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Is anyone else's Automatic Brightness a little to sensative? My Nexus is constantly getting brighter and darker even by the smallest movement, it's annoying when I'm texting, or browsing the internet. For those of you who will say to turn it off, here's the thing I love that feature but is yours that sensative? Any Fix?
i have the same problem but lately it hasnt been that bad. are u blocking the light sensor when ur texting?
This has been a common complaint since the phone was first released back in January. Unfortunately, I haven't heard of any tweaks that address it.
It's a feature that simply does not work - yet the phones are shipped anyway. HTC reps I have talked to claim it is a software issue, that will be fixed when a future update is released...
Those of you who have theirs already,
POST'EM UP!
There was a reviews thread around earlier...between that and all the "this phone sux" threads, I think you kinda already have it.
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There was a reviews thread around earlier...between that and all the "this phone sux" threads, I think you kinda already have it.
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just thought it'd be nice to have it one place for reference.
you know,in a list form.
Just got mine this afternoon, here are my first impressions:
Pros:
-The screen is absolutely GORGEOUS, one of my biggest issues with past phones (came from the Hero) was the poor quality of the screen compared to, say, an iPhone. This screen blows it away. Its super crisp, very bright and absolutely massive. Its a true joy to browse the web, shoot pictures, watch videos and just plain interact. 10 minutes after I got it I jumped back on my Hero and was amazed at how I ever lasted the 6 months on it.
-Picture quality (still photos), I thought was quite impressive for a phone, and the front facing camera is cool, however it may be a little gimmicky. My dad has an iPhone and I'm sure when the new one comes out he'll get it and I can see us using the cameras to catch up sometimes when I'm down at school, but you do feel kinda silly walking around with the phone in front of your face.
-The phone itself is rather large (obviously), but feels satisfyingly dense and has just the right amount of weight behind it. Feels great in the hand as well.
-The speed is also mindblowing. Everything just plain feels faster, probably because it is. What I found the most improved was navigating the Marketplace, which strangely always felt laggy to me on the Hero. Not anymore, the Evo is literally click-click-click-click DONE. VERY impressive. Text entry also seems very much improved.
Just like any device, it's not without its faults:
-The camera (video), I feel is a little unimpressive. Still it is a very good camera for a phone, it just doesn't pack that same WOW factor as the rest of the device.
-I'm a little worried how the lens itself will hold up, as many have mentioned, the back does rest right on the glass. This is easily fixed with a case though (which I hope to purchase soon).
-SenseUI is also not very appealing to me, I find it incredibly bland and in some sense (no pun intended) flat out ugly. I much prefer the stock Android home. I could also do without the Sprint Bloatware. Both will be addressed with the first custom 2.2 ROM
Things I can't address yet:
-The battery life: I received the phone with approximately 25-30% battery and wanted to run it all the way down before I recharged it fully. I was quite impressed at the lengths I had to go to to get it down to 0. I was watching a live stream on USTREAM, had wifi, gps, sync and bluetooth on, screen on full brightness, and was consistently bouncing back and forth between Google Earth, YouTube and web browsing. Even with all of this, it took 3-4 hours to run down completely. Not bad at all for extremely heavy use
-4G, unfortunately Indy isn't scheduled for 4G until 2012. I should be making a trip up to Chicago soon though and can comment further if requested. There are a ton of people who are in 4G areas who can comment on 4G speeds though.
Anything specific just ask, I'd be glad to address any questions you, or anyone, may have.
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Just got mine this afternoon, here are my first impressions:
-SenseUI is also not very appealing to me, I find it incredibly bland and in some sense (no pun intended) flat out ugly. I much prefer the stock Android home. I could also do without the Sprint Bloatware. Both will be addressed with the first custom 2.2 ROM
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You know if you go to settings>applications>manage applications>HTC sense> and scroll down and click clear defaults, you take off sense.
As soon as you click home it will give you an option for sense or launcher (stock android) and then click automatically choose this option and it will keep whichever you like for default.
However the black notification bar, dialer, and lock screen will all be sense as well. And you cannot have the HTC widgets.
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Just got mine this afternoon, here are my first impressions:
Pros:
-The screen is absolutely GORGEOUS, one of my biggest issues with past phones (came from the Hero) was the poor quality of the screen compared to, say, an iPhone. This screen blows it away. Its super crisp, very bright and absolutely massive. Its a true joy to browse the web, shoot pictures, watch videos and just plain interact. 10 minutes after I got it I jumped back on my Hero and was amazed at how I ever lasted the 6 months on it.
-Picture quality (still photos), I thought was quite impressive for a phone, and the front facing camera is cool, however it may be a little gimmicky. My dad has an iPhone and I'm sure when the new one comes out he'll get it and I can see us using the cameras to catch up sometimes when I'm down at school, but you do feel kinda silly walking around with the phone in front of your face.
-The phone itself is rather large (obviously), but feels satisfyingly dense and has just the right amount of weight behind it. Feels great in the hand as well.
