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So you will have all had the phone for a month or so now .
Still waiting here for the UK release ,but is it worth waiting for ,love the design of it
What's all your views on it .
my choices are
Wait for essential in the UK
Pixel 2 XL
HTC U11 + if it comes es to the UK
LG V30
I've grown to love this phone. Out of the phones you mention, the only one I would consider would be the P2XL. However, since Essential is starting to release source files, I'll be perfectly happy to stick with the PH-1 if we start seeing some development.
If I had the choice now, I'd probably go for the Pixel 2 XL. Having owned the PH-1 for a month now, I realize that it is still pretty much unfinished product. The hardware is no doubt, beautiful but the software still feels incomplete. Although Essential has sent out a few updates and the software had improved markedly, it is still not up to par with other phones in the market (e.g. phone lags when scrolling, it freezes every now and then and the camera software is still not that great).
Although we haven't seen how the Pixel 2 XL really works, I'd assume it's in better shape than the Essential software. In short, I'd ask whether you'd want to be a beta tester for Essential or go with a more established player like Google. In my case, I am getting the Pixel 2 XL and will sell the PH-1 (or may keep it as a backup) when it arrives.
I was waiting for the Pixel 2, not XL (850+ dlls for me is too much), but then the full desing leaked and the Pixel 2 ended up horrible. For me it was 650 + taxes for the pixel 2, with 64 gb and outdated design. On the other hand Essential is 700 for 128gb an much better looking, also I had the oportunity to saw one at a local best buy and it was amazing on the hand, great build quality.
If you have no problem with spending 850+ dlls for a phone and you really need the fastest Android updates then go for the Pixel XL 2, but I think the essential is at a reallly good point right know and it looks like things are going to be better
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So you will have all had the phone for a month or so now .
Still waiting here for the UK release ,but is it worth waiting for ,love the design of it
What's all your views on it .
my choices are
Wait for essential in the UK
Pixel 2 XL
HTC U11 + if it comes es to the UK
LG V30
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I currently own both the HTC U11 and Essential with the pixel 2 XL on order, so if you are familiar with the U11, i can give you a fairly good idea of what you'l be getting with the essential. Between the two I have, they are very different and you get different value for your money. With the essential you get 128GB, great build and materials. I love the look and design. The edge to edge display is really something you have to see in person to appreciate. Having had the s8+, the Essentials bezel less design is better in my opinion. Battery size is ok at 3040mAh. It's also getting update pretty frequently so there's hope all bugs will be ironed out soon. So far nothing I can't live with.
I think you can get the U11 for $550 and $650 for the 64gb and 128GB respectively. I'm guessing the U11+ will be similar to the U11 in terms of specs, but with hopefully a larger, less bezel. So with the U11 as reference you get a more traditional, possibly outdated design. You either love it or hate it for it's "classic" look. Aside from that you get a solidly built phone as well. It feels good in the hand, it runs great with probably one of the only android skins I actually like. It has a really good camera, once having had the highest DxO score for a bit until it was overtaken by the iphone and now pixels. Still a great camera none the less, miles ahead better than the essential, so I expect the U11+ to have the same if not slightly better. Still nothing wrong if it's the same camera in my opinion. The U11 has a 3000mAh battery, so I expect the U11+ to have at least that much, hopefully more. The edge sense is actually pretty cool and useful too once you setup custom actions per app.
Then's there' s cost. The essential is $700 US dollars for 128GB. If the U11 is $750 normally for 128GB, I can only assume the U11+ will be more if a 128 option exists. The U11+ will most likely have sd card support. That's still cheaper than the pixel 2xl that starts at $850 for 64gb and $950 for 128gb with the exact same internals, with a much better camera. but pixel does have bigger screen but s8 like bezels on top and bottom. At least there's speakers there but if you want edge to edge, the essential is a nicer looking option.
