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Wifi Settings?

Hey guys,
been using my X10 for a while now (2 weeks) and the battery life is one thing that tilts me a lot... I tried all the tas killer, adv task killer, task panel lite etc, and none really worked
also, juice defender just somehow seems to screw up my wifi settings. I use no 3g/ data at all so i just keep that disabled.
However from reading this forum I downloaded an app called Spare Parts. It is really good in that it tells me what is using my battery in a detailed manner. so it tells me that my battery is being drained from
Running 12%
Wifi running 12%
wifi on 99.9%!!!
Now i made sure of all my wifi settings, I have it turned to "Sleep when screen turns off" in the android menu, and "android default" under spare parts.
I uninstalled juice defender bc i found that it was just screwing up my settings, it kept changing the "Sleep when screen turns off" to "Never" which resulted in more battery drain
I dont know why my wifi is running 99.9% but i gotta think that is killing my battery.. The really annoying thing is if I goto the battery use under normal android settings and it is telling me wifi only used up 6% of my battery since last charge?
sorry for the mega long first post but any help is really appreciated

bumppppp! Im sure this must be a problem for other people too who don't know their wifi is running 100%?

Not sure what advice i can offer you mate.
Although WIFI is definately a large drain on the battery i found the source of my battery problems were down to having the "Location source and & Data use settings" enabled.
Put simply it will try to use either your wifi or data connection to determine your current location. If this is left running in the background it will seriously affect your battery.
Its better to only enable them when required.

Hi - The answer is in your question...
Wifi running 12%
wifi on 99.9%!!!
This means that your wifi is switched on for 99.9% of the time which you phone has been on, but it has only been "active" or "not sleeping" for 12% of the time.. This is fine..
I removed Ulitmate juice a while ago, but reinstalled only the Juicedefender element last week and it's definitely making a difference to my battery life - especially when I'm out and about..
Have a good look through the power usage thread - there's loads of stuff the phone does in the background that you can switch off to save juice.

Yea definately know what you mean, the only thing thats bugging me is that i am 100% sure my wifi settings were... sleep when screen turns off... so for wifi to be on 99.9%??? Shouldnt that setting ensure the widi is not on when the screen is off?

Battery tip for people with bad battery life.

I've had bad battery life since I bought this phone on release day. I would get no more than 1.5-2 hours screen on time. The battery wouldn't last more than 12 hours. I've been messing around with it since then but still had bad battery life up until the last few days. Now I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time and I'm a moderate user.
Here is what I did:
1. Go to Google maps and then go to settings and untick anything that is ticked then click on "location reporting" and set it to do not update your location.
2. Go into the phone settings>location services and untick everything. When you want to use maps just turn on gps.
3. Get the app "battery calibration". First charge your phone to 100% and keep the charger plugged in and then go to the app and Press calibrate. Then use your phone till the battery is dead (turns off) and plug the charger in and let it charge to 100% while it is off.
Turn it on and then use it till the battery is dead again and charge while off to 100%.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you but it has for me.

You know my problem is I did that and when on Jb lib battery drain like crazy.Back on ICS no problem with battery can you explain that why on ICS calibration is not needed ???
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goose2515 said:
You know my problem is I did that and when on Jb lib battery drain like crazy.Back on ICS no problem with battery can you explain that why on ICS calibration is not needed ???
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O end yes maps drain battery I turn this off
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uf21 said:
Up until now I had bad battery life since I bought this phone on release day. I would get no more than 1.5-2 screen on time. The battery wouldn't last more than 12 hours. I've been messing around with it since then but still had bad battery life up until the last few days. Now I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time and I'm a moderate user.
Here is what I did:
1. Go to Google maps and then go to settings and untick anything that is ticked then click on "location reporting" and set it to do not update your location.
2. Go into the phone settings>location services and untick everything. When you want to use maps just turn on gps.
3. Get the app "battery calibration". First charge your phone to 100% and keep the charger plugged in and then go to the app and Press calibrate. Then use your phone till the battery is dead (turns off) and plug the charger in and let it charge to 100% while it off.
Turn it on and then use it till the battery is dead again and charge while off to 100%.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you but it has for me.
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First two items I agree on. GPS uses up a lot of battery, though from personal experience, it didn't dent my battery too much anyway as long as I don't have running apps using it.
But the last point. I believe those battery calibrations are actually useless. There was some article from the android team describing why.