-The speed is also mindblowing. Everything just plain feels faster, probably because it is. What I found the most improved was navigating the Marketplace, which strangely always felt laggy to me on the Hero. Not anymore, the Evo is literally click-click-click-click DONE. VERY impressive. Text entry also seems very much improved.
Just like any device, it's not without its faults:
-The camera (video), I feel is a little unimpressive. Still it is a very good camera for a phone, it just doesn't pack that same WOW factor as the rest of the device.
-I'm a little worried how the lens itself will hold up, as many have mentioned, the back does rest right on the glass. This is easily fixed with a case though (which I hope to purchase soon).
-SenseUI is also not very appealing to me, I find it incredibly bland and in some sense (no pun intended) flat out ugly. I much prefer the stock Android home. I could also do without the Sprint Bloatware. Both will be addressed with the first custom 2.2 ROM
Things I can't address yet:
-The battery life: I received the phone with approximately 25-30% battery and wanted to run it all the way down before I recharged it fully. I was quite impressed at the lengths I had to go to to get it down to 0. I was watching a live stream on USTREAM, had wifi, gps, sync and bluetooth on, screen on full brightness, and was consistently bouncing back and forth between Google Earth, YouTube and web browsing. Even with all of this, it took 3-4 hours to run down completely. Not bad at all for extremely heavy use
-4G, unfortunately Indy isn't scheduled for 4G until 2012. I should be making a trip up to Chicago soon though and can comment further if requested. There are a ton of people who are in 4G areas who can comment on 4G speeds though.
Anything specific just ask, I'd be glad to address any questions you, or anyone, may have.
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I've been to the sprint store and had a chance to play w/ one.
everything seems awesome, except it felt a little jerky,not smooth like the Hero/Eris.
And I noticed a little bit of glitch when going from the camera to home screen too fast. as Sprint has the best plan, I kinda have to go with them.
I just don't wanna think that HTC/Sprint would fudge things up to be cheap. I mean where's the AMOLED love? all in all, I'm sure I'm going to love this phone.
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I've been to the sprint store and had a chance to play w/ one.
everything seems awesome, except it felt a little jerky,not smooth like the Hero/Eris.
And I noticed a little bit of glitch when going from the camera to home screen too fast. as Sprint has the best plan, I kinda have to go with them.
I just don't wanna think that HTC/Sprint would fudge things up to be cheap. I mean where's the AMOLED love? all in all, I'm sure I'm going to love this phone.
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Here's to hoping the jerkiness you experienced is attributed to early software on the device(s). Regarding AMOLED, there's no way HTC could have possibly included a 4.3" AMOLED display in this phone. There are two main reasons why.
1. AMOLED technology is very expensive as it is at 3.7", I can't imagine how much it would cost for them to order 4.3" displays from their providers. There's no doubt that significant cost would have been diverted to us.
2. AMOLED displays are in short supply. The Droid Incredible's been out of stock for a while because HTC can't get enough AMOLED displays to produce the number of Incredibles that would satisfy the demand of the buying public.
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Here's to hoping the jerkiness you experienced is attributed to early software on the device(s). Regarding AMOLED, there's no way HTC could have possibly included a 4.3" AMOLED display in this phone. There are two main reasons why.
1. AMOLED technology is very expensive as it is at 3.7", I can't imagine how much it would cost for them to order 4.3" displays from their providers. There's no doubt that significant cost would have been diverted to us.
2. AMOLED displays are in short supply. The Droid Incredible's been out of stock for a while because HTC can't get enough AMOLED displays to produce the number of Incredibles that would satisfy the demand of the buying public.
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The jerkiness is def a software problem. I'm sure it's because android isn't meant to be on a screen this huge....yet.
2.2 will surely fix it.
thanx for the screen input, I had no idea about an AMOLED shortage.
samsung i9000 has a Super Amoled on a 4 inch screen, but it is also gonna be considered cheap at $500, and stores in the uk have them for upwards of $600 so i guess you do have a point
ps: i do not actually own either of the two phones
edit: but i wont mind $100 more for a display like the samsung
Sounds like you just got a quirky device. I haven't experienced anything like that. I'm amazed at how smooth and responsive it is :/
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samsung i9000 has a Super Amoled on a 4 inch screen, but it is also gonna be considered cheap at $500, and stores in the uk have them for upwards of $600 so i guess you do have a point
ps: i do not actually own either of the two phones
edit: but i wont mind $100 more for a display like the samsung
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That's because Samsung is the company that's producing the AMOLED displays for HTC. Seems like they're cutting the supply they send to them to use in their own devices as of lately. That's why they don't have to charge as much for the devices; they make the displays themselves.
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If that phone was sitting in the Sprint store with everyone playing with it and no task killer installed. I bet every single application was still running and it was still just a lil jerky. I can't imagine people didn't turn all apps and play with it, unless you tried one new out of the box.
