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Small review on the camera on the Note 2 vs iPhone 4

I have decided to do a little comparison test with the Galaxy note 2 and my old iPhone 4. I have only recently come aboard the good ship Android, so I am still finding my way around. Although I fully understand that the camera does not make or break the phone, for me it is one of the features that I rely on now and again.
I love taking a picture with my SLR but there are times when you cannot use the SLR, or times when you do not want to take it out so for me the camera is something I use. If it had been my sole requirement i would have probably chosen the Nokia 808 Pureview, but Nokia decided to cripple their phones using their chosen software - but that's is another debate.
I didn’t want to do a tremendous amount of testing so I decided to use the stock apps on both phones. I have paid a little more detail to the Note 2 with looking at the normal picture setting and the low light function. I may use another application on the note as the standard camera app is not the best.
I placed a book, a battery and a sound card in my photo booth. The reason for these items was to get something with a plain colour (the book) something that is small but has a little bit of detail (battery) and something that has a lot of detail (sound card). All tests were conducted indoors, nothing outdoors as of yet.
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From both images you can see there is a definite difference. The iPhones image has a little more ‘viberance’ to it. Overall the colour on the iPhone looks better overall whereas the note 2 image looks a little washed out, however this is purely subjective and I like my photos to have a little more saturation. When viewing photos on the AMOLED screen they do look incredibly vibrant, however, on a normal monitor they do not. What is quite interesting is that the file size of the iPhone 4 image is actually larger than that of the 8 mega pixel file form the Note 2. This could be for a number of reasons; one could be the amount of sharpening applied in the processing, another could be the amount of saturation the software adds to give it a little more ‘zing’.
When testing the sharpness and detail of a camera most magazines tend to do 100% crops showing how much detail can be resolved. The comparisons have been done below.
iPhone first, then Note 2.
Crop with low light mode enabled
From this quick demo you can see that there is a slight difference between the iPhone and the Samsung photos. Personally I don’t think its hardware related, I’m pretty sure that it is software related. I am going on the browse for some add free, free camera software and take a few photos with that.
Once again I would like to stress that this is just an indoor shot, and I have simply not had time to do any outdoor shots. Maybe I will try some on the weekend and report back then.
What do you lot think?

Like yourself it seems, photography is a big hobby of mine and whilst I use a DSLR normally too, I'm more than happy to have my Note 2 with me for quick snaps.
Looking at your test shots, I'd say overall there's not much between them.
iPhone is definitely more vibrant, but the Note 2 shots look more natural. Looking at the uncropped shots, the Note 2 seems to give a clearer image but when viewed at 100% the iPhone seems to have captured slightly more detail. I'd say the Note 2 controls noise better, especially with low light mode. Even without low light mode the Note 2 seems to use more noise control than the iPhone. The downside to this is that more noise control can lead to softer shots, which is why the iPhone shots looks a touch sharper, if a little grainy.
Could all just be my eyes though
Random fact... the Note 2 was originally meant to ship with a 13MP Sony sensor, but Sony couldn't produce enough in time to meet Samsung's deadline so instead it shipped with an 8MP sensor. As you probably know, more MP doesn't always mean a better image as cramming more pixels on a small sensor means each pixel can capture less light, but it would have been interesting to see what the images would have been like had it got the 13MP sensor.

I really wish nokia would have licensed their Pureview tech to Samsung. Would make it a little better.

Though the GS2 and the GN2 both have an 8MP camera, I find the GN2's camera far superior. I suspect this may have something to do with the faster CPU, but not sure. I have used both extensively.

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I really wish nokia would have licensed their Pureview tech to Samsung. Would make it a little better.
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I really wish Nokia would produce android devices as well...
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The iPhone clearly takes sharper images in this comparison, at the expense of noise. Contrast appears to be much better with the iPhone as well, the GN2 photos look a little 'washed out'. Colours are more vibrant with the iPhone as well but perhaps too much?

