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With Linpack I see people getting to 848mhz and even 1ghz.
I lose stability at 787mhz and I'm ok at 768. I know that different chips vary... but 1ghz difference?
Is there a way to overvolt on the Eris I don't know of?
The eris OC at 1ghz....thats a lie and some one is pulling your leg lol. The eris is not built handle that and if it did reach 1ghz the motherboard would burn up.
Yeah but 848mhz isn't so farfetched. I can do 787 for a while without any freezes. The freezes do happen though.
If you overvolt it shouldn't be impossible to get up to 848mhz.
As for the 1ghz + entries on linpack's site I think it must be another phone running Eris ROM's/ basebands.
Hungry Man said:
With Linpack I see people getting to 848mhz and even 1ghz.
I lose stability at 787mhz and I'm ok at 768. I know that different chips vary... but 1ghz difference?
Is there a way to overvolt on the Eris I don't know of?
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I can do 806 all day with Aloysius but my buddy with the same exact setup (i setup it up, so I nkow its exactly the same) can only get stable at 768.
I have not seen anyone with proof or that is respectable, show that they can keep their phone over 806.
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I do lol
So there are NO overvolt kernels/ methods?
I can run 806 stable with evil Eris 3, most of the other roms crash when I clock them at 806.
Lucky lol my processor seems to be stuck at 768. 787 doesn't last too long and it's not worth the random FC'ing. I'm sure it would be stable with more voltage and heat hasn't been an issue for me at all at 768 even with Pandora/ Zenonia running for quite a while I haven't gotten even lose 50C.
The question is why would one want to OC that high. I see absolutely no difference in performance at 710 vs anything higher. Probably even lower than that. I just don't see why you would want to run any higher and eat up your battery as well as tax the processor and board more when there isnt a noticeable difference other than linpack scores. Just my opinion but I think all new to OC'ing should be aware that faster isnt always better.
I know that lol I mean... a lot of people who overclock computers don't do it for a performance boost, they do it because they want to see if they can. They won't get better gaming performance they just get a slightly better benchmark.
I want to do it just to do it.
Ok rock on speed demon On that note, I wonder if it could be clocked to the max in a freezer room. If the low temp would help or if it is just hardware limited.
The MAIN problem with overclocking with voltage modification would be heat/ ****ty PSU. I'm sure the Eris battery can get up pretty high, it's a matter of staying cool. I would like to see how high I can get with cooling but I don't even know if overvolting exists for the Eris lol
Dont know about over but I know you can undervolt on it.
If there's undervolting there should be overvolting... someone has to know lol I've tried searching XDA and google but I can't find anything specific.
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The question is why would one want to OC that high. I see absolutely no difference in performance at 710 vs anything higher. Probably even lower than that. I just don't see why you would want to run any higher and eat up your battery as well as tax the processor and board more when there isnt a noticeable difference other than linpack scores. Just my opinion but I think all new to OC'ing should be aware that faster isnt always better.
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I tested 710, 768 and 806. I didnt just test with linpack either. I just used apps I normally would run, running for a few days and what not and noticed a difference from 710 to 768 but not really a noticeable diff from 768 to 806. I still keep it at 806 for reasons that my battery life is better. Dont ask me how or why but it just is. I have mine set at 806/480 and for sleep, 480/240. Now most of the day my phone is just in my desk drawer so that could be the reason but i still go a full day with heavy use at the end of the day (bt, wifi, internet radio, run keeper) and still have about 30%+ left when I go to sleep at 10
I have never had a problem with battery lol since overclocking my phone I've only increased battery life. Significantly so.
There has got to be some sweet spot there for OC'ing that gives best perform with least batt consumption. Just wish I knew what it was.
People are getting high because all processors aren't the same. So some can handle, some can't. As for the 1ghz it's a big lie. According to several people including jcase linpack scores can be easily edited and faked. I wouldn't believe anything on linpack that's outrageous.
I sorta figured they wre faking somehow. And I know some processors can handle higher speeds, that's the basis of overclocking. I want to know if I can overvolt my processor.
