What will happen when pixel 2 comes out? - Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion

With the nexus devices Google always seemed to firesale leftover stock from the previous model. Does anyone think that trend will continue with the original pixel once the pixel 2 is released?

nascar48 said:
With the nexus devices Google always seemed to firesale leftover stock from the previous model. Does anyone think that trend will continue with the original pixel once the pixel 2 is released?
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It already started. Over the last 2-3 weeks I've been seeing them sell for around $350-$450 which is a rather hefty discount for the pixel devices....Now if you're talking about that kind of discount from the Play Store itself...I'm sure it'll happen around the end of this month IF the Pixel 2 event actually takes place Oct 4th as expected.

uodii said:
It already started. Over the last 2-3 weeks I've been seeing them sell for around $350-$450 which is a rather hefty discount for the pixel devices....Now if you're talking about that kind of discount from the Play Store itself...I'm sure it'll happen around the end of this month IF the Pixel 2 event actually takes place Oct 4th as expected.
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I'm more so thinking of the nexus 6 firesale after the 5x and 6p where amazon had them on black Friday for 200 dollars, and that was also a phone that had retailed at 650.

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Availability at Launch? Predictions?

As many of you probably remember from the Nexus 6, and I think even the Nexus 5, Google seems to stock 100 units per day.
I want to pick up the 6P, but almost certain I won't be able to for at least a month after launch because I never can catch a break with getting online while units are available.
Just replied to u on other thread "You will need to be concerned, since they were sold out in about 10 minutes the last 3 launches! My finger was in pain from hitting the PC F5 refresh key...."
for those who can manage to hold off for a month i think will benefit most, as any concerning defects or software problems will be beyond the paranoia stage into being facts. And its battery life will be confirmed for real world usage also, rather than people posting SOT snap shots.
hard to resist though, i know.
Sacricide said:
for those who can manage to hold off for a month i think will benefit most, as any concerning defects or software problems will be beyond the paranoia stage into being facts. And its battery life will be confirmed for real world usage also, rather than people posting SOT snap shots.
hard to resist though, i know.
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Why not buy it now, and return it within 14 days if you don't like it??? Buy buy buy.
Sure hope it doesn't follow the Nexus 4 launch ? It was also only sold through the Play Store at first, and that thing sold out in seconds, was nowhere to be found anywhere until like February the next year.
It sold out the first day right away, and then two weeks later went back in stock on the Play Store, and 30 seconds later sold out again for 2 weeks. Rinse and repeat for three months. That Nexus was near impossible to get, it didn't have a steady supply in stock for at least 3 to 4 months after launch.
I don't expect the 5X and 6P to be that bad, but I will not be surprised if it's close to that poor supply. I bet these new Nexus phones will be super hard to get over the next month.
Basically you will need to order one the split second they release it, not wait 10 minutes, let alone later in the day. These will sell out super fast, and the 5X ? LOL that will be gone in 1/10th of a second.
I've never had a problem ordering a nexus product on launch (since nexus one), until last year with the n6. Even though that process was stupidly handled.. I think it had to do more with Motorola and their promising carriers certain amounts. I don't think we'll have that problem this year. at least I'm crossing my fingers on that one lol
It will be interesting to see, how many google can actually deliver, because if they are really like the leaks say, they will go away like an iPhone.
After the Nexus 6 many waited for a smaller one (5X) and many want one with a better cam (6P). Also after Stagefright and the general dislike of samsung like roms and the update problematic, most a bit better informed ppl, want to get a nexus device next. If the phones are as promising as they look .... it will be hard to get one.
I'd say units won't ship until at least mid October. I'm gonna wait until November to get one. Hopefully T-Mobile carries it so I can use my upgrade.
