Hi guys, I have a Galaxy S4 I9505, and I've been reading for a while about KNOX "Counter". I want to root my S4, but I want to know if I root or unroot my KNOX Counter will increase from 0x0 to 0x1? And it is so, I can reset that Counter to 0x0? Because I don't want to lose my warranty.
Thanks in advance!
These are really basic question and have been asked a 1000 times already. If you really did read about Knox you would have find those basic anwsers. I don't think you have read much about Knox. There is a big thread here about Knox. You find your anwsers there.
Lennyz1988 said:
These are really basic question and have been asked a 1000 times already. If you really did read about Knox you would have find those basic anwsers. I don't think you have read much about Knox. There is a big thread here about Knox. You find your anwsers there.
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There are so many informations that you don't know want to trust or not, and I didn't said I read here on xda, you could give me a link, but thanks for help!
Rooting will Void Your Warranty but it will give u\you access to new world..
Knox
my friend, the link below is described completely the knox...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
its no problem if your device has not guaranty.
Ya I think that your device gt i9505 support triangleaway so you can reset your flash counter.
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samsung gt i9505 support triangle away, and reset counter.
But counter Knox, you can not reset.
just to clarify for you...."flash counter" is a counter that increases each time you flash a rom or whatever. the know 0x1 is a flag which doesn't continually increase, it will either be 0x0 meaning that it's a stock/official system, or it will be 0x1 meaning that the knox flag has been tripped because some part of the system has been modified (e.g. flashing custom rom or recovery, or rooting etc).
so if you want a totally official/full warranty guarantee, don't modify the device in anyway. if you've gone past your warranty date or just don't care about it then you can root/install custom roms kernels and recoveries, but this will likely trip the knox flag if you have the kitkat bootloader.
just saw geohots rooting solution called towelroot... any of you guys out there tried it on a s4 i9500 ? how bout knox flag ?
currently running android 4.4.2.. let me know and thanks !
the Knox warranty void counter is that if you'll root your device, your Knox app will not work on your device.there is no possible way to reset the Knox counter as for now.You never get OTA updates, because your phone will turn Official status to Custom.triangle away will reset the flash counter, but it will not reset the Knox warranty void counter.
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fleming.patel said:
the Knox warranty void counter is that if you'll root your device, your Knox app will not work on your device.there is no possible way to reset the Knox counter as for now.You never get OTA updates, because your phone will turn Official status to Custom.triangle away will reset the flash counter, but it will not reset the Knox warranty void counter.
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well I think you havent heard from geohots new rooting method, he claims to be able to root s5 and note 3 with the single installation of his application and pressing one single button. he even said when he tried it on his phone, knox counter was never tripped to 0x1. I was already aware of how knox worked and that there wasnt any rooting method that wont trip the knox flag. but as soon as I saw it on the forums, I went straight to ask if someone tested it on a i9500. so, anyone ?
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why don't you try it yourself?
Gloris said:
why don't you try it yourself?
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because i cant afford tripping knox and losing my warranty. just wanted to know if anyone had already done it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786128
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it's not 9500, but still an s4
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Thread Closed - Please see this thread towelroot works and Knox stays 0x0 after root
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Hy.
I just heard a towel root app, which garantee that the KNOX counter still 0x0.
Is it working with the new S5 especially SM-G900F (NE2)?
And what if I already use a CF-AutoRoot, what it means that my KNOX is 0x1. This app can change the counter back to 0x0?
Lewis0214 said:
Hy.
I just heard a towel root app, which garantee that the KNOX counter still 0x0.
Is it working with the new S5 especially SM-G900F (NE2)?
And what if I already use a CF-AutoRoot, what it means that my KNOX is 0x1. This app can change the counter back to 0x0?
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It works on ANE2 (I did it).
Nothing can change you Knox flag back to 0 if you trip it.
Been trying to look for an answer but all related thread seem to talk about KNOX tripped (counter 0x1)... But my case is different here.
I have rooted my S5 G900F with Towelroot without tripping KNOX. Right now the phone is running stock NG2 firmware with root and KNOX disabled (KNOX counter remain 0x0, device status Custom).
Due to work requirement, I need to encrypt my phone, but encryption won't works with KNOX disabled. My question is, is it possible to enable KNOX (while rooted), then go on with encryption and disable KNOX after the encryption. If so, how? What is the effect of having KNOX enabled while remain rooted?
Good question
This question has been asked in the CF-Root thread many times. CF recommends to keep it disabled. Otherwise, the phone will be unstable (autoreboot) and other strange things could happen. Read CF-Root thread for more details.
After some reading, it seems like you can restore KNOX by: unrooting with superSU, flashing a stock rom, and do a data factory reset.
Check this link for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/unroot-rooted-towelroot-sm-g900f-t2804788
Hope this helps.
TheSamWolf said:
After some reading, it seems like you can restore KNOX by: unrooting with superSU, flashing a stock rom, and do a data factory reset.
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/unroot-rooted-towelroot-sm-g900f-t2804788
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The system status and current binaries both have to be showed as official in downloadmode to use KNOX.
Dark_Avenger said:
This question has been asked in the CF-Root thread many times. CF recommends to keep it disabled. Otherwise, the phone will be unstable (autoreboot) and other strange things could happen. Read CF-Root thread for more details.
