You're a power user. Can the Moto X4 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Moto X4. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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I used to be a supporter of the X4 but I am no longer. First - most phones allow the transfer of applications to the SD card. The X4 doesn't. Given that system files take up 28 of a 32 GB phone there is nothing left (even with all media files moved.) My apps won't even update anymore without my individually going through each app and deleting the cache. Second - latest Android update removed the ability to connect the phone to my PC. It's not even recognized as a USB device. These are real problems Moto. My phone is fairly new but beyond the return period otherwise I'd return it.
Overall, the development aspect of this phone has been lower than any phone I have ever owned. There is still some development and discussions in other sections for different Android builds, camera mods, etc but much, MUCH less than other phones.
That being said, despite the issue that ranros raised (which I also dislike), I am as please with this phone as I have been with any previous phone (if only I was able to root my old S5s...).
I've recently acquired the X4 and noticed the device trees are either very unreliable or straight up missing.. I was looking for Oreo & Pie trees to build with since there's Official builds but they either don't seem to exist or just a big pain to find
bcrichster said:
I've recently acquired the X4 and noticed the device trees are either very unreliable or straight up missing.. I was looking for Oreo & Pie trees to build with since there's Official builds but they either don't seem to exist or just a big pain to find
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May be you are searching for this
https://github.com/moto-SDM660
vkbhanwariya said:
May be you are searching for this
https://github.com/moto-SDM660
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Thank you, Sir. Much appreciated
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You're a power user. Can the Note5 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Note5. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Samsung hasn't made things particularly easier for developers, but at least things like root aren't significantly harder for the end-user. You have Noble Kernel for root, Official TWRP is available, and Xposed for ARM64 TouchWiz works on the Note5 as well. It's still early to tell, but right now I am running Xposed with no problems. The multitasking fix for the S6 (DHA/FHA in the build.prop) works on this phone and makes the 4GB of RAM shine as they should. The microSD card slot and removable battery losses are thoroughly felt when flashing and transferring files, but the storage speed in this device makes most procedures easier too. I am content with my setup and can't wait to see more. Custom Kernels with better governors would be great, and that plus optimized custom ROMs could fix many of Samsung's decisions.
Any more info about community development for this device?
It's new
Other devs will make their way over @sac23, I'd love to see something from you over here. We got a damn good rom with @tdunham and his team, that's a hell of a good start! Development for the note 5 will definitely keep getting better! :good:
Good times ahead!
If anyone has heard of @sac23, you know his work. If you don't, I suggest checking it out, we'll be getting a new visitor soon....
XDA are very good development family, they do really great job, but samsung just keeps the Exynos CPUs locked, so no major rom updates available (E.g. my fav CM).
The community here, we'll for the Verizon variant of this phone is good, not very good or excellent but it's good. We generally don't flame each other or any bullying. We help each other with our thoughts about best case, car mount, wireless charger etc. Even though we do not have root, recovery or roms. It's good. I imagine if we did root, recovery and roms. These forum's would be hella busy for rom development.
Guys we are getting update for 7.1.1 in a few weeks check out this link
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-7.1.1-Nougat-rollout-kicks-off-for-the-Moto-G4-Play_id95101
And u made a thread for this ,, WOW
U just wasted 1 minute of Mods when they close this duplicate thread
Why no one gives a f*ck about this device?
PI_IP said:
And u made a thread for this ,, WOW
U just wasted 1 minute of Mods when they close this duplicate thread
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anonymous2211 said:
Why no one gives a f*ck about this device?
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Chill - a little civility goes a long way. No issue with a new thread given Q&A section.
PI_IP said:
And u made a thread for this ,, WOW
U just wasted 1 minute of Mods when they close this duplicate thread
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anonymous2211 said:
Why no one gives a f*ck about this device?
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Why you write so rude?? :S It's on the Q&A Section... I hope anybody gets angry at you when you make dumb question.... The guy only was happy about the update...
I wasn't rude, I'm disappointed that it seems that no one cares about the update or the device at all...
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I wasn't rude, I'm disappointed that it seems that no one cares about the update or the device at all...
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Might take a look in the development threads where extensive activity is taking place. This is far from a device that receives little attention.
too bad if nougat is available for Moto G4 Play. but nougat is not supported yet.. xposed and magisk lack of modules
Some people don't care about xposed or magisk... All I want is even better performance (better RAM management/CPU usage) and better battery life (Doze on the go).
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Some people don't care about xposed or magisk... All I want is even better performance (better RAM management/CPU usage) and better battery life (Doze on the go).