stevew84 said:
As many of you probably remember from the Nexus 6, and I think even the Nexus 5, Google seems to stock 100 units per day.
I want to pick up the 6P, but almost certain I won't be able to for at least a month after launch because I never can catch a break with getting online while units are available.
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My prediction, we are all screwed. Google will troll us and put it up for a second then claim to be sold out for a week or two
Check out firefox extension "Check4Change"
It'll auto refresh the page every 5 seconds and notify you when something changes. IE the button changes from "Coming Soon" to "Order Now"
Maybe sharing this will hinder my ability to buy one.
Pilz said:
My prediction, we are all screwed. Google will troll us and put it up for a second then claim to be sold out for a week or two
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I love how one of the biggest technology companies in the world can't figure out how to do preorders. They shouldn't "sell out" until, you know, the device is released. Just keep pushing the estimated delivery date back as orders come in.
But I guess that would be asking too much of Google.
For some reason I think the 6P won't sell out right away, especially due to the fact the 5X is being released at the same time, and the fact the N6 is still a strong, bigger device.
Does anyone remember the price of the N6 when it first came out? Wasn't it $599?
stevew84 said:
For some reason I think the 6P won't sell out right away, especially due to the fact the 5X is being released at the same time, and the fact the N6 is still a strong, bigger device.
Does anyone remember the price of the N6 when it first came out? Wasn't it $599?
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Correct, the original price of the 2014 Nexus 6 was $599, unfortunatley... :crying:
SuperTongue said:
Correct, the original price of the 2014 Nexus 6 was $599, unfortunatley... :crying:
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I got my N6 back in April, been a solid device but I think I've done all I could with it.
Then again, when the Marshmallow ROM's start coming out probably this weekend, I might not even want to get the 6P. There are a few things I need to see on the 6P before I just up and buy it...probably a hands on review of it first.
I'm not familiar with the manufacturer what so ever, which is another concern.
stevew84 said:
For some reason I think the 6P won't sell out right away, especially due to the fact the 5X is being released at the same time, and the fact the N6 is still a strong, bigger device.
Does anyone remember the price of the N6 when it first came out? Wasn't it $599?
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Probably not, but last year the nexus 6 had about a 10 second window to pre order it on launch day. They offered some more pre orders the couple weeks after, though.
If it's available on US carriers it'll probably push more people to wait.
bbedward said:
Probably not, but last year the nexus 6 had about a 10 second window to pre order it on launch day. They offered some more pre orders the couple weeks after, though.
If it's available on US carriers it'll probably push more people to wait.
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True, but I mean that was going from a 5" decent Nexus device all the way to a new manufactured 6" with front facing speakers and AMOLED screen.
I doubt the "demand" is going to be there for the 6P later today.
stevew84 said:
True, but I mean that was going from a 5" decent Nexus device all the way to a new manufactured 6" with front facing speakers and AMOLED screen.
I doubt the "demand" is going to be there for the 6P later today.
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Well I can tell you you should have 0 faith in google
Every year people hope it's better, but it's always a bad experience ordering one.
bbedward said:
Well I can tell you you should have 0 faith in google
Every year people hope it's better, but it's always a bad experience ordering one.
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This happened to me during the Nexus 4 and 6 launch. I think I got the 5 after the fact, can't remember.
bbedward said:
Check out firefox extension "Check4Change"
It'll auto refresh the page every 5 seconds and notify you when something changes. IE the button changes from "Coming Soon" to "Order Now"
Maybe sharing this will hinder my ability to buy one.
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What url should we use this with?
It's live!
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Trade In Status Post