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If that phone was sitting in the Sprint store with everyone playing with it and no task killer installed. I bet every single application was still running and it was still just a lil jerky. I can't imagine people didn't turn all apps and play with it, unless you tried one new out of the box.
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no, it was the display model.
so yeah, I'm sure there were alot of apps running,but isn't the point of having all that ram/rom to be able to have a ton of apps running all at once?
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no, it was the display model.
so yeah, I'm sure there were alot of apps running,but isn't the point of having all that ram/rom to be able to have a ton of apps running all at once?
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yeah that is true. I haven't noticed any lag with 21 apps running before I installed a task killer. It was lightning fast. My only con is the power drain when it is sitting overnight. And that apps randomly start up in the background. I see my 3g on and arrows going up and down when it was sitting overnight or maybe that happens when I turn on the screen. I lose a third to half my batter overnight, but someone also said it has to be drained and charged a few times and it will get better. My brother has the 3gS and he said it blows it away.
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Here's to hoping the jerkiness you experienced is attributed to early software on the device(s). Regarding AMOLED, there's no way HTC could have possibly included a 4.3" AMOLED display in this phone. There are two main reasons why.
1. AMOLED technology is very expensive as it is at 3.7", I can't imagine how much it would cost for them to order 4.3" displays from their providers. There's no doubt that significant cost would have been diverted to us.
2. AMOLED displays are in short supply. The Droid Incredible's been out of stock for a while because HTC can't get enough AMOLED displays to produce the number of Incredibles that would satisfy the demand of the buying public.
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AMOLED display is also craptastic in sunlight. Super AMOLED is better though...but obviously even more expensive with more supply issues.
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no, it was the display model.
so yeah, I'm sure there were alot of apps running,but isn't the point of having all that ram/rom to be able to have a ton of apps running all at once?
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They said it would run all of them at once, not that it would work smoothly with them all running at once No matter how much memory you have allocated, there are still limits~
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They said it would run all of them at once, not that it would work smoothly with them all running at once No matter how much memory you have allocated, there are still limits~
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okay, so I just got back from radioshack, And the guy said that he killed all running background apps and live wallpapers, and it still felt jerky(not laggy),but jerky.
my only thought is that maybe I just never noticed it before,coming from a smaller screen. or maybe the display models just aren't up to par.
p.s. I've also been spoiled by custom roms on mt3g
minus a few bugs the only con is that the screen takes up so much realestate that i am always accidentally activating icons on the screen and the 4 onscreen buttons are way too sensitive.
I was about to buy a BB or Nokia for business and use the EVO for fun but so far this phone is working just fine for business. this is a fast device and i haven't noticed any lag and i am running tons of widgets and running apps that constantly update.
forgot to mention that i will be returning it for a replacement on Tuesday for one without a dead pixel.
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okay, so I just got back from radioshack, And the guy said that he killed all running background apps and live wallpapers, and it still felt jerky(not laggy),but jerky.
my only thought is that maybe I just never noticed it before,coming from a smaller screen. or maybe the display models just aren't up to par.
p.s. I've also been spoiled by custom roms on mt3g
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Judging from demos in my own store, I can attest to the fact that as soon as we put a unit on display (whether GPS or phone), it immediately becomes defective It's like a rule.
No jerkiness here...
Only time I experienced lag was when I tried turning on 4G while downloading/installing about 10 apps at once when I first got it, even then it was hardly noticeable.
YouTube freezes up on me when I try switching from HQ sometimes.
MixZing and Last.FM act weird together for me. Sometimes Last.FM will just close and MixZing will start playing music off my SD card randomly. I uninstall MixZing and haven't had an issue after that. Kind of strange.
Supposedly I am in 4G coverage but I don't get very good signal, not sure what that is about. I don't really mind since I use Wi-Fi at home/work. I'd have to play with it more to see if its an actual problem.
Everything else is pretty awesome.
I'm in the market for a tablet, and everything about this thing makes me want it... Spec wise, anyway.
Reading about tons of issues with it, mostly with light bleed, I'm wondering if i should pass this one up.
What would you do, after actually owning one? Any regrets? What way would you like to have gone instead?
I would buy another one in a heartbeat. Love it. The people complaining about light bleed and such are just (literally) looking for anything to complain about.
It's a great device. No regrets.
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The temperature throttling is the biggest issue (if not really the only thing) that was bugging me for the longest time. In short, you'd have to practically sit in a freezer or something to play any demanding games, and even then this doesn't guarantee that the tablet won't throttle due to wattage consumption (in other words, you cannot just sit permanently at the advertised 1.7GHz CPU speed). Games like NFS:MW would slideshow almost at times because of this.
So far, it seems to be less of an issue on 4.2.2 and 4.2.1 custom ROM's, but still present to an extent.
This seems the best bet for me. I just don't want to go through what seems hell and back just to get a replacement if the one i order is defective like so many seem to be. I hate to say that if i want reliability i would have to get an iPad but screwww that.
