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LG G4 Review after 1 Month. My 2 main gripes with the G4 is the touchscreen sensitivity issue I've been getting lately (not sure if it's just my unit) and the battery life. Haven't been able to get through a full day yet. Would also like to know if any of you have the problem with frame drops when scrolling through 20+ notifications.
Other than that, it's pretty solid!
My review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85FDEDTSuAA
devon4786 said:
LG G4 Review after 1 Month. My 2 main gripes with the G4 is the touchscreen sensitivity issue I've been getting lately (not sure if it's just my unit) and the battery life. Haven't been able to get through a full day yet. Would also like to know if any of you have the problem with frame drops when scrolling through 20+ notifications.
Other than that, it's pretty solid!
My review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85FDEDTSuAA
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The update that has been released (US at least) fixed the touchscreen issues. I haven't taken it yet until root comes out. I should also be able to fix battery life with root as well to see what specifically is draining it and get rid of it.
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The update that has been released (US at least) fixed the touchscreen issues. I haven't taken it yet until root comes out. I should also be able to fix battery life with root as well to see what specifically is draining it and get rid of it.
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Ah, nice to know. Will be doing the same here.
I will probably be switching to one plus two, nexus 2015 (or upcoming HTC aero flagship) if nothing changes
lack of root and custom ROMs (cyanogenmod in particular) is killing me as LG UI lags and looks awful (switching to custom launcher does not fix all of the issues), also I want to be able to install adblock..
regarding battery I am not able to get more than 3.5h of SOT with fixed brightness at 65% - the most SOT I've had was 4h5min (and this is with GPS, bluetooth, NFC disabled and only viber, gmail, weather widget and facebook sync on)
double tap to wake is horrible to use as it does not register taps properly so i have to tap multiple times before the phone wakes up..driving me nuts
sound is really bad (especially compared to sony z1 i had previously) - headphones lack bass and volume isnt as loud
positives:
screen and cameras are brilliant, handling is ok (have the plastic back, but it did not slip once), phone feels solid in hand
I can't believe one of the complaints isn't no root
I can't believe LG won't let us unlock the non Euro H815s...
ixrs said:
I can't believe one of the complaints isn't no root
I can't believe LG won't let us unlock the non Euro H815s...
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I was waiting for someone to list this as a complaint as if no other phone that gets released doesn't have a gap in time where root isn't available.
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Also, battery drain isn't always a phone issue as well. Many times it's also an OS issue. S6 has battery issues too
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ixrs said:
I can't believe one of the complaints isn't no root
I can't believe LG won't let us unlock the non Euro H815s...
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It's not LG, it's the carriers.
Actually it IS LG, not the carriers. Carriers can be blamed for ATT, T-mobile, Verizon, etc. versions of the phone being locked. There's no reason why the USA H815 variant or the Unlocked Taiwan H815 variants don't have bootloader unlocks other than the fact that LG is lazy.
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I was waiting for someone to list this as a complaint as if no other phone that gets released doesn't have a gap in time where root isn't available.
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Yes and many phones don't have that gap. For example, HTC unlocked One m7 from the get-go. Hence it's a legitimate complaint. By your logic, as long as one other product has the same flaw you can't comment on that flaw.
I'm not expecting everything to be unlocked (like the carriers), but it's not an unreasonable expectation to think H815's of all regions (non carrier affiliated) should be unlocked.
i've taken the ota update (was automatic as soon as the store turned it on) and i still notice some touch issues, not too much a nuisance as just something i notice and have to think about. no issues at all with dt2w/dt2s, both work equally well. battery is great for me, well over a day, and i have screen on times well over 2 hours or more and leave nfc, wifi, lte, gps all on all the time, leave brightness at auto.
also to the OP, dont think i have had that many notifications so cant speak to that, but sometimes scrolling through a long list in settings or something similar sometimes lags. for a phone with 3gb ram i would not expect that, but once we get some bloat off that might change
FWIW, Google finally recognized the mobile drain bug
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The update that has been released (US at least) fixed the touchscreen issues. I haven't taken it yet until root comes out.
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Why is that ?
I should also be able to fix battery life with root as well to see what specifically is draining it and get rid of it.
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can do this without root. LG did not disable app ops.
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Actually it IS LG, not the carriers. Carriers can be blamed for ATT, T-mobile, Verizon, etc. versions of the phone being locked. There's no reason why the USA H815 variant or the Unlocked Taiwan H815 variants don't have bootloader unlocks other than the fact that LG is lazy.
