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[VIDEO] HTC One vs Galaxy S4 vs Optimus G Pro Direct Sunlight Comparison

I figured some people might want to see what these devices look like when viewed outside in the sunlight.
You guys can draw your own conclusions. I'll remain silent.
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Here's a little redo:
LG Optimus G Pro still gets the short end of the stick here. The video didn't start playing. It is my daily use phone so please don't be outraged and say I'm trying to jack the results.
I love the phone, but the screen's sensitivity falls short IMO when compared to the other ones here. Not a deal breaker. Just takes a little bit more getting use to.

chrisngrod said:
I figured some people might want to see what these devices look like when viewed outside in the sunlight.
You guys can draw your own conclusions. I'll remain silent.
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htc is winner

chrisngrod said:
I figured some people might want to see what these devices look like when viewed outside in the sunlight.
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The SGS4 needs to be on auto-brightness to achieve its maximum brightness levels. Setting it to "max" manually results in 34% less brightness than using it in bright light in auto mode. It's kind of odd but here's the reasoning...
OLED displays are generally not as bright as the brightest LCD displays. There are two reasons for this: first, while OLED power efficiency has been steadily improving they are not yet as power efficient as the best LCDs. Second: there is a marketing obsession for producing ultra thin and light weight Smartphones, which sacrifices much needed battery power. Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly​.http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm

^This is the kind of productive information that allows for better videos.
I will rerun it as I did verify that the GS4 is dimmer under the conditions explained above.
My Note 2 is running CM10.1 so this could be causing different results. It does not behave in the same manner. Auto brightness = 100% manual brightness.
EDIT: I swore I could replicate this under a fluorescent soft box before, but now I can't. Really want to try this out, and it's dark now.

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My Note 2 is running CM10.1 so this could be causing different results. It does not behave in the same manner. Auto brightness = 100% manual brightness.
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It's new on the SGS4. Here's another "feature" that impacts max brightness. Auto Tone caps max brightness at 375 cd/m2. Adapt Display also affects brightness but it's not linear so the impact is hard to measure. Between these three settings all the reviews have been screwed up in terms of brightness evaluation with wide swings in their results because the reviewers didn't know their impact.
The Samsung Galaxy S4's Full HD SuperAMOLED screen is the best AMOLED display we've seen on a smartphone. However if you're noticing subpar brightness some of the time, there's an option in "Display settings" you might want to take a look at. By default, the Galaxy S4 and many other Samsung devices ship with "Auto adjust display tone" turned on. You can find it under Settings > My device > Display > More settings. When enabled, it tweaks the display brightness based on the on-screen image to avoid burning through an excessive amount of juice. Most of the time you might not notice this, but there's an easy way to see its effects. When there's a lot of white space on-screen, "Auto adjust screen tone" will dim the display slightly to save power. The effect is subtle, but jump between a website like Google in the web browser and your home screen and you'll probably notice that after a split second the page is dimmed slightly. That's good if you want to save power, bad if you want to take full advantage of that big, bright screen. So if you favor battery life, you can leave it turned on - after all, it's designed to save power. But to get the brightest possible image on your Galaxy S4, you may well want to turn this setting off.​Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.​

I do believe that I mentioned the auto tone was disabled in which it was.
Under the notes it'll be edited to reflect this information and a link to the test WITH the GS4 in auto mode. Heck the next one will have all of them in auto.
The LG Optimus G Pro is similar to the iPhone in the sense that the manual brightness level impacts the max auto brightness level.

