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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Nokia 8 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Good.
Colors is natural.

Good, but not so good compared to the Nexus 5X. The photo tends to be a little to dark in the mid-tones, and does not seem to be very sharp.

I think the camera really stinks.
The auto focus is slow, and taking pictures indoors is a waste of time.
Capturing anything moving is hopeless.
Came from a Galaxy S7, and compared to the old Samsung , the Nokia 8 falls apart at least at the camera.

I tried the google camera yesterday and it seems to do a better job than Nokia stock camera. Pictures are sharper and heaps better with auto HDR+ always on.

What settings do you have in goole cam?

Google camera hdr+

Can someone please put few images they shot? (like the park, outdoors on nice weather etc)

There

In low light

Some pictures taken with google camera and some opencamera.
See how google camera app makes wierd stripes on left side of picture.

Awesome thanks for the images, I am not really impressed with them :/, I hopped for something on par with the latest Lumia's dang, well hoping for a miracle (either an update, or Nokia 9) ^^.

I think its compressed quite bit when uploading, i noticed that pics are not same quality.
Looks better when i move it to pc.

simon-sf said:
I think its compressed quite bit when uploading, i noticed that pics are not same quality.
Looks better when i move it to pc.
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Can you please show a very low light photo with long shutter speed? Thanks mate for other photos.

Here you go, dont know why shutter speed did not go longer.

Better one...

Wierd, cant go exposure +1 seconds.
Maybe update will fix that.

Is the long shutter speed hardware limited?

Have a Galxy s6 right now. In a comparison between the Galaxy S6 and the Nokia 8 what would be better in the camera department
If the Indian version had 6GB RAM i would have gotten the phone immediately.

I think i cannot give neutral response for that...i say nokia, as you can see.
The native camera app is not so good but maybe oreo update will fix that i hope.
When using google camera port or opencamera the images are better than honor 8.
2 pics
1 with opencamera
2 google hdr+ zsl

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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Nokia 9 PureView come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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I've been using the light L16 for a long while. I assume it would work the same. Images on the Pure View may render a bit slow "on device" , since it dosent have to be exported into lights Lumen software. I'll see once mines arrives though.

lsmith1981 said:
I've been using the light L16 for a long while. I assume it would work the same. Images on the Pure View may render a bit slow "on device" , since it dosent have to be exported into lights Lumen software. I'll see once mines arrives though.
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Yes, with all the sensor data on it does take a while to merge all the image data. The amount of time varies based on the scene and detail.

Harfainx said:
Yes, with all the sensor data on
it does take a while to merge all the image data. The amount of time varies based on the scene and detail.
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It's instant surprisingly, their software team has done a excellent job on that part. Even though it uses the SD820 and their custom ASIC together, everything works just fine. I'm sure with the SD845 and the ASIC chip, things would work much better on that device.
https://light.co/technology

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It's instant surprisingly, their software team has done a excellent job on that part. Even though it uses the SD820 and their custom ASIC together, everything works just fine. I'm sure with the SD845 and the ASIC chip, things would work much better on that device.
https://light.co/technology
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I meant it takes a while on the Nokia 9 Pureview. I've had everywhere from about 4 seconds, up to 25ish seconds to process a photo.

As I'm eager to get my hands on this device mainly for the capabilities of the camera, is it possible for some of the lucky early owners to share a few RAW files.
At least two people here have it, and we don't have one real-life sample to check out.
I really can't believe there are no real and meaningful reviews for this phone...

here is a sample

bo6o said:
As I'm eager to get my hands on this device mainly for the capabilities of the camera, is it possible for some of the lucky early owners to share a few RAW files.
At least two people here have it, and we don't have one real-life sample to check out.
I really can't believe there are no real and meaningful reviews for this phone...
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Here's three in a wetransfer link. Too big to post DNGs on here. These have quite a bit of good depth data and were fun to edit. Didn't share my edits in this grouping though.
https://we.tl/b-AHQfp0iCcp

Thanks man, can I reuse the link and/or unedited exported with LR images on other forums, to shutdown some huawei fans

