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Opo or opt

I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.

Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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Migdilu said:
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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I am an aggressive flasher. First thing I do is root. Currently using moto x play. Will switch optwo I think.
Wanted to know the users experience. Marketing hype backfired oneplus image I guess.

Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.

Thanks for the feedback. That's the dilemma for me. I know opo had great os. Unfortunate that they had to develop their own os.
Have to keep fingers crossed with oxygen os. I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.

Gopinath15 said:
I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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They push updates monthly, but it's all just minor stuff from my perspective - bug fixes that didn't even bother me, for example some dual sim issues. I didn't have any battery issues since Day 1.
I guess it all depends on your use case and past user experience - for example, if this was my first encounter with Android, I could be easily thrilled about OOS. But, it's not - and I'm not. At all.

If you like CM badly, buy OPO now. Sell it and get OP2 when marshmallow is officially out and cm on OPT is stable.
You may feel that this is a bad suggestion but this is my honest opinion unless you are willing to use Oxygen with custom kernel for now.
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Ive had them both too. The OPO has a lot going more custom roms if that's something you're interested in. The OPT doesn't have much in the custom rom department yet. The 5.1 roms you won't have fingerprint scanner or lazer auto focus. But if you root and install xposed and a few of the modules and add boeffla kernel, i pulled over 91,000 on antutu. The SD810 only gets warm when i do a back-up, wipe and install all in a row. The firngerprint scanner is really convenient a long with the alert slider

emelsk said:
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Check out pacman rom cm 12.1, there's a build somewhere near December 3rd that is literally perfect. I've been running it since that day and absolutely everything works out of the box, camera at 13 mp, Snapchat, GPS, amazing battery/performance, and Facebook. Obviously no fingerprint and laser auto focus but its by far the best cm rom I've used on this phone, cm 12.1 nightlies are getting buggier and buggier it seems and I've had no reason to switch from this. Use dualboot if you're hesitant

I am using moto x play at the moment. Need another mobile now. One plus two is impressive lookwise.
I was going through op2 forum. Seems buzzing. I ll be active here once I get one plus two.
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emelsk said:
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Exact same as him and I can't agree enough. He nailed it

Gopinath15 said:
I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.

Like how opo was at its early age. It was glitchy and needed a lot of bugs to be squashed, but it ended up being so good that it's still getting praises compared to current flagships. That could very likely be the same opt it's buggy now, but once it starts rolling expect it to be a beast also

demongokul said:
Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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is moto x play is good device? .

Tatsuya_ said:
is moto x play is good device? .
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Oh yes. I thought 615 sd will heat. Motorola really did a good job. Doesn't hear you and giving a great battery life. It has exceeded my expectation
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OP2 is receiving prompt updates every month so far and snapdragon810 was proven tame-able with correct kernel setup and parameters (like Boeffla kernel for an example)
If you expect op2 to work great out of the box I would say no. But if you try to tame it by following guides available here, it is a bang of a buck for its price compared to other snapdragon810 devices in its era
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Dual sim needed?
Or
Custom rom and developer friendly?
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.

madferretx said:
As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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The person created the thread lives in India. Nexus 6P costs 60% more than the Oneplus 2.

Should I upgrade to Android M?

I'm asking this question because I want input from users who did upgrade and I'm not sure if I need the upgrade or not.
I'm currently going by the logic: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm quite happy with how Android L with the stock Kernel works on my device and after looking at the features that Google advertises for M I discovered that I can live without most of them.
I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system, app permissions, overall performance improvements in apps and general usage and some misc things like the new copy/paste thingy.
So let's say that of all the above, I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system. How well does it in you experience work? How much more usage do you get out of your phone? Do the new Doze and App Standby features really work as well as Google advertises them?
Also how stable is Android M on the Nexus 4? This is the main thing that is keeping me from upgrading. I would rather stay on stock then get a few new features that may or may not work well or even worse, get a phone that crashes every 5 minutes.
I'm currently looking to use the Pure Nexus Project ROM (because I want the pure Google experience) and the TAURUS Kernel (heard a lot of good things about this Kernel and it works well with the ROM I've chosen by the reports of some users).
So what do think? Is it worth it to upgrade to M or should I wait for the next major Android version?
Thank you for reading.

