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I am planning to buy MT4G, unlock it and use it on another carrier with compatible frequencies of course. Will I be still able to get updates using for example a wifi connection? or should I download updates manually? Is there something that I will lose when I use the phone on another carrier ?
I don't know if you mean overseas or in any place other than the U.S. but the only "compatible" carrier for this phone besides T-Mobile is AT&T. The reason why compatible is in quotes is because yes the phone would function and make calls on that network, but you will lose 3G and HSPA+ service as AT&T's equivalents operate on a different and incompatible spectrum.
I would also assume that you would not receive OTA updates either.
unremarked said:
I don't know if you mean overseas or in any place other than the U.S. but the only "compatible" carrier for this phone besides T-Mobile is AT&T. The reason why compatible is in quotes is because yes the phone would function and make calls on that network, but you will lose 3G and HSPA+ service as AT&T's equivalents operate on a different and incompatible spectrum.
I would also assume that you would not receive OTA updates either.
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Overseas, on a network that is compatible with regard to GSM/ UMTS frequencies. So the only way to get updates is to download them from forums like this one?
raeef said:
Overseas, on a network that is compatible with regard to GSM/ UMTS frequencies. So the only way to get updates is to download them from forums like this one?
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I don't know for absolute certain, but I'm 95% sure you wouldn't recieve OTA since it goes out over the network your phone is connected to.
You can usually snag the update from here, but unfortunately, a lot of people didn't run aLogcat to log the download and get the link. Including myself, though I'm trying now with my second device.
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I don't know for absolute certain, but I'm 95% sure you wouldn't recieve OTA since it goes out over the network your phone is connected to.
You can usually snag the update from here, but unfortunately, a lot of people didn't run aLogcat to log the download and get the link. Including myself, though I'm trying now with my second device.
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Another question, does anyone know if this device works on UMTS band I 2100 ( 2100/1900)? I really can't make up my mind because it's not clear on T mobile website. It says UMTS 1700/2100/AWS and this looks like it's referring only to UMTS IV
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Another question, does anyone know if this device works on UMTS band I 2100 ( 2100/1900)? I really can't make up my mind because it's not clear on T mobile website. It says UMTS 1700/2100/AWS and this looks like it's referring only to UMTS IV
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The phone is compatible with almost every gsm band the specs are:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA/HSUPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
In the US most carriers are using GSM 850/1900 and 3G 1700/2100 you will only get OTA from T-mobile in the US if you are using their cellphone service or you can hope and wait for the update to show up here on XDA in the forum.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
In Israel where I am, and England, France and Germany etc. the bands are
2G 900/1800 and 3G 2100
so you should have no problem using 3G or even 3g+ "4G" on this phone if your cell provider offers it. But it may require an advanced sim card or signing up for a special data service.
Dont get confused by the various terms (UMTS EDGE HSPA etc.) a phone that is guad-gsm and tri-3G will run the data services just fine but T-mobile will tell you we dont guarantee the data capabilities outside of our network... because they dont want lawsuits
mo976 said:
The phone is compatible with almost every gsm band the specs are:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA/HSUPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
In the US most carriers are using GSM 850/1900 and 3G 1700/2100 you will only get OTA from T-mobile in the US if you are using their cellphone service or you can hope and wait for the update to show up here on XDA in the forum.
In Israel where I am, and England, France and Germany etc. the bands are
2G 900/1800 and 3G 2100
so you should have no problem using 3G or even 3g+ "4G" on this phone if your cell provider offers it. But it may require an advanced sim card or signing up for a special data service.
Dont get confused by the various terms (UMTS EDGE HSPA etc.) a phone that is guad-gsm and tri-3G will run the data services just fine but T-mobile will tell you we dont guarantee the data capabilities outside of our network... because they dont want lawsuits
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Actually I am a telecom engineer so I know about the terms. You didn't get my question about the bands. Look here for example support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24233.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=FeatureSummary
The listed Bands: 1 (2100) and 4 (AWS 1700/2100)
and that clearly shows that G2 supports 2 UMTS bands , 1 and 4
1 is 2100 paired with 1900 ( EU)
4 that is used by T mobile in the US.
So I am confused because on this page mytouch.t-mobile.com/mytouch-4g-features#/specs-and-manualsthey listed the bands like this
Bands 1700/2100/AWS that's why it's not clear for me if MT4G supports UMTS I or not.
This is the official reply from HTC when asked:
Dear ....,
I understand that you would like to know if your T-mobile Mytouch 4G device can use the 2100 MHZ band over in Europe for 3G. I do apologize your device is not compatible with the 2100 MHZ back over in Europe for 3G service. I do apologize for all the inconvenience that this may cause you.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number .....
Sincerely,
Victor
HTC
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raeef said:
Actually I am a telecom engineer so I know about the terms. You didn't get my question about the bands. Look here for example support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24233.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=FeatureSummary
The listed Bands: 1 (2100) and 4 (AWS 1700/2100)
and that clearly shows that G2 supports 2 UMTS bands , 1 and 4
1 is 2100 paired with 1900 ( EU)
4 that is used by T mobile in the US.
