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[Q] [URGENT] Help me pick between the OnePlus Two and the 6P before my invite expires

Hello everyone,
I have been aiming for the OnePlus Two for a while now but since I didn't get an invite and the 6P got announced I thought I'd have that one. Until today that I have received a OPT invite. Now please help me pick which is better, do I get the OPT right now or do I let the invite expire and wait for the 6P?
I've got less than 23 hours to use the invite please help me pick quick.
Thank veeeeeeery much

From a developer stand-point:
Both phones are development phones. Both the Nexus 6P and OP2 are going to have support for almost every rom that exists. Here's the difference, the 6P will have longer support for every rom (As in for years). On the other hand, the OP2 will loose rom support of a fraction of the roms it has right now after CM 13/6.0 source is out. Also Nexus devices are home to new non-ROM/Kernel projects. These include multirom (dual boot), WuguFresh toolkit, etc.
Also Google will support the device for much longer than OP will ever support the Two.
My vote: 6P

Shawn5162 said:
From a developer stand-point:
Both phones are development phones. Both the Nexus 6P and OP2 are going to have support for almost every rom that exists. Here's the difference, the 6P will have longer support for every rom (As in for years). On the other hand, the OP2 will loose rom support of a fraction of the roms it has right now after CM 13/6.0 source is out. Also Nexus devices are home to new non-ROM/Kernel projects. These include multirom (dual boot), WuguFresh toolkit, etc.
Also Google will support the device for much longer than OP will ever support the Two.
My vote: 6P
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Yes, you're right about that but the one thing that is scaring me off the 6P is that it might have problems when it launches and there are no in-depth reviews yet of it

VBTheory said:
Yes, you're right about that but the one thing that is scaring me off the 6P is that it might have problems when it launches and there are no in-depth reviews yet of it
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This is a valid concern, but there's nothing you can do about it at the moment except pick your priorities.
There is a method you can use that can help you decide...since all of the facts known at present are the only ones with which you can work. Example: you'll likely not find an in depth review until the actual units have begun shipping...many companies have pre-release devices, but likely agreed to not complete a full review in exchange for physically having the device (ie, away from Google) prior to launch.
Let me know and I'll walk you through it. It's a pen & paper version of conjoint analysis. It'll only take a few minutes, and you'll have your answer.
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression

micmars said:
This is a valid concern, but there's nothing you can do about it at the moment except pick your priorities.
There is a method you can use that can help you decide...since all of the facts known at present are the only ones with which you can work. Example: you'll likely not find an in depth review until the actual units have begun shipping...many companies have pre-release devices, but likely agreed to not complete a full review in exchange for physically having the device (ie, away from Google) prior to launch.
Let me know and I'll walk you through it. It's a pen & paper version of conjoint analysis. It'll only take a few minutes, and you'll have your answer.
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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I've watched every single hands-on video about the device on the launch event in an effort to gather as much possible information about it but I'm afraid it might not live up to the hype. I hear for example all reviewers say it's got one of the best panels, an awesome camera.... but those people only had a short time to assert those things.

VBTheory said:
I've watched every single hands-on video about the device on the launch event in an effort to gather as much possible information about it but I'm afraid it might not live up to the hype. I hear for example all reviewers say it's got one of the best panels, an awesome camera.... but those people only had a short time to assert those things.
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I understand, you've already noted that, but there is no way to change that reality...so, would you like some assistance in making your choice?
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression

micmars said:
I understand, you've already noted that, but there is no way to change that reality...so, would you like some assistance in making your choice?
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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Of course I would, have you had time on the device yourself?

many many manyyyy people are selling the OnePlus 2 on swappa at retail cost i u change ur mind.

VBTheory said:
Of course I would, have you had time on the device yourself?
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No, but I know of no one who has the device and can rightly use their experience with the device to assist you without breaking the nondisclosure agreement they likely had to sign.
I can help you with your decision using only the facts available as of this writing.
Would you like such assistance or not?
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I feel Google will be a lot better to rectify defects of a 6p before op would. They were terrible with customer support and I think still are. You have a great backing with Google.