I have been using One Of A Kind ROM (OCT 31, Build) and it has been rock solid for me. My phone's battery definitely lasts longer than stock Lollipop ROM. We are talking a couple of hours extra. The Doze feature works well, there is very little battery drain on standby. You will see that from battery stats. You will be waiting for a while until next iteration of Android. As you know Google has stopped supporting Nexus 4, it will be at least few weeks to a month before we get anything going for our beloved Nexus 4. Even then, the stability won't be guaranteed.
I think there are a few stable ROMs out there. Back up everything and give it a try. Worst case scenario, you go back to what you had.
I tried M, and I am not going back to Lollipop.

Yes, you should. Doze makes a difference for me, and the permission stuff is always useful to have. If you find yourself confortable with stock L, then you should flash "stock M", which is, in my opinion: Fake Nexus ROM.
I had same doubts one month ago, and I tried with a few ROMs out here, searching for stability, battery life, without compromising performance. I stopped on the ROM I linked you, try it!

Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.

It does have noticeable improvements, the system is smoother, battery life is longer (you should probably install Grennify to further improve the new Doze mode and App Standby functionalities),
and it comes with app permission control.
With regard to stablization, I have been using the PureNexusProject rom and the TAURUS kernel for nearly a month, no reboot no crash, no bizarre behaviors, everything seems fine and I really enjoy it.
I personally recommand you to try it, anyway it's the new Android!

I'm loving android M, Doze is really working to me!
So I think you should give it a try.

LORD MJ said:
Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.
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Why?

TheArt. said:
Why?
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For a number or reasons. It's mostly that I'm happy how things are working right now and I don't have time to upgrade. Also, I don't have enough space to fully backup my apps.

Xposed Framework {6.0.1}

==================================Xposed Framework For 6.0.1 {SDK23}==================================
Xposed Framework is now much more stable for sdk 23. So let's try it out!
Requirements :
* Unlocked Bootloader
* TWRP Recovery
* SuperSu
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***Download and extract Xposed.zip from attachments.
***Transfer the extracted files in to device.
***Install XposedFramework.apk
***Reboot to twrp and flash framework.zip
***That's It!
Enjoy
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What version is it?
What version number is this Xposed? Is it systemless or official? Can anyone report back how it is working for them? Phone lags, freezes, reboots randomly?

For which firmware ? It is available for nougat .378 & .376 ?

Lethien said:
For which firmware ? It is available for nougat .378 & .376 ?
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SDK21 -> Android 5.0
SDK22 -> Android 5.1
SDK23 -> Android 6.0(.1)
SDK23 won't work for Android 7.0 And at the moment there is no working framework available for Android 7.0 Maybe that's something for the future. Or not.

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SDK21 -> Android 5.0
SDK22 -> Android 5.1
SDK23 -> Android 6.0(.1)
SDK23 won't work for Android 7.0 And at the moment there is no working framework available for Android 7.0 Maybe that's something for the future. Or not.
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Ok, thanks for you reply
Regards

Is there any particular reason why Xposed for Android 7.0 might not come at all? Did Google try to screw us again in some way by making it semi-impossible to use Xposed, or is this just a matter of time before it starts working on Nougat?

Bobzee said:
Is there any particular reason why Xposed for Android 7.0 might not come at all? Did Google try to screw us again in some way by making it semi-impossible to use Xposed, or is this just a matter of time before it starts working on Nougat?
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Xposed is made and maintained by only 1 guy who does it in his free time. And it works on a level that's mostly undocumented. I don't know if it's ever gonna work. And this is about everything that's know about it. But I believe that if this wasn't a one-man's-job/hobby, but maintained by a collective of professionals, it would be launched much faster (and much more stable).

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Xposed is made and maintained by only 1 guy who does it in his free time. And it works on a level that's mostly undocumented. I don't know if it's ever gonna work. And this is about everything that's know about it. But I believe that if this wasn't a one-man's-job/hobby, but maintained by a collective of professionals, it would be launched much faster (and much more stable).
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That's amazing, I did not know that. It seemed to me that Xposed was developed by a team of XDA members, not just a single person. That's commendable.
So, jenana, I reckon your recommendation for people that want a good rooted phone would be to roll back from 7.0 to 6.0.1 and stay there forever with a working and stable Xposed?
After battling with Google Play services for two weeks, I am quite tired of this rom's behaviour. I get more usage from GPS than I do from my screen. It drains absurd amounts of battery for no good reason, with stopped location. I get 3 days of standby with this phone, with a 2700mAh battery. Nexus 5X - 8 DAYS on standby with wi-fi on. Play services drained 60mAh for 8 DAYS. It has the same 2700mAh capacity!!!
So, absolutely the same capacity, but one phone gets 3 days of standby, the other 8 days. Sure. Makes good sense, right?
I am almost done trying to deal with this crap. Love the feel of 7, but if I am going to get 0.0% drain on a fully rooted MM with working Xposed... the choice seems easy.
Shame on google for being such dic*s when it comes to battery. From what I have gathered, these wakelocks are forced by google and collect information that is of absolutely no use to us, but of big use to them, at the cost of our batteries. I have no issue believing that, because it makes much more sense than Google not being able to fix a bug for 5 years since KitKat, that is destroying the most important part of our devices. The only logical conclusion is that these wakelocks are forced on purpose to work for Google's needs.