Created this post to keep track of all trade ins submitted. Please post any updates, problems, value and type of trade in you submitted so we can help each other.
I sent in a pixel xl 32 Verizon with a vibrating issue should be received by them this week ill post as soon as it get approved.
Can we use the box that was used to deliver the pixel XL 2? And should I remove the drband skin and screen protector from my trade in device, pixel XL 32gb..
They've had my trade in for approximately 9 business days. Not a word from them!! I'll be calling to find out what's the wonderful process and how long it takes. I'm tired of checking daily! They suck at releasing phones now adding trade in phones to orders. Ugh, what was I thinking. I'll report back.
Atticustrd said:
Can we use the box that was used to deliver the pixel XL 2? And should I remove the drband skin and screen protector from my trade in device, pixel XL 32gb..
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I think it has a prepaid for that envelope so i would just sent it in that and just take pictures of phone before you send it and i would leave everything in it i don't think it matters.
droidrev71 said:
They've had my trade in for approximately 9 business days. Not a word from them!! I'll be calling to find out what's the wonderful process and how long it takes. I'm tired of checking daily! They suck at releasing phones now adding trade in phones to orders. Ugh, what was I thinking. I'll report back.
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Please report back they have had mine for a couple of days and nothing yet, one question do you have your phone already it your still waiting?
cheapshot789 said:
Please report back they have had mine for a couple of days and nothing yet, one question do you have your phone already it your still waiting?
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Still waiting on my new phone.
droidrev71 said:
Still waiting on my new phone.
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Im thinking maybe there not going to post anything until phone gets shipped and charged i hope someone that already got phone and sent in trade in can post status
Got my 2 xl on the 19th and sent my original xl on the 20th. They should have it on the 23rd.
JagXK8 said:
Got my 2 xl on the 19th and sent my original xl on the 20th. They should have it on the 23rd.
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Cool please keep us updated
Atticustrd said:
Can we use the box that was used to deliver the pixel XL 2? And should I remove the drband skin and screen protector from my trade in device, pixel XL 32gb..
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I was told you could use a box, but to put the phone in the included envelope inside the box.
put the label on the box.
they seem adamant about using the padded envelope for some reason.
myself, I cut two pieces of cardboard to fit inside the envelope, then sandwiched the phone inside of those, put the label on, and wrapped that with clear packing tape.
just dropped off at post office today, will report as it progresses.
I made a copy of the shipping label and taped onto their padded envelope. Used the original label on the outside of a small box I put envelope in. Not sure why they gave us such shoddy envelopes to ship the phones back in?
I received my 2 XL on Thursday (10/19), but was out of town until Friday. I setup my 2 XL on Friday night and sent in my XL on Saturday. According to the tracking number, my XL will be delivered to Google on Monday (10/23). I'm interested to see how they will determine my trade-in value; being that my XL was a replacement refurbished unit from Google (my original XL just died on me one day). I'll keep everyone posted here.
sag7392 said:
I received my 2 XL on Thursday (10/19), but was out of town until Friday. I setup my 2 XL on Friday night and sent in my XL on Saturday. According to the tracking number, my XL will be delivered to Google on Monday (10/23). I'm interested to see how they will determine my trade-in value; being that my XL was a replacement refurbished unit from Google (my original XL just died on me one day). I'll keep everyone posted here.
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Mine hasn't shipped yet but I'm in the same boat. My original XL died less than a month ago and I received a refurb too. That wasn't one of the trade in questions asked, so I hope that won't be a problem for either of us.
I have not received my Pixel 2 XL yet but I already sent my original Pixel XL back. It was not my primary phone. I added extra bubble wrap before packing it in the envelope. I also did a video with the time/date on my monitor to prove when I did it. I showed every angle and that the screen is perfect. I also shut it down and booted it up on camera so they can't give me any s*it it is gets cracked in that flimsy envelope they sent.
Cover your a** folks. That envelope will not protect the phone if it takes a hard drop from 4'. They may want that envelope used but mine was huge due to all the extra bubble wrap I covered the phone in.
Trade-In Approved
I ended up trading in a Nexus 6p 64GB which they received on 10/13 per the tracking. No status changes on their site until my Pixel 2 XL shipped today (10/23). I got the email that my Pixel 2 XL had shipped and 5 minutes later received another email stating my trade in was received and how much I would receive back. The amount they approved was the same they quoted, so I can live with that.
The 2nd email I received had the subject "We received your phone for Trade In".
Body started off with: "Great news! We have examined the device you submitted for Trade In, and its value either matches or is more than the estimate."
Note: The only reason I traded in the 6p instead of selling it was that it developed the boot loop due to the 2nd core. It was not purchased from Google (Sprint store) and was out of warranty. I couldn't get Google or LG to replace it and I wouldn't sell it to an individual in that state. I had flashed the alternate kernel that made it run off 4 cores, so it was usable.
stroths said:
I ended up trading in a Nexus 6p 64GB which they received on 10/13 per the tracking. No status changes on their site until my Pixel 2 XL shipped today (10/23). I got the email that my Pixel 2 XL had shipped and 5 minutes later received another email stating my trade in was received and how much I would receive back. The amount they approved was the same they quoted, so I can live with that.
The 2nd email I received had the subject "We received your phone for Trade In".
Body started off with: "Great news! We have examined the device you submitted for Trade In, and its value either matches or is more than the estimate."
Note: The only reason I traded in the 6p instead of selling it was that it developed the boot loop due to the 2nd core. It was not purchased from Google (Sprint store) and was out of warranty. I couldn't get Google or LG to replace it and I wouldn't sell it to an individual in that state. I had flashed the alternate kernel that made it run off 4 cores, so it was usable.
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Thanks for the update so i guess we wont get any updates untill they ship the 2xl even if they have or trade in for a month which is stupid what if we decide to cancel the order what then for us that have to wait for another month or more
Just received confirmation that my phone has been received and inspected. A credit of $410 will appear on my account soon. They've had my phone for two weeks. My new phone is on the truck for delivery. Finally!!
I've also received an email stating I got the full 410.00 credit. I received my Pixel 2 XL this past Thursday on Oct 19th. Despite all the gripes going around, I'm truly loving this phone and haven't had any of the issues people are complaining about except for the slight blue tint at angles. But, it's hardly an issue that would cause problems with using the phone daily. The muted colors will be fixed either with a software update from Google, or with a custom kernel like Elemental or others.
So....I'm wondering how does this credit work for people who did Google Financing? Are they lowering the finance amount resulting in a lower monthly payment over the full 24 month term or applying the credit as full one time payment resulting in less payments?