So I am confused because on this page mytouch.t-mobile.com/mytouch-4g-features#/specs-and-manualsthey listed the bands like this
Bands 1700/2100/AWS that's why it's not clear for me if MT4G supports UMTS I or not.
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AWS is the data delivery method used only by Tmo in the US. So the 4G service may not work outside the US but according to the phone specs it states that it supports UMTS and GPRS/EDGE so it should support 3G UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and gprs/edge for 2G everywhere. Ill test my HD (from England) when I get to new york in a day or so and see if I can get proper 3G speeds.
Todays smartphones are designed to be used worldwide with full service as much as possible.
AWS is just another name of UMTS band IV. This is the only UMTS band the MT4G supports, so you'll be able to use it for 3G on carriers that use this band. You can see the list of bands and operators that use them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
In short, outside of the US, Canada, and Chile you're out of luck for 3G. You'd be able to use 2G fine though.
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AWS is just another name of UMTS band IV. This is the only UMTS band the MT4G supports, so you'll be able to use it for 3G on carriers that use this band. You can see the list of bands and operators that use them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
In short, outside of the US, Canada, and Chile you're out of luck for 3G. You'd be able to use 2G fine though.
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This is really confusing, look at this page http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24243.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=FeatureSummary
mo976 said:
AWS is the data delivery method used only by Tmo in the US. So the 4G service may not work outside the US but according to the phone specs it states that it supports UMTS and GPRS/EDGE so it should support 3G UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and gprs/edge for 2G everywhere. Ill test my HD (from England) when I get to new york in a day or so and see if I can get proper 3G speeds.
Todays smartphones are designed to be used worldwide with full service as much as possible.
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Frequency bands differ for different technologies on the same phone. For example there are 2 versions of Nexus one one for ATT and one for T mobile although they work on GSM level because the support both GSM bands on T mobile and ATT but not the UMTS bands on both networks. UMTS and GSM frequencies are not necessarily the same for each network and most probably they won't be the same. In my country we licensed 3G services ( UMTS) on 2100 band or UMTS 1 . GSM on 900 and 1800 only.
Can someone provide me with the FCC id from the back of the phone ?
I tired to search for it on the web but I don't think what I found was the correct one.
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I went to T-mobile store today, the guy was helpful and he printed out the official full technical specifications for the device that he pulled out and here what I got:
3G/UMTS Bands
Band I / UMTS2100 Yes
Band II / 1900 No
Band IV 1700/2100/AWS Yes
Band V/850 No
Band VII/ 900 No
The page was titled " Enablers" and listed specs for GSM and UMTS bands with their features. So I think this ends it for me, it does support both bands I and IV.
mo976 said:
AWS is the data delivery method used only by Tmo in the US. So the 4G service may not work outside the US but according to the phone specs it states that it supports UMTS and GPRS/EDGE so it should support 3G UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and gprs/edge for 2G everywhere. Ill test my HD (from England) when I get to new york in a day or so and see if I can get proper 3G speeds.
Todays smartphones are designed to be used worldwide with full service as much as possible.
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Did it work with you in 3G speed in England ?
Good luck but I've taken my nexus one all over the planet... you'll get 3g in the countries listed above plus Japan (softbank only) but I haven't gotten 3g anywhere else....
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raeef said:
I am planning to buy MT4G, unlock it and use it on another carrier with compatible frequencies of course. Will I be still able to get updates using for example a wifi connection? or should I download updates manually? Is there something that I will lose when I use the phone on another carrier ?
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@OP: have you gotten the MT4G to work with UMTS Band I frequencies?
I got the update by only using my friend's t-mobile sim card, I think I got it via wifi since he doesn't have data plan.
unremarked said:
I don't know if you mean overseas or in any place other than the U.S. but the only "compatible" carrier for this phone besides T-Mobile is AT&T. The reason why compatible is in quotes is because yes the phone would function and make calls on that network, but you will lose 3G and HSPA+ service as AT&T's equivalents operate on a different and incompatible spectrum.
I would also assume that you would not receive OTA updates either.
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I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
Yes I will also like to know as well. Because I would to get this vein so I don't have to stock with a contact.
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Warrimonk said:
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
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Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
Billy Madison said:
Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
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Thanks, this is helpful.
However I am torn between which band would be more useful to me, 850 or 1900 (I live in a rural area). I can live with 3G but not 2G,
UPDATE: A G2 with model number F320S was listed on eBay saying it supports HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100 in the description. I messaged the seller to make sure it was not a mistake, and he assured me that the device does support these 3G frequencies and that it would get 3G signal on carriers Canada.
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
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tpcastelli said:
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
Thanks
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What carrier are you with? You should only get 3G, since none of the LTE variants that work in the US are released yet.
Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
tpcastelli said:
Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
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MoreLocale 2 in the app store seems to do the trick but I don't have an lg g2 to test it. I guess you need to root it first and grant superuser permissions because of the way jellybean handles it.I came up with this thru a couple Google searches so its untested.