If you got the $$, the Nexus 6P is a no brainer.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4

micmars said:
No, but I know of no one who has the device and can rightly use their experience with the device to assist you without breaking the nondisclosure agreement they likely had to sign.
I can help you with your decision using only the facts available as of this writing.
Would you like such assistance or not?
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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Sure man tell me what you think I need to know

If you aren't put off by the price difference then 6p all the way. I have the oneplus one (came from nexus 5) and since lollipop its became a rather poor device, mobile data will occasionally be unavailable once switching from WiFi or to a new cell tower and it requires a reboot to fix (this is an OPO specific issue). Still not fixed and it took them a year to implement a reasonable software fix for the flawed touch screen.
Updates were extremely late and never provided by deadlines they gave us and the hardware support is terrible where they generally seem to class every RMA as water damage and ask for money to repair a faulty device.
Gave up with oneplus, too many promises and they don't deliver on it. Oxygen OS is still alpha state (in my opinion), the hardware of the oneplus two is still lacking as again they said the camera would be awesome but its not.. They cut NFC which is actually used by a fair few people and that includes me so its an immediate no from me even excluding all the previous crap.
My nexus 5 is still fast day to day than my OPO, says it all really and I can't wait to get back to the nexus line. Was going to get the 5x but its too similar to the original 5 so I thought screw it I'll get the 6p as its pretty much the same size as the OPO but thinner and has stereo speakers and AMOLED display!
Fyi you will get a biased response here but my honest opinion is if the price is acceptable to you and the size is then the 6p is the vastly superior choice.
Enjoy either one

VBTheory said:
Sure man tell me what you think I need to know
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Please list the features and concerns you have in a numbered list, similar to what I've done below...please keep it to less than or equal to 10...
1. Good camera
2. Price
3. Stereo speakers
4. Amount of ram (in GB)
5. NFC
6. Financial stability of company offering the device
Once you've made your list, I'll provide you with a simple, analytical approach that can help you to decide.
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression

micmars said:
Please list the features and concerns you have in a numbered list, similar to what I've done below...please keep it to less than or equal to 10...
1. Good camera
2. Price
3. Stereo speakers
4. Amount of ram (in GB)
5. NFC
6. Financial stability of company offering the device
Once you've made your list, I'll provide you with a simple, analytical approach that can help you to decide.
#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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Here's the list:
1. Screen
2. Camera
3. Battery life
4. Speed of the device
5. Price
Thanks man

6p don't let op2 hype get you. I'd be afraid to buy op2 after all the bad from opo

VBTheory said:
Here's the list:
1. Screen
2. Camera
3. Battery life
4. Speed of the device
5. Price
Thanks man
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OK, now please change your list as follows, vertically on a sheet of paper, as below...you needn't publish it here, just let me know when you've made your list...
A. 1080p screen
B. QHD (2K) screen
C. Optical image stabilization, smaller image sensors
D. No optical image stabilization, larger image sensor
E. Known good battery life
F. Possibly excellent battery life
G. 4 GB ram
H. 3 GB ram
I. 350 GBPs
J. 400 euros
K. 650 euros
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clorbag said:
6p don't let op2 hype get you. I'd be afraid to buy op2 after all the bad from opo
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There are millions of happy OPO users that would strongly disagree with this statement.
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VBTheory said:
Hello everyone,
I have been aiming for the OnePlus Two for a while now but since I didn't get an invite and the 6P got announced I thought I'd have that one. Until today that I have received a OPT invite. Now please help me pick which is better, do I get the OPT right now or do I let the invite expire and wait for the 6P?
I've got less than 23 hours to use the invite please help me pick quick.
Thank veeeeeeery much
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Lol wth.... the 1+2 vs the 6p??
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A

ambervals6 said:
Lol wth.... the 1+2 vs the 6p??
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
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Yes, that's his quandary...and it is a legitimate one if he's having difficulty deciding.
Lol™
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I have a OPT and have just ordered the Nexus 6P. Will probably sell the OPT (I get bored easily).

Nexus 6P vs Pixel XL

Hey guys, how you all doing?
Just wanted to know your opinion. Currently I am a phoneless guy since my Nexus 5 died a few days ago and since I gave up on the ZTE Axon 7 due to the lack of support from ZTE to the mod community. I am really, really, really eager to finally see what Google is up with the new Pixel phones. Some rumors say that it will be a tough phone to root and mod due to the two partitions for seamless updates and the startup check, etc, etc. That is worrying me a bit. But, since I am a bit desperate to get a new phone, the wait is just cruel, unbearable, excruciating! Yesterday I came across the Nexus 6P, the 128GB version to be more specific, at Amazon. Taking the Nexus 5 as reference, I know that I can rely on the support from the mod community to always have new and updated stuff, since we are talking of a phone that was launched just one year ago. SO, what would you do? Buy a consolidated phone that is the Nexus 6P with tons and tons of mods available, or wait for the Pixel XL?
Sorry for the long text!
Regards!

i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!

rusty-ragster said:
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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I am with Rusty. They said the same thing with iPhone jailbreak (root), Samsung's KNOX, SELinux, locked bootloaders, crazy EEPROM chips, Nexus 6P qfuse, etc...

rusty-ragster said:
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.