I'm amazed by the details, it is really good. Could you share some b/w dng's please? Huawei mate 9 with only one bw sensor took amazing shots , so I'm really curious at what the Nokia 9 can do

More dng samples please
Guys, can you please post more dng samples? outdoors for base iso, indoors for high iso? When I developed the dngs posted here, they are all quite great actually, even at iso 1600. That's the flowers shot. The same flower shot in jpg is quite oversharpened and noisy, with ugly artefacts, dark shadows and blown out highlights that are not present in the jpg. The subway shot is iso 1400, basically noise free. The doughnut shot is iso 208 and man, it is absolutely amazing in terms of both detail and noise. I think the bad quality you see in jpgs is simply bad processing by the nokia camera app. I think that this hardware is capable of great photos. Wondering if SNAP camera HDR app would work on this. Thanks!

mesicm said:
Guys, can you please post more dng samples? outdoors for base iso, indoors for high iso? When I developed the dngs posted here, they are all quite great actually, even at iso 1600. That's the flowers shot. The same flower shot in jpg is quite oversharpened and noisy, with ugly artefacts, dark shadows and blown out highlights that are not present in the jpg. The subway shot is iso 1400, basically noise free. The doughnut shot is iso 208 and man, it is absolutely amazing in terms of both detail and noise. I think the bad quality you see in jpgs is simply bad processing by the nokia camera app. I think that this hardware is capable of great photos. Wondering if SNAP camera HDR app would work on this. Thanks!
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I will try to add some tomorrow. Did some compare shots with the xz3 and a rx100 vi
https://we.tl/t-N9cRshSrlb
If people are interested I can do a bit more in depth comparison

I think the shadow recovery is amazing, almost no noise increase, and this on a phone.
1st photo supplied by @phunkyp , increased the brightness of the dark background in a raw editor.
But i think the general sharpness isn't the best compared with well lit single sensor photos, what do you think? For example in the samples of @stefanve those details in the trees just look strange somehow. But there is definatly a lot to play with in the editor (2nd photo by him). Yes its a bit much.

Here are a couple of extra test shots. 3 files per scene. DNG, JPG from the default camera app and one from the LR camera. The LR shot should be using only one of the 5 camera's so we can see the difference between one vs 5 camera's
https://we.tl/t-deZimhn8Sz
Personally I don't think that the camera has on point focus (maybe that is why they use very aggressive sharpening in de jpegs) but overall I think it is really good for a phone, lots of detail and light. This is one of the view phones (that I used) that gives me usable photo's the other one being the Lumia 950 XL and the Mate 9 (but only in b&w)

Is Lightroom not capable to get raw from the Nokia cam? That would be interesting to compare, Lightroom single Cam dng vs Lightroom HDR dng vs Nokia 5 cam dng.

No sadly , it is not possible to save the raw data with de LR camera app.

edit wrong post.

Here are some pictures with Nokia 9. All photos was taken with Auto mode and someone with bokeh or monochrome with raw. I'm not a professional of photography
https://photos.app.goo.gl/56KAUxN8mWk78qfL6
Enviado desde mi MI 5s mediante Tapatalk

I took a few pictures and I am not a professional photographer either, but hope it will help you. Nice weekend
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kgqrWZcYMxRYKGxm9
I will be free from work tomorrow. Then I go outside with the children and take pictures with this phone. I will then place them in the same folder.

Love the monochrome mode.

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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Poco X2 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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Day time outdoor photography.
High res photos from the 64MP camera results in photos sized over 50MB (not uploaded here).

Low light outdoor photography.
Captured during an evening stroll around 6.30-7 PM.

Stock cam + LR

Stability
Does poco x2 have ois and eis?

AravOptimist said:
Does poco x2 have ois and eis?
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No OIS. EIS yes

Night Mode on stock camera is unacceptable. Noisy, rough, lacking detail, and artifacts everywhere. I use Google Camera for almost everything except Video recording(because gcam port is not fully working yet). The sideways photo is from the stock camera.