A semi pro photographer here, hobby too. I never liked any cell phone's camera to be honest. But when I had my C905, things were little better. It had an impressive camera, almost replaced my Ixus for now and then, here and there shots. Then I got the Satio. Another good one. Then don't know what happened, I stepped into Samsung! My first Sammy was a i8910, it had a good camera. So I thought let's continue with Samsung. Next was Wave S8500, I didn't buy it for camera anyway. Then I got the infamous SII. Well after using it for more than year, I can say I was 'fairly' happy with it. Now, Note 2, I don't know, right from the first shot, till now, I DO NOT like this camera, how the photos are appearing, are below average in my eyes.
It's always about 'post software processing' in a mobile camera. A tiny sensor can never produce great photos. So it all matters how the photo is being processed after taking it via the camera firmware provided. That's where a brand plays it tricks. Most of them have Sony's sensor, so talking about hardware is meaningless. Now, here in Note 2, the post processing seems either to be not full or poorly done. Optimizing a photo is bad! An average user, who really would care about the 'background' processes, all they will see the ultimate photo, and there Note 2 fails. Photos turn out grainy, with noise. The biggest letdown is the led flash. At night, in parties, when it's dark, and you don't have your SLR or it's not the place for it, of course you'll need flash. The flash is terribly weak, and badly spread.
Anyway, writing too much, I'm short, after owning 7 or 8 high end cell phones, with their average camera, this Note 2 camera is the most disappointing in my eyes.
However, I don't give a damn, I always (you know what I mean) carry my 350 or D90 (yeah, I know, they are average DSLR), so I'd not bother much about this, BUT not everyone is like me or like OP, for them a 700$ mobile phone should provide 'fairly good' output, where this device, F A I L S.
Now, one thing you see, I really won't bother by some fanboys quoting my comment and say otherwise, knowing I've spent my hard time and money, for more than a decade behind photography. So thanks to them in advance anyway
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The main issue comes down to the camera using iso 800 on auto mode in many scenes, i.e indoors, which is just bizarre. Set it to a lower value manually and the graininess gets a lot better.
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If you want more vibrant colours in the settings select SCN/Panorama.

[PHOTOS] OnePlus One user photo and video discussion thread

This is the OnePlus One user photo and camera discussion thread
Camera features:
Image sensor: Sony BSI Exmor IMX214 CMOS, 1/3.06" sensor size
Lens: F2.0, 6-element auto-focus system
Maximum photo resolution: 4160x3120, 13 megapixels
Front facing camera: 5 megapixels w/80º wide angle
Maximum video resolution: 3840x2160 = 4k at 30FPS, 1920x1080 at 60FPS, 1280x720p at 120FPS
Features: HDR, panorama, image stabilization, face detection, tap to focus, geo-tagging, face-detection
The official OnePlus One camera samples
For more info, full size and EXIF, please visit the OnePlus website here: http://oneplus.net/one#features

If this photos are true i can only say " Its Amazing great!! "
Cheers

xenix96 said:
If this photos are true i can only say " Its Amazing great!! "
Cheers
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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.

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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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As soon as the first users here own a device, this thread will be flooded with shots, I'm sure...

Not my picture but this was my favourite from some of the ones I saw from preproduction models.
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I certainly hope that with real world conditions it can deliver quality like shown above.

The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.

Jishnu Sur™ said:
The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
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Are you going to be picking up this device? I don't care much for cameras but this caught my eye and since you're on here I'm even more excited about the camera.
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FuMMoD said:
Are you going to be picking up this device? I don't care much for cameras but this caught my eye and since you're on here I'm even more excited about the camera.
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Hello Sir !
Nice to see you here too..I'm trying to get this device from Europe somehow.. Seems too good to be true! What interests me is the IMX214 sensor lol..I really need that system dump too!

Jishnu Sur™ said:
Hello Sir !
Nice to see you here too..I'm trying to get this device from Europe somehow.. Seems too good to be true! What interests me is the IMX214 sensor lol..I really need that system dump too!
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You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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Jishnu Sur™ said:
The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
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A good Sony IMX sensor with a proper lens and image signal processor can bring wonderful images, see iPhone 5S. Which is why I'm puzzled to this day how come Sony's own Xperia Z, Z1 and even some Z2 shots look so over-processed, showing some lens inconsistencies and some SW errors too. Both the Oppo Find 7 and the OnePlus One launch with the new IMX214, and I'm curious how will they fare compared to other Exmors, the Lumias and ISOCELL. So far it is promising.