The 2nd and 3rd are completely useless.
People who use gps know that even if you tick those location services, it only gets enabled when an app requires gps. Thua, battery is only lost if you use loads of navigation services. Unchecking those won't do any good.
Battery Caliberation is just what you can call the perfect reading that is shown on your status bar. Ultimately, whether you caliberate or not, battery gets charged upto 100% only. It won't surely exceed that.
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uf21 said:
I've had bad battery life since I bought this phone on release day. I would get no more than 1.5-2 hours screen on time. The battery wouldn't last more than 12 hours. I've been messing around with it since then but still had bad battery life up until the last few days. Now I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time and I'm a moderate user.
Here is what I did:
1. Go to Google maps and then go to settings and untick anything that is ticked then click on "location reporting" and set it to do not update your location.
2. Go into the phone settings>location services and untick everything. When you want to use maps just turn on gps.
3. Get the app "battery calibration". First charge your phone to 100% and keep the charger plugged in and then go to the app and Press calibrate. Then use your phone till the battery is dead (turns off) and plug the charger in and let it charge to 100% while it is off.
Turn it on and then use it till the battery is dead again and charge while off to 100%.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you but it has for me.
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A better idea:
Disable auto sync for accounts
Disable GPS (and wifi gps)
Disable auto backup of Gmail account
Set wifi sleep policy to “when plugged in”
Disable motion
Check your apps settings and disable useless background sync​

Setup a static IP via your router.

I had issues with Chrome Sync - when enabled it prevented phone from going into deep sleep. So if you use Chrome and struggle with battery life this is one more thing to look at ...

Official Facebook app uses a lot of power and waking device for many times. Use browser for facebook or alternatives...You will see the diference !

Darkside Agent said:
A better idea:
Disable auto sync for accounts
Disable GPS (and wifi gps)
Disable auto backup of Gmail account
Set wifi sleep policy to “when plugged in”
Disable motion
Check your apps settings and disable useless background sync​
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good list id like to add:
freeze unused apps/battery hogs if used sparringly (with titanium backup)
set wifi to always on, switch off manually when not in use
firewall apps that dont require internet

I agree on the Facebook app. I will charge my phone to full, reboot it, and then let it sit overnight without using any apps and it will be one of my top processes in better battery stats. I really like using facebook simply for the picture and phone number syncing. I guess I could always go back to haxsync. On my Galaxy Nexus since I can't use facebook app to sync I just use mobile page and it definitely is better on battery life.
I've been trying to improve my battery life on 4.1.1 LIB as if I leave it on Wifi overnight with no use after reboot and full charge I'll see Deep Sleep at maybe 90% if I'm lucky. I'm losing almost a full hour of sleep time over the course of 7-8 hours. I think Facebook is part of it, also it seems to be worse when I use the S3's built in alarms.

Go into Settings -> Location and disable everything? You mean that we should disable:
1) Use wireless networks (location determined by wi-fi and/or mobile networks). I really don't see how this saves battery.
2) Use GPS satellites. This uses up battery ONLY when an app requires GPS (and when the icon shows).
3) Use sensor aiding. See above.
4) Location and Google Search. (only used to get your location when you're connected to GPS and/or wifi/mobile network).
I really don't see how this saves battery.
On a side note, one might want to freeze unwanted apps, not use too many live wallpapers, sync only when needed, and get rid of unwanted widgets. THAT might help.

Better tip. Use your phone with everything turned on as it was designed like I do and get 4 hours + screen on time, and 1 to 2 days useage depending on how much it's used.. simples...

I really don't see the point of buying a phone like this and turning everything off!
Google now won't work properly with all the location stuff switched off.
I always get through the day with everything turned on, in use power saving at work and switch off wifi that's it.
If the battery runs down have a back up waiting, galaxy s3 owners are always going on about it being good that our phone has a removable battery and iphone doesn't but there are still many people not happy that their battery runs down quick!
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The best thing I ever spent on for this phone was the official samsung battery kit. At least I don't have to worry about the battery at all and I can leave all the features on.
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The best app to see exactly what's happening on the phone is "Better Battery Stats".
I can have access to all partial wavelocks and see exactly what app is sucking my battery like a vampire on a virgin.
Companies creates amazing devices but forgot to create the amazing batteries that go with them!

DeadSOL said:
Go into Settings -> Location and disable everything? You mean that we should disable:
1) Use wireless networks (location determined by wi-fi and/or mobile networks). I really don't see how this saves battery.
2) Use GPS satellites. This uses up battery ONLY when an app requires GPS (and when the icon shows).
3) Use sensor aiding. See above.
4) Location and Google Search. (only used to get your location when you're connected to GPS and/or wifi/mobile network).
I really don't see how this saves battery.
On a side note, one might want to freeze unwanted apps, not use too many live wallpapers, sync only when needed, and get rid of unwanted widgets. THAT might help.
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Yes that's true but this is not for everyone. I don't use Google now and why should I use wireless networks when there is a built in GPS.

