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Samsung S4 I9505 no Whatsapp backup possible

Hi,
I can't perform a Whatsapp backup since January this year, regardless if Google Drive Backup is checked, if the Whatsapp app is stored in the local or on sd card memory, automatic backups are being cancelled, too.
After I hit "Backup", the Dialogue "Messages are being backed up" shows up, which closes after 10 sec without any error message.
I tried to contact the WA Support, but they insist that my S4 is rooted (which it isn't, maybe because of the custom ROM I use).
I have flashed my Samsung I9505 in January this year from CM 12.1 to CM 13. At the beginning, the phone ran smoothless except BT. After a while, WiFi stopped working as well. I tried to flash the CM 12.1 backup and radios without any success, just a new mainboard helped. I installed my CM 12.1 backup from January via TWRP from my old mainboard, which ran without any errors on it (after a fullwipe on the new one).
The phone works great, except the WA backup.
WA gets always updated to the current version, I have ~1,2 GB free internal memory, I tried to update to the latest CM 12.1 5.1.1 version from 12/26/2015, perform a backup via 4G, 3G, Wifi, with an without Google Backup checked, cleared the cache and wiped Dalvic Cache, there is no app deactivated.
I use Baseband I9505XXUHOD7 and Kernel: 3.4.107-cyanogenmod-gab9afd6clyde.

Running a custom ROM means you are rooted.
Now, I don't know why whatsapp wouldn't work on a rooted ROM, but if you want to backup you can use titanium backup.

GDReaper said:
Running a custom ROM means you are rooted.
Now, I don't know why whatsapp wouldn't work on a rooted ROM, but if you want to backup you can use titanium backup.
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There is no root, please check the screenshot below.
Since there is no root, I can't use Titanium Backup, however, it wouldn't be the most practicable way to backup your Whatsapp history every time with Titanium Backup.
Besides that, I don't think this would work if I would like to transfer my history to a new phone on which WA Backup should work as intended as I won't flash the ROM/install root and void the warranty.
WA backup worked perfect with the old logicboard before flashing CM 13.

m_pa said:
There is no root, please check the screenshot below.
Since there is no root, I can't use Titanium Backup, however, it wouldn't be the most practicable way to backup your Whatsapp history every time with Titanium Backup.
Besides that, I don't think this would work if I would like to transfer my history to a new phone on which WA Backup should work as intended as I won't flash the ROM/install root and void the warranty.
WA backup worked perfect with the old logicboard before flashing CM 13.
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Root has to be activated from developer options.
That is definitely a whatsapp problem if it worked before.

GDReaper said:
Root has to be activated from developer options.
That is definitely a whatsapp problem if it worked before.
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Well, I haven't even unlocked the developer options until now..
Any idea how to convince WA doing it's job? Anybody with this problem before?

if you really want a backup it makes more sense that you either activate root or flash superSU yourself rather than wait on whatsapp to change their code just for you. they've already told you effectively that they aren't going to do anything for you and don't have to.
backing up the app and data with TiBu and copying the whatsapp folder achieves everything you want and has worked flawlessly for me many many times.

Well guys, got a new phone but the problem persists when trying to restore my history on the new phone and really need your help.
Got root on the old phone and saved the com.whatsapp folder of it with the key file and databases. How can I encrypt the msgstore.db to msgstore.db.crypt8?
I have tried the app Whatcrypt, which creates a msgstore.db.crypt file, as large as msgstore.db, but Whatsapp on the new phone does not recognize it as a backup file.
When using whatcrypt.com and uploading the key and msgstore.db, it tells me "Encryption failed / Incorrect account?"
Also tried Omni-Crypt app. It creates msgstore.crypt, which Whatsapp ignores as well ("searching for Backups" with waiting triangle for hours)
I don't know any other way and I'm literally stuck now

when i mentioned copying the apps folder i was thinking of the one on the root of your internal storage, not the one in Android/data/...
you can paste that onto a new phone and restore the app and data with titanium.