FuMMoD said:
You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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Cool ! I'll start arranging the money then! hahahaha .. Yes that would be awesome. This thing is surely worth the price they are asking.
Off topic : Thanks are over, cant press Sorry! :crying:
BoneXDA said:
A good Sony IMX sensor with a proper lens and image signal processor can bring wonderful images, see iPhone 5S. Which is why I'm puzzled to this day how come Sony's own Xperia Z, Z1 and even some Z2 shots look so over-processed, showing some lens inconsistencies and some SW errors too. Both the Oppo Find 7 and the OnePlus One launch with the new IMX214, and I'm curious how will they fare compared to other Exmors, the Lumias and ISOCELL. So far it is promising.
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I agree with you on the Sony Devices part. I have seen that actually. Sony likes to complicate stuff, i really don't know why. Where they can have a easy way to fi thing, they go the other way. Trust me they have 3-4 different apps for the camera. You tell me who in 2014 does that?! lol .. And I read an article, the ISOCELL vs the IMX179 comparison. (Here). The IMX was better
I really need to have a look at the Lumia's though, they have almost DSLR type quality..

The S5 camera is much, MUCH better than the Nexus 5 to be frank. But the IMX214 is a new generation Sony sensor.

aren't you guys a bit scared about the camera app?
i've tried few phones with cyanogen camera app and they were all a lot worst than the original rom camera app (samsung devices especially)
at least this time they are working on their hardware so i really hope it'll be a lot better

Nirael said:
aren't you guys a bit scared about the camera app?
i've tried few phones with cyanogen camera app and they were all a lot worst than the original rom camera app (samsung devices especially)
at least this time they are working on their hardware so i really hope it'll be a lot better
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their camera on this phone is completely new and we have seen the pictures right? i dont think it will suck

BoneXDA said:
The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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if picture #3 is indeed the correct photo here low light looks amazing
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/contest-guess-the-oneplus-one-photo.368/
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FuMMoD said:
You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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if you do that the community may have to buy you another nexus to have you keep developing for it :crying: "for the community"

jeremykersh said:
if picture #3 is indeed the correct photo here low light looks amazing
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Remember that these pictures are taken directly from OP's press page—they might have been doctored/photoshopped. On the other hand, I'd be amazed if the camera actually was this good.

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Remember that these pictures are taken directly from OP's press page—they might have been doctored/photoshopped. On the other hand, I'd be amazed if the camera actually was this good.
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Depending on scene and light conditions, today's smartphones can take impressive photos, see some form my S5 review. As far as dynamic range and per pixel sharpness, 1+1 fits right in among the best of Android photography based on what I've seen so far.

Some of these look really good.
She's a cutie too.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-camera-samples-from-the-OnePlus-One-appear_id55043#32-

She is not that bad

Mate 9 camera... AMAAAAZING!!!!

Just got my Mate 9, and I chose it for a number of reasons over the competition (Samsung S8+) and one of those reasons was the camera.
Yes of course the S8+ will have a better camera in many ways but the one thing no smartphone can do properly in moving targets like children (the reason I wanted it) is bokeh.
So of course the first thing I tried when I got it was wide aperture mode to see how good it actually is - is it a gimmick? a novelty? not that good? is the rest of the camera so awful that it negates this?
The answer is it is ABSOLUTELY BLOODY BRILLIANT. I have an expensive DSLR with an expensive lens to get those nice wide aperture shots but oh my God this thing is in a different league! We went down to the lake yesterday with our daughter and I was snapping away in wide aperture mode. Got back home and spent an hour or so with my wife going through all the shots altering the bokeh effect RETROSPECTIVELY. The results are purely STUNNING - like my DLSR if not better. But the real clincher is the fact that you can alter the bokeh effect as you wish, chaneg the amount, change what is in focus... print out two photos of the same scene but with different bokeh focus.... all of this done RETROSPECTIVELY, something I can never do with the DSLR.
I jsut don't see the need to take my big ehavy DSLR out anymore now I have this. AMAZING!
Yes the low light performance of the smallish aperture is not amazing, but then no smartphone I've come across is good enough in this regard anyway for me... and it's a small price to pay really for this amazing effect.
It really should be marketed more!
I'll do a proper review at some point I guess, but it's also worth mentioning that whilst colour reproduction isn't brilliant, the screen is phenomenally crisp and bright and looks sharper and clearer than my quad HD.
And the fingerprint sensor - OH MY GOD this is the quickest most amazing sensor EVER. I soppted usign the sensor on my old phone as too unreliable but this is like some sort of voodoo magic. AMAZING!
The feel - the most premium phone I have EVER had the pleasure of holding. EVER. Beats any Samsung or iPhone hands down. It's like the Bentley of phones in your hand.
Battery - I've not charged it in two days despite having everything on and taking photos and editing them loads. Does it run on magic?
Huawei in my mind have blown the competition out of the water with this phone. NOTHING can come close. I just look forward to the next gen which will hopefully have larger aperture cameras for the low light performance then it will pretty much be the perfect phone (if they sort out the sports GPS issue).
Welcome to the big league Huawei!!!