I actually prefer the Essential over my U11. The camera isn't that important to me on a smart phone. It works, takes decent pictures if needed. I'm no professional and I don't pretend to be. But the look, feels and size is what makes the essential my daily driver now. I am totally happy with my essential, and I'll be critical with the pixel 2 given all the good the essential has. I don't regret my purchase and even got one for the wife
Personally I love the essential phone. My favorite this is the size of the phone. It's pretty much identical to size of the Galaxy S5 and it's all screen. As far as software, I don't really have any issues at all anymore, the occasional things creeps up from time to time. Every phone has those random little on offs. There isn't a software on Earth that hasn't frozen hasn't lagged hasn't bugged out at one time or another. Essential has done a really great job of keeping consistent updates coming. Through both the monthly security updates and via essential services and resources app on the play store.
I could honestly careless about the camera, it has never been a selling point for me on a phone ever. That being said, I don't have any issues taking pictures and they turn just fine for me. If you want to shoot a movie on your phone(like all the reviewers expect a phone camera to clearly do) maybe look towards the pixel. I have no interest in pixel xl 2 because it's to dam big for my hands and those size phones are hard for me to use. After using this phone, I have no interest in using a phone that has bezels as big as the regular pixel 2.
You can't go wrong with either phone, and unless you pre-order the pixel 2 xl it's going to be a wait for that device as well.
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Personally I love the essential phone. My favorite this is the size of the phone. It's pretty much identical to size of the Galaxy S5 and it's all screen. As far as software, I don't really have any issues at all anymore, the occasional things creeps up from time to time. Every phone has those random little on offs. There isn't a software on Earth that hasn't frozen hasn't lagged hasn't bugged out at one time or another. Essential has done a really great job of keeping consistent updates coming. Through both the monthly security updates and via essential services and resources app on the play store.
I could honestly careless about the camera, it has never been a selling point for me on a phone ever. That being said, I don't have any issues taking pictures and they turn just fine for me. If you want to shoot a movie on your phone(like all the reviewers expect a phone camera to clearly do) maybe look towards the pixel. I have no interest in pixel xl 2 because it's to dam big for my hands and those size phones are hard for me to use. After using this phone, I have no interest in using a phone that has bezels as big as the regular pixel 2.
You can't go wrong with either phone, and unless you pre-order the pixel 2 xl it's going to be a wait for that device as well.
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Now that I have used for a while, the reviews were really hard. Saying that this phone is bad and telling people not to buy it only because the camare is not good makes me wonder what kind of "reviews" and "tech journalism" we have today
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Now that I have used for a while, the reviews were really hard. Saying that this phone is bad and telling people not to buy it only because the camare is not good makes me wonder what kind of "reviews" and "tech journalism" we have today
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Exactly, I have been waging a war on Android central recently and their over bias bull**** reviews. Sites like those only care about flagship devices, infact the only phones they don't say bad things about are Samsung. That same attitude has rolled over to the forums, just a bunch of people who have never even seen one in person saying it's a horrible device. Yet I come to the good ol' XDA it's full of people actually trying to help other users.
That's why I don't buy phones based on reviews, if I listened to Android central, I would have never owned the HTC 10, the Honor 8 or the axon 7. All of which are fantastic devices, but because they don't do things like Samsung they all got ****ty reviews and recommendations.
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I currently own both the HTC U11 and Essential with the pixel 2 XL on order, so if you are familiar with the U11, i can give you a fairly good idea of what you'l be getting with the essential. Between the two I have, they are very different and you get different value for your money. With the essential you get 128GB, great build and materials. I love the look and design. The edge to edge display is really something you have to see in person to appreciate. Having had the s8+, the Essentials bezel less design is better in my opinion. Battery size is ok at 3040mAh. It's also getting update pretty frequently so there's hope all bugs will be ironed out soon. So far nothing I can't live with.