I'd mostly be using the tablet for netflix, youtube, and web browsing, so as long as i don't have any issue with video playback i shouldn't have a problem getting what i need out of it.
I've changed my mind back and forth more than five times about which tablet to get and this one never leaves the corner of my eye. I need some reassurance!
Since you're not using it for seriously heavy gaming, go for it. It's still your best bet.
About light bleed, I can't notice it in mine unless I crank it up to 90% brightness in a dark room. Not really that much of an issue tbh.
Doesn't warranty cover severe light bleeds?
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Since you're not using it for seriously heavy gaming, go for it. It's still your best bet.
About light bleed, I can't notice it in mine unless I crank it up to 90% brightness in a dark room. Not really that much of an issue tbh.
Doesn't warranty cover severe light bleeds?
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Does that seem to happen with anyone else, being at 90% brightness? If so, i keep my screens at around 30% to keep my eyes from straining. Maybe out won't be a big issue for me
I play shadow gun on it for hours , and only sometimes in hours , does it throttle down, I put down the tablet for a while get something to drink and get back on gaming . Reading and web browsing are an absolute charm. Flipboard is amazing. Dont worry about the Nexus 10 octa , it would probably be released by June , so the tablet is the most powerful one in the market for atleast six months. and the beautiful thing is apps will be optimised for A15s once that comes out , so its a win win for us users.
Tegra 4 is only available after Q4 2012.
Well i ordered one. Crossing my fingers! Thanks everyone
"Should I buy a Nexus 10?"
Yup.
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Well i ordered one. Crossing my fingers! Thanks everyone
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Cheers! You won't regret it. Let us know of your experience with Gnex. :good:
I used several samsung 7 inch before this one as well as several android smart phones. Is the n10 problem free? No, but I grab it before I reach for any of my other devices. I love it and when they fix the few bugs, I will love it even more.
Someone would have to come up with something pretty amazing to make me buy it over a nexus (no microsoft, not talking to you)
I figured some people might want to see what these devices look like when viewed outside in the sunlight.
You guys can draw your own conclusions. I'll remain silent.
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Here's a little redo:
LG Optimus G Pro still gets the short end of the stick here. The video didn't start playing. It is my daily use phone so please don't be outraged and say I'm trying to jack the results.
I love the phone, but the screen's sensitivity falls short IMO when compared to the other ones here. Not a deal breaker. Just takes a little bit more getting use to.
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I figured some people might want to see what these devices look like when viewed outside in the sunlight.
You guys can draw your own conclusions. I'll remain silent.
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htc is winner
chrisngrod said:
I figured some people might want to see what these devices look like when viewed outside in the sunlight.
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The SGS4 needs to be on auto-brightness to achieve its maximum brightness levels. Setting it to "max" manually results in 34% less brightness than using it in bright light in auto mode. It's kind of odd but here's the reasoning...
OLED displays are generally not as bright as the brightest LCD displays. There are two reasons for this: first, while OLED power efficiency has been steadily improving they are not yet as power efficient as the best LCDs. Second: there is a marketing obsession for producing ultra thin and light weight Smartphones, which sacrifices much needed battery power. Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
^This is the kind of productive information that allows for better videos.
I will rerun it as I did verify that the GS4 is dimmer under the conditions explained above.
My Note 2 is running CM10.1 so this could be causing different results. It does not behave in the same manner. Auto brightness = 100% manual brightness.
EDIT: I swore I could replicate this under a fluorescent soft box before, but now I can't. Really want to try this out, and it's dark now.
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My Note 2 is running CM10.1 so this could be causing different results. It does not behave in the same manner. Auto brightness = 100% manual brightness.
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It's new on the SGS4. Here's another "feature" that impacts max brightness. Auto Tone caps max brightness at 375 cd/m2. Adapt Display also affects brightness but it's not linear so the impact is hard to measure. Between these three settings all the reviews have been screwed up in terms of brightness evaluation with wide swings in their results because the reviewers didn't know their impact.
The Samsung Galaxy S4's Full HD SuperAMOLED screen is the best AMOLED display we've seen on a smartphone. However if you're noticing subpar brightness some of the time, there's an option in "Display settings" you might want to take a look at. By default, the Galaxy S4 and many other Samsung devices ship with "Auto adjust display tone" turned on. You can find it under Settings > My device > Display > More settings. When enabled, it tweaks the display brightness based on the on-screen image to avoid burning through an excessive amount of juice. Most of the time you might not notice this, but there's an easy way to see its effects. When there's a lot of white space on-screen, "Auto adjust screen tone" will dim the display slightly to save power. The effect is subtle, but jump between a website like Google in the web browser and your home screen and you'll probably notice that after a split second the page is dimmed slightly. That's good if you want to save power, bad if you want to take full advantage of that big, bright screen. So if you favor battery life, you can leave it turned on - after all, it's designed to save power. But to get the brightest possible image on your Galaxy S4, you may well want to turn this setting off.Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.
