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Root without SU app?

I just rooted using towel root. Planning on staying stock just needed to make one modification. Everything is perfect including knox and flash counter. Is it okay to keep the phone rooted without having the SU app installed?
If I install supersu will it trip my flash counter? If I use it to unroot will it trip?
Thanks
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Some questions are asked over and over. Which is why we can tell that you didn't do a search or take ten minutes to read a few threads - you couldn't have avoided finding the answers if you had. You'd also have gotten a quicker answer if you had tried searching.
Super SU won't increment Knox by itself. The flash counter per se can be reset. It's a widely respected and robust app and you didn't give any specific reason why you wouldn't want to use it. If you remove Super SU without manually adding more cumbersome alternatives, you won't be rooted anymore. If it is your intention to remove root, then go ahead. If you want to remain rooted, then you should do some reading as it would seem that you don't understand what Super SU does.
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fffft said:
Some questions are asked over and over. Which is why we can tell that you didn't do a search or take ten minutes to read a few threads - you couldn't have avoided finding the answers if you had. You'd also have gotten a quicker answer if you had tried searching.
Super SU won't increment Knox by itself. The flash counter per se can be reset. It's a widely respected and robust app and you didn't give any specific reason why you wouldn't want to use it. If you remove Super SU without manually adding more cumbersome alternatives, you won't be rooted anymore. If it is your intention to remove root, then go ahead. If you want to remain rooted, then you should do some reading as it would seem that you don't understand what Super SU does.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I actually Googled and read through the few rooting threads I found but couldn't find the answer for this specific question. Towelroot rooted the phone and supersu was not installed. I don't want to increase flash counter or have custom status as I want to continue to receive OTA updates. I only rooted to access a sql dB which I needed to modify.
I was never under the impression that SU will trip knox, I was wondering if it would trip my flash counter. Also, my question was based more on security. If I don't have supersu to allow root access I would assume any app can get it and would that be a security issue?
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In might be a theoretical advantage to not be rooted. But you loose a lot of functionality for that security "gain". Pragmatically though there have been plenty of malware exploits that can root your device as part of their incursion. So it's hard to believe that you are gaining much security by avoiding root on your handset.
Your device will never be completely secure. Most of your risk is removed if you make a best effort to only use apps from legitimate sources and apply security updates. If you are keen you can also install a antimalware app like lookout or configure iptables.
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fffft said:
In might be a theoretical advantage to not be rooted. But you loose a lot of functionality for that security "gain". Pragmatically though there have been plenty of malware exploits that can root your device as part of their incursion. So it's hard to believe that you are gaining much security by avoiding root on your handset.
Your device will never be completely secure. Most of your risk is removed if you make a best effort to only use apps from legitimate sources and apply security updates. If you are keen you can also install a antimalware app like lookout or configure iptables.
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Agree 100%. Hence my concern about being rooted currently and not having SuperSU installed to control what apps can gain and use root access. Installation of SuperSU was a byproduct of every other root method I've used and thus I was concerned about having rooted with towelroot and not having SuperSU installed.
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tawheed12 said:
Agree 100%. Hence my concern about being rooted currently and not having SuperSU installed to control what apps can gain and use root access. Installation of SuperSU was a byproduct of every other root method I've used and thus I was concerned about having rooted with towelroot and not having SuperSU installed.
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If you choose to root your phone you should forget about OTA`s imo as this causes only issues in most cases and the loss of root. Disable/uninstall or freeze all system apps regarding OTA`s and flash an updated rom with Mobile Odin Pro and you`ll keep root BTW rooting has so much more advantages like AdAway adblocker, freezing all the unused Samsung apps/widgets, backup and restoring of apps with TB etc etc.

You dont need SuperSU for root. Its on a handler for it. It stops malware accessing root without your notice....

Can't root Blu Studio C 5 + 5 LTE

All I want to do is root this thing, but no matter what I've tried it just doesn't want to work. Has anyone actually managed to root this?

Cant be done.... Yet
KSeto0229 said:
All I want to do is root this thing, but no matter what I've tried it just doesn't want to work. Has anyone actually managed to root this?
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hi, i've try but nothing, i use kingo, frame, tow, and others but nothing.. some user say they have been able to root this by some kind of mistake, they use kingo with no success but then reboot and done, is rooted, it says is not but it is but not with me jeje, i guess we'll have to wait.

Rooting Blu Studio C 5+5 LTE
KSeto0229 said:
All I want to do is root this thing, but no matter what I've tried it just doesn't want to work. Has anyone actually managed to root this?
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I've done it. I used the newest version of Kingroot from the Google Playstore (ver 4.8 at the time of this writing) If I recall correctly I *think* Kingroot may have shown an issue getting root access. However, after rebooting the device the rooting process did work. I was able to verify it by using root checker (basic version). After I had root I replaced Kingroot with SuperSU and once again verified using root checker. Still rooted... Be careful to take one step at a time. If you can reply with specifics and what order you did them in I might be able to help.