I think you can get the U11 for $550 and $650 for the 64gb and 128GB respectively. I'm guessing the U11+ will be similar to the U11 in terms of specs, but with hopefully a larger, less bezel. So with the U11 as reference you get a more traditional, possibly outdated design. You either love it or hate it for it's "classic" look. Aside from that you get a solidly built phone as well. It feels good in the hand, it runs great with probably one of the only android skins I actually like. It has a really good camera, once having had the highest DxO score for a bit until it was overtaken by the iphone and now pixels. Still a great camera none the less, miles ahead better than the essential, so I expect the U11+ to have the same if not slightly better. Still nothing wrong if it's the same camera in my opinion. The U11 has a 3000mAh battery, so I expect the U11+ to have at least that much, hopefully more. The edge sense is actually pretty cool and useful too once you setup custom actions per app.
Then's there' s cost. The essential is $700 US dollars for 128GB. If the U11 is $750 normally for 128GB, I can only assume the U11+ will be more if a 128 option exists. The U11+ will most likely have sd card support. That's still cheaper than the pixel 2xl that starts at $850 for 64gb and $950 for 128gb with the exact same internals, with a much better camera. but pixel does have bigger screen but s8 like bezels on top and bottom. At least there's speakers there but if you want edge to edge, the essential is a nicer looking option.
I actually prefer the Essential over my U11. The camera isn't that important to me on a smart phone. It works, takes decent pictures if needed. I'm no professional and I don't pretend to be. But the look, feels and size is what makes the essential my daily driver now. I am totally happy with my essential, and I'll be critical with the pixel 2 given all the good the essential has. I don't regret my purchase and even got one for the wife
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Don't go saying better camera just yet. The HTC U11 and the first pixel are tied at a dxo mark of 90. While google unofficially claims a score of 98 for the new pixels we will see. I am sure HTC has plans to continue it's stellar camera software.
UK owner
I bought mine from a seller in the US as I was willing to take a chance that the early reviews were off the mark.
I've had the phone for almost 4 weeks now, and it's a great phone as far as I'm concerned.
Battery life is excellent, I get a minimum of 5 hours + SOT regularly for my usage, which I have never managed with previous phones., Even managed almost 7 hours a couple of times with lighter usage.
Latest updates from Essential have made real progress in stability.
Yes, the camera is average, but not as bad as many have said.
It takes decent photographs as far as I'm concerned, and I use it occasionally for work purposes with no problems in quality.
It does feel very nice in the hand, and the screen coverage looks great.
Hope this helps.
Something I need to mention that I initially forgot. The screen brightness when outside in sunlight. I think some of the early reviews said it was little under lit, but I think they may have adaptive brightness on, because I've used it often when out and about. I've noticed if you toggle off adaptive and adjust it manually if it's sunny, it's fine.
I would pick the PH-1 over any of those devices, the design is different in a good way, the lack of accessories (cases mainly) makes it more like a acquired taste. hey all use the same Qualcomm MSM8998 Snapdragon 835 and 4GB of RAM so it's based on your style. The Essential has been great to me and it turns heads. If you decide on the others - I would say Pixel 2 XL so you are ensured support
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Exactly, I have been waging a war on Android central recently and their over bias bull**** reviews. Sites like those only care about flagship devices, infact the only phones they don't say bad things about are Samsung. That same attitude has rolled over to the forums, just a bunch of people who have never even seen one in person saying it's a horrible device. Yet I come to the good ol' XDA it's full of people actually trying to help other users.
That's why I don't buy phones based on reviews, if I listened to Android central, I would have never owned the HTC 10, the Honor 8 or the axon 7. All of which are fantastic devices, but because they don't do things like Samsung they all got ****ty reviews and recommendations.
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Don't go saying better camera just yet. The HTC U11 and the first pixel are tied at a dxo mark of 90. While google unofficially claims a score of 98 for the new pixels we will see. I am sure HTC has plans to continue it's stellar camera software.
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Well yes and no. The score is official. But what that number equates to in real world performance is relative. To say the u11 isn't "as good" as the pixel 2 does not mean the u11 camera isn't great, although the phrase does imply that. I think a score in the 90s will result in excellent camera performance to some degree. I have no reason to believe HTC won't improve on what they've built so far. Regardless as an android user we have some quality and exciting phones to choose from.
