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Why to not buy the AT&T phone for TMO

I've seen some threads abound for people asking if the AT&T version works on T-Mobile and while it does there are some things that you should know before making that plunge even though you might be able to save $50.
First the good. If you've already done this that's fine. All bands for operation on T-mobile are on the AT&T variant. So no issues there. Don't feel like me making this thread means your device won't work.
If you're weighing what you lose in this scenario:
- You'll need to buy an unlock code, or at least find one, to switch it over. While these codes are cheap it's still chipping away at that small discount you got to buy the AT&T version instead of the TMO one.
- VoLTE support. While it's not enabled yet, it will come shortly and AT&T phones won't have the right radio and framework to make this work on TMO.
- QI Charging - in case you've been living under a rock in these forums, the AT&T model utilizes the basically non-existant powermat charging method and they have disabled the ability to use a QI wireless charger. Supposedly this is at the hardware level so this isn't something that can be fixed with a patch or custom ROM if true.
- No WiFi calling. Self explanatory. AT&T doesn't have/use this technology.
- locked bootloader. Now this may change over time with the amazing devs that we have but should you accidentally relock it or get a replacement phone because your old one got lost/broken you may have a newer bootloader than the one that could be bypassed previously. Better to just not deal with it.
Now for those looking to go the other way (TMO device on AT&T) that's fine. Just know that the tmo version is missing the 850mhz LTE band. Not that big a deal though as they don't really use that band much but it is a difference.
If anyone can think of anything else I missed feel free to chime in. Or if anyone has any general thoughts.

Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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StreetkillnHD said:
Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.

Slash8915 said:
Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.

arcanexvi said:
And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.
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According to T-mo it's 20 cents/min to call international through WiFi. makes sense since the call has to be routed to cellular on the other side. I guess an exception would be if the recipient also has WiFi calling.
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Does the AT&T LG G3 support WCDMA on the Band 4/AWS band?

N6 T-mobile Great on Verizon

Hey guys, to all who are wondering... T-Mobile stores do have some stock of the blue Nexus 6 32gb today, didn't have an issue getting mine. I do have an account with a single line on T-Mobile that I do not use, so I used that account and paid for device in full ($650). Out of the box, it works great on Verizon. Voice quality is much better than Droid Turbo and iPhone 6+. Data speeds are strong (75mbps down & 30up) on LTE.
All I had to do to activate on Verizon was either let device self activate with Verizon SIM that takes about 5 minutes, or by going into Settings - More - Cellular and toggling Global mode.
The reason I made this thread is incase somebody who is like me and got tired of waiting for Google and Moto to have stock and wanted to purchase it via T-Mobile and use on another carrier. My friend works in a retail store and he said that even if you do not have an account with them, you can still buy you at full cost.

Does that mean its sim unlock?

air2k57 said:
Hey guys, to all who are wondering... T-Mobile stores do have some stock of the blue Nexus 6 32gb today, didn't have an issue getting mine. I do have an account with a single line on T-Mobile that I do not use, so I used that account and paid for device in full ($650). Out of the box, it works great on Verizon. Voice quality is much better than Droid Turbo and iPhone 6+. Data speeds are strong (75mbps down & 30up) on LTE.
All I had to do to activate on Verizon was either let device self activate with Verizon SIM that takes about 5 minutes, or by going into Settings - More - Cellular and toggling Global mode.
The reason I made this thread is incase somebody who is like me and got tired of waiting for Google and Moto to have stock and wanted to purchase it via T-Mobile and use on another carrier. My friend works in a retail store and he said that even if you do not have an account with them, you can still buy you at full cost.
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Do you know if it will work on ATT?

nickarate said:
Do you know if it will work on ATT?
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Yes, it works too.

can you try terthering?

if this works i think i will ask one of my boys who has t mobile to get me a phone out right.. i want the 64gb version tho..

My question is. Will Verizon whitelist the numbers from tmobile later down the line doh and block it from working on their towers. ?

air2k57 said:
going into Settings - More - Cellular and toggling Global mode.
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Why would you do that? I have it set to LTE and it seems to keep onto an LTE signal longer compared to "Global" mode, which I would use if I was traveling overseas and inserted a local SIM into my device.

But wouldn't it lose signal if you leave lte coverage and drop to 3g? Since Verizon is CDMA.

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But wouldn't it lose signal if you leave lte coverage and drop to 3g? Since Verizon is CDMA.
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No. Even my current moto x is in global and it switches between LTE and 3g just fine

roadratx said:
No. Even my current moto x is in global and it switches between LTE and 3g just fine
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Wait but you just said that yours is in Global and switches just fine. Would it switch fine while on LTE?

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Wait but you just said that yours is in Global and switches just fine. Would it switch fine while on LTE?
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I changed mine to LTE, using this way for 2 days, swiched to CDMA couple of times.. mine is a Moto store N6

Does hotspot work or is it blocked like AT&T?