I'm tempted. I'm on straight talk in the USA. If it worked, tell me as a thanks cause I kinda want to get it. I wonder if it supports tmobiles hspa+42 network. I use a T-Mobile straight talk sim card...., it runs off of T-Mobile's network but I pay straight talk but no LTE.
I will give it a try. First I need root, do you know where I can get root for the LG G2?
Warrimonk said:
I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
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Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
No info on the 320L
Thanks. That clears a lot up. It is good to see 2 models with a large range of bands.
It really is amazing how many websites had bad info.
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Along the same lines, does anyone know what the model number is of the G2 that works on Verizon bands?
racca said:
Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
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I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
Billy Madison said:
I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
krmdb said:
I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
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I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
Sam2hk said:
I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
Sam2hk said:
Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
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Yes
Billy Madison said:
I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I'm using the F320K and here is the bands i have.
I've spent hours searching google trying to find the answer to this, and I'm pretty sure I'm right but I want to confirm
The SM-G900M is listed as Vodafone's varient. I saw it on sale at net10's site for cheaper then buying it from T-Mobile itself.
It looks like it supports T-Mobile LTE bands (1700 and 2100) but I know aws is 1700/2100 and I'm not sure if it supports the band 4 or if it only supports 1700 and 2100 as separate bands?
Also, does anyone know if the g900m is Sim locked? Being that its being sold for the US by an mvno that uses multiple networks I wouldn't think so...
If it is locked are there certain unlock sites reccomended that can provide an unlock code?
My last questions are is the 900m boot loader locked? And does the 900m come in electric blue?
Nitefire77 said:
It looks like it supports T-Mobile LTE bands (1700 and 2100) but I know aws is 1700/2100 and I'm not sure if it supports the band 4 or if it only supports 1700 and 2100 as separate bands?
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Please refer to this thread for the solution.
Also, does anyone know if the g900m is Sim locked? Being that its being sold for the US by an mvno that uses multiple networks I wouldn't think so...
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Install Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app or Shortcut Master app > open Menu > 'Secret Codes' > scroll down to the 7465625 code (that mean *#SIMLOCK#) and launch it to check for the SIM Lock.
(note: root is required to launch the secret codes)
I am planning to get Galaxy S8 US Unlocked from Samsung's website, but wanted to check first if it will support T-Mobile's features such as: WiFi Calling, VoLTE and Band 12. I can of course get T-Mobile variant, but unlocked one is at least $100 cheaper.
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I am planning to get Galaxy S8 US Unlocked from Samsung's website, but wanted to check first if it will support T-Mobile's features such as: WiFi Calling, VoLTE and Band 12. I can of course get T-Mobile variant, but unlocked one is at least $100 cheaper.
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Yes, I have this model and all these features are working.
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I am on t-mobile and everything works perfectly
*#2263#* shows all bands - just uncheck all LTE bands, and the just check the four that T-mobile LTE uses: 2,4,12 & 66
clubtech said:
Yes, I have this model and all these features are working.
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So there is no point in buying T-Mobile variant over the US unlocked model?
vpad10_hacker said:
*#2263#* shows all bands - just uncheck all LTE bands, and the just check the four that T-mobile LTE uses: 2,4,12 & 66
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Good to know! Will do once I get the device.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I have the exynos version unlocked, rooted, running rennovate ice 2.0 and I can't connect to band 12. I know it's in my area and I believe the tower is using it for carrier aggregation but my phone shows: "CA:NONE, SC_NUM:0" when hitting *#0011# in the dialer. Additionally, I can put my sim into an external hotspot router and get carrier aggregation no problem using band 2+12. Wifi calling and volte are showing to be active. I have the T-mobile CSC flashed as well using the CSC 1.0 utility.
When doing *#2263#, what should be selected under "band selection"? Mine is set to automatic.
EDIT - Nevermind, it is working fine. Must have been a temporary network thing yesterday! Band 12 rolling with no issues.
I'm eyeing this phone to replace my well worn S5. Does anyone know for sure if the x727 variant has the UMTS B4 1700/2100Mhz? The listings on the various Chinese sites are hit and miss, that's why I'm looking for first hand info. Based on my research the x720 appears to have 3G band 4, but it is unclear if the x727 does.
Thanks!
x727 is the NA version, which launched alongside the US version of Le Eco's online store. It supports B2/4/12 and VoLTE + WiFi calling on T-Mobile.
I'm planning to use it on Freedom Mobile in Canada on their 3G network (not LTE), that's why AWS band 4 on 3G is a requirement.
Thanks.
paradoxum said:
I'm planning to use it on Freedom Mobile in Canada on their 3G network (not LTE), that's why AWS band 4 on 3G is a requirement.
Thanks.
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T-Mobile US also relies on 1700/2100 AWS B4 for HSPA/UMTS. LTE discovery shows the LTE band, so I'm not sure how to do the same for HSPA.
I found the FCC application for the x727 and the SAR exposure report lists WCDMA band 4 @ 1700Mhz, so I'm good to go. Coincidentally it appears the device has the highest radiation level on that band.
page 4:
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=3160895
The full FCC application can be found here:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...d=tRbB27x6FnmQ5/KxMnrdWw==&fcc_id=2AFWMLEX727
Thanks for you help.