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Well yes and no. The score is official. But what that number equates to in real world performance is relative. To say the u11 isn't "as good" as the pixel 2 does not mean the u11 camera isn't great, although the phrase does imply that. I think a score in the 90s will result in excellent camera performance to some degree. I have no reason to believe HTC won't improve on what they've built so far. Regardless as an android user we have some quality and exciting phones to choose from.
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I did not know they made it official, well in that case. Let's see what HTC brings with the U11+. I have always loved HTC and their simple user interface. If the rumors are correct it will be a thin bezel design as well, which makes me excited. I honestly wouldn't have given the U11 back had it had a higher screen to body ratio. It was a little too big for my liking.
I loved the look and feel of the phone, substantial in the hand, good button feel and I liked where the buttons were.
NIce looking screen too.
Software and camera were OK,
I *hatehatehate* stock android ! First thing I have always done is root and Rom .
I returned it, very late actually like just last week as I was holding out hope of kernel and Factory image release but not soon enough. I resurrected my 6P and am still using that because I **really* love the 6P.
I would absolutely buy the PH-1 again when my 6P dies and Essential gets some ROMs.
The PH-1 is a fabulous device. Now that Xposed is live for Nougat, using Xposed on the PH-1 would greatly enhance the experience, for me. Where else are you going to get that kind of hardware and 128GB storage for under 700? I did keep the camera JIC lol
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swagglepuff said:
I did not know they made it official, well in that case. Let's see what HTC brings with the U11+. I have always loved HTC and their simple user interface. If the rumors are correct it will be a thin bezel design as well, which makes me excited. I honestly wouldn't have given the U11 back had it had a higher screen to body ratio. It was a little too big for my liking.
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I know how you feel. Been an HTC fan since the windows mobile days and loved HTC manilla/rosie/sense and whatever else it was called in between lol. I miss developing for the those older phones. Sense is the only android skin I truly love. Hopefully I'll be apart of the user trials for the u11+ as well. But the essential will be a hard phone to beat design wise.
Still like my PH1. Not sure I want the Pixel 2 xl. I've got a 6p to trade on it also but it's not really a great looking device in my opinion. Haven't ruled it out though as a backup device. Honestly I really want to see if I can get the Xperia XZ1 to run on Verizon as it has all the lte bands. Plus it's got aptx for my home Bluetooth setup. Sony hates the US so it's been an impossible task so far.
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Thanks guys ,some great responses and information,still using my trusty N6P ,if I could gather a UK release date on the PH-1 it would help ,but essential seem reluctant to commit to one so far .Had the early shut down issues in the N6P ,but I changed the battery for lots more life in it just yet .
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Thanks guys ,some great responses and information,still using my trusty N6P ,if I could gather a UK release date on the PH-1 it would help ,but essential seem reluctant to commit to one so far .Had the early shut down issues in the N6P ,but I changed the battery for lots more life in it just yet .
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Not sure if www.swappa.com is an option for you but they have some on sale, from used to mint. I buy and sell and on there all the time. Extremely reliable, PayPal verified and secure. One in mint condition at $620 isn't bad.
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
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I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
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Your not crazy.
Honestly, the camera just stinks. Its gonna take Essential to really work on firmware and software to solve it. Yes, you can use the Google Camera Mod/Port, but that comes with its own set of headaches and it not perfect.
I would like Oreo and them to really show us they can take the LG G6 camera hardware and make them work like the LG G6 cameras.
If they can do that, I think it will show the industry that they mean business. If they just let it slide till Essential Phone 2, and don't show that they can deliver software and firmware, it will really show just how shallow and normal their company really is. Meaning, oh well... let them just buy our new one because its better for our bottom line.