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How about LG would prefer to contain any damage to just one area and only release it once it been tested. Sounds plausible ?
Yes and many phones don't have that gap. For example, HTC unlocked One m7 from the get-go. Hence it's a legitimate complaint. By your logic, as long as one other product has the same flaw you can't comment on that flaw.
I'm not expecting everything to be unlocked (like the carriers), but it's not an unreasonable expectation to think H815's of all regions (non carrier affiliated) should be unlocked.
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Which many phones. The xperias have a lag, then there is more lag for the roms to catch up. To enjoy your xperia with mature roms you're looking at 6-10months after launch.
What happens then ? people upgrade to the next model and can't handle the transition. Why upgrade in the first place. Why not wait. it took this long to get your device exactly the way you wanted it. Why dump it and go for the latest & greatest.
I might jump on that N5 2015 or OnePlus 2 ship as well. I'll definitely keep the G4 for it's brilliant camera though..but I NEED my fix of pure Android haha
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I might jump on that N5 2015 or OnePlus 2 ship as well. I'll definitely keep the G4 for it's brilliant camera though..but I NEED my fix of pure Android haha
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Right, this is something people will have to decide on, unlock that bootloader and that awesome camera is history.
Nice review man, cinematic. The accent cracked me up, don't hear 'trini' accents very often
Like the camera stand did you make it.
What I found was the biggest slow down of the device was the clip tray. If I didn't clear it every now and than device would crawl
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Unlocking the boot loader causes damage? What kind of silly FUD is that?!
And many devices meaning all Nexus devices, the Motorola devices I've used, as well as HTC's flagship have unlockable bootloaders from the start.
But that's not the point. As long as one device on Earth has no unlock lag, then it is considered a drawback vs the other device.
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Unlocking the boot loader causes damage? What kind of silly FUD is that?!
And many devices meaning all Nexus devices, the Motorola devices I've used, as well as HTC's flagship have unlockable bootloaders from the start.
But that's not the point. As long as one device on Earth has no unlock lag, then it is considered a drawback vs the other device.
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Some phones unlocking BL causes breaks and other issues with other programs in the phone, most times camera I believe
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ixrs said:
Unlocking the boot loader causes damage? What kind of silly FUD is that?!
And many devices meaning all Nexus devices, the Motorola devices I've used, as well as HTC's flagship have unlockable bootloaders from the start.
But that's not the point. As long as one device on Earth has no unlock lag, then it is considered a drawback vs the other device.
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losing the nexus & motorola camera isn't a big deal you prolly want to use 3rd party cameras with them anyway. so no big loss.
the xperias require you to wait until the vendor tells you its ok to unlock the bootloader. Do it any earlier and you are hosed.
i suppose htc has something similar. One hopes LG will follow suit here. Otherwise its camera 2api and raw for every shot.
samsungs are problematic. unlock the bootloader, blow away the stock firmware and the camera and you are left with will be 3rd party only. Stock based roms only. If that floats your boat then great but the whole point is to get away from stock.No AOSP.
Feel free to tell me otherwise
devon4786 said:
LG G4 Review after 1 Month. My 2 main gripes with the G4 is the touchscreen sensitivity issue I've been getting lately (not sure if it's just my unit) and the battery life. Haven't been able to get through a full day yet. Would also like to know if any of you have the problem with frame drops when scrolling through 20+ notifications.
Other than that, it's pretty solid!
My review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85FDEDTSuAA
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Where can i find that wooden back cover?
One Twelve said:
samsungs are problematic. unlock the bootloader, blow away the stock firmware and the camera and you are left with will be 3rd party only. Stock based roms only. If that floats your boat then great but the whole point is to get away from stock.No AOSP.
Feel free to tell me otherwise
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what do you mean no aosp roms for samsung devices? ever heard of Slim or CyanogenMod? LMAO
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Where can i find that wooden back cover?
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its a sticker or skin
https://dbrand.com/shop/lg-g4
I was having severe battery issues. My phone was hot to the touch all of the time. It all went away when I factory reset the phone. My theory is it needed a factory reset after the update I received the first time I turned it on.
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I'm tired of this planned obselesence bull. It has the same exact camera. If I don't see high bitrate 4k, 60fps 1080p, and manual video control I'm done. Furthermore, I better not see any UI improvements that won't be present on the G4 in a near future time.
If they do any of this nonsense on a year old, marketed, FLAGship, I'm finished. At that point I'll know the path they are taking with their phones and what they think of their consumers.