Thank you for sharing!
Maybe you should make a "the Huawei mate 9 camera and how to use it" tutorial or ebook (ebook if you want to earn some money)
I am not the pro, so a tutorial would be helpful (better a video) how to use the camera up to 100%!
On my Note 3 I have installed 20-25 camera apps and picture apps, here on my new Mate 9 I don't know if any other app works?
I have the feeling that any other app for the camera is just 10 steps backwards!
Again thank you for sharing this story!
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FootSlave said:
Thank you for sharing!
Maybe you should make a "the Huawei mate 9 camera and how to use it" tutorial or ebook (ebook if you want to earn some money)
I am not the pro, so a tutorial would be helpful (better a video) how to use the camera up to 100%!
On my Note 3 I have installed 20-25 camera apps and picture apps, here on my new Mate 9 I don't know if any other app works?
I have the feeling that any other app for the camera is just 10 steps backwards!
Again thank you for sharing this story!
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Thanks FS and you're very welcome.
I'm the most novice of users when it comes to cameras so I'm in no position to do any tutorials but that raises a good point because if someone as novice as me can use it so well it just further goes to show how incredible this thing is!
Press the aperture button and then all shots you take can be bokeh'd afterwards. So elegant it's unbelievable. Good old German engineering! :good:

Yeah, I'm from Germany and KNOW Leica
Even found a Article (in german) named something like: "Huawei Mate 9: So you get everything out of the Camera"
Link: http://www.giga.de/smartphones/huaw...te-9-so-holst-du-alles-aus-der-kamera-heraus/
I think there should also be a really good one in english to follow it!

https://youtu.be/93_2TbuM6Ew
You may like this OP
Very very comprehensive

It's an excellent phone.
Very heavy in the hand though... like you said... Bentley
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FootSlave said:
Yeah, I'm from Germany and KNOW Leica
Even found a Article (in german) named something like: "Huawei Mate 9: So you get everything out of the Camera"
Link: http://www.giga.de/smartphones/huaw...te-9-so-holst-du-alles-aus-der-kamera-heraus/
thanks.... and google traslates the article to english ...
I think there should also be a really good one in english to follow it!
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hanks.... and google translates the article to english ...

Interesting... I bought the mate 9 because of the camera but i am totally disappointed. Horrible photo quality, totally oversharpened and things which are wide away or in the corner of the pic completely blurred.
Before the 700€ mate 9 i had a 350€ allview x2 xtreme (blu pure xl) which had a much much better camera. So for photos i use my old phone again because i just HATE the look of the mate 9 photos, they hurt in my eyes.

Good to hear other viewpoints about that!
In my case I just can say that no other camera impressed me like this one!
Maybe it help you if you also read that article (translated) or search for a tutorial on how to get everything out of that Camera?
Or maybe the "Standard" Settings aren't that good as they say, and you (we) should start to use the PRO Modus?

Hi, looks like you're a professional. Is it possible if you share some of your shots using the Mate 9? I'd like to see the photos from someone who understands photography: D

The camera hw and sw on the Mate 9 is really amazing. It gives perfect control about the exposure, focus and shutter release are fast. Additionally there are some nice filters to choose from. Pictures get sharp and have good dynamic range for a smartphone camera. Bear in mind that this is a 12 MP sensor, I think it has pretty good low light performance but lacks some resolution. I see it as advantage.
If the results are really disappointing, you can try to delete data and cache of the camera app to reset the settings - or contact service.

