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Hello, i just wanted bring all of you together to read this thread. Ok so i know since you've been a Moto owner, you've heard or seen at least once insulting comment about your device or the Motorola company. For example, "Anything that Motorola makes sucks" "People only get them because they're cheap" "That phone is crappy". I know that those people are ignorant to other people's liking. I'm tired of hearing the same thing. A lot of people that own super expensive high end- flashy smartphones say things like that about devices like the Moto series. Well that really offends me, just because they might not be the most high-end smartphones or the most expensive smartphones doesn't mean they are worthless. We Moto owners take great pride in our device, we appreciate what we have and we value our smartphones.
If someone offered me a brand new Galaxy S6 and a brand new Moto X and said i could only pick one. I would pick the Moto X hands down without a doubt in my mind. Because I know, We know what matters in a smartphone. What is that? User experience and performance for the price. That's what a review comes down to at the end of the day. A company could make a super spec'd out smartphone but get the same review score as a phone a fraction of its cost. I know if i were to buy a $1000 smartphone it better be great in every aspect and i know if i bought a smartphone for half that price, i'm not expecting it to be perfect but i want to have a good performance. That's exactly what motorola does, it gives you a great performing phone for the price.
For example, the Moto G. It has a low price point but does everything you need it to do. If I want a super powerful gaming machine of a smartphone, I'm not going to buy the Moto G. Then give a bad review for not being able to do what i wanted it to. I'm gonna buy a smartphone with a powerful chipset. At the end of the day we Moto owners stand out. Other people don't seem to understand our taste in smartphones value. Im not saying if you own a super expensive phone you're a bad person or anything. I'm just saying you get what you pay for. All of you Moto owners, good job in picking a smartphone. It doesn't matter if you have a Moto E, a Moto G or a Moto X. We all are equal and unified. #Teammoto
Proof that price doesn't matter
Moto has shunned a lot of former owners myself included l...while I love this phone Moto can still lick my berries.
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It cost me over $1000 to get a MotoMaker Moto X into my country.
Worth every cent!
Beautiful design, Better features and Better performance than all my friends IPhones and Shamsungs.
Agreed !
Most people I talk to in my cell phone repair shop are ignorant to Motorola smartphones. They see my phone and ask what it is. Then they say that it looks nice.
Let those say whatever they want to because they are not aware of the fact that Motorola is the one who created mobile industry, rest are just parts of this industry. Real innovator is Motorola, rest just follow up whatever is left out by Motorola. Even today no other phone can beat a MotoX in terms of 'smartness', rest just feel dumb phones in front of a Moto X.
Motorola users don't need to frequently change their devices because they are more durable, can keep going for few generations of OS versions, come at cheaper price point. A 2-3 years Moto can easily keep going till the next Moto replaces it. You hardly see other brand's phones over 2 years old in anyone's hands. Others just fight needless specs war whereas specs is not everything. so called small battery and poor camera of my MotoX never miss the chance of surprising me by their performance, thats engineering, not just putting useless counts of cores or big spec battery or a high pixel density display which unnecessarily eats up the additional CPU power or battery.
Offcourse there are flaws in the Moto devices also but others are much more flawed. I am currently fighting a consumer court case against poor after sales service provided by Motorola when they took forever to repair a defective MotoE under warranty but that bad incident isn't enough to reduce my love and respect towards the Motorola brand.
Their strong comeback in the market after going completely dead is one more reason to buy their devices because it motivates to wake up and fight in the life, doesn't matter whatever trouble life throws on us. :good:
Let the ignorant people go gaga over whatever they want to, it doesn't changes the reality, does it?
the sad thing is that we are on a new level of "low" on the Dev part of our community.. only a few roms and most of them 5.0.x, only one custom kernel and only for CM based roms.. id love to have a custom kernel on my stock but rooted to be able to play with synapse to tamper with settings to "beast-out" ok gaming and more out of battery for everyday use..
about the talk.. heh I've been experiencing these kind of things at work when they see me use the my phone.. waving my hand over it to check my notifications.. they are so jealous [emoji13]
Motorola is still a great manufacturer, designer, innovater of awesome phones! The X series are the living proofs of this! Many users hate the company now because motorola promised them faster updates and has been really slow and non transparent in terms of updates!