I see what you mean but we live in such system, now more than ever, programmed obsolesence is the first reason phone's are sold. We can't do nothing really, what we can do is stopping buying but no one will do that because for one that not buy there are millions that buy, try to port features or just use alternative apps.
Yep, then don't buy. Vote with your wallet, eventually these companies would understand why their sales are dropping. I've already sold my LG G4
I jumped ship this evening and ordered the 6P. I've had several awful days of lock ups, lag, bad touchscreen response, weird graphic glitches, etc. Just done.
laurasaurisrex said:
I jumped ship this evening and ordered the 6P. I've had several awful days of lock ups, lag, bad touchscreen response, weird graphic glitches, etc. Just done.
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6p too here soon, hopefully.
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What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
afrojoc said:
What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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Marshmallow. Soon a **** load of roms
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afrojoc said:
What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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Hmmm.. An open conversation between developer and consumer? At least with Google, you KNOW you have at least a year before they will release their next flagship. I bought the G4 and LITERALLY the next day the V10 leaks started! Also... frequent updates without carrier bs (I'll never forget the update I got on my last phone.. when everyone else was getting Lollipop, AT&T pushed out an update that installed UBER and AT&T Live on my damn phone lol). The Nexus will have a vibrant developer community that isn't hobbled by locked bootloaders and carrier restrictions, and a Fingerprint scanner to name a few. But, the G4 does have some features that I don't think you'll find on the 6p! Namely, horrible touch-screen response, lag that appears out of nowhere, a plastic back that can get so hot I'd swear it was metal. Sorry for the pessimism but this is only my 2nd Android phone and I'm batting 0/2 as my first was the AT&T variant of the Galaxy S5 (RIP Safestrap!) and I'm done with this crap lol. As soon as possible, I'm hitching my horse to a Nexus and never looking back! PS I forgot! The 6P has that giant Cyclops eye on it's backend! Also, having said all that, the developers that are working here on the G4 are amazing! The fact that they've been able to do what they have despite the restrictions is awesome!
I will definitely miss the manual camera, I think LG did a great job with that, and I'm disappointed that Google has not included manual settings in the stock camera. But there are other manual camera apps for that. I've been hunting down camera comparison shots for weeks, looking to see that the 6P can hold it's own, and I'm confident in all the test shots I've found. It's less a question on what the 6P has than what it DOESN'T have. I have reached the end of my patience with the bad performance of the G4 that I'm willing to lose some (if any) camera quality to gain stability and reliability. It's true that you gain a thriving development community with Nexus, but the development on the G4 didn't bother me to begin with. I'm perfectly happy with just root! It's a shame, because I had a G3 which I loved.
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I've said this for years xD I'm no longer buy Apple devices or Samsung devices. I'm only left with LG, Sony and the smaller brands. Haha.
Every company does this, so, if this happens now, I won't have another LG. These companies just keep trying to sell more and more phones every year.
I'm also crossed that LG doesn't allow longer exposures for third party apps so you don't have 30 sec. exposure times.
I must say that from all the brands. I was the most satisfied with HTC. (had One M7). Good updates, has google play edition. Awesome policy. Too bad that when G4 came out you really didn't have a good camera phone except it and S6.
Too bad, the companies are shifting to this practice. As @Mad_Duke said the HTC M7 was the phone I liked the most (except for the camera). For the past 1,5 years I owned Sony (Z3), OnePlus (One), Samsung (S6/920F) and now the G4. I have to say that Oneplus was the most satisfying overall. All big names are unfortunately doing their own practices to sell more phones. Sony was slow at releasing 5.0 (and when it got released it was a "crippled" update), Samsung puts too much bloat and do not release the full documents for the Exynos, thus the development is slow. So far LG is kind of OK, at least you can flash some of the updated apps. However, if you want the fastest and most developed phones, you have to go with Nexus (or OnePlus like) devices.
I kinda expected manual camera for g3 when g4 came out. However, seeing a reality of thos bussiness I can see why they need to constantly shell out new products and plan the software obsolence of the older ones - because market (all of us) demands it. We need new models, company just cant sell same phone for 2 years and just shell out the updates (even with nexus5 we started demanding new models).
Vallet voting, just that.
I hope your post is a joke!
I had Nexus 4 before,and even if it was a Google device,I never had manual camera(with third party App),HDR+ or other improvements.
The same is happened with Samsung,Sony and Apple.
So what are we talking about?
If you want devices that has improvements in camera you should buy a Windows Phone.