I do believe that I mentioned the auto tone was disabled in which it was.
Under the notes it'll be edited to reflect this information and a link to the test WITH the GS4 in auto mode. Heck the next one will have all of them in auto.
The LG Optimus G Pro is similar to the iPhone in the sense that the manual brightness level impacts the max auto brightness level.
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We here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288003 think that you intentionally set the brightness on G Pro to 76% instead of full brightness on HTC One. That's why One won this test. We think that you might want to retest them again, and set them all to 100% to make the honest competition so to stop spreading FUD
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We here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288003 think that you intentionally set the brightness on G Pro to 76% instead of full brightness on HTC One. That's why One won this test. We think that you might want to retest them again, and set them all to 100% to make the honest competition so to stop spreading FUD
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He's not trying to cheat the GPRO look it up on review site they will confirm the ONE has a better and brighter screen it's the best screen out currently on a smartphone.
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He's not trying to cheat the GPRO look it up on review site
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Yes, sir, I did exactly it, review you mentioned states
LG’s IPS display technology is simply the best in the biz.
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they will confirm the ONE has a better and brighter screen it's the best screen out currently on a smartphone.
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And stop spreading FUD that One's display is top of the pop and best in industry since G Pro is toppest one. It's brighter when set to 100% setting, more vivid, more readable
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And stop spreading FUD that One's display is top of the pop and best in industry since G Pro is toppest one. It's brighter when set to 100% setting, more vivid, more readable
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We'll see if Anandtech eventually releases a review of the phone. Nothing, and absolutely nothing beats the depth of reviews on Anandtech. And I also don't get you coming to this forum specifically to look for posts saying your phone isn't as good in this or that feature etc etc. An OPINION was provided on Android Central, fact based on actual measurements are missing for both sides, so everyone just chill out.
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An OPINION was provided on Android Central, fact based on actual measurements are missing for both sides, so everyone just chill out.
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You don't read what is written? If I, say, set brightness level on HTC One to 10% and at the same time set G Pro to 100% and then compare them under the sun saying "See, HTC One just doesn't stand up to greatest G pro cause it's dim" would you remain silent? Or you go "Stop, but One is only set to 10%, how do you compare them so wrong?" I think the second
Yes, antiglare coating on G Pro is too bad but in the case of video testing it doesn't matter , sun doesn't reflect from this particular angle of view in the video
[QUOTE=ArmedandDangerous; And I also don't get you coming to this forum specifically to look for posts saying your phone isn't as good in this or that feature etc etc.
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Stop this childish playground attitude. People can post wherever they like, you do not own this space.
This guy has every right to post here especially if it is a comparison thread, and for the sakes of balance we need challenging input....regardless of whether he/she posts things that are subjective/objective.
This is what I posted on the other thread:
If I wanted to cheat on purpose... I don't think I would have pulled the notification bars down. I did so to check however it was very bright and the G Pro was the furthest away from me. No one probably understands how awkward it is to mount a camera while staying out of view of the frame (the camera is pointing straight down), and attempt to do this at your apartment.
It was also noted in earlier in the thread that the GS4 NEEDS to be in auto mode to achieve full brightness. I've left in the notes that this video has issues. It will most likely be pulled when the new one is made.
You know why it was set at 76%? It's because the LG Optimus G Pro is the most sensitive out of the bunch and by accident it was lowered. I already stated I'm no expert.
Feel free to call be stupid, but the LG Optimus G Pro is actually my daily use phone. So I would love for it to win everything.
It's called I was sweating my balls off and did it unintentionally.
Either way you still watched my video and it was still monetized for the people who want to act like an ass. I state that I'm not an expert, and I ask for input.
I would have redone it yesterday, but it wasn't very sunny out.
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HTC one looks the best here, no contest.
TapaTolkien
I've used the LG displays and they are no where near as good as the HTC One display. Review sites can say whatever they like, they are mostly biased and or paid anyway, so it doesn't count. I've used and owned almost all the top spec android phones out in the last 3 years, and size withstanding, for quality and brightness, nothing beats the One screen. Nothing.
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I've used the LG displays and they are no where near as good as the HTC One display. Review sites can say whatever they like, they are mostly biased and or paid anyway, so it doesn't count. I've used and owned almost all the top spec android phones out in the last 3 years
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What top LG's phones have you used in last 3 years?
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If I wanted to cheat on purpose.
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It's great that you spend your own time producing videos that show how devices perform in the "real world" which objective reviews don't often do. AnandTech and GSMArena have posted corrections at times so testing isn't always perfect. People that only want their device to "win" will only be satisfied if it does and will diss you otherwise. Don't let it get you down.
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ArmedandDangerous; And I also don't get you coming to this forum specifically to look for posts saying your phone isn't as good in this or that feature etc etc.