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jtpiano said:
I've done it. I used the newest version of Kingroot from the Google Playstore (ver 4.8 at the time of this writing) If I recall correctly I *think* Kingroot may have shown an issue getting root access. However, after rebooting the device the rooting process did work. I was able to verify it by using root checker (basic version). After I had root I replaced Kingroot with SuperSU and once again verified using root checker. Still rooted... Be careful to take one step at a time. If you can reply with specifics and what order you did them in I might be able to help.
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use Kingroot 3.5

Fail to set system rw

http://imgur.com/7mxqR4v
I want to set my system as rw but it fails everyway i do it. I tried Adb Shell but it doesnt work even though no error appears after entering in the code line. Ive tried the google play store app to enable rw for system, but it also does not work. After each of these steps i attempt to move an apk to system/app to check if its working. But it fails everytime. Also, when i attempt to use the rooting too in es explorer, it says my device is not compatible or needs root. Although titanium back up and battery calibrator, both which requires root. Work pefectly fine. I have supersu 2.7.1 on a Galaxy S5 g900t 5.1.1

Have you actually gone through the rooting process? everything I've just read indicates you haven't, and you don't actually tell us you have done so. Some of the functions in the apps you mention don't require access to root, so they may *appear* to work correctly.
I use SD Maid on my rooted phone, but I can also use it on my kids unrooted tablets....The same for root explorer....
The only difference is that some of the processes in these apps don't work on my kids tablets.....
Simply installing SuperSU from the playstore will not give you root access.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

keithross39 said:
Have you actually gone through the rooting process? everything I've just read indicates you haven't, and you don't actually tell us you have done so. Some of the functions in the apps you mention don't require access to root, so they may *appear* to work correctly.
I use SD Maid on my rooted phone, but I can also use it on my kids unrooted tablets....The same for root explorer....
The only difference is that some of the processes in these apps don't work on my kids tablets.....
Simply installing SuperSU from the playstore will not give you root access.
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"Although titanium back up and battery calibrator, both which requires root. Work perfectly fine"
SuperSu 2.7.1 is not compatible with Galaxy S5 5.1.1 Stock

Frankie_Xenon said:
"Although titanium back up and battery calibrator, both which requires root. Work perfectly fine"
SuperSu 2.7.1 is not compatible with Galaxy S5 5.1.1 Stock
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It appears you've answered your own question then.....One of those cases where a little prior research would have prevented the need to start a thread here on XDA.....I guess you live and learn....
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¿KingRoot vs. KingoRoot? [+Large List of Rooting Methods]

Hello XDA!
I'm not sure how many of you are using a Verizon G2 but unfortunately, my LG G2 VS9803AA Lolliopop 5.0.2 has proven quite difficult to get rooted. After trying several different rooting methods, it appears that the only two that seem to work reliably are KingRoot and KingoRoot. Some people have stated that these are both created by the same company, but after some searching it appears that KingoRoot is developed by a company called "FingerPower Technologies" while KingRoot was developed by King Studio. Apparently, not much is known about either company and there are reports of this software collecting questionable data from its users. I don't know much about the inner workings of cell phones or what information would be considered dangerous in the hands of others, but I've read that they possibly collect users' IMEI's as well as a couple of other things I know nothing about. They claim the information they collect is simply used during their sophisticated rooting process (which is what makes it so much more successful than other methods, I guess) and is discarded after use, never being stored anywhere. On the other hand, there are also plenty of raving reviews about these two rooting methods suggesting that they are the best & easiest methods to date. So I'm making this post to ask you guys your opinions on these two different rooting options, the differences between them, and whether or not one should be preferred over another (or not used at all).
Upon installation, there are some noticeable differences. After installing KingRoot, there was no shortcut created for the SuperUser app that it uses (KingoRoot does create a shortcut to its SuperUser app) so I'm not sure if they are using the same one or not. I believe KingRoot uses one called "KingUser" and KingoRoot uses one called "Kingo SuperUser," but I could be mistaken. KingRoot also installs an app that KingoRoot does not, called Purify. It seems like it could be a handy little well-made app that helps manage your battery by intelligently monitoring what apps you frequently use vs which apps are auto-starting and using up memory and shuts them down. It also helps manage pesky notifications. It has a very high score in the app store, so obviously people are enjoying it (or they're well versed in fake reviews, perhaps). It, as well, requires you to enable it under your "Accessibility" settings, however; presumably meaning it needs deeper access to your phone than most apps? It also claims to function optimally when your device is rooted. KingoRoot, on the other hand, did not appear to install anything aside from its SuperUser app on my device. Though, I have recently read that the newest version offers an application similar to KingRoot's Purify app called "Kingo SuperBattery."
Another difference is an app called Super Su-Me. It must be purchased (for around $4) from the app store, but it supposedly removes KingRoot from your phone after a successful root, and replaces it's SuperUser app with SuperSU - that way you no longer have to worry about it performing any malicious data-mining without you knowing (and because SuperSU is a better app in general). For some reason, this app is only offered for KingRoot and does not work on KingoRoot - which makes me think they must use a different rooting process? What do you guys think?
Both of them just use a simple 1-click - wait a couple of minutes - reboot - and done! method. In my opinion, IF they turn out to be offering reputable software with absolutely no malicious intent - then I must admit that these two rooting methods are quite impressive. I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on the matter. Have you used them before? What did you think? Would you trust this software? Have you noticed any other differences between them? If you wouldn't suggest I use either of them, what methods would you recommend I use to my (difficult) G2 VS9803AA? I will list all of the rooting methods I have tried (and failed with) below. Let me know what you guys think!
Methods that have failed to root my LG G2 VS9803AA 5.0.2 device:
LG One Click Root
iRoot (formerly vRoot)
Towel Root
ioRoot
Stump Root
Methods that have succeeded in rooting my LG G2 VS9803AA 5.0.2 device:
KingRoot
KingoRoot
Methods that I have not tried (either because I have not had time, or because I read a report that it would not work on my device):
FramaRoot
Universal Androot
Z4Root
Baidu Root
Easy Rooting Toolkit
CF Auto-Root
SRS Root
Root Master
Root Genius
360 Super Root
Sincerely,
Terri (Psy)
Note: If there are any other reliable rooting methods that I have not listed, please let me know so I can keep the list as comprehensive as possible. Thanks!