Bobzee said:
So, jenana, I reckon your recommendation for people that want a good rooted phone would be to roll back from 7.0 to 6.0.1 and stay there forever with a working and stable Xposed?
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I think that depends on how you want to use your phone, more specifically how you weigh the balance between security and usability/flexibility. If one or more Xposed module(s) is absolutely critical for you, enough that you can ignore the updated security patches in Nougat, then it might suit you better to stay on MM with Xposed. But if you value security over what Xposed modules offers you, then by all means upgrade to Nougat.
For me, I'm staying on MM with Xposed. I'm aware of the possible risks, and I believe my internet usage and practices are decent enough. The security levels for the Z5C were never up to date anyway.

mhaha said:
I think that depends on how you want to use your phone, more specifically how you weigh the balance between security and usability/flexibility. If one or more Xposed module(s) is absolutely critical for you, enough that you can ignore the updated security patches in Nougat, then it might suit you better to stay on MM with Xposed. But if you value security over what Xposed modules offers you, then by all means upgrade to Nougat.
For me, I'm staying on MM with Xposed. I'm aware of the possible risks, and I believe my internet usage and practices are decent enough. The security levels for the Z5C were never up to date anyway.
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That's a fair point. Including the one about not being up to date anyway, heh.
Yet, I imagined you can defend yourself fairly well on MM with the Xposed framework, combined with having strict control over apps, firewall, anti-vir, etc.
I am by no means knowledgeable on this subject, though, so excuse my ignorance. It just bugs me too much that my phone can do much better if the software is properly set up. Stock is alright by me, but not having control over these absurd wakelocks is just killing my fun, in a way. My old Z1 lasted 5 days on 4.4 with pretty normal usage, and at least 2-3 days with heavy usage. Android L then instantly cut that time to 3 days (factory resets never helped), from which the phone never recovered. Then it gradually started lasting 1-2 days with the final updates I got OTA. The Z1 actually DID last about 25 days in ULTRA stamina mode. It had other serious issues, but the battery was absolutely glorious on KitKat.
I know that my Z5C is capable of even more, because the 6.0.1 management can take it to a full ~30 days in ultra mode, if you keep it idle the whole time. The "normal" usage should be about 5 days, easily. Heavy usage should be 1-2, possibly even 3 days. Definitely not just 1 day.
That's what I expect from this device and I know it's realistic. It just has to be achieved and does take some effort and skill, of which I am lacking the second a bit.

Guys, I've tried systemless v87 Xposed with Magisk 11.1, 10, 9, and Official v87, 86.2, 86 Xposed with SuperSU 2.79 and with 3 different kernels (modified stock, AndroPlus and Sunkernel from Zacharias) on my Z5 compact on Android 6.0.1 (Australian firmware). All the time the phone gets super slow, lags to the point of unusable, buttons and screen take minutes to respond, sometimes random reboots. What could be the problem? I noticed that while on WiFi at home phone seems to work fine, while on mobile network it starts lagging pretty quickly. What combination works for you best? Also which firmware do you use instead of USA to activate fingerprint sensor? I appreciate any help.

Mi A2 slower than a Redmi Note 5?