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You guys can draw your own conclusions.
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We here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288003 think that you intentionally set the brightness on G Pro to 76% instead of full brightness on HTC One. That's why One won this test. We think that you might want to retest them again, and set them all to 100% to make the honest competition so to stop spreading FUD

Billy Madison said:
We here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288003 think that you intentionally set the brightness on G Pro to 76% instead of full brightness on HTC One. That's why One won this test. We think that you might want to retest them again, and set them all to 100% to make the honest competition so to stop spreading FUD
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He's not trying to cheat the GPRO look it up on review site they will confirm the ONE has a better and brighter screen it's the best screen out currently on a smartphone.

nullkill said:
He's not trying to cheat the GPRO look it up on review site
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Yes, sir, I did exactly it, review you mentioned states
LG’s IPS display technology is simply the best in the biz.
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Period
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they will confirm the ONE has a better and brighter screen it's the best screen out currently on a smartphone.
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And stop spreading FUD that One's display is top of the pop and best in industry since G Pro is toppest one. It's brighter when set to 100% setting, more vivid, more readable

Billy Madison said:
And stop spreading FUD that One's display is top of the pop and best in industry since G Pro is toppest one. It's brighter when set to 100% setting, more vivid, more readable
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We'll see if Anandtech eventually releases a review of the phone. Nothing, and absolutely nothing beats the depth of reviews on Anandtech. And I also don't get you coming to this forum specifically to look for posts saying your phone isn't as good in this or that feature etc etc. An OPINION was provided on Android Central, fact based on actual measurements are missing for both sides, so everyone just chill out.

ArmedandDangerous said:
An OPINION was provided on Android Central, fact based on actual measurements are missing for both sides, so everyone just chill out.
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You don't read what is written? If I, say, set brightness level on HTC One to 10% and at the same time set G Pro to 100% and then compare them under the sun saying "See, HTC One just doesn't stand up to greatest G pro cause it's dim" would you remain silent? Or you go "Stop, but One is only set to 10%, how do you compare them so wrong?" I think the second
Yes, antiglare coating on G Pro is too bad but in the case of video testing it doesn't matter , sun doesn't reflect from this particular angle of view in the video

[QUOTE=ArmedandDangerous; And I also don't get you coming to this forum specifically to look for posts saying your phone isn't as good in this or that feature etc etc.
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Stop this childish playground attitude. People can post wherever they like, you do not own this space.
This guy has every right to post here especially if it is a comparison thread, and for the sakes of balance we need challenging input....regardless of whether he/she posts things that are subjective/objective.

This is what I posted on the other thread:
If I wanted to cheat on purpose... I don't think I would have pulled the notification bars down. I did so to check however it was very bright and the G Pro was the furthest away from me. No one probably understands how awkward it is to mount a camera while staying out of view of the frame (the camera is pointing straight down), and attempt to do this at your apartment.
It was also noted in earlier in the thread that the GS4 NEEDS to be in auto mode to achieve full brightness. I've left in the notes that this video has issues. It will most likely be pulled when the new one is made.
You know why it was set at 76%? It's because the LG Optimus G Pro is the most sensitive out of the bunch and by accident it was lowered. I already stated I'm no expert.
Feel free to call be stupid, but the LG Optimus G Pro is actually my daily use phone. So I would love for it to win everything.
It's called I was sweating my balls off and did it unintentionally.
Either way you still watched my video and it was still monetized for the people who want to act like an ass. I state that I'm not an expert, and I ask for input.
I would have redone it yesterday, but it wasn't very sunny out.
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HTC one looks the best here, no contest.
TapaTolkien

I've used the LG displays and they are no where near as good as the HTC One display. Review sites can say whatever they like, they are mostly biased and or paid anyway, so it doesn't count. I've used and owned almost all the top spec android phones out in the last 3 years, and size withstanding, for quality and brightness, nothing beats the One screen. Nothing.

biffsmash said:
I've used the LG displays and they are no where near as good as the HTC One display. Review sites can say whatever they like, they are mostly biased and or paid anyway, so it doesn't count. I've used and owned almost all the top spec android phones out in the last 3 years
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What top LG's phones have you used in last 3 years?

chrisngrod said:
If I wanted to cheat on purpose.
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It's great that you spend your own time producing videos that show how devices perform in the "real world" which objective reviews don't often do. AnandTech and GSMArena have posted corrections at times so testing isn't always perfect. People that only want their device to "win" will only be satisfied if it does and will diss you otherwise. Don't let it get you down.

