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I just jumped ship from nexus one one to nexus s I love it you will too... its nice people ...
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Should've waited for a dual core-core android by HTC.just saying...
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Yea, it's nice, but where am i gonna dig up $529?
Root it and provide system dumps
I just bought one out right with no contract, and I will see how I like it for the next few days.
First impression is that its def a finger magnet. Overall, the phone is much snappier than my OC N1 running Rod's latest MIUI ROM. Gingerbread has some nice improvements but I am already missing the MIUI slide screen. Someone please port it over ASAP .
The screen, while being the S-AMOLED, isnt a night and day difference from the N1 screen.
More on the phone as I continue to use it.....
tuan209 said:
I just bought one out right with no contract, and I will see how I like it for the next few days.
First impression is that its def a finger magnet. Overall, the phone is much snappier than my OC N1 running Rod's latest MIUI ROM. Gingerbread has some nice improvements but I am already missing the MIUI slide screen. Someone please port it over ASAP .
The screen, while being the S-AMOLED, isnt a night and day difference from the N1 screen.
More on the phone as I continue to use it.....
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Would love to know more about the VOIP integration.
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Should've waited for a dual core-core android by HTC.just saying...
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There is always something to wait for. I have never found the single core on my N1 to be lacking, so I highly doubt I will find the significantly faster single core in my Nexus S lacking. If dual cores are a big deal 6 months from now I will sell the Nexus S and trade up.
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Yea, it's nice, but where am i gonna dig up $529?
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Sell your N1, then you will only have to come up with $150-$180.
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I just jumped ship from nexus one one to nexus s I love it you will too... its nice people ...
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So?
This needs to be moved to the Nexus S forum
Mactagonist said:
I have never found the single core on my N1 to be lacking, so I highly doubt I will find the significantly faster single core in my Nexus S lacking.
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I don't think the Hummingbird is "significantly faster" than Snapdragon. Sammy has better GPU performance, which is what is mostly noticed. Both are clocked at 1GHz. I do believe Hummingbird performs slightly better than Snapdragon (can't recall why I have that belief, though), but when comparing strictly processor performance, it's minimal. The GPU is the big difference.
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So?
This needs to be moved to the Nexus S forum
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Seriously! Take it over there...
SoberGuy said:
I don't think the Hummingbird is "significantly faster" than Snapdragon. Sammy has better GPU performance, which is what is mostly noticed. Both are clocked at 1GHz. I do believe Hummingbird performs slightly better than Snapdragon (can't recall why I have that belief, though), but when comparing strictly processor performance, it's minimal. The GPU is the big difference.
Seriously! Take it over there...
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@soberguy Well another point to the single core issue is not things that are taking place right now but things that are taking place over the next year. Developers are going to start making high thing that will require dual core for maxium performace. Also.....where are the moderators to move this
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@soberguy Well another point to the single core issue is not things that are taking place right now but things that are taking place over the next year. Developers are going to start making high thing that will require dual core for maxium performace. Also.....where are the moderators to move this
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Oh no trust me, you and I agree. I'm not getting the S with dual core around the corner. I think it's a complete waste of money. The S has some advantages over the 1, but to me, they aren't worthwhile with dual core coming very, very soon.
I just wanted to point out that Hummingbird and Snapdragon are both 1GHz, and I don't think that Hummingbird is significantly faster than Snapdragon. GPU is a different story; we all know that has been HTC's achilles heel for some time now (go back to their WinMo days and the driver fiasco...).
You and I agree, bud. The S isn't worth it, and this thread is in the wrong damn forum.
SoberGuy said:
I don't think the Hummingbird is "significantly faster" than Snapdragon. Sammy has better GPU performance, which is what is mostly noticed. Both are clocked at 1GHz. I do believe Hummingbird performs slightly better than Snapdragon (can't recall why I have that belief, though), but when comparing strictly processor performance, it's minimal. The GPU is the big difference.