I am REALLY in hopes that they want to prove and show that they are above the other trolling companies that just shovel out new devices. That would set them apart from the pack of the massive flood of phones by a sea of Android OEM's.
Show us your better than the norm Essential.
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I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
LordLugard said:
This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
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The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
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The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
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Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
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Well, true those bezels kinda suck. The 2 XL just had screen quality issues. I returned mine.
Ok cool I'm glad I'm not the only who made the switch
I hardly ever take pictures, so the pixel 2 has nothing I want.
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Its not easy to justify the price of the pixel but you do get a few things the essential phone doesnt have: IP67, stereo speakers, much faster updates, and an incredible camera. Is it worth it? Idk
I have my ph-1 coming today. I'm rocking a pixel 2 XL 128. I wouldn't even consider the smaller pixel for the dinky screen so I think the bigger pixel is more comparable. These 2 phones, both at 128gb are $529 difference out the door. Camera , waterproofing and speakers are advantages over the ph-1. I just don't think it's worth over five hundred bucks. Plus the screen is not the highest quality and I haven't heard anyone say this but the pixel fingerprint sensor is not the best. If you have the slightest moisture on your finger ,even sweat, it won't register. I just feel like at a grand, a phone better be near perfect. The only deal breaker to me would be if the ph-1 has connectivity issues. I'm also really into a smoother software experience which is unmatched by the pixel line it sounds. I DO kind of like the underdog company who seems willing to listen and try to make consistent updates to improve things. I think I'll be content knowing tthat those updates are coming and it gives you hope and something to look forward to... especially Oreo. Looking at that beautiful screen while waiting may very well be worth it!
Handson and unboxing leaked:
https://youtu.be/qnEFPgvFdOE
Pixel 3 xl aka panda final design revealed :
The biggest surprise, however, is the inclusion of bundled earphones. Judging by the video , these are USB-C buds (no, the headphone jack isn’t coming back) that closely resemble Google’s premium wireless*Pixel Buds. Here’s hoping they deliver on audio quality and aren’t just a cheap pair of disposable earphones that get immediately resigned to the bin. Its running android 9.0 pie out of box.
the phone will be powered by an octa-core Qualcomm processor (4 x 1.77GHz and 4 x 2.8GHz), which is almost certainly the*Snapdragon 845 SoC, backed by 4GB of RAM and an Adreno 630 GPU. The display is also listed as having a 1,440 x 2,960 resolution with a 494 ppi rating.
Worst part:
1)comes with ugly notch
2)only gesture control is available no softkey or anything
3)same back with with single camera and fingerprint sensor as previous pixel devices no innovativeness
4)big chin at bottom
5)only 4 gb RAM still in 2018
6)no headphone jack( carry that usb C connector too in pocket)
7)big like panda ?? can't handle
8)costly (but price not revealed)
Ugly notch. Keeping my 2 xl
pankspoo said:
Handson and unboxing leaked:
Pixel 3 xl aka panda final design revealed :
The biggest surprise, however, is the inclusion of bundled earphones. Judging by the video , these are USB-C buds (no, the headphone jack isn’t coming back) that closely resemble Google’s premium wireless*Pixel Buds. Here’s hoping they deliver on audio quality and aren’t just a cheap pair of disposable earphones that get immediately resigned to the bin. Its running android 9.0 pie out of box.
the phone will be powered by an octa-core Qualcomm processor (4 x 1.77GHz and 4 x 2.8GHz), which is almost certainly the*Snapdragon 845 SoC, backed by 4GB of RAM and an Adreno 630 GPU. The display is also listed as having a 1,440 x 2,960 resolution with a 494 ppi rating.
Worst part:
1)comes with ugly notch
2)only gesture control is available no softkey or anything
3)same back with with single camera and fingerprint sensor as previous pixel devices no innovativeness
4)big chin at bottom
5)only 4 gb RAM still in 2018
6)no headphone jack( carry that usb C connector too in pocket)
7)big like panda ?? can't handle
8)costly (but price not revealed)
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Google has been going down hill lately. Only gestures...wtf. Volume buttons linked to media volume only...swipe down twice to get to settings icon... Come on now. P is a huge step back.