I think motorola has done a great job in terms of updates and phones in general! Leaving the S6 which had 5.0 out of the box, no other manufacturer has provided 5.1 update to any of their phones yet other than the nexus line! People would never understand that 5.0 to 5.0.2 were buggy! They just want an update so they could think less of it and start complaining about the next version of android not being given to them in time! I say such people should buy nexus phones to get timely updates and stop the ranting!
For other people who have a higher price higher spec phones dont know much about android. They just buy a high spec phone thinking its future proof and later understand that there are many more newer innovations at a lesser price. Such people always keep wasting money in those high specs! Motorola doesn't provide high specs. But it provides the perfect balance of specs and working and useful features in their phones which are more useful in daily use and thus it makes the phones a daily driver.
The only problem with their phone is the fragile screen. Its glass and glass tends to break when it takes a hit. But the cost to replace it is too much! In India we need to pay 75% of the purchase cost to get the screen replaced! That's what is keeping people from buying motorola!
I love Stock Android on the Moto X 2014 ?
I miss the development of roms
That is because the source is still stuck back at 5.0.2. It would be great if we could get more up to date source.
I got my s3 when it was a flagship device and had a Samsung phone earlier. The primary reason I got the moto X was the price due to the cyber Monday sale. I saved up anticipating that the nexus 6 would be around the same price as the 5 but it turned out to be very expensive for me.
I had a few apprehensions before getting this device as I had never owned a moto device, but the X has exceeded my expectations! For the price, I don't think any other phone offers similar build quality and specs. Sure a bigger battery or a SD card slot would have been sweet but I feel that this is the perfect blend of stock plus nifty Moto features. I'm so used to active display now that I don't think I can actually use a device without it!
As far as updates are concerned, I'd rather have a fully functional 5.1 build rather than a messed up quickly released and buggy one. The delay has been a little annoying with multiple soak tests but if it results in a near bug free build then I'd rather wait!
All in all very satisfied with the phone.
#teammoto
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Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
Tip #1 : Dont buy it !!!
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Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support. Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at all. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support ? Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to go for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
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Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
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You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
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You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
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While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
Fobos531 said:
While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
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You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
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You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
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Sadly there are no entries for my market (Europe). However, browsing Ebay, I found a listing claiming they have a new OP 3T 64 GB at $352 "in perfect condition". The seller states: "Bought as Anniversary present. To be honest it's a lovely phone if you like Android But I wanted an iPhone. My wife thought I'd like this instead. Used for 2 hrs around the house and that's all. "
How legit do you think this is?
Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
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Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
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Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
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Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
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Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
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Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
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Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
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Seems reasonable. I might as well wait for G5+ and buy it when it becomes available. Thank you once again.
Take my advice and don't buy it.
So did you go for the OP2?
The G5 looks like a good alternative!
no save your hard earned money and buy a better phone, this is already a 2 year old phone and its not worth buying anymore, otherwise if you find a new one for just $50 bucks go for it otherwise forget this phone even existed.
Hi everyone. Do you recommend to pass from an LG G4 to a Nexus 6P? Do you think that 6P is still a good smartphone in 2017? Thanks in advance.
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Hi everyone. Do you recommend to pass from an LG G4 to a Nexus 6P? Do you think that 6P is still a good smartphone in 2017? Thanks in advance.
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Personally I would hold off. Seems there has been some quality issues with the Nexus 6p. Have a look at this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
Even the Nexus 5x has a bootloop of death issue. I'm a die-hard Nexus fan and currently I'm on a Nexus 6 and was thinking of continuing to the Nexus 6p but after reading all these quality issues and Huawei giving bad support, I'm going to hold of. Many of those who can't afford or who can't justify buying the Pixel devices are moving to OnePlus 3/3T.