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It is hard to know until you have both GalaxyS/2.2 with NexusS/2.3 running side by side, as they have the same CPU/GPU combination and the only difference is the OS.
It could well be that 2.3 uses the GPU for something what 2.2 was doing with CPU alone. And this could turn out as the biggest difference.
I am sure that N1 GPU as such is plenty fast enough, as it is used by the most of the current WP7 phones. Nobody seems to be complaining about the "jerkiness" of the WP7 interface. It is actually a matter of the time and effort sank into UI and the underlying graphics drivers. As a consequence, it can also happen, that N1 graphics drivers get less optimized as the ones in NS. We will see.
Even if dual core “around the corner” I honestly don’t think we will see optimized software for at least 6 months.... Look at the desktop computing world.. It took nearly a year for dual core to make a difference back when it was intel core solo vs core duo (or amd64 vs X2)... The software just took a lil longer to catch up. Even now, its taking awhile for a quad core to be worth it over a dual core
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Oh no trust me, you and I agree. I'm not getting the S with dual core around the corner. I think it's a complete waste of money. The S has some advantages over the 1, but to me, they aren't worthwhile with dual core coming very, very soon.
I just wanted to point out that Hummingbird and Snapdragon are both 1GHz, and I don't think that Hummingbird is significantly faster than Snapdragon. GPU is a different story; we all know that has been HTC's achilles heel for some time now (go back to their WinMo days and the driver fiasco...).
You and I agree, bud. The S isn't worth it, and this thread is in the wrong damn forum.
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actually the cpu on the snapdragon is faster for computational tasks thanks to its FPU. hummingbird is on par to much slower in terms of computations (its linpack is like 14 lol)
the gpu is what separates the hummingbird from the snapdragon which is why hummingbirds seem better due to its overall performance
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actually the cpu on the snapdragon is faster for computational tasks thanks to its FPU. hummingbird is on par to much slower in terms of computations (its linpack is like 14 lol)
the gpu is what separates the hummingbird from the snapdragon which is why hummingbirds seem better due to its overall performance
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Excellent post, Sir. I always had the impressions, for some reason, that Hummingbird was a touch better, but the GPU made it really excel. It's great to hear that Snapdragon is actually a bit better, but is in fact held back due to the GPU. This makes me reconsider my next purchase significantly. I was thinking of holding off on HTC, as they'll continue to use Qualcom. Perhaps I'll stick with HTC, depending on when they have a dual core available for AT&T frequencies.
Ima gonna puke with all this crap about nexus s. It sucks people its made by samsung. Plastic shell cheap ****. Gps problems will come out soon and u ppl will be crying why I brought it! It's a galaxy s phone so I won't be surprised if tons of **** is wrong with it. Get the new LG phone instead or muizu m9
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Even if dual core “around the corner” I honestly don’t think we will see optimized software for at least 6 months.... Look at the desktop computing world.. It took nearly a year for dual core to make a difference back when it was intel core solo vs core duo (or amd64 vs X2)... The software just took a lil longer to catch up. Even now, its taking awhile for a quad core to be worth it over a dual core
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But that was the first time people had seen dual core on any device. Now it's been around a while and people know what they are dealing with.
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soon and u ppl will be crying why I brought it!
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Hopefully they cry on the nexus s forum.....
So, I don't know if I'm the only one, but the only mention of dual core in a device that I've seen is the new Motorola Stingray tablet they were using to show off Maps 5. I don't even think Ginger supports Dual core. I honestly don't think we'll see anything dual core until Honeycomb.
Is there really any reason for NEEDING a dual-core processor in your phone? The only reason I can see for having it is to brag about it.
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The screen, while being the S-AMOLED, isnt a night and day difference from the N1 screen.
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Must be worse than the screen on the SGS then as the SGS I had had a clearly far better screen than the N1.
Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
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Wait for the Galaxy S5. It will surely be faster than both.