8 out of 10
Camera hardware is there but software is lacking.
Image processing is good but it struggles in low-light.
Google camera shows what the hardware is capable of and it's very good. Front camera is also good, but still struggles in low-light. Also, beauty mode is on by default which is just ridiculous.

Yeah i have forgotten that stock application even exists. Lat time I was using miui, tha cam also had contrast and sharpness. It doesn't now. Gcam is quite good at pushing the limits

Which gcam are you all using?

Huge noise in night time shots unless you have a tripod and your object is stable.
I had a bad experience while clicking photos at my friend's birthday. I tried every settings to capture low light photos but every photo has noise and faces are blur like hell. Very disappointed.

SPWR1989 said:
GCAM SAMPLES can't remember what version
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These pictures are great! Are you using the original stock rom or any custom rom?
The day I bought the phone, we took some pictures are we were very very happy with the picture quality. Then after one month I installed custom rom (EvolutionX / crDroid) and I noticed that the picture quality is not that great, not satisfactory . It doesn't matter which camera app I use, the result is not satisfactory.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG V60 ThinQ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I'm not a great photographer but the photos I've taken have been ok. The main complaint I have is how badly the lens skews the image on the edges. It's pretty bad.

I wish the world was in a better state and I wasn't sick so I could take more pic samples.

Wish this had spot metering. But LG as usual has had software that takes away from a good camera.
I love the results when using in the manual mode. The histogram is a big plus.

My main complaint is even upright my photos seem to end up being rotated.

LG Software still struggling "mosaic" post-production below average light condition, but night mode is quite good! Not app, just effects. Right now I'm testing some Gcam distros, from yesterday - UltraCVM prepared for Mi 9T (both of them works with 64mpx sensors).

Is there anyway to use 3d photos like on Facebook?

The main reason for the V60 is awesome manual photo/video controls. The phone does well for auto modes in good lighting, but they are still over aggressive with noise reduction that causes the water color effect (also apparent in the V20 I had prior, so this just how LG wants it). HDR works well, but doesn't always get the white balance right and wish I could use it while also having some manual control. I also wish they would've went with a straight up 16MP main sensor. Shooting at 64MP is no better than the binned 16MP option, and often worse.
I did "stress test" the camera the other day. I prefer long exposure photos and these were from a couple nights ago. I was limited on time and location, so pardon the motion blur in the light painting photos. But still... Let's see Gcam do this!

Couldn't you tell what sensor V60 camera is based on? Thnx

64 MP shots in bright outdoor settings are amazing on this phone. Definitely an underrated camera by most reviewers imo.

Random shots + Basic Snapseed correction.

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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia 5 II come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Expect chromatic aberration in photos (widest lens), or I'd say CA in photos of X5 ii is a bit easier to detect than my previous Galaxy S10. Minimum focus distance is also quite long... also compared to my S10.
On the other hand, I like the Pro photo mode with AE-L and 3:2 aspect ratio option.

lokto7 said:
Expect chromatic aberration in photos (widest lens), or I'd say CA in photos of X5 ii is a bit easier to detect than my previous Galaxy S10. Minimum focus distance is also quite long... also compared to my S10.
On the other hand, I like the Pro photo mode with AE-L and 3:2 aspect ratio option.
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well: look at this:
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-5-camera-test-1167092/
in the HDR chapter:
"Next, I want to draw your attention to something in the following two sample sets. The Google Pixel 5 suffers badly from chromatic aberration (the purple hue seen in between the tree leaves). The Huawei P40 Pro has the same problem, but the effect is limited to the upper left corner of the lens. The Galaxy and Xperia handsets have no such issue. Once again, shadow noise rears its head in the Pixel 5’s shots"

Please see an example here https://we.tl/t-mLwMGMoF9H

ok, ultra wide angle lens?- I guess the test I linked from was for the standard lens

Picture is very good-great, the colors are natural, no over-sharpening, the noise is natural, but, it can sometimes happen to overexpose the image, sony did a great job for the camera..
Overall, camera software requires some minor tweaks to be top notch.. The best is, no pixel (finally) binning, true 12mp, large pixel size.

very good photo quality!
zujko said:
Picture is very good-great, the colors are natural, no over-sharpening, the noise is natural, but, it can sometimes happen to overexpose the image, sony did a great job for the camera..
Overall, camera software requires some minor tweaks to be top notch.. The best is, no pixel (finally) binning, true 12mp, large pixel size.
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I totally quote. I am happy to find a similar look / color rendition to my Sony Full Frame mirrorless. Photo pro app does a great job, especially in "normal" (not too low) light conditions. Color rendition is natural. After Huaweis Mate (only missing the b/w sensor of the P20pro!) this Xperia is fresh air.