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ArmedandDangerous; And I also don't get you coming to this forum specifically to look for posts saying your phone isn't as good in this or that feature etc etc.
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Stop this childish playground attitude. People can post wherever they like said:
It isn't constructive nor "challenging input" when he goes on the offensive from his first post when the OP has done nothing to deserve. If you questiopn his testing methodology, say it, not spew hate and go on and on about "spreading FUD". Nobody cares to read negative feedback, nor should they be encouraged.
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Here's a little redo:
LG Optimus G Pro still gets the short end of the stick here. The video didn't start playing. It is my daily use phone so please don't be outraged and say I'm trying to jack the results.
I love the phone, but the screen's sensitivity falls short IMO when compared to the other ones here. Not a deal breaker. Just takes a little bit more getting use to.

chrisngrod said:
Here's a little redo:
LG Optimus G Pro still gets the short end of the stick here. The video didn't start playing.
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Yeah, we noticed, but it's really not an issue to raise a rant. And nevertheless I think the sensitivity of touchscreen in G Pro is very good compared to older phones.
Well I might need some help. Could you compare your devices on the point of colors reproduction? Read this topic I can't prove them that G Pro has not got perfect display. Could you compare your HTC One with G Pro and tell is G Pro better or HTC One is better and more accurately calibrated? And not at 100% brightness level of course but at daily office 50% brightness setting

Screen brightness

Anyone else feel like they have to keep their screen brightness on Max most the day? I have always had Samsung devices, which are known for their displays. But this Nexus 6p just seems so dim. I feel my 100% is my Samsung note 4s 60%. Anyone else feel this way? It's just about my only gripe so far with the phone.

Don't feel like that at all. 100% makes me go blind and it's not less bright then the note 5 by much.
So two options:
Bad screen.
glaucoma
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Anyone else feel like they have to keep their screen brightness on Max most the day? I have always had Samsung devices, which are known for their displays. But this Nexus 6p just seems so dim. I feel my 100% is my Samsung note 4s 60%. Anyone else feel this way? It's just about my only gripe so far with the phone.
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That's weird. Like the user posted above me, mine is too bright at 100% also. I have not heard of this complaint before either. Maybe it's defective. These are actually the same amoleds that are made by Samsung. My sgs6 is actually less bright, but my wife's sgs6 is the same on whites and brightness as my 6p.
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Gizmoe said:
That's weird. Like the user posted above me, mine is too bright at 100% also. I have not heard of this complaint before either. Maybe it's defective. These are actually the same amoleds that are made by Samsung. My sgs6 is actually less bright, but my wife's sgs6 is the same on whites and brightness as my 6p.
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Have a look at this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget

Disable adaptive brightness in the display settings. Helps greatly as I went through the same thing recently. Now it's the same as Note 5

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Disable adaptive brightness in the display settings. Helps greatly as I went through the same thing recently. Now it's the same as Note 5
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That was not it, adaptive display was checked. Now it blinds me. I love this phone! Thanks guys!

I had a similar experience coming from the note 4 and also comparing with a friends note 5 brightness at 100% on both phones Samsung was definitely brighter. I didn't think about adaptive brightness though I just disabled that and it is a ton brighter will have to compare again.
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Real Life Review Roundup