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It isn't constructive nor "challenging input" when he goes on the offensive from his first post when the OP has done nothing to deserve. If you questiopn his testing methodology, say it, not spew hate and go on and on about "spreading FUD". Nobody cares to read negative feedback, nor should they be encouraged.
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Here's a little redo:
LG Optimus G Pro still gets the short end of the stick here. The video didn't start playing. It is my daily use phone so please don't be outraged and say I'm trying to jack the results.
I love the phone, but the screen's sensitivity falls short IMO when compared to the other ones here. Not a deal breaker. Just takes a little bit more getting use to.
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Here's a little redo:
LG Optimus G Pro still gets the short end of the stick here. The video didn't start playing.
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Yeah, we noticed, but it's really not an issue to raise a rant. And nevertheless I think the sensitivity of touchscreen in G Pro is very good compared to older phones.
Well I might need some help. Could you compare your devices on the point of colors reproduction? Read this topic I can't prove them that G Pro has not got perfect display. Could you compare your HTC One with G Pro and tell is G Pro better or HTC One is better and more accurately calibrated? And not at 100% brightness level of course but at daily office 50% brightness setting
Hey everyone,
So, I've acquired my Z3 from Tmo on Oct 29th, the day it was released. Thus far, I've pretty happy with it. The battery is amazing, although I know it will last me over a day, or more, I'm stuck in my old habits of charging...which I am attempting to get used to better battery life. Anywho, here's my cons with this phone:
-I was using a Samsung Galaxy S3 (T999). The touch screen worked great. This phone though, I've had delays or my touches not being noticed. More so when I first turn the phone on to the lockscreen. If I give it about 10 seconds, it will respond to all touches.
-Along the same lines as the lockscreen not acknowledging all my touches, this also happens during various games or apps. Playing Arcane Legends, for instance, when I attempt to move, sometimes it doesn't. If I retry two or three times, it will then start working.
-I also get crackling sounds during calls, not all the time, but it is often enough. Also, when I have the touch sounds enabled and speakers plugged into it, it often also makes crackling sounds.
-Had many more settings to choose from when I was using Cyanogenmod 11 on my SGS3. I would figure this to be the case, but I do miss some settings, especially some Security-based ones. Maybe there are secret menus?
-I also wished that the LED was brighter... in my opinion it is really dim.
With all that being said, and knowing that Android L is on the way in a few months, I'm more than willing to wait to see is these issues are resolved. If not, I'll be getting a hold of Sony support to resolve these issues.
I'm curious if any of you have had these issues and if you've found workarounds.
As far as the pros, they outweigh the cons noted above. Battery is awesome, responsiveness if awesome, the overall experience is awesome. Works well with anything that I throw at it and its still goes beyond that.
Thanks,
Johnathan
Hey I haven't experienced any touch screen problems what so ever and I'm a heavy long time android user. Call quality is great as well. Not sure what's going on with yours
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pezlomd said:
Hey I haven't experienced any touch screen problems what so ever and I'm a heavy long time android user. Call quality is great as well. Not sure what's going on with yours
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Pezlomd,
Thanks for the reply. Out of curiousity, what are your OS details:
-Android: 4.4.4
-Baseband version: 8974-AAAAANAZQ-00009-06
-Kernel version: 3.4.0-perf-g0ab9f9a (Fri Sep 5 07:22.38 2014
-Build number: 23.0.D.1.123:
Thanks,
Johnathan
Return it, sounds like you got a defective phone.
Elysian893 said:
Return it, sounds like you got a defective phone.
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Ugh... and after I got it the way I want it.
johnathanamber said:
Hey everyone,
So, I've acquired my Z3 from Tmo on Oct 29th, the day it was released. Thus far, I've pretty happy with it. The battery is amazing, although I know it will last me over a day, or more, I'm stuck in my old habits of charging...which I am attempting to get used to better battery life. Anywho, here's my cons with this phone:
-I was using a Samsung Galaxy S3 (T999). The touch screen worked great. This phone though, I've had delays or my touches not being noticed. More so when I first turn the phone on to the lockscreen. If I give it about 10 seconds, it will respond to all touches.
-Along the same lines as the lockscreen not acknowledging all my touches, this also happens during various games or apps. Playing Arcane Legends, for instance, when I attempt to move, sometimes it doesn't. If I retry two or three times, it will then start working.
-I also get crackling sounds during calls, not all the time, but it is often enough. Also, when I have the touch sounds enabled and speakers plugged into it, it often also makes crackling sounds.
-Had many more settings to choose from when I was using Cyanogenmod 11 on my SGS3. I would figure this to be the case, but I do miss some settings, especially some Security-based ones. Maybe there are secret menus?
-I also wished that the LED was brighter... in my opinion it is really dim.
With all that being said, and knowing that Android L is on the way in a few months, I'm more than willing to wait to see is these issues are resolved. If not, I'll be getting a hold of Sony support to resolve these issues.
I'm curious if any of you have had these issues and if you've found workarounds.