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The overall look of the photos ist good, but if you zoom in, the photos from my mate 9 are just total ****, like from a normal cheap chinese 200€ phone camera. Really dissapointing.
And i DO understand something about photography. I also set focus manually before every shot because if i just press the camera button the photos are completely trash. But as you see, even with manual focus, it's not very good.

I have attached some shots I made on a walk on Poel Island, Timmendorf harbour.
Edit: As I see now, the images seem to get compressed massively during / after upload so attaching them here results in a hefty loss of quality.
Edit2: I decided not to leave them here, shrinked to 256kb each, as they do no justice to the Mate 9. Sorry.

NikiFue said:
Interesting... I bought the mate 9 because of the camera but i am totally disappointed. Horrible photo quality, totally oversharpened and things which are wide away or in the corner of the pic completely blurred.
Before the 700€ mate 9 i had a 350€ allview x2 xtreme (blu pure xl) which had a much much better camera. So for photos i use my old phone again because i just HATE the look of the mate 9 photos, they hurt in my eyes.
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I guess it depends on your expectations. I researched a lot too and realised its low light limitations and how the s7 or s8 would be better in that regard and technically some other cams on phones may take better photos. However I felt the difference in quality between different phones was minimal compared to phones and a real camera. Bit sharper here, better colour there, low light slightly better etc etc. Im not fussed.
But the thing that set this camera apart head and shoulders above any phone camera without any argument is the INCREDIBLE bokeh effect. Unlike other pathetic attempts by other phones this uses its two lenses elegantly and ingeniously. Everyone ive showed picture to has been mesmerised by the quality saying stuff like "this looks professional" "this is like a poster" etc without knowing why. Then i explain bokeh. And the fact that you can adjust bokeh AFTER the shot has been taken, well that's just a dream. Its exactly what i bought this thing for and it's delivered beautifully. To me it doesn't just blast phone competition out the water it beats my DSLR too because of this retrospective editing.
If i was expecting a good standard camera sure i might be a little disappointed but i knew what i wanted this for. The standard cam is id say above average. But the bokeh is simply genius. I've never had soooo many professional phenomenal photos of my baby daughter and ive only haf it 3 days! My wife even said last night "its a shame we didn't have this from when she was born."

applehater00 said:
I guess it depends on your expectations. I researched a lot too and realised its low light limitations and how the s7 or s8 would be better in that regard and technically some other cams on phones may take better photos. However I felt the difference in quality between different phones was minimal compared to phones and a real camera. Bit sharper here, better colour there, low light slightly better etc etc. Im not fussed.
But the thing that set this camera apart head and shoulders above any phone camera without any argument is the INCREDIBLE bokeh effect. Unlike other pathetic attempts by other phones this uses its two lenses elegantly and ingeniously. Everyone ive showed picture to has been mesmerised by the quality saying stuff like "this looks professional" "this is like a poster" etc without knowing why. Then i explain bokeh. And the fact that you can adjust bokeh AFTER the shot has been taken, well that's just a dream. Its exactly what i bought this thing for and it's delivered beautifully. To me it doesn't just blast phone competition out the water it beats my DSLR too because of this retrospective editing.
If i was expecting a good standard camera sure i might be a little disappointed but i knew what i wanted this for. The standard cam is id say above average. But the bokeh is simply genius. I've never had soooo many professional phenomenal photos of my baby daughter and ive only haf it 3 days! My wife even said last night "its a shame we didn't have this from when she was born."
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You're right, macro shots and the bokeh effect are great but they are irrelevant for me, i don't use it. I only use my phone camera for normal photos from landscapes, cities, buildings, streets... If i had known that the mate 9 camera is only good for bokeh effect photos and normal photos are only average, i wouldn't have bought that phone and this annoys me now. So much waste of money for a camera which is only specialised on features i do not use anyway.

