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Note 3 vs 5s Graphics

I didnt realize how much the note 3 totally blows the doors off the graphics of the 5s. Look at the 3dmark ice storm benchmarks. Is the 5s really that bad compared to the Note 3 snapdragon or am I missing something?
Note 3 vs. 5s
19,661 vs 13,858

1 . Yea the note 3 is a better phone
2. Benchmarks are meaningless as they don't relate to real world use at all.
3. That benchmark test is most likely not optimized to take advantage of the 64 bit processor in the 5s

clninja said:
1 . Yea the note 3 is a better phone
2. Benchmarks are meaningless as they don't relate to real world use at all.
3. That benchmark test is most likely not optimized to take advantage of the 64 bit processor in the 5s
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4. Along with most apps are not optimized to take advantage of the 64 bit processor in the 5s....

And 64bit would have very little relevance in those tests anyways. Main advantage of 64bit is basically allowing more RAM....

Ya, I've heard the real world argument a lot. Optimization can only make up for so much though and it's helpful to at least get an idea of performance with a benchmark test. I remember when the 4s was out the gpu was much faster than what was available to us at the time. Nice to see it reversed now.

MatAuc12 said:
And 64bit would have very little relevance in those tests anyways. Main advantage of 64bit is basically allowing more RAM....
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Just as important, twice as many bits per clock cycle... probably more important...

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/
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MatAuc12 said:
And 64bit would have very little relevance in those tests anyways. Main advantage of 64bit is basically allowing more RAM....
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and Apple choose to give the 5s 1GB RAM :laugh:

I laughed so hard at the Note 3/iPhone 5s in this video:
http://youtu.be/S1aLqMJPQC4
It truly helped me realize the silliness of doubting choosing the Note 3 over getting the 5s
I'm just hoping that today's Android will treat me better the olden days of Gingerbread on my HTC Evo.

nimitch said:
I laughed so hard at the Note 3/iPhone 5s in this video:
http://youtu.be/S1aLqMJPQC4
It truly helped me realize the silliness of doubting choosing the Note 3 over getting the 5s
I'm just hoping that today's Android will treat me better the olden days of Gingerbread on my HTC Evo.
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That was painful yet enjoyable to watch.

not much difference between the 801 and 805

http://tabtec.com/android/snapdragon-805-vs-snapdragon-801-new-results-surface/
Your phone is not outdated with the cat 6 check it out.

android_4life said:
http://tabtec.com/android/snapdragon-805-vs-snapdragon-801-new-results-surface/
Your phone is not outdated with the cat 6 check it out.
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Interesting

Yes but when more quad he content like games starts becoming available the adreno 420 will show much improvement.

Yes but the only thing I care about is battery life. I think it will be better on the 805.
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The cat 6 has one thing the original doesn't which is better future prove thanks to it being able to run 64 apps.

Wow! Did I drink too much tonight, because I am having a hard time reading and understanding some of these posts?

It's not only 801 vs 805, you have to include the GPU as well to see the difference regarding a smartphone.
And the Adreno 420 is a whole other story than the 330...

Fir3blade said:
It's not only 801 vs 805, you have to include the GPU as well to see the difference regarding a smartphone.
And the Adreno 420 is a whole other story than the 330...
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The GPU is built in. It's not like a 801 can come paired with the adreno 420.
One thing not factored in though is thermal throttling with our phones. The 805 may have more problems with that in the G3 but not in non LG phones so the difference could be a lot larger in whatever phones that may have it.

flaring afro said:
The GPU is built in. It's not like a 801 can come paired with the adreno 420.
One thing not factored in though is thermal throttling with our phones. The 805 may have more problems with that in the G3 but not in non LG phones so the difference could be a lot larger in whatever phones that may have it.
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Dude I am aware of this.... ?

frankgreimes said:
The cat 6 has one thing the original doesn't which is better future prove thanks to it being able to run 64 apps.
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Well...lucky for us there will be millions of smartphones unable to run 64 apps
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Fir3blade said:
Dude I am aware of this.... ?
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Which is why it IS just a 801 vs 805 thing and your first statement doesn't make sense...

anyone here have the f460 rooted?

flaring afro said:
Which is why it IS just a 801 vs 805 thing and your first statement doesn't make sense...
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Have a nice day...

Nexus 6 or not

Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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anees167 said:
Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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First thing, there is always something better round the corner, so when this new chip comes out, there will be an even better one planned for 6 months time. Second, apart from the kick of having the best hardware, would you necessarily be using it?
I say that since the N4 doesn't have 4G (apart from the modem hacks which aren't valid for Europe, where I am). I don't miss it, since I don't have a need for ultra-fast data transmission on my phone.
If you really need/expect to use the possibilities that the hardware enables, if I were you, I would wait until a terminal is equipped with it. If it's not critical, I'd go for either the N6 or an equivalent hi-end Xiaomi or Oppo.

anees167 said:
Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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even if the hardware becomes outdated its still going to be strong enough for pretty much anything for couple of years but again If they put **** to mediocre battery life as usual then no thanks

Well it's the "perfect" useless 2K screen that's gonna eat up the battery. I hate QHD on 5-inchers.