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U must be joking! Now i use motorola razr. I will change my phone in this year. Should i buy s4 or wait nexus 5? There is a rumour nexus 5 cpu is snapdragon 800. Is snapdragon 800 cpu faster than exynos octa 5?
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monpeso said:
U must be joking! Now i use motorola razr. I will change my phone in this year. Should i buy s4 or wait nexus 5? There is a rumour nexus 5 cpu is snapdragon 800. Is snapdragon 800 cpu faster than exynos octa 5?
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Sure but they say that the Kyocera ultra is coming out soon with a new snapdragon 800 plus with an advance CPU and it makes great decaf coffee too. Should probably wait for that one.
if xda dev enable all 8 cores running performance should be same as 2.3ghz s800
even if 4 a15 clock at 2ghz should be same as 2.3ghz s800
but adreno 330 better than the adreno 320 and 533mp3 for sure
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if xda dev enable all 8 cores running performance should be same as 2.3ghz s800
even if 4 a15 clock at 2ghz should be same as 2.3ghz s800
but adreno 330 better than the adreno 320 and 533mp3 for sure
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This is only my guess, but IF that was even possible to run all 8 cores at the same time it most likely will not run at full speed because of the amount of heat that would be generated by running all 8 cores at once.
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Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
Sorry for bad English!!
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Adreno 330 will smoke the 544mp3
Cpu speed could be about the same
snapdragon will blow exynos cos exynos already par with s600 but s800 will be monster
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snapdragon will blow exynos cos exynos already par with s600 but s800 will be monster
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Lol please stop talking. The exynos octa smothers the s600 in benchmarks while at a lower clock.
Anywho, there were some leaked benchmarks a little while back I saw
(Don't remember where) for the s800 and it hit slightly higher than the Tegra 4 on antutu. But it also was clocked at 2.3ghz where as the t4 was 2 ghz.so to answer your question no, the s800 really isn't anything special compared to a15 chips, and exynos outperforms tegra. But the krait chips probably have slightly better efficiency. So maybe it might be worth looking into, the gpu (330) will most likely outperform the power vr marginally, not that it even matters at this point. From the bit I researched the s800 doesn't deviate too greatly from three s600 aside from higher peak frequencies and large band width
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Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
Sorry for bad English!!
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We can't compare something which isn't even out yet, so I wonder if there is any use of this thread
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Lol please stop talking. The exynos octa smothers the s600 in benchmarks while at a lower clock.
Anywho, there were some leaked benchmarks a little while back I saw
(Don't remember where) for the s800 and it hit slightly higher than the Tegra 4 on antutu. But it also was clocked at 2.3ghz where as the t4 was 2 ghz.so to answer your question no, the s800 really isn't anything special compared to a15 chips, and exynos outperforms tegra. But the krait chips probably have slightly better efficiency. So maybe it might be worth looking into, the gpu (330) will most likely outperform the power vr marginally, not that it even matters at this point. From the bit I researched the s800 doesn't deviate too greatly from three s600 aside from higher peak frequencies and large band width
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You might want to check other threads yourself before stating "facts" like that.
With the final firmware, things seem different, both version are pretty close to each other, sometimes the S600 version wins, sometimes the Octa does.
But most of the time, it seems the Octa has a faster CPU, but the overclocked Adreno 320 in the S600 version of the S4 beats the PowerVR 544MP3 of the Octa version.
Here's a comparison with the latest and most strenuous benchmark from GLBenchmark :
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
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Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
Sorry for bad English!!
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I would wait for Nexus 5, i know it's painful, but trust me, it's gonna be whort it.
Mithrandir007 said:
You might want to check other threads yourself before stating "facts" like that.
With the final firmware, things seem different, both version are pretty close to each other, sometimes the S600 version wins, sometimes the Octa does.
But most of the time, it seems the Octa has a faster CPU, but the overclocked Adreno 320 in the S600 version of the S4 beats the PowerVR 544MP3 of the Octa version.