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You're right, macro shots and the bokeh effect are great but they are irrelevant for me, i don't use it. I only use my phone camera for normal photos from landscapes, cities, buildings, streets... If i had known that the mate 9 camera is only good for bokeh effect photos and normal photos are only average, i wouldn't have bought that phone and this annoys me now. So much waste of money for a camera which is only specialised on features i do not use anyway.
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Yeah that makes sense mate.
According to pro reviewers you really need to use pro mode to get the most out of the cam and then you get pretty good results, regardless of bokeh. But I'm not interested in that (yet)

The wide aperture lens pics I get with this phone are unreal. People have also asked me if I am a professional photographer and I laugh. Just as novice as the next guy.
Also in the right lighting it takes outstanding pics on normal settings. Way better than my s7edge.
Now in low light or certain lighting, it's not that good. My s7edge auto adjusts and focuses way faster and produces a better image. Even my note 5 is better. I tend not to take photos during those moments if I can.
Also any camera phone will lose qaility when you zoom way in. Invest in a Dslr if you are worried about that.
Camera is outstanding overall and I was skeptical at 1st, but when in the right lighting.... Just Wow!
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Just bought mine and fell in love instantly with it. Altough I think Moto X-Force has the best camera EVER, Mate 9 isn't far behind.
Went to a rock concert a few days ago and took excelent photos from the stage (10x zoom) and some videos as well.
Still haven´t tried landscapes or nature, but so far, so good!

ChrisFrenzel said:
Just bought mine and fell in love instantly with it. Altough I think Moto X-Force has the best camera EVER, Mate 9 isn't far behind.
Went to a rock concert a few days ago and took excelent photos from the stage (10x zoom) and some videos as well.
Still haven´t tried landscapes or nature, but so far, so good!
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what about sound in video recordings?

Excellent as well...
I had just bought the phone and didnt know the possibilities.´ - there is an 'enhance audio' option, very useful!

How to make Mi MIX camera digestible

Hi folks,
i wanted to share some of my insights from 2 days of usage of Mi Mix. As for most, camera was biggest letdown. I knew it was bad, but actual experience exceeded all expectations After some digging and thanks to some threads in xda forum i found a way to make quite decent photos with little sacrifice.
So few things first:
- I'm on rooted LineageOS with Camera API2 unlocked (to be honest i didn't have to unlock it - i suppose it is unlocked with LineageOS? )
- As some noticed before, the hardware isn't that bad, it's software that spoils photos with ugly postprocessing in most cases.
- I'm using Snap Camera HDR - i tried most of software in Google Play and only in it found something like Low Light Mode - if someone know software with similar feature - pls let me know .
So what i did is basically turning off all useless postpro in Snap Camera (sharpenning, denoising, post-processing, anti-banding) and enabled Low Light Mode in all photos . From what i understand i takes series of photos and compare them to make one clean photo. You can choose how many frames to take. More you take the better picture you will get but it will also take more time to process. The processing time is biggest letdown of this method. You can't take another photo during processing so burst mode won't work. I found 5 to be best compromise - it enhances photo noticeably and takes only 1-3s to process. If u can spare more time between photos u can crank it up to 32 - with that count i had really impressive results even with ISO around 1500-2000 but the processing can take 10-30s. Another letdown as you can probably guess is that you can have some issues with moving objects - the darker it gets, the more blurred will they be (slower shutter for every frame).
Now to main dish, examples
All photos taken in 16Mpx without flash or any tripod, all taken form hand for real life comparison. As photo is processed in Snap Camera the jpg lose photo metadata so i only write that data for stock camera, for Snap Camera i write how many frames was set for Low Light Mode. I know it's not very scientific but i take photos in both softwares almost at the same time, in same light conditions and on basic auto modes.
Stock camera on left, Snap Camera on right - I'm posting 100% crops, ill post full pictures if there will be some demand
1. [ISO 2500 1/15s] [5 LLM] - far objects in bad indoor lighting
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2. [ISO 1250 1/17s] [5 LLM] - some fine details - fur, fabric, wood texture in mediocre light
3. [ISO 1600 1/17s] [5 LLM] - small details in mediocre light
4. [ISO 160 1/33s] [32 LLM] - outdoor in good light - i took more frames to show some extra foliage details
5. [ISO 6400 1/15s] [32 LLM] - most hardcore example, very bad indoor lighting. Snap Camera algorithm made some wired border around Marshall logo, but apart form that great job.
I hope my post will help some of you with Mi Mix camera, please post your own experiences with camera - maybe there is even better solution for our phones