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Personally I would hold off. Seems there has been some quality issues with the Nexus 6p. Have a look at this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
*SNIP*, I'm going to hold of. Many of those who can't afford or who can't justify buying the Pixel devices are moving to OnePlus 3/3T.
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That option exist only if you are not Verizon. The OnePLus is not Verizon compatible..
That said, I don't have any issues with my 6P.
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That option exist only if you are not Verizon. The OnePLus is not Verizon compatible..
That said, I don't have any issues with my 6P.
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I don't have any problems with my 6P either but that doesn't change the fact that there are build quality issues with this phone and that an alarmingly high number of people seem to have serious issues with the 6P. If you buy one of these without warranty you are taking a serious chance. I personally wouldn't buy a 6P at this point. Too many potential issues and poor support from both Google and Huawei.
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That option exist only if you are not Verizon. The OnePLus is not Verizon compatible..
That said, I don't have any issues with my 6P.
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I do not know what carrier the OP has but even if OnePlus is not an option, I wouldn't jump the gun on the Nexus 6p. The device is no doubt a great device but as @jhs39 says, there is also no doubt that it has quality issues. Don't get me wrong, I really wanted that device but buying it now when warranty will be limited is a huge risk. Even with warranty it feels not good to know the phone is a ticking time bomb that might stop working when you least expect it. I'm glad it works for you of course but I wouldn't recommend anyone to get it in these day and age. From the stories I've read from the link I shared it seems like Google is pointing on Huawei because it's a hardware defect. Huawei is giving their customers the cold shoulder and the RMA process has been a nightmare. Just that feels disturbing. So that's the reason why I can't find myself choosing the 6p. The 5x is also a ticking time bomb. Really sad that both Huawei and LG messed up on the last Nexus devices.
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I do not know what carrier the OP has but even if OnePlus is not an option, I wouldn't jump the gun on the Nexus 6p. The device is no doubt a great device but as @jhs39 says, there is also no doubt that it has quality issues. Don't get me wrong, I really wanted that device but buying it now when warranty will be limited is a huge risk. Even with warranty it feels not good to know the phone is a ticking time bomb that might stop working when you least expect it. I'm glad it works for you of course but I wouldn't recommend anyone to get it in these day and age. From the stories I've read from the link I shared it seems like Google is pointing on Huawei because it's a hardware defect. Huawei is giving their customers the cold shoulder and the RMA process has been a nightmare. Just that feels disturbing. So that's the reason why I can't find myself choosing the 6p. The 5x is also a ticking time bomb. Really sad that both Huawei and LG messed up on the last Nexus devices.
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Granted I wouldn't buy one without a warranty.
I just did a warranty claim with my Google Warranty. No isses and I had a replacement in 2 days.
Once the current Google warranty gest close to expirations, I'm going to get a SquareTrade plan.
On any modern phone, it's crazy not to have some kind of extended/warranty and damage replacement plan.
Hii to all Honor 8 owners :laugh:
I am starting this topic couse every here and there I find in all of the threads
someone complain how the Huawei don't care and that they don't update
our phone in a good way or at least as promised.
So, the ones which are compain, they say like I paid the money for the phone
I want this or that and they are not satisfide with the phone couse it is an all around good
phone but you know, no xda support or something like it is a good value phone but
Huawei is bad and so on and so on.
Now I want this things to be discussed in this topic...
What do you think, will we get the android O update?
Why do you think Huawei is the one to be blamed?
Do you think they will not keep with the promise they gave to all Honor phones
and the 2 year software upgrade??
Are you dissapointed with this phone or just with Huawei??
Do you think you are not getting with this phone what you have paid for??
And lots of other stuff to be discussed in this topic and thread..