Real Life Review Roundup​Here is a round up of some of the reviews of everyday users of the Honor 8.
PERFORMANCE
Overall speed
I have been using Honor 8 for more than a month. Everything is fast and smooth, which can handle almost any apps easily. However, the phone can be very hot when running demanding game like GTA:SA.
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-seanchong
App launch speed
Honor 8 can launch apps really fast. Apps that I use daily are WhatsApp, Facebook, YouTube. It is a real enjoyment to see app loads that fast compare to my older phone.
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-seanchong
Multitasking/RAM
With 4GB, you cannot ask for more. Muktitasking, gaming, you name it. Honor 8 can handle them all. Simultaneously.
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-gopinaidu77
Scrolling smoothness
I have always turned off animation ( just seems useless IMHO). When i bought phone i put on glass screen protector and touch did seem a bit slow in response, so i turned on gloves mode option in settings and now touch response is great, no lags, no having to press just a little harder.
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Heat
My phone does not heat up at all with normal usage. I do not think that I have ever owned or used any phone that stays this cool (including LG v20 that I used for about 2 weeks). This is absolutely terrific.
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-ceroglu
CAMERA
Low light
I love the low light capabilities of this phone!! I've been a big HTC fan for the past six years and loved their cams but this really blows me away considering the price. I really like the Pro mode cause that's where i'm able to take advantage of what this lil thing can do. Here's some shots I took while camping and used the Pro mode for all of it. Long exposure, high ISO...
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-beachparty2k
Photo quality
I just got the phone this Friday. Wife was curious and tested it. She said at worst it was as good as the Samsung S6. That is a good comparison imo.
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-MC FLMJ1G
Video quality
Wish it had OIS. Video is a little shaky, esp at 60FPS.
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-svetius
Selfie quality
I am very impress by the selfie quality...it comes with some nice little neat features that I have come to enjoy....if you use snapchat camera, you will feel right at home. Honor is aiming to attract the "younger" generations and the selfie camera does JUST that. But hey, if you are not into smoothing out those wrinkles, shrinking your cheeks, making your eyes "pop" and detect your "good" side, a simple snap will be just fine.
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Time to take picture (camera launch speed)
" I saw a flying horse today!"
No one will disbelieve your observation because you quickly pulled out your Honor 8 and double pressed the volume down button and snapped a picture in 0.9-1.2 seconds.
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Software (ease of use, features, etc)
I was a bit surprised by the options the default camera app has, just about everything you could ask for and really easy to use. If you just want to take snapshots you really don't need to bother going through the options but when you do it is very straight forward and easy to understand. Even the pro mode is easy to use and understand, much easier and faster than my compact camera. I might just not bring my compact camera along anymore....
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BATTERY
Charging speed
Charge is enought fast , from 7 % to 100 % , about 1h30min .
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Screen on time
Really impressed.
WiFi and LTE all the time on, WhatsApp and Skype protected, web surfing and other normal uses. Better than my old Honor7.
Of course never charged. It took me over 7 hours before I had to put it to charge.
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Standby drain
During the night it drained around 2 % in about 12 -14 hours when I was not using it.
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-Droiderr
Heavy use endurance
Battery life is very very good, unplugging at 07:00 mobile connection until 08:00 then WIFI until 17:00 and then mobile connection until 21:00 i usually get 5-6 hours screen on time 5% remaining.... with my normal usage ( Whastapp, Twitter, Spotify, Reddit, Tinder , Browsing).
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Light use endurance
On my fourth charge cycle since getting it last Thursday, each being charged up from about 20%. Going nearly two days on one charge and am very happy with the H8 so far.
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-Luweewu
DISPLAY
Outdoor visibility (max brightness)
Screen brightness is great even in Auto mode, visibility is great
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Contrast (true blacks)
good black colours nd very vibrant spectrum
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Color saturation & accuracy
Accurate? Nop. The display is way to cold by default. Even on the warm mode I can see a bit bluish. The display need some tweaking. Get it right honor!asap!
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-XenithV
Clarity/resolution
1080p really is more than enough for a 5.2 inch phone, higher resolution drains the battery faster too anyway. Only if you are into VR you can do with a higher res screen, all other applications i really don't see the benefit.
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-Erik1974
Minimum brightness
Update B130 fixed the minimum brightness when set to auto brightness. In a dark environment my phone no longer sets the brightness to an absolute minimum.
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-rik1974

After the B161 OTA, the speaker performs better

Automatic brightness annoyance

Coming from an iPhone i've always used automatic brightness and have found it helpful. Since using it on this phone I have found it either dims too much or not enough, always bright and dark even if I am in one spot. It's much more noticeable on this phone.
Is anybody experiencing similar?