After updates,even Lumia 520 has Manual Camera.
What a stupid thread
I have had marshmallow since day one ableit custom rom
Unlocked bootloader h815
Lg are a business in a cut throat market with so much choice for the consumer
You cannot live without the extra features? Wow lol
Imho its the best phone of 2015
Wow... just wow. Some of you guys are expecting waaay to much. It's not like other companies/phones bring all the latest **** to their older phones. The V10 has extra hardware to make some of the new video features work, so no, you probably won't get these features.
Also, LG is the first non-nexus to update to marshmallow but for some this still isn't fast enough. They offer fine support for this phone, realize normal consumers don't care if updates like these take longer (see Samsung) but LG is offering it way faster anyway.
The G4 looks very attractive right now.
The v10 is bigger, in size. Great video if you need it.
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Cloudus91 said:
I hope your post is a joke!
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tinkerers get bored when there is nothing left to tinker with
I had Nexus 4 before,and even if it was a Google device,I never had manual camera(with third party App),HDR+ or other improvements.
The same is happened with Samsung,Sony and Apple.
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S6 still does not have shutter control in the UI, the s6e+ & note 5 which came out only 3 months later have it.
S6 has raw and shutter in the api so if you use a 3rd party app you can use it but everybody wants to do this in the stock app.
The Z5 has shutter control, still no raw. Previous xperias have no shutter control because companies lock down the camera api to the point that the only reliable camera app you can use is the stock one.
So what are we talking about?
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he basically wants out and is trying to find a pretext, not necessary.
If you want devices that has improvements in camera you should buy a Windows Phone.
After updates,even Lumia 520 has Manual Camera.
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not really, the 930 languished for a couple of years after it launched. Its successor is two years late, the 950 but the OS is difficult to deal with without google services integration.
its true nokia camera interface is ahead of the curve and is available even on budget devices. But OIS, lens, bigger sensor and image processing requires more cpu is only present on higher end models. The 830 has ois. The 1020 can't do 4k.
G4 has been a POS since day one with the exception of the fantastic camera. I cannot believe that ppl are still here when you got phones like the Note 5 and 6P on the market. A removable battery and SD card slot does not solve lag and touchscreen issues....
Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
qer0si said:
Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
vijaykanth said:
I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
qer0si said:
I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!
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Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!
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From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.
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From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.
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Yep, LG and its code of ethics has hurt developers and hardcore users big time. In one way I guess you have to agree to it as well, because it is indeed great to see a firm that cares about security and user information safety (unlike the OnePlus which blatantly takes user info, but can be avoided after installing a custom ROM, which is why we buy Android smartphones )
I am hoping to not think of any other device for another 2-3 years at least. If the new OnePlus that's coming out later this year or early next year is good then I'll definitely exchange the OnePlus 5 for that. Smartphone buying has become hectic!
To the moderator of this thread: You can close this thread!
vijaykanth said:
I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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His question was valid and met guidelines so please keep your opinions to yourself if they are not helpful to the initial post. You will be reported next time, the forums here do not support stifling of valid questions and support. Strike one.
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A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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Why not just trade phones with your friend?
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Why not just trade phones with your friend?
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He thinks my model being the Korean one is gonna show problems soon lol, oh and he has the white color which I really don't like because it makes the black line between the body of the phone and the screen noticeable.
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I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Sell it and buy the LG G6 US997 from B&H they are all bootloader unlockable its the US version NOT US Cellular and they are cheap as well hope this helps ya link enclosed below
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1322815/lg_g6_us997_32gb_smartphone.html
I'm beginning to feel completely misled about the Android 1 program. December and still no Oreo, I was thinking of a Pure Android with instant first in line updates to the latest software, similar to the Nexus and Pixel phones. My friend with an old One plus 3 received Oreo in Early November.
Also, this is not pure android. It's preloaded with Miu junkware.
Of particular interest is the feedback hub app. Is this a Google or Miu App? I thought the latter and there is no way to remove it from the phone.
I Bought this for the pure android experience and instant updates, but there are better tech/price handsets out there in this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips.
New buyers proceed with a little caution.
What other devices with Pure Android, instant first in line updates and better tech/price handsets at this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips are you reffering to?
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1. Xiaomi promised Oreo by the end of the year. The beta has already rolled out. And will soon be released as promised. I don't see how that's a problem.
2. There's literally no junk in this phone I don't know what you're talking about.. miremote? How else you're gonna use that IR blaster. And micamera app because stock also camera doesn't support xiaomi's dual camera setup. And finally mi feedback.. you should be grateful that they are trying to listen to their customers..