Now to give my opinion.
First I want to say I had a lot of smartphones
I was having from LG, Samsung, Sony and some other phones and now evan this Huawei
The first thing I notice is you guys complain in every xda thread the same and
not being real not for once for any phone
It goes like this
I will never again buy an Huawei or LG or Samsung or Sony or other phone like iPhone
I paid so much money but not getting the full software support, they just don't care about this phone
Then after like 7 days it goes like this is the worst phone I ever had.. do not buy that phone guys couse
it has an overheat issue when gaming..
It is not good for gaming at all
And so on and so on...
Well I must say that you guys always complain that you don't know how to buy your next phone
or you want it to be perfect for the money you paid.. so you are not real..
So lets be real just for once, how come evan an samsung s8+ owner after one or two weeks is
complaining about the phone?? And the usuall thing, I wont buy samsung no more!! LooOOooL
Dont you go and read about the phone what you are getting and what you will be paying for?
Dont you come over to xda to first ask for user experiance but after some time you come to
blaim some company for not giving updates like you DESIRE IT .. like every month.. regardless of
the REAL possibility to have such support??
I had so many phones wich not evan had what now the Honor 8 has.. I had phones wich had no
support not just from the manufacturer but also not on xda like couse my phone was in my region
with the bootloader locked with no possibility to unlock it ever!!
And I was stuck on what I get out of the box
So, long story short, why you guys always looking for the perfect one wich will have it all
like the best build the premium feel and the xda support and evan the support from the
manufacturer and then not getting it and come to blaim someone after like two weeks..
Can it just once be like.. I am satisfide with what I got??
My opinion you should be satisfide with the Honor 8
It has after like 10 months more then some more expansive phones
Not to evan say something about the premium feel and the build quality
So, lets discuss it now and here what you think overall of it.. not in every other topic..
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Posting this first will promote a better and more productive discussion.
BTW, the last time the Honor 8 FDR-L04/L14 were up-to-date with security patches was October 2016 when Huawei released B162 firmware. December security patch was released in February and that's the latest official we've got so far. Now the still to be released B385 update will bring us just up to March's patch.
I'm starting to see a pattern here now and is not good.
Hii @Dominikrod
Thanks for the link for the update policy
And yes it is not updated that fast.. like getting the march security in the late april or start of may
But is it really something to complain so much of it like some of users do?
What I want to say this is a very good phone not just for the price but it has right now more than some phones priced this much like the samsung A5 2016/2017 phones..
And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Hii @fernandoarafat
And yes if it is the best possible wich is Huawei doing right now I think
it is still good enough but thats just my opinion
But yes I do see that this promise thing you all are saying made you all disappointed
in Huawei..
But nobody is saying if they ever gave a time limit like when they will be releasing anything
to the XDA community... all I hear is no more Huawei I wont be buying anymore phones from Huawei
or the other stuff you are disaappointed..
I just have an idea... like if Huawei had talked first with someone who was in charge from the XDA community..
And some of us ( as I know some developers ) were contacting Huawei..
Why don't we ask the ''someone'' from XDA community ( who made this agreement with Huawei )
to ask for all the Huawei owners here on XDA what is going on??
I think we should ask for what is promised and ask
for some answers or some time limit when some of things will happen.
Anybody more intrested?? Or maybe did anybody already spoke to someone
and has already some info regarding this??
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Don't know if you remember this one but this is almost laughable!
This was Taylor speaking about their new Software Update Policy.
Taylor Wimberly, a customer acquisition manager at Huawei Technologies (which owns Honor), has even gone so far as to challenge other manufacturers to follow Honor's example. "I hope that by announcing this policy that we can change the industry for the better. Seriously, all OEMs should be doing this and I welcome them to join us."
I just tried to contact the XDA community
But after asking the things I was.. and hitting the red SEND button
to send my message to them.. well it just was sending and sending it forever..