Here's a comparison with the latest and most strenuous benchmark from GLBenchmark :
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
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Glbenchmarks are not a good way for comparing gaming performance.
I think, gaming would be quite same on both devices.
i9100g user said:
Glbenchmarks are not a good way for comparing gaming performance.
I think, gaming would be quite same on both devices.
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That's ultimately what I meant, but you're right.. benchmarks are not the best way to compare gaming performance, but right now, it's pretty much all we have to compare
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You might want to check other threads yourself before stating "facts" like that.
With the final firmware, things seem different, both version are pretty close to each other, sometimes the S600 version wins, sometimes the Octa does.
But most of the time, it seems the Octa has a faster CPU, but the overclocked Adreno 320 in the S600 version of the S4 beats the PowerVR 544MP3 of the Octa version.
Here's a comparison with the latest and most strenuous benchmark from GLBenchmark :
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Lol you tell me to check other threads then repeat exactly what I just said? Anyways, I'm not basing my info of a single stream on benchmarks conducted by someone after a few firmware updates, that doesn't show anything and certainly doesn't do much towards leveling the playing ground between the two soc's. I've done pretty extensive research into the architectures of mobile chipsets, both Qualcomm and arm designs; mostly reading up on how each generation changes from one to the next and some blue prints. S600, or even s800, based chips will not perform as well as any a15 chip. More efficient? Definitely, but that's about it. In fact the s800 architecture really doesn't deviate that greatly from the dated krait s4.
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Damn the Gs4 has 8 cores what Gigs is the processor 1.8?
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Damn the Gs4 has 8 cores what Gigs is the processor 1.8?
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The international variant has 8, with only 4 being able to be active at a time. 4 a15 cores clocked at 1.6ghz, and 4 a7 which I believe are clocked at 1.2 (I could be very wrong). Most of the world is receiving the i9505 variant which uses Qualcomm's s600 quad core though
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Lol you tell me to check other threads then repeat exactly what I just said? Anyways, I'm not basing my info of a single stream on benchmarks conducted by someone after a few firmware updates, that doesn't show anything and certainly doesn't do much towards leveling the playing ground between the two soc's. I've done pretty extensive research into the architectures of mobile chipsets, both Qualcomm and arm designs; mostly reading up on how each generation changes from one to the next and some blue prints. S600, or even s800, based chips will not perform as well as any a15 chip. More efficient? Definitely, but that's about it. In fact the s800 architecture really doesn't deviate that greatly from the dated krait s4.
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Hmm, you were the one talking about benchmarks (and how the Octa smothers the SD600 in them), I only gave you a link to one (that should be among the best benchmarks for GPU) that contradicts what you said.
If you want links to other benchmarks showing the same type of results between the 2 SOC, it's not hard to find either, it's not like this is the only benchmark giving these results.
Also, theoretical performance (based on blue prints, and the architecture of the SOCs) is one thing, but it does not always translate to practical performance.
To tell you the truth, I was pretty sure I'd import the i9500, but I'm changing my mind more and more based on what I'm reading.
I'm still not sure right now though
But in real life use and gaming, it shouldn't really make a noticeable difference in performance whether you have one or the other.
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Hmm, you were the one talking about benchmarks (and how the Octa smothers the SD600 in them), I only gave you a link to one (that should be among the best benchmarks for GPU) that contradicts what you said.
If you want links to other benchmarks showing the same type of results between the 2 SOC, it's not hard to find either, it's not like this is the only benchmark giving these results.
Also, theoretical performance (based on blue prints, and the architecture of the SOCs) is one thing, but it does not always translate to practical performance.
To tell you the truth, I was pretty sure I'd import the i9500, but I'm changing my mind more and more based on what I'm reading.
I'm still not sure right now though
But in real life use and gaming, it shouldn't really make a noticeable difference in performance whether you have one or the other.