Sorry, I don't have an ATT Sim. I only tried it for a few minutes when my friend was here to ensure that the device worked.

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Sorry, I don't have an ATT Sim. I only tried it for a few minutes when my friend was here to ensure that the device worked.
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But you have Verizon right? Does hotspot work on Verizon ?

biggiestuff said:
But you have Verizon right? Does hotspot work on Verizon ?
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I have a t-mobile nexus 6 with a Verizon SIM. Hotspot works on Verizon if you switch the cellular mode to LTE. It didn't work for me when in global mode which was the default out if the box.

Does it do voice and data at the same time on verizon?

munkle said:
Does it do voice and data at the same time on verizon?
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No. Same radio as iPhone 6. Unfortunately we lose this until VoLTE is a more adopted thing.

munkle said:
Does it do voice and data at the same time on verizon?
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Just tested it and I cannot get simultaneous voice and data over a cellular connection on Verizon with the Nexus 6.

God I love you right now lol, I am sick of the play store **** so I am probably just going to buy mine on prepaid online tommorow and have it shipped.
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6p with T-Mobile WiFi calling / volte

Will the 6p get WiFi calling from T-Mobile? I've heard yes and no maybe someone will have a better answer

WiFi calling was confirmed by T-Mobile.
VoLTE on the other hand is still up in the air. At the moment, no. It wasn't certified. However T-Mobile said that they were working with Google to get it certified before it ships. Which would be fantastic, because if it gets certified for VoLTE, LTE band 12 will be activated, for better coverage.

ninjosh97 said:
WiFi calling was confirmed by T-Mobile.
VoLTE on the other hand is still up in the air. At the moment, no. It wasn't certified. However T-Mobile said that they were working with Google to get it certified before it ships. Which would be fantastic, because if it gets certified for VoLTE, LTE band 12 will be activated, for better coverage.
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i sure hope so tmobile is spotty enough for me as it is, wifi calling is pretty big for me and volte is also. keeping my fingers crossed. took forever for them to get with the nexus 6

Assuming everyone knows the answer to this by now, but Des at T-Mobile confirmed on twitter that Wifi calling is working out of the box. https://twitter.com/askdes/status/648936588148371456

Looks like T-Mobile volte is working on the 6p according to the member daboyal006 with a 64gb obe...see his General section thread.

Just read the thread you mentioned. The OP was never able to verify if the phone was on Band 12. VoLTE works on Band 2 and Band 4 with T-mobile on the 6P, but Band 12 is still unconfirmed.
galaxys said:
Looks like T-Mobile volte is working on the 6p according to the member daboyal006 with a 64gb obe...see his General section thread.
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Bohemus said:
Assuming everyone knows the answer to this by now, but Des at T-Mobile confirmed on twitter that Wifi calling is working out of the box. https://twitter.com/askdes/status/648936588148371456
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awesome this is great info!!!!

clorbag said:
awesome this is great info!!!!
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Can someone explain what the big deal is with WiFi calling?
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bsg411 said:
Can someone explain what the big deal is with WiFi calling?
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It's awesome in places you don't have great cell service you can make calls over WiFi.
My old apartment didn't have service but I had internet so it was the only means I had to make calls. It's pretty self explanatory if you don't need it its not gonna make any difference to you.

Bohemus said:
Just read the thread you mentioned. The OP was never able to verify if the phone was on Band 12. VoLTE works on Band 2 and Band 4 with T-mobile on the 6P, but Band 12 is still unconfirmed.
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Aside from better coverage in buildings, we don't need band 12.

[hfm] said:
Aside from better coverage in buildings, we don't need band 12.
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I suppose it's possible in certain areas that band 12 may be the only LTE available. In that case I would say you need it.

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Aside from better coverage in buildings, we don't need band 12.
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People like myself would benefit from it, I don't have at home wifi and I pretty much use hotspot for everything. I use about 100 gigs a month with the T-Mobile $80 plan and the service in my house is not so great. As soon as I step outside though.. that's a different story. Most of the time I set my phone next to a window or something to even get decent service. But that's such a hassle. It would be nice to have a strong LTE signal inside my house. Definitely make my life a lot easier.. haha

xrealtalk said:
I use about 100 gigs a month with the T-Mobile $80 plan and the service in my house is not so great.
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Wow. I guess the unlimited is really unlimited.

NCguy said:
Wow. I guess the unlimited is really unlimited.
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Lol netflix and youtube adds up. You're not suppose to be able to tether more than I think 15 gigs with the $80 plan
but for some reason whenever I stream youtube or netflix or even play online on my PS4 it just counts as my regular data.
And even sometimes when I use the hotspot on my computer it doesn't actually count towards it. I think it might be because I use chrome.
But in my opinion why pay extra for home internet when I could have all in one with my phone.