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Google has been going down hill lately. Only gestures...wtf. Volume buttons linked to media volume only...swipe down twice to get to settings icon... Come on now. P is a huge step back.
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I can't understand what Google want to do by creating these phones?
NO! No notch!
Helll nooooo!!
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Helll nooooo!!
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This Pixel 2 xl maybe my last Google phone, with the un inspired Pixel 3, I will be waiting for Samsung galaxy s10 as my next replacement phone.
I'm honestly 50/50 in the Pixel 3 XL. I don't really mind the notch, the software is amazing, stock Android. I'm super happy with my 2 XL. However, what puts me off is the 4GB RAM. I believe with the Snapdragon 845, having 4BG RAM won't let it use it's full potential (please correct me if I'm wrong) There's also the fact that 5G is around the corner and with the chip finally made for smartphones to utilize 5G, do I want to Shell out $1k+ right now? I switched to TMobile and I can't utilize their 600Mhz range since the 2XL does not have band 71, which is another thing to consider. I've considered buying a Samsung, but with their bloat infested software and terrible customer service, let alone the slow updates, I don't think I want to. But, I digress. Either way, it's a lot for me to take into consideration. For all I know, I only want it because it's the latest and greatest ?*
This must be a joke.
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Fugly..fugly..fugly! No danka! ???
I was about to say Pixel 3 XL was worth buying if you had a OG Pixel XL or any other non-Google phone. But after reading my own comment, I changed my mind.
Don't get me wrong, I love my P2XL. But I don't think P3XL will be a good value. P3XL specs are marginally better than P2XL. When P3XL is released, P2XL prices will drop. Will P3XL be worth the extra money? Only if you must have the latest and greatest. Otherwise, save some money and get P2XL instead.
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I was about to say Pixel 3 XL was worth buying if you had a OG Pixel XL or any other non-Google phone. But after reading my own comment, I changed my mind.
Don't get me wrong, I love my P2XL. But I don't think P3XL will be a good value. P3XL specs are marginally better than P2XL. When P3XL is released, P2XL prices will drop. Will P3XL be worth the extra money? Only if you must have the latest and greatest. Otherwise, save some money and get P2XL instead.
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Even one plus 6 is far better than this pixel 3 xl
You should add a poll to this post
As for me I just bought my 2 XL (coming from an OG pixel xl) a week ago knowing that the 3XL is just around the corner, but I didn't feel it would be significant upgrade and wouldn't justify the expected ridiculous price Google will be asking for it
I just hope they don't keep a couple of SW features exclusive to the Pixel 3 like they did when they launched the pixel 2 to those poor soles who had the OG Pixel
Won't win any Apple beauty contests, but I'll try it out. Then compare side by side to my 2XL and make a hands on decision to keep or sell....
Fugly! No!
If I'm paying a grand for a phone it better have more than 4gb of RAM
Google does not learn their lesson. Spends over a billion dollars to acquire new engineers for the phone, and none of them can think of the simplest way to do wireless charging without a glass or plastic back. And they don't get a good designer for the phone? C'mon!!!
Anyway, all the reasons you listed are fine with me... but one is what makes me, and many other people, just drop any chances of getting this phone. That is definitely the most stupid decision, which guarantees the worst investment by any company ever! Getting stupid engineers for over a billion dollars that actually don't know CRAP!
- A notch is fine, just not that shape and so deep into the screen. Look at LGQ and OP6. Beautiful notches, if you gotta have a notch. But okay, I can take that.
- It's okay to have a chin... for stereo speakers... but THAT BIG!!!??? Wish it was smaller... but that is still okay with me.
- Why a glass back!?!?!? Just charge the freaking phone through the front screen. I am not using the phone when charging wirelessly anyway. Now pixel will also become a fragile phone Still, I can take that too...