Can't help you there. Maybe go ask in the IRC? I'm curious if you can as well.
I can hit 787 and run stable... linkpack scores around 5.3-5.4. Oddly enough, my fone refuses to run at 768. I actually have to use a txt file for setcpu to remove 768 from the equation with profiles and the setcpu "trick" my battery life is GREAT. Much better than "stock" even.
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Hello people,
The CPU frequency on my DHD becomes stable at around 300MHz. Y is that ? The DHD has a 1GHz processor yet it doesn't consume at least most of it for better performance. Is root the only solution to my problem ?
Is there an average CPU frequency on DHDs ?
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The CPU frequency on my DHD becomes stable at around 300MHz.
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How do you come to that conclusion/statement?
When u mean stable?
What do you mean with stable? does it freeze or reboot on anyother freq?
Yes the Desire HD has a 1Ghz cpu, but that doesnt mean it runts on 1Ghz, it means its the max it runs.. its going up and down from 248 to 1024mhz all the time, depending on stress.. if it would be at 1024mhz 24/7 the battery would end faster than you´d like it...
And yes, its possible to control this settings through rooting and setCPU
The cpu is 1ghz but it throttles back to save power all cpus Do this. If you open a monitoring application chances are it sees the throttled speed and reports that first as the upclock is delayed
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As tvoben said, the processor frequency is variable depending upon the load. The CPU will only be at 1 GHz only when it needs to, e.g. games, videos etc. Most of the idle time, the CPU should be at a low frequency.
Yes its when it gets stuck at 1 ghz at 100% that u need to start to worry. HTC kindly allowed many users to exprerience the impact this has on battery life with the recent ota update.
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DHD usually runs at 681.87 MHz. When needed the clock speeds jumps to 1GHz.
Has anyone underclocked their Galaxy S? I personally think that overclock is a bit of a placebo effect so I just want to know if anyone has underclocked their phone and if they can kindly share the performance of the phone as well as some benchmarks.
I've seen SGS2 underclocked right down to 500mhz and still running smooth but is that due to the efficiently of the Cortex A9 or because it's dual core?
Feel free to share your experiences and benchmarks.
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Has anyone underclocked their Galaxy S? I personally think that overclock is a bit of a placebo effect so I just want to know if anyone has underclocked their phone and if they can kindly share the performance of the phone as well as some benchmarks.
I've seen SGS2 underclocked right down to 500mhz and still running smooth but is that due to the efficiently of the Cortex A9 or because it's dual core?
Feel free to share your experiences and benchmarks.
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I think we may achive smooth performance with some minor glitch at 800MHz and some minor improvement in battery.
But i dont see a point in underclocking,1GHz is just perfect for galaxy s.Moreover whats the point of buying so costly device and then underclock it???
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Lol i underclocked mine to 100 mhz but it dont run good at all. Ur phone is not running a gig all the time if it did ud loose use up ur battery in like 4 hours, it goes from 100 to 1000 mhz whenever it needs it, you can potentially set it to 400 and it will function but the battery saving wouldnt be that much, i think the screen takes at least half of your battery, since my phone on standby can do like two to three days and i can also kill it in 4 hours playing a game or using gps or surfing the web if anything underclock ( they call it undervolt) to 800 mhz and you will barely notice, your score on the benchmark is affected because most phones gpu is directly controlled by the cpu so undervolting will affect your fps which will give you laggy games or crappy benchmark scores
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Stock is best try miui it runs really smooth on sgs
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I actually Overclock it to 1.2..
I overclocked it to 1.2 and undervolt the from 800-1.2 -50mV
it was stable.. but then i undervolt -100mV from 100-200Mhz and my SGS crahsed..
I use semaphore 1.3.3... lol any idea what settings i should use ? xD
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I overclocked it to 1.2 and undervolt the from 800-1.2 -50mV
it was stable.. but then i undervolt -100mV from 100-200Mhz and my SGS crahsed..
I use semaphore 1.3.3... lol any idea what settings i should use ? xD
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UV in 25mV steps. Don't just try UV'ing 100mV straight away.
As above.
