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Can you make more than one nandroid backup?

Sorry if this is a newb question...but it comes from a newb.
I have successfully rooted, and flashed a recovery image onto my Sprint Hero....and I have created a nandroid backup of the rooted phone. Just yesterday I went in and deleted all the sprint bloatware. Here's my question:
Can I create another nandroid backup of my phone as it is right now? or will it delete my old nandroid backup? I would like to have the option to reflash to both the first state, and now the newer state. I hope this question is not confusing.
Can anyone help? Can you have multiple nandroid backup images? or do they override the previous one?
Thanks in advance! God bless!
-alex

You can have as many nandroid backups as your storage card has room for. That being said, if you do a nandroid restore, it will restore only the most recent one so if you want to restore to an older one, just move all the newer one to a different folder or something.

I add a "_sprintgolden" at the end or what ever and leave all the numbers in place that way I know whats what and can delete the extra and it will restore that backup

Yep, you can have as many as you want (store'em on your pc),just copy them out of your storage card otherwise it'll get overwritten by the next backup.

right on Iz

thanks guys! you guys are awesome! This stuff is fun! Can't wait for some new, fast Sprint Hero roms to start flashing! I haven't flashed anything yet.
Thanks again for the help! God bless!
-alex

izanagi said:
Yep, you can have as many as you want (store'em on your pc),just copy them out of your storage card otherwise it'll get overwritten by the next backup.
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No...it won't delete any of the backups. You can have as many backups as the card will hold (as an earlier post stated). The Nandroid Restore will only restore the most recent one.
If you want to keep all on your SD card, but restore from another backup, you'll have to drop to a shell on the phone to run Nandroid. That's accomplished by using ADB from the Google Android SDK. If you type nandroid -? on the command prompt, it will give you a list of parameters you can use to restore or backup Android.

Transforming a Nandroid Backup to a flashable zip via clockwork recovery?

I have a friend over on the east coast that isnt following direction as well as one would hope and is a little scared about rooting his phone and getting it to be as good as my X is. I finally got it rooted for him but he is freaking out about using a clean nandroid backup i sent him and dumping it in the correct directory for nandroid backup and restore giving him a clean image of my phone...
I had assumed that this would have been the easiest method but it got me thinking.
Could i rename my nandroid back up folder the ending tree folder that holds the .android_secure.img, cache.img, data.img, nandroid.md5 and system.img ... like clockworkmod/backup/2010-11-25.05.05.13 could i just pop all those files into a .zip named whatever and direct him to clockwork recovery and flash zip from sd card?
Or could someone point me into a direction on how to accomplish that? I think i would like to also do it for my self and upload it to my dropbox account for later access or to share with friends.
I noticed when i opened like the latest rubix rom that it didnt contain any files similar to that so im curious if its possible.
Also one last question, while i have your technicle mind at attention..
Could someone answer me, in Titanium backup it gives you the option to create a update.zip, then it gives you two radio buttons one says titanium backup will be installed as user application and then System application.
I know that the whole create update.zip thing is for flashing it to the rom from recovery. But what is the diffrence bewteen those two options. What is best and what is the diffrence..
Thanks for letting me pick your Brains!

One drawback of giving him your nandroid backup is that it contains YOUR gmail account with your contacts, facebook account (if applicable), among all other sorts of your personal stuff. In my past experience, you can ADD a gmail account to the phone, but you cannot get rid of the primary/original account so he will have both on there. Other than that, it actually does work though (at least it did on the Droid 1).

Wipe your data and make a nandroid before you reboot and sign in. that way your accounts won't be tied to it
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Your friend - with all due respect if he's having that much trouble with something this simple I really don't think he should be screwing around with root access in the first place. If he has that little understanding of administrator-level access, why on earth does he even want root? He won't even know what to do with it.
Not trying to be harsh, just trying to understand.
Flash Nandroid - NO, don't do it! I'm sure it can be done, but not in the way you described.
Titanium Backup - system apps reside in /system/app as opposed to /data/app. The only real difference is that system apps will still be there after you do a factory reset.

If your going to let your friend flash a nandroid, then you need to remove your gmail and social applications. If you wipe data as mentioned above you'll lose all non-system apps...basically everything you've installed and set up, which is most likely what you're trying to give him. The only way I can think to make this work is to first create a backup for your use, then remove everything that requires you to log in with adb, then replace all of the apps you removed (extract the rom your running and look in system/app for them - data/app apps can be installed from the market). Reboot the phone to verify that all of your accounts are gone, create the new backup and send it to him. Then flash the backup you made for your use.
The easiest way to give him "your set up" would probably be to make a full backup with titanium (not an update.zip). Backup all user apps and system data. Go into the titanium folder on your sd card and delete all files except the .apk files that have anything to do with gmail or social apps. Have him flash the same rom, copy your titanium file to his sd card, and restore all apps and system data to his phone.
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[App idea] Restore Titanium backups by update.zip

i have a great idea for an app to scan your titanium backup folder, and create an update.zip to restore all apps and data after a rom flash.
i have all the details worked out!
i know how to convert the tibu backups to useable restoreable data!
though its not hard.
this could easily be done through a script on pc or possibly through an app.
but i am just not a programmer, in either regard.
need experience with:
creating cwm 2 and 3 flashable zips (edify and scriptify)
possibly other scripting for editing install directory
unpacking tar zip and gz files
creating UI would be nice as well for whichever platform it ends up on pc or app
PM me for more details.
this would be a great tool!