Hey guys,
how is it possible that a SD 636 is faster than a 660 with Android One?
In this article you have different videos that show different Speed Test, and in the last ones, the Note 5 beats the Mi A2:
https://newesc.com/test-velocidad-xiaomi-a2-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-5/

he-s comparing apples and pears.
whyred has been out for months now, plenty of time for miui for it to get optimizations and improvements (it's also probably the main redmi device that they work on miui10, complete with the new ai engine loading algorithms that learn your usage patters to speed up your phone).
and even without that, any sort of miui vs android one comparisons are irrelevant if you ask me... nobody ever said miui is slow, some just prefer a clean android instead.

laviniu_c said:
he-s comparing apples and pears.
whyred has been out for months now, plenty of time for miui for it to get optimizations and improvements (it's also probably the main redmi device that they work on miui10, complete with the new ai engine loading algorithms that learn your usage patters to speed up your phone).
and even without that, any sort of miui vs android one comparisons are irrelevant if you ask me... nobody ever said miui is slow, some just prefer a clean android instead.
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Every company should launch the best optimized product they can, because the first month is the most important in sells. If you launch a new product that cost more but is not faster than an older one, you are gonna lose customers. Easy.
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
"nobody ever said miui is slow" that's true, but you can see a lot of youtubers saying that they prefer Android one because is "faster" and "more optimized"

mingogomes said:
Every company should launch the best optimized product they can, because the first month is the most important in sells. If you launch a new product that cost more but is not faster than an older one, you are gonna lose customers. Easy.
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
"nobody ever said miui is slow" that's true, but you can see a lot of youtubers saying that they prefer Android one because is "faster" and "more optimized"
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i don't think i agree with you that the first month is the most important for sales. and we need to work a bit on the definition of faster. starting apps isn't necessarily the benchmark to use. try running miui for a few weeks, switch to a custom/stable aosp of sorts for another 2 weeks and come back to miui. then decide if a phone is slower or faster on android one versus miui. some people like miui others like android. it's always a matter of preference. i personally couldn't use miui any more after the first time i switched os versions like this. it just felt wrong.
L.E. the storage speed difference could also be down to encryption being on or off on the 2 terminals. or due to the A/B system of the mi a2. there could be services running on the jasmine that the whyred is not running at the moment. it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make! always remember that!
L.E.2 "I want it to be the best NOW." you know these are all budget-y phones we're talking about, right?

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it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make!
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but shouldn't it be even possible to use a whyred GSI on jasmine too? it's a treble phone.

laviniu_c said:
i don't think i agree with you that the first month is the most important for sales. and we need to work a bit on the definition of faster. starting apps isn't necessarily the benchmark to use. try running miui for a few weeks, switch to a custom/stable aosp of sorts for another 2 weeks and come back to miui. then decide if a phone is slower or faster on android one versus miui. some people like miui others like android. it's always a matter of preference. i personally couldn't use miui any more after the first time i switched os versions like this. it just felt wrong.
L.E. the storage speed difference could also be down to encryption being on or off on the 2 terminals. or due to the A/B system of the mi a2. there could be services running on the jasmine that the whyred is not running at the moment. it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make! always remember that!
L.E.2 "I want it to be the best NOW." you know these are all budget-y phones we're talking about, right?
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Encryption didn't make a difference years ago so I seriously doubt it does nowadays

meltbanana said:
but shouldn't it be even possible to use a whyred GSI on jasmine too? it's a treble phone.
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well miui is device dependent (no plans to make a gsi style image that runs on any treble phone. if xiaomi decided to make one it would be pretty awesome though!) so you can;t run the whyred miui on jasmine. you could maybe port the one from wayne (mi 6x) without too many issues, in fact i think i saw a thread on en.miui.com.
gsi images might work on both yes since they're both shipping with 8.1 (but there's not really needed on jasmine, it's already "clean" android).
but yes, if you want a fair comparison, a gsi running on both might be a better test.

mingogomes said:
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
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I wish someone would have told Microsoft that about 25 yrs ago... every new version of the OS (that they rushed to market) had 1,000s of bugs that were fixed later on. I don't think mfg's really care about what you want "NOW".

laviniu_c said:
you could maybe port the one from wayne (mi 6x) without too many issues, in fact i think i saw a thread on en.miui.com.
gsi images might work on both yes since they're both shipping with 8.1 (but there's not really needed on jasmine, it's already "clean" android).
but yes, if you want a fair comparison, a gsi running on both might be a better test.
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indeed, sorry, what I mean is the wayne / mi 6x image, same device with miui

There is bunch of tests on youtube comparing note 5 pro and mi A2, and you can see that in many A2 is clean winner.
So, I believe that this tests depends heavily on tester and apps which they choose to use in the tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRiVCxxH80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRU1omZM84

Not sure what all the fuss is here. This is a budget phone which is plenty fast and has great features for the price. If you want speed and fastest phone you will have to pay at least twice as much. I am coming from an SD835 phone and I hardly noticeable the difference at all.
As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for.