As far as the pros, they outweigh the cons noted above. Battery is awesome, responsiveness if awesome, the overall experience is awesome. Works well with anything that I throw at it and its still goes beyond that.
Thanks,
Johnathan
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I'd like to also add, that as far as functionality of the phone itself, the rotating flaps for the exposed ports seems to be a little flimsy and can easily break. This worries me a bit that if they are accidentally snapped off due to slight mishandling... you'll lose your waterproofing.
Also, I don't like that the volume options when using the volume up and down buttons isn't more granular. For instance, when I wanted to increase the SMS notification volume, I had to go through Setting instead of having more volume options when the buttons are pressed. Did I miss a setting?
Considering getting it replaced to see if that's the issue with the touchness delay or crackling sounds.
Thanks,
Johnathan
johnathanamber said:
I'd like to also add, that as far as functionality of the phone itself, the rotating flaps for the exposed ports seems to be a little flimsy and can easily break. This worries me a bit that if they are accidentally snapped off due to slight mishandling... you'll lose your waterproofing.
Also, I don't like that the volume options when using the volume up and down buttons isn't more granular. For instance, when I wanted to increase the SMS notification volume, I had to go through Setting instead of having more volume options when the buttons are pressed. Did I miss a setting?
Considering getting it replaced to see if that's the issue with the touchness delay or crackling sounds.
Thanks,
Johnathan
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The phone comes with an extra USB cover, won't lose anything. MicroSD/Sim shouldn't come off very often. I don't think you need be concerned.
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The phone comes with an extra USB cover, won't lose anything. MicroSD/Sim shouldn't come off very often. I don't think you need be concerned.
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Elysian893,
I am not concerned for my own experience, however I can see where this can be an issue.
Waiting for my DK48 magnetic dock to arrive, which will alleviate my concern.
Thanks,
Johnathan
Johnathan,
I've experienced some crackling/popping when on a call without using my headset. After a reboot though, it seems to have gone away. The last 2 days, my battery began lasting no more than 5-6 hours. I thought that it might have something to do with an app, so I began experimenting and found that the Sony Photo upload service was hanging, and also Lookout was scanning everything constantly. I uninstalled Lookout and disabled the Sony uploads and things seem to have returned to normal, although I will need another day or so to evaluate.
FWIW, here is my review I posted over the weekend:
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Never owned a Sony phone but now I "have a Sony for my Owny" (older folks will get this line)! I must say - I am in love with one caveat - that being a locked bootloader. Pretty disappointed in that however I was happy to read a page or 2 back that I will likely still be able to root which is really all I care about. That said, the bloatware on the D6616 is minimal, so aside from liking to try out new ROM's and removing ads, I guess I can live with that one "caveat".
The phone itself is gorgeous - in fact, I told my wife that it's almost as sexy as she is (yeah - I take my phone's pretty seriously )! I love its size - I had a OnePlus One which I was pretty happy with, but being an average size guy (that's being generous), I found it really difficult to use it with one hand. The Z3 has a slightly smaller screen size vs the OPO, but the overall build size is proportionally smaller as well, making it even more attractive size-wise. Of course, the other side of that coin is that the OPO has a non-slip back in the 64gb version which was really nice, however I see that wearing out over time. The Z3 is slippery meaning I will likely cover the beautiful beast with a case - but we'll see if I end up keeping a case on it. I've always been one to believe that if you have insurance and a beautiful device, covering that device with a case is counter-intuitive. I'm torn on the case thing - time will tell.
The phone is incredibly smooth and responsive, the speaker is pretty loud and sounds good, and the camera is arguably the best available on a phone. Not sure I like all the options the camera offers - many or pretty hokey - but the picture quality is just brilliant. Overall, this phone may last me more than a year which would beat my last two phones. You see, I have "NewPhone-itus" and it's a serious case!
If anyone has any questions - fire away and I will do my best to answer!
I'm surprised at the z3 hate on xda. With all the complaints about the camera, build quality, software issues, etc, I find myself getting paranoid looking for problems with the phone. The truth is that it's a pretty great phone so far. Great battery, great camera, fast and responsive, and yes, as sexy as shermcraigs wife ?. A week in and I'm happy with my trade from my m8.
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I'm surprised at the z3 hate on xda. With all the complaints about the camera, build quality, software issues, etc, I find myself getting paranoid looking for problems with the phone. The truth is that it's a pretty great phone so far. Great battery, great camera, fast and responsive, and yes, as sexy as shermcraigs wife ?. A week in and I'm happy with my trade from my m8.
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Its not that the phone itself is bad per say, its the lack of consistency/quality control. I am on my 4th one here due to various issues from indented frame to bad camera to light bleed to massive screen gaps. Thanks to T-Mobile 14 day policy I was able to through so many phones. A rep had to open 5-6 phones to give me a good one when I got my third only to find it has a massive ligh tleak on on side. The one I got today thank god is finally issueless so far at least. My local T-Mobile store is sending many back to Sony, they are actively opening boxes, checking for defects and returning before even giving to customers.