Thanks for this info. I have to go back to my G2 for a couple months and could not find a good root method. I ended up using Kingroot but removed kingroot su using this link, https://www.droidmen.com/remove-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu/ampand now have Super SU

Rybean said:
Thanks for this info. I have to go back to my G2 for a couple months and could not find a good root method. I ended up using Kingroot but removed kingroot su using this link, https://www.droidmen.com/remove-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu/ampand now have Super SU
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You're very welcome, Rybean. Thanks for providing that link as well. That appears to be a better method than having to purchase an app from the playstore to replace KingRoot's SU with SuperSU. Has everything worked out well for you so far?

Rybean said:
Thanks for this info. I have to go back to my G2 for a couple months and could not find a good root method. I ended up using Kingroot but removed kingroot su using this link, https://www.droidmen.com/remove-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu/ampand now have Super SU
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After testing the above method to remove KingRoot's superuser and replace it with SuperSU, after a fresh root with KingRoot - I can confirm that it works without issue. So, if any of you decide to utilize the KingRoot rooting method and would like to switch over to SuperSU - please try this method first. If it does not work, then I suggest trying the SuperSU-Me app from the Play Store.

Rybean said:
Thanks for this info. I have to go back to my G2 for a couple months and could not find a good root method. I ended up using Kingroot but removed kingroot su using this link, https://www.droidmen.com/remove-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu/ampand now have Super SU
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That link doesn't seem to work anymore.... Also, any advice on KingoRoot, as far as replacing it with SuperSU goes?

everything about smartphone security is so scary. You get firewall with one click, you get root with one and you still don't know what kind code have them.

Root without PC?

Is this possible in any way? Will it be possible soon? Thanks.

The only way to root without a PC that I know of is an app like King Root. But you don't want King Root. It only works on certain phones and probably not this one because dual partitions make it much more difficult even if you have a computer. But King Root is pretty much malware. It loads adware onto your phone, sends unrestricted data to servers in China and refuses to give root access to any app that King Root considers a threat to any action that King Root wants to perform on your phone. The fact that anyone actually uses the app is unbelievable to me. There may be an auto root app that is less malicious but probably nothing that would work on this phone.

pementosequence said:
Is this possible in any way? Will it be possible soon? Thanks.
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You need an unlocked bootloader.
You need a computer to unlock the bootloader.
You need a computer to flash the images.
There is no way to OEM unlock without a computer.

tech_head said:
You need an unlocked bootloader.
You need a computer to unlock the bootloader.
You need a computer to flash the images.
There is no way to OEM unlock without a computer.
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King Root actually works on some phones where the bootloader can't be unlocked. That was the only reason I tried that garbage app but any benefits from rooting aren't worth the problems caused by the app. If the bootloader is locked but you are rooted you can run apps that require root access like Titanium Backup (as long as King Root doesn't block root access like it does with Adaway) but you can't flash a custom kernel or custom ROM.