a "bluetooth pen" before that question can be answered. If you are asking if there are Pens, other than the ones from Samsung, that will work with the P580, then the answer is yes. If you are asking if there are Pens that will will work with a T580 with the fine lines of an S-Pen, then I've never heard of one other than experimental attempts.
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I've just been looking around for a decent tablet and stylus combination that I could use to take notes, all the good ones I've seen are really expensive unless I just want to go the non pressure sensitive route and use a capacitive stylus with any tablet. I haven't bought anything so I don't have an exact pen I'm asking about. Are S-Pens really that good? I've never really used one let allowed compared it to a regular capacitive stylus.

Juan Potato said:
I've just been looking around for a decent tablet and stylus combination that I could use to take notes, all the good ones I've seen are really expensive unless I just want to go the non pressure sensitive route and use a capacitive stylus with any tablet. I haven't bought anything so I don't have an exact pen I'm asking about. Are S-Pens really that good? I've never really used one let allowed compared it to a regular capacitive stylus.
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Any new tablet with a Smart Pen, one that write with a line like a ballpoint pen, is going to be several hundred dollars. But you can get a used P580 on eBay for about $200. Or you can get a Galaxy Note 2014 10.1", which was originally about a $600 tablet, for under a $150. Any model Galaxy Note, is going to have an S-Pen.

can i use newer s pen with this tablet

hi i wanted to know if i can use like note 8's s pen with my tablet, i don't like the 10.1's spen because of the tip is moving note 8's spen's tip seems like fixed in place(im not sure about it it look like that in videos) so do you guys know anything about this?

Seemingly all digitizers or touchscreens containing a digitizer are from Wacom.
For the pen, there are pens with and without a battery, the Note's pen being without one. And for such ones you should go then. Still not guaranteed that it'll work...
(I think the active pens induce charge into the digitizer while the passive ones deduct it using the human body as ground plane.)

All Samsung devices with pens use the same WACOM Feel tech, so all their pens are interchangeable. You can use them on one another, but whether pressure sensitivity also changes (so latest Note 10 phone pen will give more sensitivity on older Note 10 tablet) is something that I can't confirm. I don't think it gives perceivable changes in daily use though.
Also, all WACOM Feel pens are useable with one another, so a Thinkpad X230T, Surface Pro 1 and 2 (NOT Surface Pro 3 and later) or Toshiba Z20t pens can be used on Note devices, though their calibrations might be off so the cursor won't perfectly line up with the tip, but this means there is a lot of potential pen choices.