So, I have saved the text in my notepad and will try later to send it
Or some other day..
If I succeed and if I get an answer I will report this back to all of you
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And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
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Hi brljak83,
I'm not sure a 10 month-old phone counts as new device in this market, it's more of a passing one. The truth is that Huawei started quite nicely at the beginning but everything went down hill after November of last year. If you remember this phone was announced back in July/August and Huawei made all sort of PR stunts to convince prospect buyers that their product was the best choice in the $400 to $450 range, at least here in the USA market. I went ahead and bought for myself the $450 Honor 8 64GB at the beginning of that campaign. The Oneplus 3 was $399 at that time, but I wasn't happy with the way OnePlus treated OP2 and OPX owners, so I didn't wanted to do business with them anymore even though the OP3 was an amazing device for the price. Then OnePlus 3T happened and Huawei coudn't justify the overpriced H8 pricing strategy so retailers started discounting the Honor back in November. Some people may argue that H8 was not competing with the 5.5" screen phones but if you read carefully from the beginning that was their intention all alone. Actually some reviews I read compared it mostly with the OP3 and the Axon 7 since those phones are in the same price range or were.
Now mid May 2017, the OP3/3t and the Axon 7 64GB have Android 7.1.1 since April, plus both phones have been getting more frequent security update patches than the H8. And where are we? Still stuck with Android 7.0, December's Security Patch, battery drain issues and some old bugs that have not been fixed yet.
Now you tell me if Taylor Wimberly's August comment about other manufacturers should follow their example and commitment doesn't seem totally laughable.
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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"Next prize giveaway date: new rules and prizes coming in the spring!"
Wonder if that it's still valid?
Thanks for this one
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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Hii
Thanks you for that link
I tried last night to contact the XDA community to get some answers
But it failed..
Thanks to you I got someone to contact regarding the partnership
When and if I get an answer I will post it and report it back to all of you
So that all of you will know what has been told to me
Thanks for the help :highfive:
No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
Hii @SolarisSixth
Well, it is your opinion for this phone and I do respect it..
But for me I am not bothered so much by some of the bugs.. And I have them too..
And what I would say to you as an advice from my own experiance becouse I had a lots of phones
like LG or Samsung or Sony or iPhone it is always the same story
Belive me always they say bad or week support I wont buy it again..
So you will have to choose your next phone wisely not to end disappointed again in the same way..
Do a lot of reading about your next phone couse otherwise you will end up again disappointed
Why
Couse it is by all of them the same way and the same treatment
The only thing what I know is for the very most expensive phones ( Flagships ) they get a bit more
treatment and a faster treatment couse it is the best company gives to the customers and it is
the phone that represents the company as the best one they have for that year.. and then you get
a bit better support for bugs and stuff.. couse they dont want to be bad by giving the most expensive one
wich should represent the best face of the company
So if money is not an issue for you and you already choose with your wallet then go for the
most expensive one and still if you get such a phone still be happy with what you get..
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
However, kernel source release, which Honor tells us will happen in the near future for the Honor 8
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:laugh: There is a broad definition about "near future". Also, legally they HAVE to share kernel source, but who cares about the law anyway?
I have also a Honor 7. They stop supporting roughly 1 year after release. No source code, no Nougat update. I thought they improved something, but apparently no. What a sucker!
It's up to anyone to deal in whatever manner they see fit with Huawei/Honor false promises. What is not debatable is if it's fair to demand for those promises being kept.
I'm not expecting anything besides what the brand promised. And for that I cannot be pointed as being over-demanding or wanting the impossible.
I was afraid of ZTE Axon support but apparently they lead the game, a long with OP and Sony. And given the lottery regarding quality of components Huawei P10, it's just all a big red flag not to spend a cent with the brand.
For now, I will keep the H8 and milk it as much as I can, until I see fit to change. For another brand, obviously.