Only 3 Years of Updates?

According to the Gizmodo Article dated the 11th of this month ( https://gizmodo.com/google-appears-to-be-killing-off-the-pixel-and-pixel-xl-1825194921 ), all updates for our Pixel XL phones will end on October 2019.
Like the article, this seems a bit premature to me. I'm loving my Pixel XL, and can currently see no reason to even think about getting rid of it. Is this unreasonable? Unfortunately, I'm not made of money and don't plan to just upgrade my phone every 2 years if I'm happy with the one that I have.
What do you all think? Does anyone else have anymore insight to this?
Drashnar said:
According to the Gizmodo Article dated the 11th of this month ( https://gizmodo.com/google-appears-to-be-killing-off-the-pixel-and-pixel-xl-1825194921 ), all updates for our Pixel XL phones will end on October 2019.
Like the article, this seems a bit premature to me. I'm loving my Pixel XL, and can currently see no reason to even think about getting rid of it. Is this unreasonable? Unfortunately, I'm not made of money and don't plan to just upgrade my phone every 2 years if I'm happy with the one that I have.
What do you all think? Does anyone else have anymore insight to this?
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Google Provides 2 years for OS and 1 year additional for Security patches but since we have treble we might get lucky and get a few extra updates
Well three years of OS update they should provide really. Given the price was on launch of OG Pixels, for unlocked models that is.
ithehappy said:
Well three years of OS update they should provide really. Given the price was on launch of OG Pixels, for unlocked models that is.
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Yep shame price doesn't effect quality of the updates... This device for sure deserves 3 years+ Not sure why for the Pixel 2 they gave 3 years OS but not us....
A shame that Pixel 2 now has 3 years of full updates and OG Pixel still only gets 2 years...