Yeah I feel the same, the auto brightness is not sufficient especially indoors. At night with the comfort view turn on I just manually adjust the brightness to around 30%.

Yup it's pure garbage, often times it will read 0% indoors. Guessing they did it to save battery life. Hopefully an update fixes it.

yea, the G6 has without a doubt, the most annoying auto-brightness I have experienced on any phone I can immediately recall. It's honestly amazing that something as remedial as auto-brightness is something we are still discussing in 2017 as it relates to a flagship phone no less. I am an Android fan, but I do appreciate Apple's ability to at least get the little things right. I want to love the G6 and in many ways I do, but sadly I will be returning mine because it simply frustrates me in some pretty basic areas.

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Install Lux Dash
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I actually have seen that in the past however, I just don't think that in 2017 we should have to be installing 3rd party apps on a $700 phone just to get something as simple as auto-brightness working properly. It's kind of sad.

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I actually have seen that in the past however, I just don't think that in 2017 we should have to be installing 3rd party apps on a $700 phone just to get something as simple as auto-brightness working properly. It's kind of sad.
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I understand what you mean, a premium device should feel PREMIUM. But I won't be returning it because it's the best android device and LG Phone I've used period. I know its annoying but I rather trade the brightness issues that can be easily fix with a 3rd party app without rooting, unlike Samsung's annoying message telling you each time that your volume is too high wild listening to headphones. Sometime you need to justify it with other annoyance from other manufacturers.

I'm coming from an iPhone 7, and I honestly haven't noticed any problems with automatic screen brightness. My only gripe is that the minimum brightness is too high for night reading, but I figured out that this can be resolved by turning on the battery saver if I'm using the phone on the dark.

Got a question about the Google Pixel 4? Ask Me Anything!

Hey XDA,
I've had the smaller Pixel 4 since Google handed out review units at the Made by Google 2019 launch event in New York last week. I plan on spending a few more days with it before writing up a full review, but if you have any questions about the device feel free to ask and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.
I have the 64GB white Pixel 4. I'm using it on T-Mobile in the U.S.

Does TWRP for the pixel 3 work on it?
But really, is battery life atrocious? I use my phone for work and i'm consistantly on it. Currently on pixel 2 regular with stripped out OS and I still have to charge it about halfway through the day

Thanks for taking some of your free time to do this, Mishaal.
I've ordered the same exact phone you've been using for a week or so now. I'm very excited to own another Pixel device again. I have just a few quick questions about the phone:
In your experience, how long does the battery last after a typical weekday/workday?
Can you comment on screen legibility outside during a sunny day? Will I yearning for a High Brightness Mode enabled kernel in the future?
Any other quirky behaviors with network or bluetooth connectivity? I've found that my LG G7 very much dislikes certain bands of the 5 GHz spectrum. Additionally, it seems to get less cell signal strength when compared to other devices in the same location.

How is the speaker quality? If you have any experience with the Nexus 6, how does the speaker quality of the Pixel 4 compare to the Nexus 6? If you have any experience with the Pixel 3, how does it compare with the Pixel 3?
Do you have a photometer? If so, can you measure the brightness of the infrared light that is frontward facing and tell us whether it's on 24/7? I'm guessing it is for the face unlock and also the hand waiving movements. It'd be interesting to know how powerful that is since our eyes can't see it, but could still be harmed by it (if powerful enough)... which I doubt Google would do, but you never know.
If you have a photometer, could you tell us the intensity of the LED light on the back for flashlight mode?
Thank you.