Thank you OP. That was the problem with my phone. Now its awake when the screen is on. Before that, it was awake every 5 minutes. !!!!

And after you've turned every single feature off, you can stand back and admire your Nokia 3310

boundy said:
And after you've turned every single feature off, you can stand back and admire your Nokia 3310
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You're only turning of location services. Why does the phone need to know where you are 24/7? Just turn it on when you need to use maps or location. Not hard.
My car was designed to be driven, does that mean it should be left on while I'm not using it? Think about that.

terranoid said:
Thank you OP. That was the problem with my phone. Now its awake when the screen is on. Before that, it was awake every 5 minutes. !!!!
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Glad I could help.

[Q] Phone doesn't go into deep sleep + wifi always stays on

This is very annoying, I have spent the whole morning trying to find a solution for this issue. The battery runs out already fast as it is, and now the phone is not
Battery drained about 20% at night by itself. Currently draining about 1-2% per 5 minutes when idle. What do I do? I have looked on various different threads for a solution, but did not find anything to fix this issue.
How do I fix this?
Thanks, in advance.

Also some details.
I had my phone at home, I prefer the phone to use WiFi networks when syncing and updating, but to have phone turn them automatically off when not using them, that is when the phone is locked and not syncing and updating anything. But apparently it doesn't do that, it has WiFi on at all times for some reason. And I don't know if its related to WiFi, it doesn't appear to go to "deep sleep"

Yukicore said:
This is very annoying, I have spent the whole morning trying to find a solution for this issue. The battery runs out already fast as it is, and now the phone is not
Battery drained about 20% at night by itself. Currently draining about 1-2% per 5 minutes when idle. What do I do? I have looked on various different threads for a solution, but did not find anything to fix this issue.
How do I fix this?
Thanks, in advance.
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Yukicore said:
Also some details.
I had my phone at home, I prefer the phone to use WiFi networks when syncing and updating, but to have phone turn them automatically off when not using them, that is when the phone is locked and not syncing and updating anything. But apparently it doesn't do that, it has WiFi on at all times for some reason. And I don't know if its related to WiFi, it doesn't appear to go to "deep sleep"
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For me, it was the last Google Maps update. Try to disable "Reporting Location" and "Location History" under Location settings on Google Settings app(the one with the green icon). I had around 25% drain over night and half of it came from this.
Try it and see if this can help you.
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Like above say, disable location, especially if you keep wifi on.
Leaving wifi on while sleeping itself is not good for our health anyway, so if you have data switch to 2G, its at least enough to keep internet messages coming while saving battery. And if its wifi wise, apply pm.sleep_mode=1 in your build.prop. AND, scroll up a little, wifi_supplicant_can_interval(something like that, from its SHOULD BE 15 change to 300-600).
Disable unused apps and use greenify.

Galaxo60 said:
For me, it was the last Google Maps update. Try to disable "Reporting Location" and "Location History" under Location settings on Google Settings app(the one with the green icon). I had around 25% drain over night and half of it came from this.
Try it and see if this can help you.
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Thank you for the answer, but sadly it didn't seem to do it. My WiFi is still always on, even though I have it set to turn off when phone is sleeping at WiFi advanced settings.
Although the phone entered deep sleep mode when I manually turned WiFi off, but I'm not sure if that was the case.
KiD3991 said:
Like above say, disable location, especially if you keep wifi on.
Leaving wifi on while sleeping itself is not good for our health anyway, so if you have data switch to 2G, its at least enough to keep internet messages coming while saving battery. And if its wifi wise, apply pm.sleep_mode=1 in your build.prop. AND, scroll up a little, wifi_supplicant_can_interval(something like that, from its SHOULD BE 15 change to 300-600).
Disable unused apps and use greenify.
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I understand, but I forgot to do so, I actually have an app that turns on air plane mode at certain time. But that still doesn't fix the issue that the phone doesn't enter sleep mode with WiFi on and doesn't turn it off, even though it's set to do so.
Also I did not quite understand what you were telling me there, as I got the phone last week and it's my first android phone. The app you suggested could cut it, but that means that whenever there will be an auto check for news sequence I will be downloading it with mobile data? Is there an app that could cause this?

I was about to update on this, but I just got notification about 4.3 update. :laugh:
I will update this post, if this problem still exists.
UPDATE : Of course, still the problem persists, Phone goes to sleep when I have Wi-Fi turned off. But when on, even though I have it set to turn off during sleep mode, it keeps the phone wake and drains the battery.

Restart your router?
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Ulver said:
Restart your router?
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How is it related to my router exactly? My iPod disconnects from Wi-Fi no problem.
Thank you for trying though.