3. OnePlus 3 is also double the price of mi A1. You can't expect flagship phone with on a potato price.
4. Kindly list those phones with better tech screen and 'chips' (lays?) Closest phone with similar spec is Moto g5s plus which costs ₹2000 more than A1. Others don't even have specs remotely close to this one and costs close to ₹20000.
I was was referring to phones that do not have pure Android.
Android One on the Mi A1 is not pure Android either.
My point is you may as well buy another phone because this is not a true pure Android experience. Don't be fooled.
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1. Xiaomi promised Oreo by the end of the year. The beta has already rolled out. And will soon be released as promised. I don't see how that's a problem.
2. There's literally no junk in this phone I don't know what you're talking about.. miremote? How else you're gonna use that IR blaster. And micamera app because stock also camera doesn't support xiaomi's dual camera setup. And finally mi feedback.. you should be grateful that they are trying to listen to their customers..
3. OnePlus 3 is also double the price of mi A1. You can't expect flagship phone with on a potato price.
4. Kindly list those phones with better tech screen and 'chips' (lays?) Closest phone with similar spec is Moto g5s plus which costs ₹2000 more than A1. Others don't even have specs remotely close to this one and costs close to ₹20000.
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You really expose yourself here as a deluded fanboy. My point is the one plus 3 does not have pure android but was updated months ago. Unremovable feedback app points to doctored software and therefore is not pure. THIS IS NOT A PURE ANDROID PHONE. FACT.
There are plenty of better spec Chinese built phones in this range. Do yourself a favour and have a quick browse on gearbest. I know you want to protect your investment by convincing yourself it's great but it really isn't. IR blaster is virtually useless in the modern world and is a cheap replacement for lack of NFC.
This IS pure Android. Having 1 or 2 pre-installed apps doesn't mean it's not pure Android. Name one phone with pure Android except nexus and pixel.
You mean I should rather buy a phone with half hd screen, an older SoC with a single camera which costs more than a1? Even if we consider for a second that it's not pure Android in A1 ( which it is).. its still a great phone and no other phone comes close to this phone in terms of price/spec ratio.
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This IS pure Android. Having 1 or 2 pre-installed apps doesn't mean it's not pure Android. Name one phone with pure Android except nexus and pixel.
You mean I should rather buy a phone with half hd screen, an older SoC with a single camera which costs more than a1? Even if we consider for a second that it's not pure Android in A1 ( which it is).. its still a great phone and no other phone comes close to this phone in terms of price/spec ratio.
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Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.
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You really expose yourself here as a deluded fanboy. My point is the one plus 3 does not have pure android but was updated months ago. Unremovable feedback app points to doctored software and therefore is not pure. THIS IS NOT A PURE ANDROID PHONE. FACT.
There are plenty of better spec Chinese built phones in this range. Do yourself a favour and have a quick browse on gearbest. I know you want to protect your investment by convincing yourself it's great but it really isn't. IR blaster is virtually useless in the modern world and is a cheap replacement for lack of NFC.
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My argument still stands.. they promised Oreo BY THE END OF THE YEAR. Is it January yet? It's not like you got cheated or something.
The is just installed as system app it doesn't mean the OS itself is doctored.. please go and learn about Android before spreading your ignorance.
So you would rather buy a Chinese trash phone with cr*p mediatek processors with no guarantee on its quality than this phone which comes from a decent company.
Lastly NFC is just novelty in the region where A1 is supposed to be sold. Unlike IR blaster which many people make use of.
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Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.
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Camera is rubbish? Are you high on something?
You are constantly saying there are plenty other options .. kindly name those options or we're done here..
Have a good day.
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My argument still stands.. they promised Oreo BY THE END OF THE YEAR. Is it January yet? It's not like you got cheated or something.
The is just installed as system app it doesn't mean the OS itself is doctored.. please go and learn about Android
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If it's installed on the system and you cannot remove it, then it is considered bloatware and the operating system has been doctored.
It is not a pure Android phone. I'm sure there is a thread already that exposes this project as a joint Xiaomi/Google project but run by Xiaomi. Your right about one thing...I should have done a little research into the so called Android One project.
Plenty of >Snapdragon chip phones out there in this price bracket I know it and so do you so stop pretending. And don't talk about power efficiency, that's why you pack a 4000+ battery!