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Interesting comment. If truely seeking those characteristics then Android 6 is almost manditory as few Nougat ROMs offer the control available via Xposed.
Agreed 'Doze on the Go' is essential for battery life but easily implemented on Marshmallow via numerous well regarded apps or (ideally) Xposed modules.
Nothing against Android 7.x. It's an excellent base that beings a nice suite of incremental refinements. Unfortunately, CPU/RAM management is no better than native Android 6.x and the lack of Xposed support makes further tuning more difficult (arguably impossible) at the user level.
Android 8 does seem to offer some improvement resource management. Be interesting to see how it plays out in the real world, especially on back ports.
I don't think that Android as an OS can get any better, I mean what else can they implement in upcoming versions? This very cheap device is capable of doing about anything that I need almost instantly. No lags, acceptable day and a half battery life (I don't play games). I expect it to be even better with nougat. Now this is way off topic, but why do people need 4/6/8 GB of RAM, and milion cores qualcomm 8xx CPU (except maybe for games)? I've been using this SD410 from 2013 for over a 6 months now, and it does everything perfectly fine, no one lag... For 150$...
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I don't think that Android as an OS can get any better, I mean what else can they implement in upcoming versions? This very cheap device is capable of doing about anything that I need almost instantly. No lags, acceptable day and a half battery life (I don't play games). I expect it to be even better with nougat. Now this is way off topic, but why do people need 4/6/8 GB of RAM, and milion cores qualcomm 8xx CPU (except maybe for games)? I've been using this SD410 from 2013 for over a 6 months now, and it does everything perfectly fine, no one lag... For 150$...
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Appears you define 'near perfection' relative to your own experiences and expectations. I could offer various analogies but assume you get the point.
I own numerous Android device with CPUs ranging from SD410 at the low end to SD820 (mid range); RAM goes from ½GB to 4GB. I enjoy each device for the allocated tasks. Things would be much different if I swapped them around.
Do your homework on Android 8. There is a lot in the pipeline, especially for newer devices that come with O pre-installed. In contrast, Nougat was a relatively minor tweak to the already solid Marshmallow. Most of the newer functionality Android 7 has been available since KitKat via Xposed modules. Google just decided to bake it in (thankfully) but still left a lot of goodies out.
Davey126 said:
Appears you define 'near perfection' relative to your own experiences and expectations. I could offer various analogies but assume you get the point.
I own numerous Android device with CPUs ranging from SD410 at the low end to SD820 (mid range); RAM goes from ½GB to 4GB. I enjoy each device for the allocated tasks. Things would be much different if I swapped them around.
Do your homework on Android 8. There is a lot in the pipeline, especially for newer devices that come with O pre-installed. In contrast, Nougat was a relatively minor tweak to the already solid Marshmallow. Most of the newer functionality Android 7 has been available since KitKat via Xposed modules. Google just decided to bake it in (thankfully) but still left a lot of goodies out.
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Are you going to update to 7 or stick with 6 and exposed? Or maybe you're running a custom ROM...
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Are you going to update to 7 or stick with 6 and exposed? Or maybe you're running a custom ROM...
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Running stock Marshmallow on (bootloader) unlocked XT1607. While I have Xposed and a few key modules installed phone is not my daily driver so may consider stock Nougat if there is an obvious benefit (not seeing it now); AOSP and Lineage are also contenders. Biggest concern is inability to control some protected processes w/o Xposed. At present I score a 0.2% per hour average idle drain rate with all radios, full location services and push mail/messaging enabled. Would also miss UI controls offered via Edge and GravityBox.
Nothing on my Amazon play
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http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-moto-g4-play-android-7-1-1-update-soak-test-build-ota-zip/
Jalebi dev also happy for this update
Does anyone got the update?
No update yet. Still waiting on the xt1607.
Also still waiting for xt1607. I wonder why India and other countries got theirs way earlier. You'd think they would release them at the same time. What's the difference? 1 sim vs dual SIM?
Since quite some time I am having some peculiar performance problems on my Motorola Moto X Force. Sometimes any interaction (like just opening Chrome for example) takes incredibly long until it responds. This also happens after clearing all apps in the task switcher and it can also happen pretty soon after rebooting the phone. Imho a phone with a 4x 2.00GHz Cortex-A57 + 4x 1.50GHz Cortex-A53 (Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810, 64bit) and 3 GiB RAM should not have such problems.