I work in a cave. I rely on wifi calling. This was a huge letdown last year with the nexus 6. And I don't think band 12 will ever get me service in the caves. Ha

At least it came to the N6. Took them 4-5 months longer than they anticipated, but hey it laid the framework for the 6P to have it baked in.
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I work in a cave. I rely on wifi calling. This was a huge letdown last year with the nexus 6. And I don't think band 12 will ever get me service in the caves. Ha
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With the 5X WiFi calling and VoLTE worked out of the box. Band 12 does not work yet but given the hardware supports it I imagine it will only require a software update one T-Mobile finishes the certification process.

On reddit AMA, a google rep said band 12 would be functioning by ship date. Seeing as the 6P has been shipping has anyone been able to confirm band 12 support?

Bohemus said:
On reddit AMA, a google rep said band 12 would be functioning by ship date. Seeing as the 6P has been shipping has anyone been able to confirm band 12 support?
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Mine arrives tomorrow. I'm not in a band 12 area. Is there any way to confirm otherwise?

Is WiFi calling supposed to work on the prepaid 5gb plan. If I activate the option it shows WiFi calling in quick settings but I can't make calls or texts.

i have volte on Att

Dont know if this is known. When I tried this originally my phone showed up as h+ during all phone calls. It now shows lte+ and the has picked up speed browsing while on phone calls. So ymmv

Yea, no voLTE for me on ATT

Idk why volte matters but it is available on TMobile you just have to enable it manually.

OcazPrime said:
Idk why volte matters but it is available on TMobile you just have to enable it manually.
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Better call quality and better voice coverage if it's an area where ATT doesn't have HSPA on 850Mhz or an LTE only site..... Just tried on mine, still HSPA for voice.

darvondoom said:
Dont know if this is known. When I tried this originally my phone showed up as h+ during all phone calls. It now shows late+ and the has picked up speed browsing while on phone calls. So ymmv
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Did you do anything special to your phone to get that to work?

How did you get this to work?
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THEGAMEPLAY94 said:
Did you do anything special to your phone to get that to work?
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I have a LG G6 IMEI on my account. I then enabled the magisk module. I will say the VoLTE icon never goes away.

Early reviews on Verizon??

Just wondering how this phone is working on Verizon. Mainly in regards to download speeds when off WiFi.
Many reviews showed almost half of what fully compatible phones get.
Wondering what you all are seeing.

mpetruzz said:
Just wondering how this phone is working on Verizon. Mainly in regards to download speeds when off WiFi.
Many reviews showed almost half of what fully compatible phones get.
Wondering what you all are seeing.
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So i have not had a chance to check download speeds, so far so good but no actual numbers yet. I cannot receive sms messages. Phone calls, LTE and sending texts is ok, spent the last 2 hours with a tech, they are unaware of the new phone so they are not much help. Came from a Pixel 2 XL pulled sim and switched, and boom issues....

six5alive said:
So i have not had a chance to check download speeds, so far so good but no actual numbers yet. I cannot receive sms messages. Phone calls, LTE and sending texts is ok, spent the last 2 hours with a tech, they are unaware of the new phone so they are not much help. Came from a Pixel 2 XL pulled sim and switched, and boom issues....
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I'd call again and specifically request a ""CDMA-less" option for your SIM card/line. I get mine tomorrow and if I'm unable to receive SMS then that's what I'll have to do.

Darriousx said:
I'd call again and specifically request a ""CDMA-less" option for your SIM card/line. I get mine tomorrow and if I'm unable to receive SMS then that's what I'll have to do.
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I just read through another thread. He did have me do the *#*#INFO#*#* option and we played around with different networks. I should have read the other thread first though, giving it a try now!

six5alive said:
I just read through another thread. He did have me do the *#*#INFO#*#* option and we played around with different networks. I should have read the other thread first though, giving it a try now!
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I've read that as well... If you get into the options you just need to select LTE only under network type and texting should work.
I'm doing some download test now with my pixel 3 for comparison.

It's such a weird that that the phone is approved on Verizon yet, cannot receive SMS.
Anyone on Verizon waiting for this and feeling the sense of doom?

Having no issues on Verizon so far. Everything works
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mpetruzz said:
Just wondering how this phone is working on Verizon. Mainly in regards to download speeds when off WiFi.
Many reviews showed almost half of what fully compatible phones get.
Wondering what you all are seeing.
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Getting great speeds on Verizon for me.

nrage23 said:
Getting great speeds on Verizon for me.
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which plan do you have?
Also, have those with txt or sms issues checked APN settings? i have a feeling that is the culprit.

kitcostantino said:
which plan do you have?
Also, have those with txt or sms issues checked APN settings? i have a feeling that is the culprit.
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It is a shared data plan for my company. The problem is CDMA_LESS provisioning. It seems some 6T IMEI numbers are not in the Verizon system which is probably the biggest problem.

Everything works except receiving sms. Sim came from Pixel 3 XL.
Have rebooted, factory reset, cleared app cache as well as cache in recovery. Sim works fine back in Pixel 3. Chat was no help.

We already have a thread with same topic: Feeling about the 6t on Verizon?
Please continue your discussion there. Thanks.