Alcolawl said:
Thanks for taking some of your free time to do this, Mishaal.
I've ordered the same exact phone you've been using for a week or so now. I'm very excited to own another Pixel device again. I have just a few quick questions about the phone:
In your experience, how long does the battery last after a typical weekday/workday?
Can you comment on screen legibility outside during a sunny day? Will I yearning for a High Brightness Mode enabled kernel in the future?
Any other quirky behaviors with network or bluetooth connectivity? I've found that my LG G7 very much dislikes certain bands of the 5 GHz spectrum. Additionally, it seems to get less cell signal strength when compared to other devices in the same location.
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Battery life is as bad as we all expected =\
3 hours SoT for heavy usage (Google Maps navigation + music streaming + Google Camera + light gaming in COD Mobile)...
to up to 5 hours SoT for light usage (social media like Reddit, web browsing in Chrome, local music playback in Google Play Music, etc.)
This is NOT a phone you can take on vacation and expect to last you a full day. You will definitely need a charger or power bank handy.
(Note: I tested with all the standard/advertised features enabled, including AOD, Now Playing, Motion Sense, 90Hz, Adaptive Brightness etc. I also have really good signal in my area so that's not a problem)
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Brightness is too damn low outside! I live in sunny Texas and struggle to see the screen outside. Not sure if HBM exists on this phone since it uses an LG panel.
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No issues yet with connectivity. Haven't used it long enough to come across said issues, though.

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How is the speaker quality? If you have any experience with the Nexus 6, how does the speaker quality of the Pixel 4 compare to the Nexus 6? If you have any experience with the Pixel 3, how does it compare with the Pixel 3?
Do you have a photometer? If so, can you measure the brightness of the infrared light that is frontward facing and tell us whether it's on 24/7? I'm guessing it is for the face unlock and also the hand waiving movements. It'd be interesting to know how powerful that is since our eyes can't see it, but could still be harmed by it (if powerful enough)... which I doubt Google would do, but you never know.
If you have a photometer, could you tell us the intensity of the LED light on the back for flashlight mode?
Thank you.
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1) Speaker quality. I have the Pixel 3 XL I can compare it to, so I'll have to get back on that.
2&3) I don't have a photometer, sorry. Dylan Raga should be able to check that for us, though

@MishaalRahman You mention SOT heavy use and light use. How about just walking around browsing now and again, pictures when the mood strikes, and a phone call and text now and again? Not that concerned about SOT more like daily use. Will it last a full day?
Also there has been some question about the biometric regarding bank and app authorizations from fingerprint to face unlock. Does face unlock work for banking?
TIA

bobby janow said:
@MishaalRahman You mention SOT heavy use and light use. How about just walking around browsing now and again, pictures when the mood strikes, and a phone call and text now and again? Not that concerned about SOT more like daily use. Will it last a full day?
Also there has been some question about the biometric regarding bank and app authorizations from fingerprint to face unlock. Does face unlock work for banking?
TIA
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If you describe yourself as a light user, then it should last you a full day. However, poor signal and high brightness for extended periods could easily cause you to run for the charger. It can last a full day, but I wouldn't plan on it reliably lasting a full day unless you really know your routine.
About face unlock app support: Support is very, very limited right now. Only a few password manager apps and Tasker support it. I don't believe any banking apps do. It will take some time for apps to get on board. Not that it's difficult for them to do so.

Battery life vs the Pixel 2:
Do you know if it's same, worse or better by any chance?

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Battery life vs the Pixel 2:
Do you know if it's same, worse or better by any chance?
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I only used the larger Pixel 2 XL that generation so I can't say for sure, sorry.

Hello,
Can we expect to see any support for facial mocap applications on the Pixel 4?

Battery life at 60hz vs 90hz?
The youtube reviews state the outdoor brightness is insufficient due to the 90hz display. if you switch it to 60hz, do you get more brightness out of the display to make it sufficient for outdoor use?

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Battery life at 60hz vs 90hz?
The youtube reviews state the outdoor brightness is insufficient due to the 90hz display. if you switch it to 60hz, do you get more brightness out of the display to make it sufficient for outdoor use?
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The refresh rate of the panel shouldn't effect the brightness at all. I asked about screen brightness on the previous page, but apparently the brightness in the sun is disappointing. Additionally, because it's an LG panel, there may be no way to boost the brightness in the sun with a custom kernel like you could in the past with HBM on Samsung OLED panels.