Thinking some app might hog the CPU in the background (though I do not have any battery problems - it can go for over 48 hours without charging) I installed some system monitoring apps in order to get to the bottom of this. One app, System Monitor Lite has the ability to log in the background, when enabled. I wanted to check if I can correlate CPU or RAM usage with the periods where the phone runs slow.
However once the background logging of that app is active, the phone immediately runs noticeably smoother! And it runs smooth as long as the background logging is active. Once I turn it off, the phone will get slow again after some time. This makes me think now that this phone (or Android 7.0) has a power management problem. i.e. letting the CPU(s) run in a low performance state, when it should not.
Has anyone else ever experienced something like that or any ideas how to combat this?
Dude that thread is not for moto x force, just the moto x 2013! search the right thread for ur device.
Thread? Do you mean the Moto X General sub forum? There is no Moto X Force sub forum as far as I can see.
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Thread? Do you mean the Moto X General sub forum? There is no Moto X Force sub forum as far as I can see.
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Moto X droid turbo 2 is the name in another variants -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2
Thank you, I did not realize that. I only used the Search on the front page. The thread has been moved now.
Hello, friend! I am having problems like yours too. That´s annoying me. I just used this phone from about 1 and a half year without performance issues, but from 2 months until now it started with stock rom, so i rooted and flashed Lineage OS. It runned smoth for a little time (3 weeks), but after that the phone got slower and slower no matter what i did. Got heating problems too, A LOT heating.
So i clean flashed Ressurrection Remix, and it was a charm at beggining! Very smooth, but after a few days it started the same thing as always, but the heating got lower.
So, i´m finished with this phone, i think the "Planned obsolescence" got us. It´s a 2015 phone and makers wants us to move on and buy another.
But, while i dont buy a new phone, i´m accepting the challenge to make my XForce runs smooth again. I´ll try this monitoring app you said and then i´ll flash another rom, the "Stock L!ite" from CrashXXL here on XDA.
I´ll post my feedback here.
Yeah, I'll also just get rid of it soon.
Is there a possibility of porting the stock PIE rom from either G7 or other Moto phones down to the G5 plus? I don't care if it is 32 bit or 64 bit. Would not it be awesome to the stability of stock plus the sweetness of PIE?
Shonilchi said:
Is there a possibility of porting the stock PIE rom from either G7 or other Moto phones down to the G5 plus? I don't care if it is 32 bit or 64 bit. Would not it be awesome to the stability of stock plus the sweetness of PIE?
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I don't think so. There's a ***load of custom Pie ROMs out there, stock like, pixel like and what else you want. They're all based on the kernel source of the Moto G5+. A Moto G7 is a completely different device and porting that software would be inefficient and almost impossible.
Also I don't see any advantage in doing something like this, the difference between a G5 and a G7 is 90% hardware, not software.
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Why would they waste so much of their time when there are **** load of pie roms out there. Android q is around the corner.
If they have time They will do bringing up of q. Why waste time on this??
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Why would they waste so much of their time when there are **** load of pie roms out there. Android q is around the corner.
If they have time They will do bringing up of q. Why waste time on this??
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I say why not? With so much overload of PIE roms for the G5 plus all over with major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes, the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos, would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
Do they even have custom ROMs for the g7 yet?
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I say why not? With so much overload of PIE roms for the G5 plus all over with major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes, the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos, would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
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That's your opinion. These are not major issue in most people's eye. If you consider this things issue no one is forcing you to you use custom roms. Most of the users including myself don't mind these things.
That's your opinion that stock is better most of the people and devs don't share your opinion.
Second most of the devs and users don't want to use stock Android. When devs themselves don't want to use stock why would they try to port it. As it's just a hobby as most of the devs are collage / school students they do it as their hobby. They won't develop something which they don't use.
Third it's waste of time and energy most people want to use latest android in their limited budget. When q is around the corner no one waste that much of a time in this.
And last at littery require lots of work which is not feasible.
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[...]major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes[..]
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Not a major issue. It would be a major issue if you couldn't hear anything.
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[...]the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos[...]
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I think that it is 'hyped' for a reason. And, as far as I can tell, ported apps tend to show more problems. There are many options around that could probably take better, 'nonstuttering' videos, you can go ahead and try to find one that suits you.
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[...]would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
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Porting can lead to many, many bugs. Its not like you could just copy and paste and call it a day. Lot of work has to be done. If nobody did it yet is probably because either there is no reason (eg there is already a stock version, many custom ROMs available, etc) or because it would require so much work that it isn't worth it.