So here I am to report it back to all of you
This maybe some good news afterall..maybe
It is regarding the partnership with XDA and to give the source code to us.
Read more in the link below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
Well, i bought this phone at the end of March, this year. I bought it for 329€ on Amazon, and for that price at this specs i think it'a a very good phone, also considering that other similar phones costs even double this price sometimes. Afrer this i tried the phone and i just love it now. Fast, superb fingerprint sensor, good camera, good in gaming etc. The only thing i complain for is the GPU, could be better... However, talking about the software and updates, i think that we will get at least 7.1.1 (if Honor respect their promises). I'm not just talking however, i got in touch with Honor USA on Twitter and that's what they told me:
http://imgur.com/a/OSmLv Screen 1
http://imgur.com/a/RBBFb Screen 2
Ps. The first screen is from a pic that i saw on internet, related to another conversation with Honor USA (not mine). I just sent them this pic and tried to get a confirm from them...wich in the 50% maybe they gave me. Now i don't know if they will relase Android 7.1.1 with EMUI 5.1 someday, but i hope to see it. No hopes for Android O however...
What do you think?
Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hi, i was talking about official updates, not XDA related. However, nice to hear that
SolarisSixth said:
No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
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Honor is not pulling out of the US market and this has been confirmed by them. Can u please specify from where u got the information that they r leaving the US market?
Oh and they completely ignored my second question ?
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Just overall question to evrerybody...omce we Get Stock Oreo...I am giving away this device to a relative and I will buy a new one than can ensure to me I will get Android P by Dec.18 or Jan19....sooooo the question in...if we can rate from top to bettom which company we may go with.....
LG
Sony
Samsung
Xiaomi
****ty Motonovo
HTC
Google.
Huaweii
Any other else.....
Lets help us all....brother!!!
Personally I think I will go back to HTC mid range or high end.
In this moment, I would say Nokia is the best company giving updates, almost pairing to the Google pixel devices, but since it's not In your list I would go with Google, Sony or HTC, but if you can buy a Nokia device it would be better (than Sony or HTC I mean)
Nokia right now is probably the best and of course Google as well, but Sony gives a really good support to their devices, I had the xperia xa1 and they gave me update every month and oreo update in february of this year... but then I got rid of the phone because it has some touchscreen problems... Anyway, you can choose this three brands... and HTC for me it's dead in mid range, probably you will have to buy high end for getting a good support...
cheers!
Just be aware that, at the moment, Nokia Android devices do not appear to have an official bootloader unlocked method. I do not know if this may change as some devices reach the end of support (in about 2 years time), but something to be aware of if you prefer custom ROMs.
What about any of the devices on the Android One program? (e.g. Moto X4 - Fi version, Xiaomi Mi A1) as regardless of OEM, they should be providing you with 2 OS updates/3 years of security patches as standard?
Nokia is the best option. Sadly no bootloader unlock But atleast you get updates pretty fast, so for ME it shouldn't be a problem.
Go with android one or oneplus
Nokia or Xiaomi
Android One is available with both- All Nokias, some Xiaomis (Mi A1)
Miui update support is also great, never out of security patches or features
Sometimes they dont update Android Version but features,security updates are good enough
LLegion said:
Just overall question to evrerybody...omce we Get Stock Oreo...I am giving away this device to a relative and I will buy a new one than can ensure to me I will get Android P by Dec.18 or Jan19....sooooo the question in...if we can rate from top to bettom which company we may go with.....
LG
Sony
Samsung
Xiaomi
****ty Motonovo
HTC
Google.
Huaweii
Any other else.....
Lets help us all....brother!!!
Personally I think I will go back to HTC mid range or high end.
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Stay away from Huawei! Horrible customer service. Lied about providing updates. Terrible company.
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Stay away from Huawei! Horrible customer service. Lied about providing updates. Terrible company.