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Fair enough. I suppose I did contradict myself, didn't I
By the way I'm getting the i9505 as well.
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Fair enough. I suppose I did contradict myself, didn't I
By the way I'm getting the i9505 as well.
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Yeah, but truth is that it's still hard to tell which version is better, and it probably won't even make much difference in usage
Battery usage is still unknown too, even though on paper, the Exynos sounds good, it really depends on what you do, and how well the dual processor architecture manages that.
I want a Exynos version of note 4, snapdragon 805 was kind of a disappointment.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unlocked-NE...1446740372?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item1c46ca3194
This is on eBay right now, should I get it?
Questions:
1, Will there be a English option?
2, Will the phone be any different from the USA version?
3, If Android L come out, can I update it directly from the phone, or I have to do it manually?
4, Would I get 4g on Simple Mobile?(Simple Mobile is basically like T-mobile, they use T-mobile tower)
5, Do you recommend buying a Korean version?
Why is snapdragon disappointing?
Stigga said:
Why is snapdragon disappointing?
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Was hoping for a 808 or 810.
Snapdragon 805 is disappointing? Really? Exynos is better?
Zhoene said:
Snapdragon 805 is disappointing? Really? Exynos is better?
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Well, is octa-core and 64 bit.
Saw a benchmark test between those two, exynos score a little higher.
If you were me, and price don't better.
Would you get snapdragon or exynos?
Kenny243 said:
Well, is octa-core and 64 bit.
Saw a benchmark test between those two, exynos score a little higher.
If you were me, and price don't better.
Would you get snapdragon or exynos?
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It's really never octal-core or 64bit. It mostly runs in quad core "mode" and is never in 64bit. Yes, it's capable of 64bit, but think of it like installing the 32bit version of windows on a 64bit machine. It's useless. Benchmarks don't matter. The exynos version is optimized for benchmarks, so it scores high in them, but is actually slower in real world use. Get the snapdragon.
From the benchmarks I saw, some of the exynos tests come up slower than Note3, some are faster than snapdragon note4, but IMO the biggest advantage could be 64 bit mode on Exynos. On the other hand who knows how is this 64bit Android going to work and when? Also make sure that radio is compatible with frequncies used in your area, what good is the phone if you get stuck on edge or have trouble making calls because half of the frequencies are missing? When I bought galaxy s3 couple years ago, it supposed to have LTE, but later it came out it didn't, there might be some similar surprises with Note 4 in the future as well.
Humm
Do you know the most reliable website to buy a unlocked Galaxy Note 4?
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Was hoping for a 808 or 810.
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Such dumb replies. The S805 is great already.
Kitkat is not 64bit capable so its not using this feature now. Android L will be.
aooga said:
It's really never octal-core or 64bit. It mostly runs in quad core "mode" and is never in 64bit. Yes, it's capable of 64bit, but think of it like installing the 32bit version of windows on a 64bit machine. It's useless. Benchmarks don't matter. The exynos version is optimized for benchmarks, so it scores high in them, but is actually slower in real world use. Get the snapdragon.
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Exynos version optimized for benchmarks ??? XDD
Lodix said:
Exynos version optimized for benchmarks ??? XDD
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Yes..it is. Notice how the benchmarks are always insanely high but the performance is slightly slower?
aooga said:
Yes..it is. Notice how the benchmarks are always insanely high but the performance is slightly slower?
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First of all, You shouldn't tell opinions as True Statements...
Have you ever had any phone to compare by yourself ???
Samsung sttoped "cheating" in benchmarks since the Note 3, and it was mostly done in the QUALCOMM VERSION.
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First of all, You shouldn't tell opinions as True Statements...
Have you ever had any phone to compare by yourself ???
Samsung sttoped "cheating" in benchmarks since the Note 3, and it was mostly done in the QUALCOMM VERSION.
