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Android Head Units - how do I tell them apart?

Is there any easy way to tell which android head unit I'm looking at from the listings? I'm considering one for my 2009 Toyota Rav4, but I don't want to end up one with a bad amp, etc. If there is a guide somewhere, I'd appreciate a reference.
Thanks in advance!

You're worried about a mismatch? Usually you can message or email the seller or manufacturer and ask them questions to be sure
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khisanthax said:
You're worried about a mismatch? Usually you can message or email the seller or manufacturer and ask them questions to be sure
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Thanks for your reply.
I've read a bit to know that some units are a bit less well implemented than others. I'm looking at the collection of random brands on Aliexpress that are specific to Toyota Rav4 model years with similar dashboards to mine, but I'm a little worried about things like the CPU (Allwinner versus Rockchip) etc.

Go for a PX5 unit. It will have an octo core A53 CPU by Rockchip. Check with the manufacturer if you can get either an MTC or FYT model (these are the guys that take the rock chip and make a module). Both of those will have custom ROM support.

looxonline said:
Go for a PX5 unit. It will have an octo core A53 CPU by Rockchip. Check with the manufacturer if you can get either an MTC or FYT model (these are the guys that take the rock chip and make a module). Both of those will have custom ROM support.
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Is MTCD ok? Does it mean revision D of the MTC module?
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I just bought a dasaita and it fit the dash 100% and was completely plug and play and I lost nothing on my 2018 highlander. It's a px5 and it works with my reverse cam string wheel controls and all my car functions.. I've got small complaints but for a 10 inch screen it's nice.
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Is MTCD ok? Does it mean revision D of the MTC module?
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MTCD or MTCE. They are both similar. Only differentiated by software on the MCU. FYT is also good and apparently less buggy with bluetooth with some nice custom ROM support on the way.
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khisanthax said:
I just bought a dasaita and it fit the dash 100% and was completely plug and play and I lost nothing on my 2018 highlander. It's a px5 and it works with my reverse cam string wheel controls and all my car functions.. I've got small complaints but for a 10 inch screen it's nice.
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If you play music over bluetooth and try to listen to voice guidance from a nav app does the voice guidance come through?

Yes it does but you also have the option of lowering the music volume when.nav voice goes through and you can set by how much
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looxonline said:
MTCD or MTCE. They are both similar. Only differentiated by software on the MCU. FYT is also good and apparently less buggy with bluetooth with some nice custom ROM support on the way.
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If you play music over bluetooth and try to listen to voice guidance from a nav app does the voice guidance come through?
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Thanks.
Are there any known sellers of FYT units on AliExpress? Being able to use Bluetooth for calls on my phone is fairly important to me.
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tjhayko said:
Thanks.
Are there any known sellers of FYT units on AliExpress? Being able to use Bluetooth for calls on my phone is fairly important to me.
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Heaps of sellers but Joying is probably the best bet if they make a unit for your car. You can ask them directly if it is FYT.

looxonline said:
Heaps of sellers but Joying is probably the best bet if they make a unit for your car. You can ask them directly if it is FYT.
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Unfortunately, Joying only makes a full touch screen unit. I prefer the units with volume and tuning knobs.
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Insane Bluetooth call volume on Chinese headunit

Hey guys, I bought a Chinese headunit and its really good actually im happy with it, however the Bluetooth calls (my phone is connected with Bluetooth to the headunit) is extremely loud even on the lowest volume pretty much ear raping
Some detail on the unit
HMI: XPH_0.10.2018.04.26.16.00
MCU: TS907.180612
MEDIA: TSv1.0.1_180326_1630
CAN: V3.24.011.BYPS
BTV: BT.18.03.12.1601
More than happy to pay for a solution honestly its so bad guys.

Did you check factory settings?
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Did you check factory settings?
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I did, there is bt volume there however it doesn't seem to change a thing maybe a software bug?

What kind of radio did you buy? I am interested in head units but European prices are ridiculous, often 300-500 euro.
I am looking for something cheaper which would be customizable by installing apps from Google Play or mods from XDA. Generally the best if had same possibilities to mod as phone.
I do not care about sound because car is not a philharmonic place to do so, so "normal" quality is good too
Is there something what I want or I have to pay 500 eur because I have too high requirements for Chinese Head Unit?