Storage question
Hey there, thanks for answering our questions. Do you have the 64GB or 128GB version? How much of that storage is user accessible?

_Yacub_ said:
Hello,
Can we expect to see any support for facial mocap applications on the Pixel 4?
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Yes, but you'll have to wait a few weeks for developers to update their apps to a) target API level 28 or higher and b) switch to using the BiometricPrompt API.
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Battery life at 60hz vs 90hz?
The youtube reviews state the outdoor brightness is insufficient due to the 90hz display. if you switch it to 60hz, do you get more brightness out of the display to make it sufficient for outdoor use?
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No, the maximum brightness won't change.
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The refresh rate of the panel shouldn't effect the brightness at all. I asked about screen brightness on the previous page, but apparently the brightness in the sun is disappointing. Additionally, because it's an LG panel, there may be no way to boost the brightness in the sun with a custom kernel like you could in the past with HBM on Samsung OLED panels.
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Interestingly, the brightness level of the display seems to affect what refresh rate the phone runs at, lol: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-90hz-display-only-works-at-high-brightnesses/
Dylan Raga believes there may still be a HBM toggle since he found one on the Pixel 3 (and that had an LG panel).
HotDogWithMustard said:
Hey there, thanks for answering our questions. Do you have the 64GB or 128GB version? How much of that storage is user accessible?
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64GB model. "System" files take up 14GB of storage.

3D photos on facebook
Have you been able to post a 3D Photo on facebook yet? I know firsthand that it works on Pixel 3.

MishaalRahman said:
I only used the larger Pixel 2 XL that generation so I can't say for sure, sorry.
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It's still too early to say...but forcing 90Hz all the time I'm getting I think...20% more battery life than my 24 months old Pixel 2.
My pixel 2 was factory reset a month ago.
And this is vs my Pixel 4 on the first evening , night (sleeping) and morning+afternoon
I still got 10-11% drain overnight. So I haven't started to check what's draining...if Motion Sense, some system service etc.
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How would you compare the smaller Pixel 4's battery life against Pixel 3XL ? (I would compare to the 3XL because it's the one with worse battery life for last year's models, I own both 3 and 3XL)
Maybe both the SOT and typical Standby Time + your regular bahaviors on smartphone.
Thanks in advance man, I am really considering the smaller one this year.

I've seen the post in the questions and answers section on root. But it is far from clear. Is there going to be a step by step guide on rooting? Not everyone that uses xda is a tech expert.

mikey.wetzel said:
Have you been able to post a 3D Photo on facebook yet? I know firsthand that it works on Pixel 3.
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Sorry..I'm not a Facebook guy. According to cstark27, HDR+ works in the front camera in Snapdragon. The telephoto lens also works.
pbigband said:
How would you compare the smaller Pixel 4's battery life against Pixel 3XL ? (I would compare to the 3XL because it's the one with worse battery life for last year's models, I own both 3 and 3XL)
Maybe both the SOT and typical Standby Time + your regular bahaviors on smartphone.
Thanks in advance man, I am really considering the smaller one this year.
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I would say an average SoT of 4 hours with Motion Sense + AOD + Now Playing + Ambient Brightness is possible, with enough standby time to get you through a full day. But that 4 hours of SoT is NOT heavy usage - I would say a few pics + music + social media. It gets harder to last the full day if you add GPS navigation and gaming into the mix.
Spookymyo said:
I've seen the post in the questions and answers section on root. But it is far from clear. Is there going to be a step by step guide on rooting? Not everyone that uses xda is a tech expert.
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Sadly, it will take some time for TWRP to support the Pixel 4 due to the partition changes in Android 10. That means rooting will require patching the boot image of each release manually and fastboot flashing it. We can do a tutorial, though I'm kind of short on time personally. I'm sure plenty of forum users will have such threads up.