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I'm beginning to feel completely misled about the Android 1 program. December and still no Oreo, I was thinking of a Pure Android with instant first in line updates to the latest software, similar to the Nexus and Pixel phones. My friend with an old One plus 3 received Oreo in Early November.
Also, this is not pure android. It's preloaded with Miu junkware.
Of particular interest is the feedback hub app. Is this a Google or Miu App? I thought the latter and there is no way to remove it from the phone.
I Bought this for the pure android experience and instant updates, but there are better tech/price handsets out there in this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips.
New buyers proceed with a little caution.
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You obviously aren't satisfied with the choice you made, so..sell the phone, buy "better phone in this price range", be happy. It's really as simple as that.
If you really believe that you have been lied to by Xiaomi, there are legal options which you can take. Search Google for legal services in your area, they'll be happy to discuss this point with you.
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Camera is rubbish? Are you high on something?
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Yes, it's really bad. The front facing camera is terrible and the pixelation on the rear is really bad. Forget about night time. And I was coming from a Nexus 5.
Which phone did you own previously?
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You obviously aren't satisfied with the choice you made, so..sell the phone, buy "better phone in this price range", be happy. It's really as simple as that.
If you really believe that you have been lied to by Xiaomi, there are legal options which you can take. Search Google for legal services in your area, they'll be happy to discuss this point with you.
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Another bitter poster who is protecting his investment furiously rather than admitting it's shortcomings.
I did not say I had been lied to and I am fully aware of how to use Google search. But if you really think this matter requires me to seek legal assistance you really are a bit special.
What I am freely admitting is that I should have done more research on the Android One project as it is not what I thought it was. My bad and I learn from my mistakes.
Use a nexus device & u can instantly understand the difference.. Android one programs supposed to have faster updates & be more stable.. A1 is just a half hearted effort from Mi.. Bugs, bugs and more bugs.. Awesome hardware, but crap software.. And android one program is supposed to have os updates pushed by Google..
If u have used a nexus phone, u 'll know how soon they address bugs.. I used Nexus 5 & the first version of kitkat had a vdo recording problem.. It was addressed in just a matter of days.. The contact linking issue has not been addressed even after four or five updates..
That being said if it was just marketed as a Mi phone with Stock os it wud have been alright.. Its value for money.. But it doesnt do justice to the android one tag..
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That being said if it was just marketed as a Mi phone with Stock os it wud have been alright.. Its value for money.. But it doesnt do justice to the android one tag..
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This is what I thought I had bought into. A Mi phone with stock OS.
I was mistaken and should haved looked a little deeper into it. As you said before, this is not even close to a Nexus/stock android experience.
@pow01 : ha ha.. i thought i was the only one coming from nexus 5.. oreo feedback seems to be good.. lets wait & see..
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This forum is full of ****ing retards. They promised Ored by END OF THE YEAR and its still ****ing december and u STILL ****ING COMPLAIN. And just because it has 2 Xiaomi apps doesn't mean its not stock Android. Bloody fools. You complain about fcking everything.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..
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This forum is full of ****ing retards. They promised Ored by END OF THE YEAR and its still ****ing december and u STILL ****ING COMPLAIN. And just because it has 2 Xiaomi apps doesn't mean its not stock Android. Bloody fools. You complain about fcking everything.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..
I came from Nexus 5X and yes, I feel the difference. I have snappier phone which keeps more apps in memory without closing them immediately during multitasking, I'm not experiencing unfinished HDR photos now, etc... I still receive monthly security updates and actually am happy that my device is not the very first one receiving major OS upgrade, as it often breaks many things (TWRP, root, not updated apps). So I'll rather wait couple of weeks or months until all developers catch up and I can continue using my device without hiccups.
I bought phones which I wasn't happy with in the past and guess what, I sold them and purchased something else. But if you feel that posting on forums that you made a mistake is the right way how to solve your problem..well.. be my guest, though not sure how is it supposed to help others.
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I came from Nexus 5X and yes, I feel the difference. I have snappier phone which keeps more apps in memory without closing them immediately during multitasking, I'm not experiencing unfinished HDR photos now, etc... I still receive monthly security updates and actually am happy that my device is not the very first one receiving major OS upgrade, as it often breaks many things (TWRP, root, not updated apps). So I'll rather wait couple of weeks or months until all developers catch up and I can continue using my device without hiccups.
I bought phones which I wasn't happy with in the past and guess what, I sold them and purchased something else. But if you feel that posting on forums that you made a mistake is the right way how to solve your problem..well.. be my guest, though not sure how is it supposed to help others.