Daily use is very good, everything is responsive and fast.
However, benchmarks are roughly 50-70% of what they are supposed to be.
I tried to post a screenshot of CPU Spy, previously reseted timers and then ran BasemarkOS and Geekbench. (can't because less of 10 posts )
I see in CPU Spy that Max CPU state is 1555 Mhz? That's the A53 cores, right?
Is this behaviour normal?
Are you on Android N?
Please see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/4-cores-allways-stopped-whats-t3390543
rev_b said:
As above.
Daily use is very good, everything is responsive and fast.
However, benchmarks are roughly 50-70% of what they are supposed to be.
I tried to post a screenshot of CPU Spy, previously reseted timers and then ran BasemarkOS and Geekbench. (can't because less of 10 posts )
I see in CPU Spy that Max CPU state is 1555 Mhz? That's the A53 cores, right?
Is this behaviour normal?
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According to the Play Store, CPU Spy hasn't been updated in 3 or 5 years. Are you using an app that supports HMP?
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joemacjr said:
Are you on Android N?
Please see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/4-cores-allways-stopped-whats-t3390543
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No, the device is new, it's running Android 6.0.1, no mods or custom ROM whatsoever.
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According to the Play Store, CPU Spy hasn't been updated in 3 or 5 years. Are you using an app that supports HMP?
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So what is the best app to monitor cpu activity?
And why are my benchmarks so low?
For instance, I'm only getting ~25k in 3dmark Ice Storm Unlimited, roughly the same as my previous Nexus 6.
According to Anandtech I should be getting ~36k.
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So what is the best app to monitor cpu activity?
And why are my benchmarks so low?
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Kernel Adiutor is a free kernel manager. I prefer using ElementalX Kernel Manager (paid app). Both work perfectly fine on Marshmallow, support HMP, and receive frequent updates.
If the phone is hot, then benchmarks will suffer. The big cluster gets throttled and goes offline whenever the temperature reaches a certain point. If it is running cool and you see low scores then idk cuz I don't do benchmarks.
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If the phone is responsive and fast as you say why do benchmarks scores matter? Benchmarks are pointless, they give you a pretty useless set of numbers that don't equate to real world usage. If your real world usage is good (as you pointed out) then you're wasting time and energy worrying about something that doesn't matter.
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If the phone is responsive and fast as you say why do benchmarks scores matter? Benchmarks are pointless, they give you a pretty useless set of numbers that don't equate to real world usage. If your real world usage is good (as you pointed out) then you're wasting time and energy worrying about something that doesn't matter.
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I don't care about benchmarks, but they can point to a problem in your phone.
And I really would like to know how a phone sent to hardware testers consistently gets much higher benchmarks than the one I bought. Something's not right.
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I don't care about benchmarks, but they can point to a problem in your phone.
And I really would like to know how a phone sent to hardware testers consistently gets much higher benchmarks than the one I bought. Something's not right.
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I've had eight of these and none of them have performed well in benchmarks. Take from that what you will but I believe it's a problem that's common to the SD810, not necessarily that you have a defective unit.
rev_b said:
As above.
Daily use is very good, everything is responsive and fast.
However, benchmarks are roughly 50-70% of what they are supposed to be.
I tried to post a screenshot of CPU Spy, previously reseted timers and then ran BasemarkOS and Geekbench. (can't because less of 10 posts )
I see in CPU Spy that Max CPU state is 1555 Mhz? That's the A53 cores, right?
Is this behaviour normal?
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The phone is thermal throttling because the 810 Is overheating and the cores are being turned off. You can thank Qualcomm for their faulty overheating 810 design.
Batfink33 said:
The phone is thermal throttling because the 810 Is overheating and the cores are being turned off. You can thank Qualcomm for their faulty overheating 810 design.
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That still doesn't explain why phones sent to reviewers don't throttle so much...
sam here
I barely get my Bigger Cluster working
It's offline most of the time
I don;t mind the heat unless it doesn't damage my phone as I;m always using a cover
Any way I can change the throttle limits so that it throttles less?
will the CTT mod be good?