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I never said they cheated anything. Its just optimized for benchmarks so people think its faster than it is (runs all 8 cores at one, but never does that in real use). I have used it BTW. I have a galaxy tab with an exynos processor that lags a lot pushing a 1440p display...same as the note 4. I tried a snapdragon one out in best buy and it didn't lag at all.
It is a true statement. That's like saying a Ferrari being faster than a civic is an opinion.
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I never said they cheated anything. Its just optimized for benchmarks so people think its faster than it is (runs all 8 cores at one, but never does that in real use). I have used it BTW. I have a galaxy tab with an exynos processor that lags a lot pushing a 1440p display...same as the note 4. I tried a snapdragon one out in best buy and it didn't lag at all.
It is a true statement. That's like saying a Ferrari being faster than a civic is an opinion.
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It is not, Samsung doesn't change at all their CPU from the "stock" ARM desings. So it is a pure Cortex AX. They don't this kind of things, Anandtech searched for that.
The Exynos 5420 has a weaker GPU compared to Snapdragon 800mso it normal. But don't say that the Note 4 lags as well becausw your tablet lags...
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It is not, Samsung doesn't change at all their CPU from the "stock" ARM desings. So it is a pure Cortex AX. They don't this kind of things, Anandtech searched for that.
The Exynos 5420 has a weaker GPU compared to Snapdragon 800mso it normal. But don't say that the Note 4 lags as well becausw your tablet lags...
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I said it would be slower, not lag. This is based on 3 generations of Samsung processors before. If they finally changed it to actually be competitive, good for them.
All of my other points are fully valid though.
aooga said:
I said it would be slower, not lag. This is based on 3 generations of Samsung processors before. If they finally changed it to actually be competitive, good for them.
All of my other points are fully valid though.
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Well I had good speriences with Exynos SOCs.
And my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 with a Snapdragon 800 lags either.
Only other difference seems to be a slight bump in clockspeed from 2.3GHz to 2.5GHz. I wonder what pricing will look like on these models?
Sure wish ASUS would just release 5.1.1 already but perhaps they're busy releasing all these Zenfone 2 models...
rlaw said:
Only other difference seems to be a slight bump in clockspeed from 2.3GHz to 2.5GHz. I wonder what pricing will look like on these models?
Sure wish ASUS would just release 5.1.1 already but perhaps they're busy releasing all these Zenfone 2 models...
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I can't wait to feel how hot that CPU is going to get . Probably 50 USD more or 100 USD more it is has other new stuff too.
ASUS Zenfone 2 Deluxe and ASUS Zenfone 2 are same.
No changes.
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_deluxe_ze551ml-7475.php
mr_gourav2000 said:
ASUS Zenfone 2 Deluxe and ASUS Zenfone 2 are same.
No changes.
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_deluxe_ze551ml-7475.php
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Here's the link to the announcement this morning:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...n-with-256gb-internal-storage-unveiled-730942
Not sure if 2.5Mhz is real. According to Intel's website, Z3580 have max frequency of 2.33Ghz only
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ycavan said:
Here's the link to the announcement this morning:
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Its also 2.3 ghz
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Its also 2.3 ghz
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Yes.. the Deluxe is 2.3 ghz. You've pointed that out already.
The Deluxe Special Edition... that's what was announced this morning. & if it IS a misprint @ 2.3 ghz? who cares? It's not like we're going to notice an extra 200mhz.
ycavan said:
Yes.. the Deluxe is 2.3 ghz. You've pointed that out already.
The Deluxe Special Edition... that's what was announced this morning. & if it IS a misprint @ 2.3 ghz? who cares? It's not like we're going to notice an extra 200mhz.
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Btw 2.5 ghz is really noticeable.
Umm really Asus lol. 5.1.1 would be great instead of making 30 version of the same phone.....
Guess that what cm12 is for right
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Btw 2.5 ghz is really noticeable.
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sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
ycavan said:
sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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Oh really? I don't think so.