Download Google Camer Hdr+ from OnePlus 5 thread and all your problems will solved you wont need to do any kinds of settings and quality of photos will be much much better!!(i past this step that you are now months ago and i had tried hundred type of apps out there )

Jinthegodstyle said:
Download Google Camer Hdr+ from OnePlus 5 thread and all your problems will solved you wont need to do any kinds of settings and quality of photos will be much much better!!(i past this step that you are now months ago and i had tried hundred type of apps out there )
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Big Thx, i will most certainly try it:good:

I'm considering getting this device, but the camera is the main thing holding me back (besides price for last year's SoC...)
Does the Google HDR camera make this acceptable? I don't necessarily need the BEST camera, but I'd prefer relatively fast rate of capture and at least mediocre detail. The initial reviews of the device's camera make it seem like utter trash.
Also consider I want to root the device & install something Lineage based, most devices you sacrifice camera quality when you go this route (because of lack of API 2 / hardware source).

crash4fun said:
I'm considering getting this device, but the camera is the main thing holding me back (besides price for last year's SoC...)
Does the Google HDR camera make this acceptable? I don't necessarily need the BEST camera, but I'd prefer relatively fast rate of capture and at least mediocre detail. The initial reviews of the device's camera make it seem like utter trash.
Also consider I want to root the device & install something Lineage based, most devices you sacrifice camera quality when you go this route (because of lack of API 2 / hardware source).
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The camera is equally bad regardless what ROM you run

OT. Found this OP5 camera app(proted or something) on AFH by blackterroristh https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617944662

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OT. Found this OP5 camera app(proted or something) on AFH by blackterroristh https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617944662
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Can you link the thread please? I get a parsing error during installation (stock global rom).

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Can you link the thread please? I get a parsing error during installation.
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No idea if there is one for it. As i said I found it on AFH, but works on my mix. Perhaps re-downloading by another browser or app?

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No idea if there is one for it. As i said I found it on AFH, but works on my mix. Perhaps re-downloading by another browser or app?
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Unfortunately no, same with edge on desktop and yandex on mobile. Running rooted stock Global MIUI 8.5.5.0.

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Can you link the thread please? I get a parsing error during installation (stock global rom).
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https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617944662

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https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617944662
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That's the file link, I thought there is a discussion thread where I could ask for help because of the error. I also got parsing error with other ported Google Camera apks featured in XDA news, other 3rd party camera apps work though.

It's not prerequisite to have Nougat ? Stock Global ROM is under Marshmallow...

nr-thunder said:
That's the file link, I thought there is a discussion thread where I could ask for help because of the error. I also got parsing error with other ported Google Camera apks featured in XDA news, other 3rd party camera apps work though.
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Today tried it on Epic 7.11.9 and got the same error. Didn't really invest why.
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It's not prerequisite to have Nougat ? Stock Global ROM is under Marshmallow...
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Perhaps but see my above post. Anyway it's not a ''wow'' app, just saying.

Received the Nightly OTA today, updated to V9.1.1.0 . Now I am on Nougat, the OP5 port linked in this thread works now , other versions of the google camera get installed but will close immediatly. Just tested it in my room and can't say that I see an improvement, maybe when tested outside at daylight. But I use the google camera anyway because I'm using immersive mode + dpi changes which make stock camera working less stable.

Hi. I updated yesterday to V9.1.1.0 via OTA. I tried the OP5 camera and is does a better job in lower light and image stays in better focus then stock camera. Is the OP5 the same as the google HDR camera. If not, is there a version of google hdr camera that works on Mi Mix without root? Also is there there a way to turn on some type of optical stabilization on stock camera. If I hold it really still when snapping pic the image is a lot sharper. It's actually pretty good. Just not practical to take pictures that way.
EDIT: OK. I guess no OIS on Mix...

I got my mi mix a bit more than a month ago coming from a OP3 and I was shocked by the awful camera of the mi mix. Sorry, I have no other words for it.
The op5 APK seems to make it digestible, but it's still not great. I know that for a GREAT camera I should've picked a different phone, but I didn't expect it to be like this.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P30 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?

No sample photo here?
It's hard to find one even in youtube since all attention goes to the Pro version...