Pixel 2 XL Discontinued, and Not an April Fools Joke Either

Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL
While Google has been selling the Pixel 3 and 3XL for about six months now, the Pixel 2 and 2 XL are still very good phones, especially at discounted prices. But if you want one, you’ll have to act fast. Google has stopped selling the Pixel 2 and 2XL through its online store, which means whatever remaining stock at store like Best Buy and B&H Photo are sure to be extremely limited.
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Source: https://www.pcworld.com/article/338...googl-url-shortener-and-google-this-week.html
While not a major surprise in and of itself, this does mean the only new Pixel 2 XL devices remaining are the Verizon devices. There is a possibility of Amazon still having some unlocked devices, but for the most part anyone coming to this forum from this point onward is most likely to have a Verizon model.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Source: https://www.pcworld.com/article/338...googl-url-shortener-and-google-this-week.html
While not a major surprise in and of itself, this does mean the only new Pixel 2 XL devices remaining are the Verizon devices. There is a possibility of Amazon still having some unlocked devices, but for the most part anyone coming to this forum from this point onward is most likely to have a Verizon model.
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I think they are introducing mid-range devices that's why they are discontinuing the Pixel 2 n 2xl line up as the prices of these phones will be similar to the new midranges they will be releasing.
100rabh7791 said:
I think they are introducing mid-range devices that's why they are discontinuing the Pixel 2 n 2xl line up as the prices of these phones will be similar to the new midranges they will be releasing.
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The mid-range Pixels aren't the reason for this. Google normally discontinues sales of their older devices some six months after the release of a newer one.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The mid-range Pixels aren't the reason for this. Google normally discontinues sales of their older devices some six months after the release of a newer one.
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Oh okay. That might be the normal trend then. I thought its more of a business strategy to sell the mid-range. so nothing too drastic on Googles part.
100rabh7791 said:
Oh okay. That might be the normal trend then. I thought its more of a business strategy to sell the mid-range. so nothing too drastic on Googles part.
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That's why I said it wasn't much of a surprise.
I think they are introducing mid-range devices that's the main reason
astaineakash said:
I think they are introducing mid-range devices that's the main reason
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This has been the way they always do this so I doubt the new devices have anything to do with that
Still can get NIB Pixel 2 on Swappa.

Poor press = Black Friday discount?

So far the initial reviews have been pretty mediocre for the Pixel 4. This has got me wondering if there will be a big discount for Blake Friday sales like there was for the Pixel 3.
I've pre ordered all of the previous Pixels, but I'm holding off on the 4 for a couple of reasons.
1. The Pixel 3 got a big discount on Black Friday, barely a month after launch. That did / does feel like Google screwed over the early adopters that pre-ordered.
2. Questions about how apps will respond to the switch from fingerprint to face unlock. I don't know if the transition will be smooth or if there will be a delay until apps like banking will work with face unlock.
3. Competition, I'm debating picking up a One plus 7t or 7t pro. Sine Verizon is going LTE only there is no longer a reason not to use one of those. My number one priority is the phone being fast and those seem to be the fastest Android phones available. I'm also considering an iPhone 11 pro, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with Apple.
@atlp99 With questions like you have and the slightly disingenuous title of the thread I think you should wait until BF. I don't know which review you have read but I don't think it's fair to jump the gun without having a lot of hands-on. There are not as of yet. No matter the reviews you will get about 1/2 off on BF or perhaps a BOGO from a carrier. I don't believe Google will be giving a discount since so many carriers are selling the device.
Have you read anything about the biometric regarding fingerprint vs face unlock? You should before you ask a question like that. All in all I don't think this device is up your alley as a pre-order. Starting out with such negative ideas would not bode well for a positive user experience.
It will be interesting to see if there is a discount coming.
On the one hand, I agree with you that the reviews are mixed (many were published today). Battery size/performance is clearly and issue with the 4. Many reviewers are having issues with getting Soli gestures to work reliably too. The lack of storage space is also a negative. All of these things are going to be headwinds for Google trying to sell the Pixel 4.
But this is also the first Pixel phone that is available from all the major US service providers. That is going to make a huge difference and drive sales IMHO. While I always buy my phones outright, many people like to "pay as they go" with a monthly device fee. This is going help drive Pixel 4/4 XL sales like never before.
Like you, I am waiting until Black Friday before deciding if I am purchasing the Pixel 4XL and give my wife my Pixel 3aXL or if I am going to buy another 3a XL (or even a 3 xl if the sale price is compelling enough) for her. I certainly am never going to pay full retail price for the 4 or 4 XL. It is certainly not worth the price Google is asking for it.
If you enter XL territory, then you have plenty of options. If you stay at non-XL. There are much less.
For Pixel 4 XL you'll get better feedback on this forum.
To me, even the Nexus 5X was too big, still usable.
Now, going back to the topic. There's a HUGE chance the phones will be discounted in Black Friday. So If you don't want to pay premium for getting the phone 1 month earlier, you can save money by just waiting.
You can grab the regular pixel 4 for $699 on Amazon here but I'm not sure how long that will last :
https://www.amazon.com/Pixel-Clearl...BEQ0SQQK3MB&psc=1&refRID=QFZ52SHCRBEQ0SQQK3MB
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