It's exactly the same except for storage. While it would be amazing to have 256gb of internal storage, I don't think the premium would be worth it. 64 is enough for me(for apps) with media on my external card
mr_gourav2000 said:
Oh really? I don't think so.
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Clock speeds don't mean a whole lot in modern processors.
In all reality if you have the 2.3ghz model then this is NOT worth it period IMHO. 2.3ghz to 2.5ghz you will not be able to tell a difference in real world use. The 256 internal storage is amazing just to have. But 64gb is way more than enough for me and majority of users.
goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
cangcan said:
goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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Lol you can't be serious........
ycavan said:
sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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so.... 8.7% more faster battery drain?
ASUS pls, fix your os problem first :crying:
cangcan said:
goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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according to spec, it will be the same Z00A. So, it should share the same ROM with existing ZE551ML.
GGL-Daz said:
Clock speeds don't mean a whole lot in modern processors.
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that is utterly wrong, over the years all the performance gains you get from intel are from stock clock speed bumps rather than IPC increase. a 200mhz increase in turbo clocks on all four cores can make a noticeable difference, that is if they can be maintained long enough, otherwise in most short time race to sleep scenarios the difference is hard to see. in fact the only changes you see from SD800 to SD805 in cpu are that qualcomm keeps overclocking their CPUs, but the problem is that qualcomm has more conservative throttling mechanisms whereas intel handles it more leniently. the point is if they kept the same TDP as 2.3ghz one with the new one then it won't make any significant change, if they raise the TDP or allow for longer turbo time then that 2.5ghz will make a noticeable change in many daily usage cases such as gaming and HEVC decoding.
in terms of app opening speed and booting time though, that depends on what kind of NAND asus uses. the nand they use so far in our ZE551ML are pretty crappy and around average at best, if they kept using those lower grade NAND then I see no point in this new variant at all
I am curious to know which is faster? Our LG g2 or those Xiaomi redmi's phones based on processor power only? Any idea?
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https://www.quora.com/Which-is-better-a-SD-801-vs-a-650-652-or-a-625
and a quote from reddit that sums it all:
"In the real world, 625 may have better multi-tasking performance (8 cores vs 4 cores on the 801). 801 has better single core performance, but not by much.
625 is also much newer and has a different configuration, uses a better gpu (adreno 510 vs adreno 330) so has native 4k playback, among other refinements you'd expect from a SoC that's 2 years newer."
I love this question, I've always looked at the SD 625 because it has more or less the same performance(sd625 has better advantage in multitasking ofcourse due to the more cores). The gpu is not that much better its more or less the same but it does support Vulkan API by the way if you're interested in that.
Not much games that uses Vulkan currently , the only one I know that uses it is VainGlory.
Offtopic: are you referring to the Xiaomi Mi A1?
funtikar said:
Offtopic: are you referring to the Xiaomi Mi A1?
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Yes, I am. Very tempted to buy it , but I will wait for the reviews first.
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albsat said:
Yes, I am. Very tempted to buy it , but I will wait for the reviews first.
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same here.. i've never felt so attracted to xiaomi phone lol.
The camera, pure android and slim design are what really hit me.
but the price is barely recommendable though, I could get a Mi5 or Mi6 by increasing my budget
funtikar said:
same here.. i've never felt so attracted to xiaomi phone lol.
The camera, pure android and slim design are what really hit me.
but the price is barely recommendable though, I could get a Mi5 or Mi6 by increasing my budget
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The price will get down with time and coupons. I just don't want to believe just the hype of pure Android OS. Let's wait the reviews, I would say.
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albsat said:
The price will get down with time and coupons.
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I agree
I just don't want to believe just the hype of pure Android OS. Let's wait the reviews, I would say.
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well if you're thinking of the negative like bloatware and stuff, the least we can expect is it makes it easy for the community ROM developer to make ROMS for it.
Did you know that the Mi A1 is featured on Google's Android One main page? I think that improve their credibility in getting pure Android on that phone