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The camera on my Nexus 5 was better than the Mi A1 producing far superior images. I'm not looking to solve my problem I'm just happy to make others aware this is not a stock android experience. What I'm posting is valuable feedback for those thinking about buying one of these devices.
The bottom line is everything has to run through Beijing first before being released rather than coming straight from San Francisco.
I am happy with the phone and VFM (but it's no Nexus)
I am not happy with the way Xiaomi is executing Android One.
pow01 said:
Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.
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The "very old" chip is based on 14 nm technology, how are you calling it old? Sure, its not the most cutting edge, but it fares well when it comes to daily usage.
And yeah, having other camera apps surely would help. I think Mi camera app sharpens up the image a bit more.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..
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You are right. I tried using Google Live Wallpaper on my A1, and it made the whole phone slow! Opening app drawer/jumping to home page, etc felt slower and laggy.
Funny thing is, I was using the same wallpaper on my Redmi 2s. It ran on that phone PERFECTLY FINE!!! No lags, no stutters, and no loss in battery life!! Sure, Redmi 2s has a 720p screen, and I could tell that the animations set to a lower resolution, but I'm disappointed that Mi A1 stutters with such beautiful wallpapers.
Get yo **** together, Xiaomi. Give Mi A1 the Android it deserves.
And to people who are *****ing that it isn't the stockest stockesty android, calm yo tits. It comes very close to Nexus levels stock, save a few apps. But still wish they had included Night Light tho.
Ah, now I see. This explains pretty much everything: "I'm not looking to solve my problem"
"this is not a stock android experience", which is only your opinion. As far I see this is stock android with very similar experience to Nexus devices with the same or better user experience. Obviously we don't have to agree with each other, but as you certainly won't accept another opinion than yours and are not able to discuss politely..so.. Have fun bashing Xiaomi and Google with your utterly useful posts (oh sorry, "valuable feedback" as you call it ).
Use this thread to talk to about what you think about honor not giving us Oreo and saying that the honor 8 doesn't pass software and Hardware specifications for Oreo. Also talk about whatever u want.
BS
Nonsense. Honor... Never again. You made Samsung look more client friendly. F u.
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Bro straight up it's b******* the fact that they said software-related in their official statement is b******* you can always tweak the software, they are so full of s***.
Clearly it is not software-related because the open Kirin team brought us Oreo. Of course there are bugs in there Rom but that's only cus there not the actual company that is supposed to be supplying us updates like wtf if they can bring us Oreo you know damn well that honor can give us Oreo
such a shame but what do u expect from a company like this
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such a shame but what do u expect from a company like this
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Yah that is true, the sad part is I have never heard of them before and bought this phone because I saw the good reviews and the partnership now I know never to buy one again
I will never buy another Huawei phone, and their reasons for not updating are not the specs. I am sure since it is probably one of their most popular phones, adding in all the US buyers, Huawei wants us off this phone so we will buy one of their other phones. Sorry, I am not into Phablets, and now that I see most of these chinese (and some American) phone companies are not updating their phones, or taking their sweet time, I will have to spend more money and buy a Sony/Samsung/Google phone.
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I will never buy another Huawei phone, and their reasons for not updating are not the specs. I am sure since it is probably one of their most popular phones, adding in all the US buyers, Huawei wants us off this phone so we will buy one of their other phones. Sorry, I am not into Phablets, and now that I see most of these chinese (and some American) phone companies are not updating their phones, or taking their sweet time, I will have to spend more money and buy a Sony/Samsung/Google phone.
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Same with you I plan on buying a pixel 3 or a note 10
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Same with you I plan on buying a pixel 3 or a note 10
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Yeah, me too. Rumors have it we may see three Pixel 3 phones this year, one being like the old affordable and smaller Nexus phones they use to produce. I guess I will have to wait it out and see.
kandelai said:
Yeah, me too. Rumors have it we may see three Pixel 3 phones this year, one being like the old affordable and smaller Nexus phones they use to produce. I guess I will have to wait it out and see.
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If that's true thank god! I don't want to spend $1,000 on a stupid phone that I will replace in like 1 or 2 years that's just how I feel yah know.
kandelai said:
I will never buy another Huawei phone, and their reasons for not updating are not the specs. I am sure since it is probably one of their most popular phones, adding in all the US buyers, Huawei wants us off this phone so we will buy one of their other phones. Sorry, I am not into Phablets, and now that I see most of these chinese (and some American) phone companies are not updating their phones, or taking their sweet time, I will have to spend more money and buy a Sony/Samsung/Google phone.