3mel said:
when i mentioned copying the apps folder i was thinking of the one on the root of your internal storage, not the one in Android/data/...
you can paste that onto a new phone and restore the app and data with titanium.
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Of course I can copy the Whatsapp folder on the root of the storage but this folder only contains the wa media files of my old phone since there are no msgstore.db.cryptX files created by Whatsapp.
For TiBa I would need to root the new phone which is a S7 Edge and I would like to avoid this until the warranty has expired. It is not as easy to do repairs by yourself as the S4..

fair enough, have you tried copying both folders over and installing from playstore ? or rather, install the app but don't open it, copy over both folders and then try and see what happens...

Flashing new builds without erasing apps?

Sorry for the noob question, but is there a way to flash new rom builds without erasing all apps? Do i have to repeat the process of installing all the apps every time?

When you stay on the same rom (update the rom) only wipe cache and dalvik then you go on where you leave before the update with all your apps en settings.
If you change roms then you must wipe systeem, and in most cases (19 out of 20) also the data partition. (there is where you apps/data is storaged)
You can use app like Titanium Backup. I use the buildin Google backup that installs my apps and some preferences/settings when I change roms. And the backup from Nova Launcher for the homescreen items/widgets/etc. In 15 minutes I'm good to go after installing a rom.

Gero71 said:
When you stay on the same rom (update the rom) only wipe cache and dalvik then you go on where you leave before the update with all your apps en settings.
If you change roms then you must wipe systeem, and in most cases (19 out of 20) also the data partition. (there is where you apps/data is storaged)
You can use app like Titanium Backup. I use the buildin Google backup that installs my apps and some preferences/settings when I change roms. And the backup from Nova Launcher for the homescreen items/widgets/etc. In 15 minutes I'm good to go after installing a rom.
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Nine times out of ten using the built in Google restore will not work if you are coming from a Marshmallow to a Nougat based ROM. However, Titanium BU works well. Just make certain you have your backup saved to an external storage location. :good:

[2017.08.19] Titanium Backup Keeps stopping

I'm looking to go install a new custom ROM on my Oneplus 2 stock lineage just lacks consistency at times.
I've restored my device to my last nandroid backup and that made titanium backup work, but once I uninstalled it and tried reinstalling from the play store the app won't open.
These are my specs:
Android version: 7.1.2
Kernel architecture: armv8l
Kernel version: 3.10.105-perf+
Build: Oneplus2-userdebug 7.1.2 NJH47F dd5fc74c17
I've already tried disabling google play protect and verify apps over USB to no avail, any and all help would be much appreciated :fingers-crossed:

Yeah get that sometimes myself. It's usually the same apps for me (Google music, and YouTube mainly) so I don't select them.
A good few more would freeze if moving from a N rom to a MM.

It's not working anymore though, any idea what it could be or should I just restore from the backup I made again and just use that?
I'll have to individually restore apps from titanium backup apk after reflashing the ROM I want right?
Is there any way to create my own update.zip that the paid version of titanium backup creates?

Try the zipme app

Thanks I tried it and it worked great ?

[Workaround] [Oreo] [Titanium Backup] Can't restore apps

For those who can't restore apps from TB on the latest Oreo ROMs, please see my discovered workaround below.
TB > Menu > Preferences > App processing mode > Interactive
You should now be able to restore app and data, however, it will require your interaction for every app.
Remaining problem: can't freeze apps.

I decided to go back to Android 7.0
Oreo no root

This method worked for me, but it is very tedious as I have restored more than 125 apps.

ZainBilq said:
This method worked for me, but it is very tedious as I have restored more than 125 apps.
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After first restored app, Titanium shows up on a "install unknown apps" list And no further process

I started having this problem restoring from Titanium. I'm using a Hauwei Mediapad M3 tablet on Android 7. I tried all of the fixes I've been able to find:
1. Turn off verify apps
2. Turn off verify apps over USB
3. Turn off wifi and data
4. Change Titanium preferences to Processing>Interactive
None of these approaches have worked for me. Does anybody have any other ideas to fix this?

xgneilx said:
For those who can't restore apps from TB on the latest Oreo ROMs, please see my discovered workaround below.
TB > Menu > Preferences > App processing mode > Interactive
You should now be able to restore app and data, however, it will require your interaction for every app.
Remaining problem: can't freeze apps.
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Worked like a charm, thanks!
was getting furious over restoring my apps on Oreo!!!
:good:

xgneilx said:
For those who can't restore apps from TB on the latest Oreo ROMs, please see my discovered workaround below.
TB > Menu > Preferences > App processing mode > Interactive
You should now be able to restore app and data, however, it will require your interaction for every app.
Remaining problem: can't freeze apps.
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Is this method for ppl want to restore their apps backup on say nougat or earlier version to oreo? Wud there be any issues if restoring apps from nougat or earlier to oreo?

mkruo said:
Is this method for ppl want to restore their apps backup on say nougat or earlier version to oreo? Wud there be any issues if restoring apps from nougat or earlier to oreo?
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I did restore my apps from Nougat to Oreo, and haven't encountered any problem with the restored apps.