Ah these are crap test and YouTubers, better trust C4etech, Techdroider, revatlas

mingogomes said:
Hey guys,
how is it possible that a SD 636 is faster than a 660 with Android One?
https://newesc.com/test-velocidad-xiaomi-a2-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-5/
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that's a bit ridiculous, but I've even seen a guy on steam who claims his GTX1050 is curbed by nvidia and as fast as a GTX1080 with a tweaked driver.

meltbanana said:
that's a bit ridiculous, but I've even seen a guy on steam who claims his GTX1050 is curbed by nvidia and as fast as a GTX1080 with a tweaked driver.
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It is possible to tweak android to load faster apps, you can find on youtube test between S9+ and P20pro.
S9+ has about 240000 antutu score, while P20pro has about 200000.
P20pro beats S9+ in all standard apps and games, because android learned what apps user use the most, and cache them somehow, leaving S9+ in the dust, in real time usage.
It dosen't mean that it is really faster, but it is tweaked with smarter OS.
In "our" case, note 5 pro vs mi a2, of course, it is nonsense, mi a2 is faster, but miui also can be tweaked.
Also, custom roms are usually also tweaked and are faster then stock ones.

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In "our" case, note 5 pro vs mi a2, of course, it is nonsense, mi a2 is faster, but miui also can be tweaked.
Also, custom roms are usually also tweaked and are faster then stock ones.
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from my experience with the Redmi 4X MIUI is anyway pretty fast compared to Android One on my Mi A1, but rather lousy in regard of doing great shots.
there's other vantages of AOSP-based ROMs like RR, lineage, etc. Now my choice was the Mi A2 only due to the unlock process, improved cam, QC4.0 and CPU.
camera and microphone are definitely an improvement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ti8NsmVGE

Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better

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Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better
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same results here as well, ~190 mb read, 70 ish write (didn't change anything from stock)
what settings did you change?

IO scheduler
Befor that i got 170mb read and 42 mb write

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Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better
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It seems is a common issue then

Yes cause mi 6x is the same specs but its faster than a2 hope xiaomi fix this
not like a1 and a draining kernel wakeup ssusb.7000000 after 15 updates and its remained unfixed

HTC U Ultra no updates since Feb 2018... still safe for daily use?

I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.

Pocket_rocket said:
I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.
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If it is safe? I think it still is, thinking about some who still use android 4.4 to 7. It has of course more exploitable holes in system, but it depends on what you visit online, what you download, apps you use, etc. I think that with the encryption, the stock could be safer than the custom ROMs. I am on Android Q and is not as stable as stock, the camera is also not so stable. I'm using it because this version has better battery life and speed than stock. But that's the story with almost all phones with custom ROM, an adventure .
It is a shame that HTC stopped the support for HTC U Ultra so fast, so we cannot have all.

acristescu said:
If it is safe? I think it still is, thinking about some who still use android 4.4 to 7. It has of course more exploitable holes in system, but it depends on what you visit online, what you download, apps you use, etc. I think that with the encryption, the stock could be safer than the custom ROMs. I am on Android Q and is not as stable as stock, the camera is also not so stable. I'm using it because this version has better battery life and speed than stock. But that's the story with almost all phones with custom ROM, an adventure .
It is a shame that HTC stopped the support for HTC U Ultra so fast, so we cannot have all.
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android Q is better or 9.0 in terms of stability , camera , battery ?
and can we take any legal steps against htc to force them update the u ultra to the pie update as it has to do so as the device should have 2 years of updates , i think a legal case can be made against them
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Pocket_rocket said:
I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.
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i like the stock too , specially in camera as other custom roms doesn't support the focus of camera and the laser autofocus , but now i have a strange bug that the device tries to launch something in a fraction of second and then it doesn't open it . so u see that strange empty pop up that makes the device really bad to use , did u face it ?

EAEmadinho said:
now i have a strange bug that the device tries to launch something in a fraction of second and then it doesn't open it . so u see that strange empty pop up that makes the device really bad to use , did u face it ?
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No, that didn't happen to me so far. The worst problem it has, after two years of use, the battery duration just sucks. It never was that good, not even new, but now I can't stay too far from a charger. I haven't had good experience with third-part replacement batteries in the past, so I am not replacing it for the moment.