I had left my phone this night with Wi-Fi off, but mobile data and 3G was on, Lost 7% in 7Hours from 47%. Does this seem okay, or a little bit too much? By the time I answered 2 emails and made 1 short phonecall and checked on battery logs from 2 different apps, and changed my wallpaper, battery has dropped to 33%. I'm not proud.

The answer to your problem is JuiceDefender Ultimate, available from Play Store.

Yukicore said:
I had left my phone this night with Wi-Fi off, but mobile data and 3G was on, Lost 7% in 7Hours from 47%. Does this seem okay, or a little bit too much? By the time I answered 2 emails and made 1 short phonecall and checked on battery logs from 2 different apps, and changed my wallpaper, battery has dropped to 33%. I'm not proud.
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Unfortunately this is normal, the battery life is not the best feature of nexus 4. How many screen on time hours do you get averagely?

This fixed the Wifi always on issue for me.
Turn WiFi on: Settings, WiFi, Menu (3 dots upper right hand corner), advanced, uncheck scanning always on.
Hope this helps.

How do you deal with NlpCollectorWakeLock?

Battery life on this phone is amazing under use, but only average on standby, which is the only negative thing I could say about G2. I routinely lose 2%-3% battery over night, it was the same on JB and now on KK.
I've been checking the wake locks and it is our old friend Google Services and its NlpCollectorWakeLock that keeps the phone awake about 10 minutes a day, since Google likes checking our location 1000 times a day. Turning location off doesn't help at all.
What are your experiences and how have you been dealing with this on G2 specifically? Don't just say install Wakelock Terminator, if you used it also share your experiences with it. Does Greenifying make a difference and what did you hibernate? Did you have any issues afterwards with apps that use location?
And most importantly, did it have any effect on battery life in standby?

Can't remember whether Knock On/Off feature has anything to do with the NCWL but just disable it and see what happens.
Also, down 2-3% overnite seems normal to me.

votinh said:
Also, down 2-3% overnite seems normal to me.
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Normal but we had 0% even on ICS 4.2.2, and on 4.1.2 my previous phones did managed to spend 0% overnight
laserburn said:
Turning location off doesn't help at all.
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Yeah, constantly running Location Services bugs me off too.
Maybe you could find solution in that http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/nlpwakelock-nlpcollectorwakelock-t2551846 topic, I didn't read it

Location services disable location reporting and history ... That helps decrease it (only do this if you don't use Google now location based features)... Also you can set location to device only if you want ... And greenify the Google maps app ...

... did you actually just complain about a 3% battery drain in 6-7 hours of idling or whatever you define 'night' as?...
Getting back to the topic, one of the bigger things you could do to reduce NlpCollectorWakeLock is disable Google Now. I personally don't find it very useful in my country so I never keep it on. Thus, I get that 3% battery drain overnight with WiFi on.

Turn off wifi assist in location services just set it to device only and it will be gone
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iamtha1 said:
Turn off wifi assist in location services just set it to device only and it will be gone
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Just turn off "Google Now", you'll be amazed how long your battery will last.....
Cheers

Or install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
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I think I discovered a fix to some hard to track wakelocks by the android services.
What I did:
-settings > share & connect > menu button > dlna feature > menu button > settings > uncheck share options.
Let me know! First post!

WiFi killing battery?

Lately my battery just drops every 5 minutes. The phone is new. So I decided to try something. I turned my wife off last night and my battery only dropped one percent. So it seems wifi is using resources. Is there anything I can do to solve this? I am using a stock untouched phone.
P. S how come the Sub-Forum section is so cluttered and not alphabetical order? Finding the phones correct forum is a real pita.

I suggest to download Wifi traffic monitor app like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vn.wada.trafmeter or anything similar, to see what app is using wifi the most. You also can save battery by set wifi to never scan and never wake when screen is off. This will prevent any apps from using wifi while your screen is turnoff.

buhohitr said:
I suggest to download Wifi traffic monitor app like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vn.wada.trafmeter or anything similar, to see what app is using wifi the most. You also can save battery by set wifi to never scan and never wake when screen is off. This will prevent any apps from using wifi while your screen is turnoff.
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OK so my top app is chrome/Google. That doesn't make sense.... Because the phone drains fast when screen is off and wifi is on. I don't have unlimited data so I always keep that one off.

SoCalArm said:
OK so my top app is chrome/Google. That doesn't make sense.... Because the phone drains fast when screen is off and wifi is on. I don't have unlimited data so I always keep that one off.
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You need to set wifi "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to NEVER and "Always allow scanning" unchecked.

buhohitr said:
You need to set wifi "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to NEVER and "Always allow scanning" unchecked.
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Those are set. Have been before making this thread. :/ still getting poor battery life,. Maybe I should replace battery, reinstall OS