You have good valid points but normally Qualcomm have updated their chips at a good rate and considering the fact on estimate around 4 months after the Nexus 6 release the chip would be a big difference in performance in every way and looking at their site. It will also have pretty cool featues
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In my opinion it's impossible to talk about buying/not buying the Nexus 6 as long as we have no official specs and before it is released

We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.

lg
n6 or google silver,hardware software to much confision but will be best again i guess

Planterz said:
We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.
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Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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anees167 said:
Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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Yeah, I know...
It's been a while since Motorola made a phone with a removable battery, and it's been a while since we've seen a Nexus with one.
My next phone, as soon as I can afford one, will most likely be a Sony Z3 Compact (although I might pick up a second Nexus 4 first). I love using big screens, but I hate carrying one. Months ago I was hoping to pick up a Z1 Compact and a OnePlus One. But life happened, and I can't afford those anymore, and even if I could, the Z3 is out soon, and the OPO...well...'nuff said. I still like the idea of having a smaller phone for daily life, then swapping the SIM to a phablet for gaming at home or reading eBooks. The Nexus 6 or S or whatever they end up calling it might just fill that spot if the price isn't absurd, but that'll probably have to wait until tax season.

[Q] Where should i buy my Galaxy s4, is galaxy s4 the best option ?

OK, i've been looking phones for days and 3 days ago i ordered a Galaxy s4 on Bestbuy for 500 $ ( tax included ).
I was going to buy a factory international unlocked verison on amazon for 350 $ ish , but i saw some bad reviews ( some say it's fake, some say it's refurbished ) and i decided rather just buy from bestbuy but it's been THREE days !!! they havent ship my phone yet.
Do you guys think i should just cancel the order and buy one from amazon or ebay for 350$, but i think those factory unlocked version doesn't have warranty at all !!
I need help !!

s4 its good phone u will enjoy:thumbup: and I always buy international version cos u get updates direct from samsung not from crappie networks
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.

noremac258 said:
If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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How does 300mhz fast help.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "

Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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noremac258 said:
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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DeepankarS said:
Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon based chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.

noremac258 said:
There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon pased chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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But still the aggregate increase remains 21%.
Maths aint that tough brother. we are talking the same thing.
21% faster with no ext mem support, no IR blaster and tons of other features go missing. And still the wide acceptance and reputation of the S4 stands strong.
Plus here in India the S5 is almost the same price of a nexus 32gb. Why would one go for a "nexus" in that case too.
Plus Why not buy the google play edition Galaxy S4?
Where is the difference now mate? Just a processor. Camera, build quality, vendor reputation.??
Plus a S4 is A S4. Comparing processing speeds of different processors is no harm. Why do people then compare apple with samsung? Apple is still a dual core with a 1gb ram. So why are they bashed for hardware. I havent seen an iphone lag. (exclude i4 i4s)
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Stop guys, everyone comes here thinks "Damn, I came in a battlefield?" [emoji14]
Tastes are tastes, everyone of us has different tastes among all other... First, Nexus 5 is faster for CPU frequency and GPU is more powerful than S4 (talking about I9505 that beats i9500), S5 is faster than Nexus 5.
How many guys among you may use Nexus 5 at its higher CPU frequency? How many hours battery lasts?
In my opinion, I used a Nexus 5 (with CM11 as my S4) and found that I can't notice any speed difference in normal and heavy use between its 2.3GHz CPU and my S4 with this frequencies: 1 core 1.67GHz, 2/3/4 core 1.45GHz. Even in games, S4 can run any game for Android without problems.
What about Cameras? What about S4's AMOLED vs N5's LCD? What about display density? And IR blaster?
Nexus 5 is more brute force and developer-like, not the best for multimediality.
S4's cameras shoot definitely better, display is superior, has IR led built-in if you want to command your IR devices like televisions, air conditioners, set top boxes, xbox etc. And it's not all [emoji6]
I was almost selling my device to buy Oneplus One, but I can't because I love my S4 guys, it's too perfect in my opinion.
Don't do always and only the "run for GHz", think about everything else too
There are also tons of other things to say, but it's late here and I'm sleepy [emoji42]
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One plus with 810, a failure since 820 is on its way?

So, we all read the news about the new multi-cpu snapdragon 820 that is targeted for midrange (?) Devices, but outperforms 810 and also has better thermal behaviour(?).
So, why did the oneplus guys rush to celebrate the inclusion of the 810 v2.1 (or something that has better thermal behaviour)? Using the 820, since it is not the flagship, wouldn't have been a better marketing deal?
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They'd have to redesign the phone for it to include the 820, which means it wouldn't be ready for release when they want to release it. Plus the 820 isn't even ready for market yet so that'd push release back even further. If we were constantly waiting for the next great thing we'd never get anything released.

trotos said:
So, we all read the news about the new multi-cpu snapdragon 820 that is targeted for midrange (?) Devices, but outperforms 810 and also has better thermal behaviour(?).
So, why did the oneplus guys rush to celebrate the inclusion of the 810 v2.1 (or something that has better thermal behaviour)? Using the 820, since it is not the flagship, wouldn't have been a better marketing deal?
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I think you're mistaken, there was a news these days that says it was a snapdragon 620 that outperforms 810 in some single-core benchmarks. 820 is definitely for high end smartphones, but it hasn't even been announced yet. There is always gonna be something better down the pipe, OP3 perhaps.

820 will be available for the masses around Christmas IF everything plays well. I feel it more like Q1 2016.

Well what do you expect, of course 1+1 will get leftovers or else they would lose $ at the price point they sell.
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It really wouldn't make a difference.
The iPhone is still a DUAL CORE and it performs great.
Optimization is key.

OmegaBlaze said:
It really wouldn't make a difference.
The iPhone is still a DUAL CORE and it performs great.
Optimization is key.
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BOOM!!!
This guy nailed it!
I'm so sick and tired of everybody just being a spec whore these days.
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
BOOM!!!
This guy nailed it!
I'm so sick and tired of everybody just being a spec whore these days.
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Its not about being spec whore. Its just 810 have heat issue and supposedly 820 comes with better thermal management. However, there is no one who even lay his hand officially on OP2 yet so can't say for sure how 810 2.1 handle the heat. Don't bring Z3+ and Mi Note Pro on this as they have their own setup for their device.