Here is mY 2 cents. I literally know nothing about the new pixel phone as I have no interest in getting it. The only thing I do know that I could suggest is number one HTC is a dying company and I believe that's who makes the phone. It seems to be a love-hate relationship depending on who you talk to but in my opinion they make some of the worst phones available. Number 2 the pixel phone is going to be close to $700 where as the 6p is now selling for under three hundred depending on where you go which is a gigantic difference in price. Again I don't know the specs the ins and the outs of the new pixel phone however a $400 price difference and the name HTC would lead me to say go with the 6p. Remember how well the last HTC Nexus device when? Probably not cuz it was basically a pos that nobody gave a damn about
Sent from a Shaftamle Nexus 6P
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Well I know I'm loving 6p big time after finally being able to get one a couple of weeks ago. It's the gold 64gb one and wow, what a phone that will be hard to beat. I'm working twelves and the phone makes it through the whole shift with ghostpepper profile applied. Anyway like previous post what a deal and for the price of pixel, what a steal. Good luck and thank you.

tech_head said:
Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.
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indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.

Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!

rusty-ragster said:
indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.
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Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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gibawatts said:
Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!
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Where??

ludovicien said:
Where??
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German Amazon

Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.

ludovicien said:
Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.
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Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=

gibawatts said:
Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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Great deal, Congratz! Enjoy your Nexus6 P.

Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
Sent from a Shaftamle Nexus 6P
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It's not harder just a new layout. Chain fire will have it working in no time. Don't sweat it.

Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
Sent from a Shaftamle Nexus 6P
"Thanks Button" is always appreciated!
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i know man seems like google is bringing the nexus out of the dev phone spectrum and is targeting it towards the average consumer now with all of this new pixel branding and stuff i don't understand why though as it took them a long time to make the nexus brand popular and now they are ditching it when it's better than it ever was. :/

gibawatts said:
Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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1.8 rating dude...

I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.

gorman42 said:
I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.
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Yes, some times you get lucky. I didn't! I started asking questions and out of the blue I received an email from Amazon telling me that the guy canceled the the sell because he didn't have the phone . So I promptly bought a 64GB that is fullfiled by amazon, of course.

Got mine less than a month ago. 390 Euros .. the 64Gb version all bran new.
I don't think it's worth paying 700$ for the Pixel XL for the 32Gb version. Didn't see anything worth wasting money on. No major hardware changes that will make that a good deal.

Should I purchase a Nexus 6P or look elsewhere?

Is the Nexus 6P bootlooping as much as the Nexus 5X? Is it strictly a software or hardware problem with the Nexus 6P? I need to look for a new phone and the only choice I have is a Nexus 6P but I'm too afraid of it bootlooping like my Nexus 5X.

LayWhoZayHer said:
Is the Nexus 6P bootlooping as much as the Nexus 5X? Is it strictly a software or hardware problem with the Nexus 6P? I need to look for a new phone and the only choice I have is a Nexus 6P but I'm too afraid of it bootlooping like my Nexus 5X.
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To be honest if you look through the help threads you will see the amount of phones getting hit by this bootloop bug, here and on Reddit there are numerous devices. Now there are some that do not have those bug but it's a chance that it can happen. I fell victim to this bootloop fiasco and was never able to recover from it no matter what I tried, and I tried everything there is. I wound up doing an RMA as I was still under warranty.

Honestly I would only buy the 6P if it comes with a warranty or something. I've been blessed with mine never experienced any of the boot looping that a lot have.
But I been thinking of getting the OP3T as I'm having the New Phone Itch. But it's not much of an upgrade IMO. So I may wait for the OP4 then upgrade.
Good luck on your hunt
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

In doubt between Nexus and other phone

Hi everyone,
I currently own a Galaxy S6 but since the custom development is poor and the battery life isn't what I desire, I'm looking for an upgrade. My eyes fell on the 6P, but also the new midrange of Motorola, the G5 Plus.
The two things I mentioned are urgent in my search for a new smartphone.
I hope someone can help a fellow flashaholic out!

I don't recommend a 6P nowadays. It's a great phone, but it has the 810 bootloop issue and the although I think the battery is great, it can fail at any moment and you'll have to replace it - these two behaviors are well documented here.
I'd suggest a Pixel or (like me) wait for the Pixel 2, it's around the corner.

And if you can recommend me any phone around €250, what would you recommend right now? Because that's the price range I'm looking in.