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Seems that Huawei and honor by extension do not offer bootloader unlocking on new devices anymore (with a grace period for existing devices to get your unlock code). https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
I don't know if this will get reversed, though I would not be surprised if more OEMs decline to offer bootloader unlocking in the future.
In the same boat.
I'm not buying another Motorola phone, they've lost me as a customer.
Anyhow as above.
Google pixel phones are best, albeit expensive.
Nokia Android One 2018 phones
Sony give good updates too.
Also see this list
https://androidenterprisepartners.w...-1829312490.1522349976#!/results/browse-all/2
As Huawei stops their bootlader unlocking program and also is worse in case of updating their devices and Nokia doesn't have an unlocking program at all there are only two OEMs I would buy a device from:
Google and One Plus. But both are above my budget, I'm the kind of person that is not willing to pay for a brand and has an upper limit for something like a smartphone. Motorola was the best choice for me. And if Xiaomi starts to sell their devices in Europe (they do atm) and delivers better quality and more vanilla like android they could be a choice too in the future.
UntiI than I stay with Moto and hope that Lenovo don't decide to cancel their bootlader unlocking service too. A non rootable device is the Nr.1 deal breaker for me.
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Wolfcity said:
As Huawei stops their bootlader unlocking program and also is worse in case of updating their devices and Nokia doesn't have an unlocking program at all there are only two OEMs I would buy a device from:
Google and One Plus. But both are above my budget, I'm the kind of person that is not willing to pay for a brand and has an upper limit for something like a smartphone. Motorola was the best choice for me. And if Xiaomi starts to sell their devices in Europe (they do atm) and delivers better quality and more vanilla like android they could be a choice too in the future.
UntiI than I stay with Moto and hope that Lenovo don't decide to cancel their bootlader unlocking service too. A non rootable device is the Nr.1 deal breaker for me.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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I'm in a similar position - though I don't need a bootloader unlock, having the option there for the eventual day when support/patches ends is a considerable bonus for a certain purchase in my view.
Despite the patchy update schedule, Motorola is still an OEM I'd still consider - my XT1642, a G4 Plus, is still going strong and is proving durable. The updates I've received for my device have been stable, if slow to arrive. I can live with that - I rather prefer having a reliable working device rather than the very newest updates (might explain why I grew tired of custom ROMs...). Might be worth considering the One Power being an Android One platform and the Z series, as they appear to have regular updates.
I am considering the Samsung Galaxy A6+ (AMOLED screen, hopefully good camera, though Samsung Touchwiz), the Sony Xperia XA2 (good updates, the camera appears to give images a cool tint? Also unlocking seems to destroy the DRM keys so your camera quality declines), Nokia 7 Plus (Android One and good feature set, though as previously discussed no bootloader unlock) and Moto Z2 Play at the moment (don't need Moto mods!). Of these devices, the Z2 Play appears to have pretty good support on XDA - the Galaxy is too new and the XA2 appears to not have a dedicated XDA page...
I'm amazed at the obsession level expressed regarding updates for our phones, whether stock, oreo and custom roms supplying oreo.
The disrespectful behaviour demanding updates, not even bothering to search or read threads, a great example is volte, browsing the G5 plus forum should sound alarm bells ringing for anyone who relies on that system for communication, why would you risk installing a custom rom if there is a good chance you will not have telephony working, that's why they are called phones, that also applies to the imei lost issues.
And getting it into every ones head, backing up is the first thing to be done if thinking of modifying any computer system as a fail-safe.
For me there are way too many noobs, who cannot be arsed to read anything bar a direct answer to their "asked many times questions", gone are the days when xda was for enthusiastic testers, who could specify and isolate bugs in collaboration with developers.
Last but not least, the forums are a mess, multiple cross posting, duplicating existing, no faq's the list is endless.
Anyway I like my G5 plus, think its a great value phone, especially with nfc for payment, which does get used daily.
Regards
Ray
Nokia Google or Sony....think Google the best option thanks to everybody