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sam here
I barely get my Bigger Cluster working
It's offline most of the time
I don;t mind the heat unless it doesn't damage my phone as I;m always using a cover
Any way I can change the throttle limits so that it throttles less?
will the CTT mod be good?
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Ctt mod does exactly that.
feis said:
Ctt mod does exactly that.
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Using CTT mod but still my Bigger cluster barely turns on
and also kernel Adiutor doesn't work sometimes, whenever I try to change something CPU related, it just keeps loading and loading
Most people say that A57 cores are disabled on MM. But it isnt True. As you can see on screenshots, they are working. Please post screenshot from cpu-z on android N.
It's not disabled completely, they become active as needed when temp is under control for them to be active.
how is the temp and battery in N
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pou_gh2 said:
how is the temp and battery in N
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Very Good.
I hope so. I don't really wanna update if the A57 cores don't work.
They are not stop on Mm but Android N
It is true that the cpu changed Android N to Quad core???
They totally ruined Device by pushing such update ????
I'd rather belive it's cpu-z problem, because antutu score did not change after upgrading to 7.0.
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I'd rather belive it's cpu-z problem, because antutu score did not change after upgrading to 7.0.
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Nope... It's Absolutely true.. 4 cores got disabled and working cores got underclocked to 1.5ghz
Don't belive the're underclocked. A53 cores runs at 1,5ghz as they should. We just don't have any app that can read actuall clock speed of A57 cores. But if they're disabled, I should not get any cpu usage on them. And I'm getting cpu usage on them!
What more, why we have the same benchmark scores as in Marshmallow?
Did anyone test this on lollipop? The cores themselves may not be disabled but I did notice their lack of use, no matter what game or app I use the 4 extra cores stay at 0 %.
Benchmarks such as atutu maybe specifically written to utilize all cores, but seeing their lack of use in general use is troubling.
As for the downclock the specification for this A57 is 2GHZ according to this.
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3+-6878.php
And I do remember the clock speed being different in MM.
And there's also this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62151047&postcount=17
So some downclocking was made.
Edit.
Something worth a note, thou some people may know this already, "Stamina Mode" does seem to hae some effect on CPU usage.
After disabling "stamina mode" or setting it to start when battery is low i started to notice some usage from A57 in general use, where before it was not used at all.
I confirm on Android 7 they are disabled (last update). What the hell is this...
microlynz said:
I confirm on Android 7 they are disabled (last update). What the hell is this...
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Care to give a prof of this claim?
foxsevent said:
Care to give a prof of this claim?
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Look to this... Idiot phone
microlynz said:
Look to this... Idiot phone
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I wouldn't say that's a proof, the cores may just not be in use atm, care to flash marshmallow or kittkat to test this?
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I wouldn't say that's a proof, the cores may just not be in use atm, care to flash marshmallow or kittkat to test this?
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When I flashed Android 6 MM the cores are working and the phone is very stable
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When I flashed Android 6 MM the cores are working and the phone is very stable
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They are not disabled, just in an inactive state ... sleeping.
AttilaGolik said:
They are not disabled, just in an inactive state ... sleeping.
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On Android 7 they never work. They keep on sleeping(or disabled it's the same thing)
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On Android 7 they never work. They keep on sleeping(or disabled it's the same thing)
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Well to truly test you would have to flash all the way to KK, as supposedly the cores are disabled on both MM and N.
But you are correct it doesn't matter, as the A57 is down clocked to 1.56GHz to match the A53, and the A57 is in constant sleep state, may as well be disabled, even when running full HD games it does nothing, i wiuld mind this that much if it helped to keep the phone cooler but even without the A57 Z3+ is a bloody furnace, 60C degrees on a cold day, when in use just browsing the web.
Did you notice any difference when testing MM and N, lags, slowdowns etc?
How about any benchmarks? in antutu i get from 50k to 80k and i didn't notice all cores being uses when beniching, the only way i ever saw all cores in use is when using a CPU stress app.
If i had to guess i would say that the phone switches between A57 and A53 depending on what you do bu i never noticed CORES 5-7 ever being used.