With good Light the Camera make good Photos, but i really have Focus issues for Quick Fotos. Its not that im Shaking or something but at 1 of 3 Photos im must repeat and then the Focus is about right. As you can see in the Attachement.
I know that Sony will fix this Problem but when 1/3 from the Photos are just not sharp for a 900 Dollar Phone its a little Dissapointing.

You are from Basel
I think, photo-quality is ok, but I would have expected more (comming from an XZ1 compact).... - Especialy the selfie-camera was better on the XZ1 compact, because it had 120° angle mode.

That certainly not encouraging to hear that. I looking at both Xperia 1 II and 5 II for quite a while already. Still not impressed with the camera system at all - the only selling point of this phone to my opinion. Can't find the proof that new Xperias can beat my old Pixel 3 or even Pixel 1 (which is the most colour accurate of all to my opinion). Can't remember of getting out of focus photos from Pixel 3.
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For some reason this tread is nearly empty - no encouraging, mind-blowing photos. And this is quite suspicious. Why is that? Xperia 5 II / 1 II can't really shine in it? Or messing with Pro mode leave to time to take a great shot? Please upload more photos showing that new Xperia camera system is any better than others, especially against "so unnatural" Pixels.

skilli said:
With good Light the Camera make good Photos, but i really have Focus issues for Quick Fotos. Its not that im Shaking or something but at 1 of 3 Photos im must repeat and then the Focus is about right. As you can see in the Attachement.
I know that Sony will fix this Problem but when 1/3 from the Photos are just not sharp for a 900 Dollar Phone its a little Dissapointing.
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Completely agree with it. I'd be very disappointed If I bought photo-oriented $900 smartphone and found the low light photos coming out in "quality" like yours. I believe my $50 old dinky Pixel 1 does better job. In this case "Photo Pro photographer guys" will say that you have to use Photo Pro app every single time, Sony fanboys will say that you have got a faulty unit. To my opinion it's just failure to deliver the quality everyone expected from the company which makes the best camera sensors.

Here is an additional take on photo quality.
Main lens (wide angle) in AUTO mode (with standard / Pro apps):
Good:
- Noiseless pictures. Much improved from previous generation.
- Natural looking blur in out-of focus areas (ex: background). Can create natural bokeh for cats, faces, macro, etc.
- Contrary to what some people say, good dynamic range because the auto HDR mode turns on when needed in most cases. Note that in the Pro app, you can use touch metering and still keep HDR active, a nice addition.
- Good pictures in low light: very low noise and not too much unnatural brightening of scene.
- Mostly no lens flares on standard intensity lights. (improved from Xperia 5)
Not so good:
- Focus issues at night: lack of TOF and no pre-flash sometimes leads to focus misses. Solution is to use the Pro app with continuous focus ON (mode is not available in standard app). Most often this allows phones to acquire focus except in total darkness.
- Focus issues with far subjects, such as landscape. Sometimes the camera just won't focus at all. Solution is to use tap to focus (in Pro app, this means you have to turn OFF continuous focus)
- Focus issues with eye / face detection: it's just not always accurate. Again, much better results with tap to focus.
- Very bad lens flares (light streaks) when facing a brighter light at some angles. (much worse than Xperia 5). So much for the Zeiss lens!. This issue can sometimes be solved by placing your hand to block the strong light near the lens.
- Color temperature is a bit too cold. Especially visible in darker environments.
What about non-auto modes ?
Good:
- You can set everything as you wish in Pro app.
Not so Good:
- As in previous generations, you will get a lot more noise than in auto mode, esp. beyond 200 ISO. Makes is useless for me. One solution would be using RAW and applying your own denoising filters, but you loose HDR and I didn't get much better results anyways.
- Takes more time to adjust: not suitable for quick shots.
What about the other lenses ?
- Ultra wide gives ok results. Not worse than other flagships from what I've seen.
- Zoom lens is more noisy. Only suitable in daylight IMO.
- Selfie: never used.
My conclusion:
- With Xperia 5 II, you can get great pictures with a photographic look in the right situations. But some pictures may out-of-focus and some will get bad lens flares. Also it needs too much attention to settings for me.
- So I sold the phone and kept my Xperia 5 1st gen. Photos have a bit more noise, but it's more dependable in focusing and rarely misses a picture. Colors are also warmer and more accurate at least to my taste.
Note that Xperia 1 II may not have these focusing issues but I didn't try it.
Some examples:
Xperia 5 II: flares
Xperia 5: no flare
Xperia 5 II: bad focus at night
Xperia 5: better focus at night
Xperia 5 II: natural bokeh
Xperia 5: not much bokeh
Xperia 5 II: less noise
Xperia 5: more noise
Xperia 5 II: the 3 lenses:
Ultra wide
wide
zoom