When you say lowest volume, is it volume of the phone or head unit? Did you try to adjust both? If that doesn't work try reflashing MCU file. Nothing else comes to my mind.
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Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
What kind of radio did you buy? I am interested in head units but European prices are ridiculous, often 300-500 euro.
I am looking for something cheaper which would be customizable by installing apps from Google Play or mods from XDA. Generally the best if had same possibilities to mod as phone.
I do not care about sound because car is not a philharmonic place to do so, so "normal" quality is good too
Is there something what I want or I have to pay 500 eur because I have too high requirements for Chinese Head Unit?
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Check AliExpress. Just remember, you get what you pay for.
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Bo03 said:
When you say lowest volume, is it volume of the phone or head unit? Did you try to adjust both? If that doesn't work try reflashing MCU file. Nothing else comes to my mind.
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Check AliExpress. Just remember, you get what you pay for.
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Bought it from a local dealer, I lowered the volume for both, how do I reflash mcu? Can I update it?

Crapy said:
Bought it from a local dealer, I lowered the volume for both, how do I reflash mcu? Can I update it?
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I'm sure you can but I would advise you talk to your local dealer first.
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Bo03 said:
I'm sure you can but I would advise you talk to your local dealer first.
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Sadly ive been scammed bought it for twice its price, from a guy who knows 0 thing about Electronics except how to connect it.

Can you post the screenshot of your head unit info?
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Can you post the screenshot of your head unit info?
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https://imgur.com/a/HBzJWTF
And yes I tried changing all the volume stuff down it didnt help

Crapy said:
https://imgur.com/a/HBzJWTF
And yes I tried changing all the volume stuff down it didnt help
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All the references to Chinese HUs crack me up. Where do ya'll think the factory units are manufactured, Des Moines?

sonicsleuth said:
All the references to Chinese HUs crack me up. Where do ya'll think the factory units are manufactured, Des Moines?
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I think when people say that they mean it was designed in China as well

ford focus tesla style radio help

I bought a Tesla style radio supposedly 6.0. setup was great easy everything went smooth until I started to mess with the radio. Problems I am facing are as follows
1. Google play store is not certified
2. I cannot download any apps say it's incompatible with my device
3 there is no defualt nav app
4 I cannot change weather
5 alot of canbus features do not work rpms and milage also cannot change km to mph.
6 trying to side load give parsing error.
7 almost all apps I try to side load give error
I have treid to enter can setting but not sure what I'm really looking for there are no developers option s I'm stumped tried to reach out to seller on eBay still waiting on a reply any info would help and yes I do look around a bit for answers it would be appreciated if you could point me in right direction

I have the same problem with the new firmware... I can't install much apps
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Yeah if I continue to have this problem the next 3 days I'm going to return it back to the reseller and buy one from Phoenix radio directly

jaycyn91 said:
Yeah if I continue to have this problem the next 3 days I'm going to return it back to the reseller and buy one from Phoenix radio directly
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Did you buy it at PhoenixAndroidRadios as me.. For a focus 2015 as me?
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No I bought it from eBay from a reseller it's unbranded from what I can tell honestly is lt would be a perfect unit but I can't download gps apps no videos play. Can't update using forum update files I'm pretty stuck. For almost 500 dollars it ain't worth it as I got an 8.0 px5 unit in my other car which had no limitations.

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No I bought it from eBay from a reseller it's unbranded from what I can tell honestly is lt would be a perfect unit but I can't download gps apps no videos play. Can't update using forum update files I'm pretty stuck. For almost 500 dollars it ain't worth it as I got an 8.0 px5 unit in my other car which had no limitations.
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So strange all these limitations!
Swc are working?
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Yes swc are working except voice botton. Doors open closed working but almost not noticable. Rpm and speed doesn't work the way that it should. I didn't get any type of documents with unit. Really my main issue with unit is not being able to download any apps or sideload them no video apps(YouTube) music apps (spotify Pandora)will download . I cant even customise theme. Still waiting on seller but it seems I may be sending it back and ordering from somewhere else.... I ordered this but I received a different unit with different ui. https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-4-quot-...s-2012-2015-/113226073839?txnId=1918465378001
but I got this see photo. Only thing that matching from advertising is the screen size it don't even have the extra menu bottons.