Great it worked on Samsung

Hello,
i have used titanium backup many times to restore my whatsapp backup from One phone to Another and it used to work without me having to get verification code from whatsapp.
But since i have installed Lineage OS 15.1 (Oreo), i am not able to restore the backup. Even after successful restoration of backup when i open Whatsapp it take me to Number Verification.
Does anyone here have any work around for it? i am looking to restore my Whatsapp and Other Apps along with DATA from my OLD Phone to my New Phone
Old Phone is : Google Nexus 6 (Running Lineage OS 15.1 Oreo) - Lineage OS Inbuilt Root Access
New Phone is: Nokia 7 Plus (Running Oreo OS 8.1.0) - Magisk Root Access
Please help if anyone has a work around for it..
Note: I cant get verification of whatsapp as my sim is lost and cannot get new one.

Will I be able to use Titanium Backup to restore apps in Oreo that were backed up in lollipop?
I want to upgrade the OS but keep some apps and their data, some transport apps and whatsapp in particular.

Titanium Backup Restore ist not working from Nougat to Oreo Rom

Hi
i´m facing a problem whith Titanium Backup.
I backuped my apps under Nougat LOS14.1 , which i wanted to take with to any Oreo Rom.
after flashing of several Oreo Roms , i didn´t get any App to restore under Oreo.
Titanium Restore still stand 0% and did not anything.
Is this a known Problem, that Apps from Nougat can not restored under Oreo?

Not a known problem that I know of. Well, used to be. When going from Marshmallow to Nougat.
I use TiBu on all Oreo ROMs. Originally anything restored was from Nougat backups.
I take it you're only trying to restore some user apps. No system apps which is a bad idea. Also, not sure if Oreo's change in the naming of items in /data/app/ have any bearing. Maybe not. TiBu would just dump the restored apks there instead of in subdirectories.
If possible, I would suggest installing the apps normally (Play Store, apk, etc.) then restore the data with TiBu. Some apps can be easily reconfigured so it's best to be selective.
Another issue you might come across is device ID. Has Titanium Backup shown a dialog about the backups being from a different device ID? If so, normally you can choose the previous and be good, otherwise data might not restore.
Oreo has changed how it deals with Device ID. TiBu can't make the change. Existing device ID changing tools don't work either.
This one does, on a per app basis...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/app-device-id-changer-oreo-13-aprv0-9-2-t3777299
If you get everything squared away and data restored onto Oreo, create a different Oreo-only backup destination.
Moto G5S Plus XT1806, AOSiP 8.1 ROM, microG (NoGapps), MultiROM, Tapatalk 4.9.5

no dialog about different Device ID
i tried only User Apps to restore, no System Apps
the way with only App Data is a good advice , i will give it a try

Hille2001 said:
no dialog about different Device ID
i tried only User Apps to restore, no System Apps
the way with only App Data is a good advice , i will give it a try
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The auto install mode on titanium. Backup doesn't work on Oreo, U need to change that to Interactive ( Preferences> App processing mode) change from auto to Interactive, But this will ask install permission per app which can be a lengthy process especially if u have large no. Apps to restore but something is better than nothing

I've had no trouble whatsoever restoring apps and their data with TiBu. But I only restored user apps. Could have something to do with your root solution, probably Magisk. Or SELinux interfering. I use SuperSU on Oreo and all root apps work as expected.

I have TB example in latest AEX. Installed new version of google play services, and it was FCing. I tried to restore previous version from TB, and it did it, at least I thought so. TB didn't give any error message. When I looked in settings>apps and the version of GPServices was not the one from TB, but the one that was giving me problems. Eventually I manually installed the proper version of GPServices. I suspect it could be Magisk 16.0, which is what I am using for root. Non system apps get restored correctly.