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Well is not a good example for a good update policy either. My gf just got NOUGAT a few weeks back. I mean they actually provide their flagships with two major updates, but they are extremely slow and their software is just slow. I would describe sony as average, I mean they are not fast but faster than most other companies. I think next time Id go with a phone from google, even if they are really f expensive. But even the Nexus 5, a phone I bought in 2013 and sold then, has a ****ton of 8.0/8.1 Custom Roms.
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Well is not a good example for a good update policy either. My gf just got NOUGAT a few weeks back. I mean they actually provide their flagships with two major updates, but they are extremely slow and their software is just slow. I would describe sony as average, I mean they are not fast but faster than most other companies. I think next time Id go with a phone from google, even if they are really f expensive. But even the Nexus 5, a phone I bought in 2013 and sold then, has a ****ton of 8.0/8.1 Custom Roms.
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That's what I'm saying I think everyone should just go with Google Now and hopefully they start selling cheaper phones. Because who in their right mind would want to drop 1K on a phone
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That's what I'm saying I think everyone should just go with Google Now and hopefully they start selling cheaper phones. Because who in their right mind would want to drop 1K on a phone
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Well Apple users Jk, the phones Google sells are actually good, just not for a price like that. I mean the price isnt even dropping otherwise I would have already bought one. They really have to improve their price policy.
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I would describe sony as average, I mean they are not fast but faster than most other companies.
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Sony is not bad at updating, and yes they take their time, but I went through many updates and upgrades on my Sony Z3 Compact, so they back their devices and support them...unlike Huawei. I loved that Sony phone. I was considering the Sony XZ1 Compact, but they disabled the fingerprint reader in the US (yes, I know you can flash a euro rom) but I am going to hold out a little longer and see what Google produces.
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Well Apple users Jk, the phones Google sells are actually good, just not for a price like that. I mean the price isnt even dropping otherwise I would have already bought one. They really have to improve their price policy.
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And the worst part is about Apple users, have you seen all the **** apple has done, slowing down there older phones without telling anyone and all this other stuff. My gf has the iPhone X and it's cool and all but with all the bugs that have been coming with apple, that's a hard pass. And yah Google makes really good phones but the price point that they're selling them at right now it's just not worth it.
kandelai said:
Sony is not bad at updating, and yes they take their time, but I went through many updates and upgrades on my Sony Z3 Compact, so they back their devices and support them...unlike Huawei. I loved that Sony phone. I was considering the Sony XZ1 Compact, but they disabled the fingerprint reader in the US (yes, I know you can flash a euro rom) but I am going to hold out a little longer and see what Google produces.
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I had a Sony Xperia I can't remember what it was but there close to stock android if I'm not wrong right?
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That's what I'm saying I think everyone should just go with Google Now and hopefully they start selling cheaper phones. Because who in their right mind would want to drop 1K on a phone
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LOL...seriously. I had an iPhone 6S before the Honor 8. I was holding out to see what the iPhone 8 and X would deliver, but when they announced basically just upgrades to their camera and that horrible black bar (reminds me of the bar on the Moto Smartwatch) edge screen on their X ...and then dem prices. I was like, now you are just raping your customers. That is when I switched to the Honor 8 ....because it is very iPhone like, and cheap.
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I had a Sony Xperia I can't remember what it was but there close to stock android if I'm not wrong right?
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Close, but Sony has their own UI, at least back then on the Z3 Compact. I am not sure about the latest model. I think I read somewhere (foggy memory) that now it is close to stock.
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LOL...seriously. I had an iPhone 6S before the Honor 8. I was holding out to see what the iPhone 8 and X would deliver, but when they announced basically just upgrades to their camera and that horrible black bar (reminds me of the bar on the Moto Smartwatch) edge screen on their X ...and then dem prices. I was like, now you are just raping your customers. That is when I switched to the Honor 8 ....because it is very iPhone like, and cheap.
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Close, but Sony has their own UI, at least back then on the Z3 Compact. I am not sure about the latest model. I think I read somewhere (foggy memory) that now it is close to stock.
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Bro the iPhone X price point is just ****ing there customers over but she wants an iPhone smh it had to be the newest iPhone I was like whatever ? but your right they basically just upgraded the camera and the look pisses me off. And about the Sony phone yah I think it's close to stock but for some reason my phone always ran hot so I went with the honor 8 next.
Someone just said this. I don't really understand why one model would get Oreo and another model wouldn't. ?