As far as I know, each Titanium backup has 3 files - one bzip2 for the APK, one for the data, and a "properties" file, which containt the market link, app install location, backup date etc...
I think it is possible to write an extention to ClockworkMod/Amon-Ra for restoring Titanium backups. Don't count on me to do it, I don't have any experience with the Linux kernel/Android custom recoveries.
As for a desktop/dalvik application, it should be very simple to pack the backup into a flashable .zip, I'll try to do such an app soon.

Nvm ignore me...
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May this help? I'd really like such an app!
http://www.apps-builder.com/en/home

The paid version of the app will do this for you. Also let's you decide whether the. Zip is signed or not. Hope this helps.
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i have the paid version and that zip file that it creates only reinstalls titanium backup not all your apps.
so no it doesnt help. i already have the paid version, and understand the features in full.

Thats what my nvm ignore me was about... i thought that update.zip did the apps as well.
Anyway this would be awesome for people who flash a lot of roms
TRusselo said:
i have the paid version and that zip file that it creates only reinstalls titanium backup not all your apps.
so no it doesnt help. i already have the paid version, and understand the features in full.
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Kick me while I'm down, I thought the Pro Version did that as well. The file it makes certainly looks big enough. I haven't taken a look at it. But my question is how is the update.zip, which I can't get to install, different from just reinstalling the .apks, which is how I get it working in the first place?

TRusselo said:
i have a great idea for an app to scan your titanium backup folder, and create an update.zip to restore all apps and data after a rom flash.
i have all the details worked out!
i know how to convert the tibu backups to useable restoreable data!
though its not hard.
this could easily be done through a script on pc or possibly through an app.
but i am just not a programmer, in either regard.
need experience with:
creating cwm 2 and 3 flashable zips (edify and scriptify)
possibly other scripting for editing install directory
unpacking tar zip and gz files
creating UI would be nice as well for whichever platform it ends up on pc or app
PM me for more details.
this would be a great tool!
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Good idea but I think you will run into problems if you restore from recovery... I don't think app ID's (and therefore permissions) will be correct and I don't think the apps will re-link to the market (if the id's aren't correct).
Running the fix permissions script after the restore might solve this.
But, other than selective restore, what benefit would this method have over say simply restoring the /data partition part of your nandroid backup?
Nevertheless, if you need help with updater-scripts send me a PM. If my concerns are unfounded then this is a worthwhile idea.

[Q] Can you make a .zip from your ROM?

Hy all, I just wanted to ask if I can actually make a backup or save my actual rom with all my configuration (not the sd card data stuff since I know I can copy paste that in or out ^^) Im actually with a custom rom which is great and I've changed stuff from system/ usr and I would like to be saved as well the real question is..
CAN I MAKE A .ZIP OF EXACTLY WHAT'S IN MY PHONE RIGHT NOW? A PERSONAL ROM WHITH ALL THE CONFIG SAVED?
Thank you for the help ^^ did the MAYUS for the people that don't want to read a lot

Of course you can. It`s called nandroid back-up. You can find it in your custom recovery.

Made a NANDROID backup, flashed ROM, then restored to backup (see inside for problem)

So I made a NANDROID backup (SmoothROM 4.1, 4.1.2), flashed a new ROM (4.2), didn't like it so I restored my backup and now my file structure looks like this:
/f.cl.ly/items/0R0R3n3i0U3c401w3j18/Screen%20Shot%202012-11-27%20at%207.08.06%20PM.png
(remove the first / to see image)
So the folders in 0 were my correct folders before I restored it, and now it looks like this. Does anyone know why this is like this? And how I can fix it?

The 0 is added apparently when making backups (I don't yet know why), but they are all symlinks to the same thing (sd/emulated). There are a couple threads in the QnA about this, but no good comprehensive noob friendly explanations that I have found yet.
I hope someone will chime in with a more complete/correct answer. I would like to know quite a bit more about all this.

It has to do with the user, since multi-user support is now available, say you have two user accounts for your tablet. User 1 would have their own location (/sdcard/0) and User 2 would have their own location (/sdcard/1). That's how I understand it. If incorrect, please someone let me know.
Make sure you are using the latest TWRP or CWM Recovery versions, as I believe that they deal with this issue.

So, when copying files from pc to N7, what directory do I want to paste them in for a one-user tablet?
Can we delete the "0" sub-folders made by backups? How do we clean up the system if it keeps making redundant links? There has to be a point where it is unnecessary/ a mistake.

RMarkwald said:
It has to do with the user, since multi-user support is now available, say you have two user accounts for your tablet. User 1 would have their own location (/sdcard/0) and User 2 would have their own location (/sdcard/1). That's how I understand it. If incorrect, please someone let me know.
Make sure you are using the latest TWRP or CWM Recovery versions, as I believe that they deal with this issue.
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So if I go back to 4.1 since I don't have multi-user support how can I get my default files back to the /0 folder? Because my new system is creating files in my root folder, not the 0 folder which I would rather use. Is there another way besides manually doing it (seemingly the most likely solution).