Moto Z play or play 2. Have great battery life, development should be good too because vanilla Android on moto devices.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Same recommendation as the guy above, don't get a Nexus 6p. I've got two of them and both suffer from a range of issues, including the early shutdown problem and the bootloop issue (one of them). You're better off taking your money somewhere else

MrMarques01 said:
Same recommendation as the guy above, don't get a Nexus 6p. I've got two of them and both suffer from a range of issues, including the early shutdown problem and the bootloop issue (one of them). You're better off taking your money somewhere else
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Did you purchase your phone from Google?

dratsablive said:
Did you purchase your phone from Google?
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Nope, I bought both phones second hand (when I bought them they were working great of course). These issues usually show up after several months

MrMarques01 said:
Nope, I bought both phones second hand (when I bought them they were working great of course). These issues usually show up after several months
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Drats. I have same battery issue. Even though warranty expired last winter, Google is still sending me a free replacement.

Still a good phone for a good price and nice developing would be a axon 7. my wife owns it and it would be an option for me if my n6p decides to die.

coremania said:
Still a good phone for a good price and nice developing would be a axon 7. my wife owns it and it would be an option for me if my n6p decides to die.
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Ya. If you ever experienced front facing speakers, nothing else will do. I have the ported axon 7 Dolby Atmos installed and it matches my friend's axon 7 output. My 6p is coming to a year old and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.:fingers-crossed:

tropical cactus said:
Ya. If you ever experienced front facing speakers, nothing else will do. I have the ported axon 7 Dolby Atmos installed and it matches my friend's axon 7 output. My 6p is coming to a year old and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.:fingers-crossed:
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Yes, mine is a year old too, hope I'll never experience the bod,
but if, my wife gets a new phone win win

So if I get to choose between a Nexus 6P, Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and an iPhone 6 64GB. Which one would be worth the money considering my points of battery life and development?
IPhone and 6P would both be at a price of €250 and the Xiaomi €170.

NExus 6P dead

Hey
So all the sudden my N6P (that was already with a fix to bootloop of death and had faulty battery in place) died. It doesn`t show any charging indication or power at all. I`m thinking is the end of the line for it, but need to ask, anyone have a suggestion to try bring it back to live?
Thanks

lu4414 said:
Hey
So all the sudden my N6P (that was already with a fix to bootloop of death and had faulty battery in place) died. It doesn`t show any charging indication or power at all. I`m thinking is the end of the line for it, but need to ask, anyone have a suggestion to try bring it back to live?
Thanks
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Nope, and at this point it probably isn't worth your time. While there still have been security updates, Google's commitment to provide any updates ended before Christmas, so I suspect we're pretty close to EOL on this. I just went back to my 6p after an unfortunate 8 months with an Xperia ZX Premium, so now I'm hoping I can suck a few months out of it while I ponder my next device.

ultyrunner said:
Nope, and at this point it probably isn't worth your time. While there still have been security updates, Google's commitment to provide any updates ended before Christmas, so I suspect we're pretty close to EOL on this. I just went back to my 6p after an unfortunate 8 months with an Xperia ZX Premium, so now I'm hoping I can suck a few months out of it while I ponder my next device.
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That really sucks. I never gonna go buy Google Hardware again, it's not the first time they let old users down (multiple new launchers and minor tweaks never came down to Nexus or older Pixel) even with the promised of latest software always. Then N6P was QC screwed everywhere.
Going to a OnePlus now and being very sad of having a $500 paper weight on the drawer
Thanks for the answer and best of luck with your new device

lu4414 said:
That really sucks. I never gonna go buy Google Hardware again, it's not the first time they let old users down (multiple new launchers and minor tweaks never came down to Nexus or older Pixel) even with the promised of latest software always. Then N6P was QC screwed everywhere. Going to a OnePlus now and being very sad of having a $500 paper weight on the drawer
Thanks for the answer and best of luck with your new device
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Well, to be fair, the biggest issue with the 6p device was the battery failures and early on, Google was swapping devices, but the service sucked in getting Huawei to do anything after that. However, yes, the software lifecycle on older Nexus devices is weak. I suspect the main reason is that Google has moved to a 'more' closed ecosystem with the Pixel line. Nexus devices were always supposed to be more open, easy to hack and reasonably priced. The Pixel strategy is to more directly compete with the Apple iPhone model. Premium everything. Whether they'll support those longer? Who knows.
And, my new device is already toast but thanks. I'd buy a Pixel way before I'd buy another Sony Xperia. They allow unlocked bootloaders and claim to support development, but the minute you unlock the BL it renders the camera unusable. Devs did develop a patch, but there was virtually no development for the device. I've already had 6 hardware feature failures in 8 months of use and I bought it as an unlocked int'l version that would have to be shipped overseas. I doubt they'd do anything because it's been rooted and flashed, so I'm just leaving.
I'm back to the 6p for a while. So far they are still providing security updates, but since no Nexus devices are part of the Android P developer preview, you can bet there will be no Android 9 for it, so I suspect that's when the security updates will stop too.

Hi,
Do you have tried remove de back case and after that the battery?