I have owned phones from practically every company, this is the first time I have had to return a phone, let alone 3. All companies have issues with initial batches but this was just too widespread. I am sure future batches will be rectified, its one of the down sides of immediately adopting a new model as soon as release.
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Its not that the phone itself is bad per say, its the lack of consistency/quality control. I am on my 4th one here due to various issues from indented frame to bad camera to light bleed to massive screen gaps. Thanks to T-Mobile 14 day policy I was able to through so many phones. A rep had to open 5-6 phones to give me a good one when I got my third only to find it has a massive ligh tleak on on side. The one I got today thank god is finally issueless so far at least. My local T-Mobile store is sending many back to Sony, they are actively opening boxes, checking for defects and returning before even giving to customers.
I have owned phones from practically every company, this is the first time I have had to return a phone, let alone 3. All companies have issues with initial batches but this was just too widespread. I am sure future batches will be rectified, its one of the down sides of immediately adopting a new model as soon as release.
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But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
ShermCraig said:
Johnathan,
I've experienced some crackling/popping when on a call without using my headset. After a reboot though, it seems to have gone away. The last 2 days, my battery began lasting no more than 5-6 hours. I thought that it might have something to do with an app, so I began experimenting and found that the Sony Photo upload service was hanging, and also Lookout was scanning everything constantly. I uninstalled Lookout and disabled the Sony uploads and things seem to have returned to normal, although I will need another day or so to evaluate.
FWIW, here is my review I posted over the weekend:
___________________________________________
Never owned a Sony phone but now I "have a Sony for my Owny" (older folks will get this line)! I must say - I am in love with one caveat - that being a locked bootloader. Pretty disappointed in that however I was happy to read a page or 2 back that I will likely still be able to root which is really all I care about. That said, the bloatware on the D6616 is minimal, so aside from liking to try out new ROM's and removing ads, I guess I can live with that one "caveat".
The phone itself is gorgeous - in fact, I told my wife that it's almost as sexy as she is (yeah - I take my phone's pretty seriously )! I love its size - I had a OnePlus One which I was pretty happy with, but being an average size guy (that's being generous), I found it really difficult to use it with one hand. The Z3 has a slightly smaller screen size vs the OPO, but the overall build size is proportionally smaller as well, making it even more attractive size-wise. Of course, the other side of that coin is that the OPO has a non-slip back in the 64gb version which was really nice, however I see that wearing out over time. The Z3 is slippery meaning I will likely cover the beautiful beast with a case - but we'll see if I end up keeping a case on it. I've always been one to believe that if you have insurance and a beautiful device, covering that device with a case is counter-intuitive. I'm torn on the case thing - time will tell.
The phone is incredibly smooth and responsive, the speaker is pretty loud and sounds good, and the camera is arguably the best available on a phone. Not sure I like all the options the camera offers - many or pretty hokey - but the picture quality is just brilliant. Overall, this phone may last me more than a year which would beat my last two phones. You see, I have "NewPhone-itus" and it's a serious case!
If anyone has any questions - fire away and I will do my best to answer!
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I would seriously doubt it - he was exchanging a bad unit,
not returning. Big difference.
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But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
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jhun80 said:
But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
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No fees, because its a defect and you are asking for the same model. Fee is only if you switch models.
abhinav.tella said:
No fees, because its a defect and you are asking for the same model. Fee is only if you switch models.
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really? because i used to have a black s4, and switch to white version but they charged me $50
jhun80 said:
really? because i used to have a black s4, and switch to white version but they charged me $50
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Did you do it within the first 14 days?
Maybe color change constitutes the equivalent of model change.
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Did you do it within the first 14 days?
Maybe color change constitutes the equivalent of model change.
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yup within 14days
I haven't experienced any lag with the touch screen, but I've experienced slow screen rotation.
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yup within 14days
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My sister exchanged her white GS4 for another white one due to yellowish tint on top, they did it for free. I think because you just wanted a color change and there was no defect they charged you.
I have T-Mobile.
My only gripe is that there is no Group MMS built in. It really, really sucks. And it is causing me to return this phone in a few days. I can use Textra (or Google Hangouts) for Group MMS, but it will not send them out when WiFi Calling is enabled. I know there is a "WiFI Calling fix" option specifically for T-Mobile phones when using Textra, but all that does is disable WiFi when sending/receiving MMS messages and then re-enables it. That completely defeats the purpose of WiFI Calling if you're not going to have service in a certain area.
Group MMS is extremely important to me. For whatever reason, only stock messaging apps have the capability of utilizing T-Mobile's WiFi Calling to send/receive MMS. (SMS works fine).
My HTC One m7 had the ability to do it with its stock messaging app. So, for now, I have no choice but to return my phone, fight the $50 restocking fee, and go back to my paid off HTC One. I am speechless that this phone does not support it.