Which focus do you have?
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Aftermarket Android Head Unit Canbus Decoder

Hello all,
I drive a 2016 Hyundai i20 which comes with a basic radio and music player. I am looking to upgrade to an aftermarket Android Head Unit, one of the many from Aliexpress (specific model not decided yet)
As per spec sheet, almost all of them support steering mounted controls.
So here are my doubts
1. I am assuming the steering mounted controls will be through Canbus. For this to work, do I need a canbus decoder?
2. If i get a canbus decoder, will I be able to get more information on the HU which was not previously available in my car (e.g the car shows a door ajar warning if any of the doors are open. Its generic and does not specify which door is open. With the canbus decoder, will I get to know which specific door is open in the HU?)
Regards

Canbus decoder yes or no. It depends, does it come originally equipped if so the just a decoder.
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buckholt said:
Canbus decoder yes or no. It depends, does it come originally equipped if so the just a decoder.
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How can i find if out? The specsheet does not mention anything about it?
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https://www.googleadservices.com/pa...vyMNYg93uaokk3NmXtYnmO80ZpJ_t-yhoCokoQAvD_BwE
https://m.dhgate.com/product/hd-tou...-320467455794|112003006|US|kauhdc|m|2|#pd-112
It looks as tho the radio is plug and play. Not sure if it does everything else you want but it does do swc.
https://www.ebay.com/p/Ctshy016-2-S...AvjOm6CiuQEGV4jQorGFuvvF-o7JD8mBoC4cgQAvD_BwE
May not need this tho.
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From what I can see I don't think there is a HU with CANbus decoder for that car. Most cars use analog switches for the SWC and don't require a CANbus decoder. Here's 2 known sellers that actually show you what's in the box, Shenzen Burgeon and Seicane.
The last one even shows you the car side pinout and there's no connection for CANbus. The Key1 pin is for the SWC.

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It looks as tho the radio is plug and play. Not sure if it does everything else you want but it does do swc.
https://www.ebay.com/p/Ctshy016-2-S...AvjOm6CiuQEGV4jQorGFuvvF-o7JD8mBoC4cgQAvD_BwE
May not need this tho.
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From what I can see I don't think there is a HU with CANbus decoder for that car. Most cars use analog switches for the SWC and don't require a CANbus decoder. Here's 2 known sellers that actually show you what's in the box, Shenzen Burgeon and Seicane.
The last one even shows you the car side pinout and there's no connection for CANbus. The Key1 pin is for the SWC.
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I found some models in Aliexpress. All say Canbus is supported. I am thoroughly confused

Buy the dang radio you like and plug it in. If controls dont work after you program then order the canbus decoder. The 2 radios i saw are plug and play.
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nomad47 said:
I found some models in Aliexpress. All say Canbus is supported. I am thoroughly confused
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There's a small number of manufacturer and many more resellers on Aliexpress meaning that they sell the same thing. Check the listings for a picture or a description of what's in the box if there's a CANbus decoder you will see it. Units with decoder usually cost $50 more so if you see the same HU from different sellers keep that in mind.
Before you buy anything start a chat with the seller and ask about the CANbus. Be clear and specific about what you want. The face plate looks fairly solid but you might want to ask them to ship the HU no assembled to the face plate. Their packaging is not the best and if something breaks you're going to have to wait longer for a replacement and might have extra costs. You don't want to just buy something try it and send it back either, more time and money.
I checked Eonon and Xtrons too and they don't have anything specific to your car.

nic2k said:
There's a small number of manufacturer and many more resellers on Aliexpress meaning that they sell the same thing. Check the listings for a picture or a description of what's in the box if there's a CANbus decoder you will see it. Units with decoder usually cost $50 more so if you see the same HU from different sellers keep that in mind.
Before you buy anything start a chat with the seller and ask about the CANbus. Be clear and specific about what you want. The face plate looks fairly solid but you might want to ask them to ship the HU no assembled to the face plate. Their packaging is not the best and if something breaks you're going to have to wait longer for a replacement and might have extra costs. You don't want to just buy something try it and send it back either, more time and money.
I checked Eonon and Xtrons too and they don't have anything specific to your car.
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I have had an extensive chat with a supplier, and am getting a decent HU (4GB RAM, Android Pie) with built in DSP. He has said that steering control will work without Canbus and therefore is not needed. They sell the Canbus separately.
I was just wondering, even if the Canbus Decoder is not required for steering control, will it be beneficial to install it to get some more features on the HU (I am not even sure if it's possible), like the door ajar thing i mentioned in my first post.
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From the radios i saw you do not need the decoder and no the decoder wont give anything else. At least the one I've used.
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buckholt said:
From the radios i saw you do not need the decoder and no the decoder wont give anything else. At least the one I've used.
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Sigh!! I was really hoping to have some more informatics on the HU. Well, it seems I will have to be content with android and navigation only
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You can get a obd reader. Not sure what all it can do for your car but it does give info about codes and other stuff like speed and other crap. Just enjoy the tunes and watching whatever video you like. You should be focused on the road anyways
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buckholt said:
You can get a obd reader. Not sure what all it can do for your car but it does give info about codes and other stuff like speed and other crap. Just enjoy the tunes and watching whatever video you like. You should be focused on the road anyways
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Strictly no video for me. As you rightly said, focus should be in the road. Only tunes and navigation
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You should be focused on the road anyways
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:laugh::laugh: I like that
Just for reference, to be able to use a CANbus decoder the HU has to have CAN high and CAN low pins and it also needs software support meaning there's a CANbus menu with an entry for the car make maybe even the model.