Some other pics from X5 II (in right situations)
(<- with zoom lens)
(<- ultra wide lens)

skilli said:
With good Light the Camera make good Photos, but i really have Focus issues for Quick Fotos. Its not that im Shaking or something but at 1 of 3 Photos im must repeat and then the Focus is about right. As you can see in the Attachement.
I know that Sony will fix this Problem but when 1/3 from the Photos are just not sharp for a 900 Dollar Phone its a little Dissapointing.
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Unfortunately this is my experience with it as well. Once light conditions aren't perfect the camera struggles with focusing and stops delivering good photos. Also the water painting effect isn't something unusual here which is not acceptable for over $900 camera-phone. Just wondering whether Xperia 1 II is better in this regard? Maybe TOF helps somehow?

For focus issues: are you using stock app or PhotoPro app in auto mode?
I haven't noticed any focus issue but I always use PhotoPro

asvaberg said:
For focus issues: are you using stock app or PhotoPro app in auto mode?
I haven't noticed any focus issue but I always use PhotoPro
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I'm also a little bit worried about the camera quality and focus...I'm using PhotoPro but it doesn't looks so good, but I don't regret switching from P30 pro

I'm considering buying the phone and the cameras are the most important for me, so my most important questions are - is there raw format shooting for all three lenses and what are their maximum exposure settings(seconds), cause with my current mi note 10 pro I was able to shoot the milky way, and expect this phone to be able also...

bo6o said:
I'm considering buying the phone and the cameras are the most important for me, so my most important questions are - is there raw format shooting for all three lenses and what are their maximum exposure settings(seconds), cause with my current mi note 10 pro I was able to shoot the milky way, and expect this phone to be able also...
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Hello, you can shoot raw on all the 3 lenses. Maximum exposure time it's 30 sec. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend you this device for making photos, I'm coming from a P30 pro and I'm really disappointed with the overall quality of the photos, so you better start looking for another device....

robi101012981 said:
Hello, you can shoot raw on all the 3 lenses. Maximum exposure time it's 30 sec. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend you this device for making photos, I'm coming from a P30 pro and I'm really disappointed with the overall quality of the photos, so you better start looking for another device....
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Are you talking for jpg quality, or raw?
Cause I'm not planning to use jpg for serious shooting, as I did with my real camera. I like to produce my own jpgs and I know how to use the 3 main(in smartphones 2) settings.
Can anyone provide me with a raw sample from each of the lenses. Would appreciate it.

bo6o said:
Are you talking for jpg quality, or raw?
Cause I'm not planning to use jpg for serious shooting, as I did with my real camera. I like to produce my own jpgs and I know how to use the 3 main(in smartphones 2) settings.
Can anyone provide me with a raw sample from each of the lenses. Would appreciate it.
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Raw, of course,I don't shoot jpeg because I like to edit my photos