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I read that, but I didn't use CF-Root to obtain root (as it well trip KNOX), i used TowelRoot (without tripping KNOX). Don't know if it would behave the same as the CF-Root method.
Thanks for pointing out.
TheSamWolf said:
After some reading, it seems like you can restore KNOX by: unrooting with superSU, flashing a stock rom, and do a data factory reset.
Check this link for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/unroot-rooted-towelroot-sm-g900f-t2804788
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That means I have to unroot it, not exactly what i'm looking for...
AFAIK Knox (the software container) will never ever be enabled when you are rooted (even with Knox counter set to 0x0).
I believe it checks on root access.
As I understand it correctly, the company where you work for only requires that your phone is encrypted and not manageable ?
I work for one of the largest companies in the world and my phone (S3) is not allowed to be rooted.
The container software (Airwatch) checks on that.
When every check is confirmed, only then will it make a container and encrypts the data in that container.
And from administrators it can be managed, like remote wipe, anti-theft, etc
speedme said:
AFAIK Knox (the software container) will never ever be enabled when you are rooted (even with Knox counter set to 0x0).
I believe it checks on root access.
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That was my understanding too!
To re-enable KNOX, reflash stock firmware as described. After that, you can try again (towel) rooting your device, and Do Not disable KNOX. Though, I read that root will not work quite correctly?
Please write back with your results if you try it!!!
You probably right that Knox won't work when phone is rooted...
Well, with My Knox available now, no full phone encryption is required (as encryption will only be within the Knox container). Maybe one fine day I'll reset my phone, root then unroot temporary in order to try My Knox...
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Hey Guys,
I have a doubt on using KNOX.
Actually I don't care about tripping my Knox Counter. (0x1) but I just require to know whether I can use KNOX just like before rooting without any problems?
If Warranty is the only concern to be worried about , due to rooting of the phone; I can live with it, but does rooting limits/restricts the users from using KNOX and any/all of its functionality totally?
xda rocks said:
Hey Guys,
I have a doubt on using KNOX.
Actually I don't care about tripping my Knox Counter. (0x1) but I just require to know whether I can use KNOX just like before rooting without any problems?
If Warranty is the only concern to be worried about , due to rooting of the phone; I can live with it, but does rooting limits/restricts the users from using KNOX and any/all of its functionality totally?
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In my experience(for what it's worth, lol), I have seen no performance issues with Knox functionality by rooting. Flashing through Odin trips the warranty counter and voids warranty. There are apps that disable Knox but the ones I've seen warn you before doing so. Hope that helps. Good luck
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xda rocks said:
Hey Guys,
I have a doubt on using KNOX.
Actually I don't care about tripping my Knox Counter. (0x1) but I just require to know whether I can use KNOX just like before rooting without any problems?
If Warranty is the only concern to be worried about , due to rooting of the phone; I can live with it, but does rooting limits/restricts the users from using KNOX and any/all of its functionality totally?
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You will NEVER be able to use the Knox Container EVER again after ur counter says 0x1... Samsung made it for business enterprises for security concerns, if these *Android Hackers and Modders* will just bypass the Knox security then Samsung wouldn't have business enterprises using the Knox Container because it can just easily be bypassed..
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trettet said:
You will NEVER be able to use the Knox Container EVER again after ur counter says 0x1... Samsung made it for business enterprises for security concerns, if these *Android Hackers and Modders* will just bypass the Knox security then Samsung wouldn't have business enterprises using the Knox Container because it can just easily be bypassed..
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Makes sense...!!! But I see almost everyone requesting to get a root access mentioning about Warranty void. I was wondering if that is the only reason can we use knox even after making our phone warranty void. Anyways I got the idea. :sly:
I need help
please some one .. i need help and it's so important . one of my friend encrypted his data though knox and regardless of what super su and root do with knox and it's disabling knox ... he rooted his phone ! (he is todler and didn't take notice )
anyway his knox now is disabled and he can't access to his data because in security knox is disabled .. how can we enable knox so he can decrypt knox with password and access to his data ... thanks in advance and keep in mind that please guys if you are not sure about how can solve problem without losing data , guide me . data encrypted with knox is so important to him .
target device is Galaxy note 3 n9005 .
You cant use knox on rooted device
When uroot your device, ur device status nd binaries change to custom. KNOX checks that. If the binaries are custom, you cant use KNOX ever.
Is there a way to completely unroot and go back to KNOX 0x0, all official? Even if we pay Samsung service centre?
true sir, my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge unable to even install myknox after flash back to stock rom
Hello, I got a Note 4 that is unrooted, if I root my phone now I will trip my knox counter, does anyone know if there will be a knox counter reset like note 3 in the future? Or is it impossible to have knox counter reseter in the future? :crying::crying:
In short YES. As far as I know, there is no way of rooting the GN4 without tripping Knox. Doing so breaks the Knox environment. I don't think there is a counter resetting mechanism for it.
cwk8412 said:
Hello, I got a Note 4 that is unrooted, if I root my phone now I will trip my knox counter, does anyone know if there will be a knox counter reset like note 3 in the future? Or is it impossible to have knox counter reseter in the future? :crying::crying:
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As mentioned many times before, it will trip KNOX And no way to reset.
If you are worried about KNOX you should not be rooting or changing roms etc.