nic2k said:
:laugh::laugh: I like that
Just for reference, to be able to use a CANbus decoder the HU has to have CAN high and CAN low pins and it also needs software support meaning there's a CANbus menu with an entry for the car make maybe even the model.
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The HU I have selected has CANbus support. This is the model

One more question guys, can we receive call on phone connected via Bluetooth to an Android HU from the HU itself?
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I can
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PX5 No Sound at all

I purchased a PX5 Rockchip rk3368, 10 inch display, 4gb ram 64 gb rom Octacore Android head unit. I installed it on my 2001 Toyota RAV4. The functionality is great BUT I do not get any sound what so ever! I had a single din Alpine BT aftermarket in before this and that still works perfectly! I've wired the wiring correctly but still no sound. I was wondering if I could root it or re flash the software to see if that's the problem?

Listing px5 rk3368 could apply to many different variants of units featuring rk3368 processors. It's a bit like saying I have a chrome toaster.
What does reseller or installer recommend when contacted for support. Also, list of steps performed to validate install.
Why would software be the problem.

Before you root or flash another rom I would suggest you contact your seller. Also did your vehicle have an OEM amp fitted? If so you may not have the right harness for your vehicle.
But definitely check with your seller.
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I've Tried to contact the seller but no luck.
There's no factory amp in my car though.
I've contacted both crurfield and bestbuy. I even considered trying to bypass the amp if there was one

XXforareason said:
I've Tried to contact the seller but no luck.
There's no factory amp in my car though.
I've contacted both crurfield and bestbuy. I even considered trying to bypass the amp if there was one
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Check the options for canbus on factory settings.
Perhaps your unit is configured to factory amp
Did you double check your wire connections ?
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Update: i messed around with the head unit and discovered that I do get sound. The sound that I am getting is the keytone feedback from clicking the buttons such as home/ volume/ back. But I do not get sound from any of the internal applications.
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XXforareason said:
Update: i messed around with the head unit and discovered that I do get sound. The sound that I am getting is the keytone feedback from clicking the buttons such as home/ volume/ back. But I do not get sound from any of the internal applications.
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@marchnz @ikerg @Tbizzness

Strange one. Have you got a spare speaker knocking about? If you have try and connect headunit speaker wires one at a time to the speaker and see what if any response you get.
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XXforareason said:
Update: i messed around with the head unit and discovered that I do get sound. The sound that I am getting is the keytone feedback from clicking the buttons such as home/ volume/ back. But I do not get sound from any of the internal applications.
@ikerg @Tbizzness @marchnz
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What mcu version do you have?
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@ikerg
I uploaded a picture
@Tbizzness
I've tried to individualpy connect each speaker wire and even ground the ground wire to the harness no change

XXforareason said:
@ikerg
I uploaded a picture
@Tbizzness
I've tried to individualpy connect each speaker wire and even ground the ground wire to the harness no change
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Never seen a setup like that before. Especially the android version. Who was the seller that sold it to you?
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Never seen a setup like that before. Especially the android version. Who was the seller that sold it to you?
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threecar from aliexpress

XXforareason said:
threecar from aliexpress
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I know people do, but I would never buy something like this from that site. I always purchase from a proper sellers website and have proper customer service. Since using android head units I've been using Xtrons as the seller. The only problem I had with them was a unit specifically for my Kia Sportage that was slow as hell. Contacted them and sent it back for a different model replacement. Was all done within 4 days of contacting them. I might be wrong but that android version doesn't ring true to me. Apparently I've seen in the forums some Ali sellers are selling units that somehow have been faked to read android 9 and double memory that what it really has.
Really hope you get it sorted out soon though.
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Yes...your only option is to contact seller for support
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Hola tengo el mismo problema, alguna solución?

I recently had a situation with a Joying head unit doing the same thing. Purchased it used from eBay got it all set up in the house ( with no speakers connected) and installed it in our Toyota. I had no audio but I could hear the beeping sound when pushing buttons or turning the volume knob but no music from any of the sources. I believe the previous owner tried to flash a different MCU firmware which took out the sound in the head unit. I had to open the unit and look for the MCU board to see what the firmware version or model number was. In my case there was a round sticker that said TD6735d. So I did a Google search for that MCU found the original MCU firmware flashed it and I had sound restored. I hope this helps.