On my Channel you can find a review (but in german)
youtube.com/mobilejack

WarVic said:
Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
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Hi. To be honest, camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro is minimal. I own this phone right now as well as Pixel 3 XL. Previously had Mate 20 Pro for 4 month. I expected much better and more consistent shots compared to Mate 20 Pro. But it is not the case here unfortunately. Hit and miss is still the proper description of camera experience. Sure the phone is able to produce really nice photos but heaps of crappy ones popping up too (over-, underexposed, overcontrasted, out of focus...). I wish that P30 would be better than Pixel 3 XL in camera department at least and I'd finally ditch the last one.
At the same time I'd recommend P30 (non-Pro) over Mate 20 Pro due to slightly better (warm) camera tone to my test, more comfortable size, much better fingerprint scanner, flat (!) screen, better speakers (even not stereo ones), headphone jack. Wireless charging can be added for extra $50 via quite nice official Huawei wireless charging case.

P30 Lite cam test

Selfie cam quality seems a bit iffy, says 32MP but more often than not I get a worse quality image than my 8MP selfie cam on the S9 gave, similarity the 40MP setting for the rear cam I can see no difference between 10MP and 40MP, I took a photo across the room of a label on a box, zoomed in on 10MP and 40MP and they were both exactly the same as each other in terms of quality and readability, only difference I see is you lose some options with 40MP such as zoom
Focus seems fairly bad too, it borders my face to say it knows my face is there but when I check the photo it has actually focussed on something behind me or my top or something other than my face, which is slightly OOF compared
In bright sunlight the 10MP rear cam takes great pics, low light is clever but not great quality, seems like Huawei spent too much of their time adding features and gimmicks than actually making sure everything basic worked properly first

That yellowish tint is horrible. When the light is a little bit worse it appears... What is intresting - on ultra wide mode it looks much more normally, no yellow tint, colors look more realistic. My HTC 10 from 2016 do much more realistic shots and the quality is much more stable on its camera. Have you the same look on your cameras?
And imo photos are very unstable, sometimes great, sometimes sucks, low sharpness, yellow tint, candy colors, dont like it. On selfie cam at least it looks very good for me.

I don't know what's wrong with your camera. I have a HTC U11 with GCam installed, (was my previous phone) and i like to compare very often the camera side by side and for daytime they look pretty similar, sometimes i prefer the P30, sometimes U11, but on low light, there's no contest, the P30 is way ahead, as it should be. And for the consistency, we have to accept that the lack of OIS means we have to be a little more careful when we take pictures.

Hey, thanks for answer. Dont know how about u11, but i found in my HTC 10 more softness image, in p30 looks a litttle bit grainy when you zoom photo you made. Have u seen that too? Yeah, in good light the same opinion : one time htc, one time p30. But when im in the building, room etc. p30 begins to give yellow shade. Maybe ill upload some shots later to compare.
In low light sometimes shots loks unreal lighty, but sometimes camera makes perfect job

I uploaded some shots :
First are the night shots : one the most realistic regulated manualy, one in auto, one in night mode - auto and night mode looks so unreal, dont like it.
Next in room : one in auto, one on ultra wide mode which gives much more realistic colors, on auto that yellowish tint.
And shots from work one on auto which gives yellow tints, and one on 3x tele which looks much more realistic (the tiles color) than auto.
Huawei made alot of intrested things, but they didnt paid enough attention and work on main camera in my opinion.
https://ibb.co/QJ2K294 - auto, turned light down manually
https://ibb.co/xYfS0hX - night mode (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/kMmw9WP - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/fGWk39t - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/xXTM5GX - zoom x3
https://ibb.co/pjnXSpN - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/5hVx4k1 - wide-angle

This camera seems to take better shots in monochrome than colour
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?

OIS or not you won't find much if any difference with either of those, they take too much time to process the photo once u press the shutter hence the hit or miss

This is odd. My three years old HTC U11 have IMHO better photo recurrence as P20 PRO (more hits nor miss). Also less images were blurred with U11 like with P20 PRO.

nedalnib said:
Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
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Not so big difference in cameras !
OIS and EIS both both work together for better image processing!
P30 screen size is perfect for me !
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG

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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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witch LG?

hyewiz said:
Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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