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Is there a possibility of porting the stock PIE rom from either G7 or other Moto phones down to the G5 plus? I don't care if it is 32 bit or 64 bit. Would not it be awesome to the stability of stock plus the sweetness of PIE?
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Now that i bought moto one power after using stock android pie now i get what you were trying to say. Its lot better experience overall. Because its android one phone it has all pie goodness like app actions , slices , digital wallbeing , proper pie recents with search bar and predictive apps in recent apps with moto goodness like moto display , chop chop . Twist to camera.
I never new what i was missing.
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I say why not? With so much overload of PIE roms for the G5 plus all over with major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes, the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos, would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
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My main complaint with stock ROMs when compared to customs ROMs on all of the Moto phones I have owned (5 of them) is bloat. Secondly, performance and battery life tend to be sub-par. I have tried several custom ROMs on my G5+ and they all have pros and cons. That said, I recently settled on ArrowOS Pie with Opengapps pico and am quite satisfied. It has great performance and battery life without any of the apps I don't need or want. Furthermore I don't see any of the issues you mention above. Finally, the camera works well and doesn't have the lag seen in other versions. Give it a try! :good:
You're a power user. Can the Redmi Note 8 Pro keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Redmi Note 8 Pro. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Yes 8 pro can keep up with every day of use, bring it on.
I was about to buy this phone, giving Mediatek a chance... But then the bricks started happening, and ROMs are not showing up yet. Why Mediatek can't keep up still? I just can't understand. It's a shame, but I won't be buying this phone.
I have RN8 pro and i am happy with it! Mediatek is fast and stable, I am still giving chance.
- Brick problem is with Android 10 and I think it will get better with official Xiaomi update.
- Gcam is working, it needs just more configuration.
- GPS and WIFI are great, battery too.
Looking forward seeing more ROMs and development.
The redmi note 8 pro can do more than keep up it's a great device. source code has been released and phones have been sent out to devs and TWRP custom recovery is working good as well as root. xiaomi is pushing the mediatek SOC with them knowing there will be development for there chips. I'm very impressed by this phone in every way it's performance, daily useage, stability, battery performance, screen is great for ips lcd, gorrila glass 5 front & rear and the camera has blown every phone iv'e owned out of the water. The conventional SD chip has development across the board so sit back and watch the development happen.
I've have the phone for three weeks now. Seems to be a good phone. My privacy interest prevents me from using the phone until a custom ROM is available (I personally wouldn't use Google services and miui services). I unlocked the bootloader (waiting time was 168 hours) and now I'm going to wait for a custom ROM and that's fine.
But I did a few tests with the camera and the camera is really fast and the quality is great.
ADB/Fastboot tools debloat
Don´t wait just use "ADB/Fastboot tools debloat" to remove or freeze the apps
I did that to be aware of my privacy like you
i think no...redmi note 8 pro will be bricked and need authorized account to flash...this hard for development when its bricked
I think Xiaomi.eu official statement say IT clearly. No support and avoid MTK chips for future.
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Don´t wait just use "ADB/Fastboot tools debloat" to remove or freeze the apps
I did that to be aware of my privacy like you
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Nah. I wanna use a custom ROM and afwall, xprivacylua, etc. But thanks.
Do we have any news about development and new ROMs coming?
No one knows. And that's the problem. There is NO reliable way to get updates about this phone. None of the so called developers have a work in progress thread where they share development. So people tend to speculate.
Just bought a Note 8 Pro...i'm hoping that some developers love this phone too
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/12/17...nd-developers-suffering-with-bricked-devices/
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https://www.gizchina.com/2019/12/17...nd-developers-suffering-with-bricked-devices/
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Yes there is big movement.
Share this article, make post on Twitter to @XiaoMi and contact YouTobers. We are waiting for response of Xiaomi now.
I really wanted to buy this phone. Cheap with awesome specs but custom ROMs and kernels are a must. I hope this brick issue gets solved quick.
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I really wanted to buy this phone. Cheap with awesome specs but custom ROMs and kernels are a must. I hope this brick issue gets solved quick.
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It's Great phone! There is no better for the same price.
We have to fight, pushing Xiaomi to work harder.
Yes! I still have hope for this device even after it did brick once. Keep pushing forward and they will surely listen to our demand.
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Don´t wait just use "ADB/Fastboot tools debloat" to remove or freeze the apps
I did that to be aware of my privacy like you
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Sadly, some people doesn't have that much time or patience for such. :/
Happy to contribute to crowdfunding for development of Lineage OS and other Android distros on the Pro. Looks like a great phone with a lot of potential for the price!