- Soft keys? Stupid engineers or whoever takes care of the software... There's still that pill. WHY???? GET RID OF IT GOOGLE!!! Give me screen space!!! Or let the pill be on top of the content when you touch the screen. What a wast of over one full row! But okay... I can live with it.
- Single camera.... fine with me... as long as it is as good or better than the current pixel 2 camera... and who knows... maybe it will come with optical zoom! (I wish!)
- I actually like the fingerprint spot, would never change it. My phone already does great with the fingerprint and face detection. Kudos for keeping that Google!
- Love the size of the phone. Perfect for my hands. If this is too big for you, you can always have the smaller version.
- Cost... all good phones are expensive... but as long as it is good like the Pixel, I am fine paying for it.
- Now, this is what I cannot accept... I have been a fan of nexus phones, since nexus 5, and have purchased every single phone, every year. Now... 4GB MEMORY!?!? If that does not change when the phone is out, I'm out. I can take all these new **** from google, but 4GB memory? No... I'm going to another brand or OS this time. Maybe OP6 or whatever. That decision is simply stupid.
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Worst part:
1)comes with ugly notch
2)only gesture control is available no softkey or anything
3)same back with with single camera and fingerprint sensor as previous pixel devices no innovativeness
4)big chin at bottom
5)only 4 gb RAM still in 2018
6)no headphone jack( carry that usb C connector too in pocket)
7)big like panda can't handle
8)costly (but price not revealed)
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You should add a poll to this post
As for me I just bought my 2 XL (coming from an OG pixel xl) a week ago knowing that the 3XL is just around the corner, but I didn't feel it would be significant upgrade and wouldn't justify the expected ridiculous price Google will be asking for it
I just hope they don't keep a couple of SW features exclusive to the Pixel 3 like they did when they launched the pixel 2 to those poor soles who had the OG Pixel
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i just wonder will they price this even more than pixel 2 xl.
If they will have a Pink Pixel 3 XL then I am upgrading. Need to get a pink phone for my fiance so we have a matching phone set. Current she has a Sony XA2 in Pink.
During some of the media's "leak" coverage I have seen some so call Pixel 3 XL images with a white and pink two tone.... so hopefully that is the case.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if upgrading worth it. Also my girlfriend wants to buy a pixel and we were waiting on the 3 to see the changes, however for what I've seen I don't think worth the upgrade or buying the pixel 3, pixel 2 still performs perfectly.
My question is, all those feature pixel 3 will have since it's software wise we will have it also in our pixel 2 right ? That smart call, top shot and night mode ?
Also that notch... Ewks...
Anyone have any opinion why I should upgrade to pixel 3 and give this 2xl to my girlfriend or should I just keep it and buy her a pixel 2 instead and keep the money ?
Cheers
I assume the features are all coming to 2/2XL as well. And the notch is a huge deal breaker for me...
I'll skip all notch phones and wait for notch free flagship... maybe in 3 years??? :"P
Depends on disposable income. You got the bucks get the 3. Give your gal the 2 she'll love it.
That's what I'm doing with the Mrs. If you're strapped for cash keep yours and get her a Pixel 2. Can't go wrong either way.
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jerryhou85 said:
I assume the features are all coming to 2/2XL as well. And the notch is a huge deal breaker for me...
I'll skip all notch phones and wait for notch free flagship... maybe in 3 years??? :"P
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Nope.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
read down to this:
Pixel Visual Core Changes
Next, a Product Manager confirmed to us that the Pixel Visual Core has indeed been updated. Until the device’s kernel source code is released, we won’t know exactly what new functions have been added to the HAL. However, we’re told that the Pixel Visual Core is now actually used by the Google Camera app for Google Lens suggestions, HDR+, Top Shot, Motion Auto Focus, and Photobooth. That’s most likely why the older Pixels will get support for Night Sight and Playground but won’t get support for Top Shot, Motion Auto Focus, or Photobooth – they don’t have the newer Pixel Visual Core.
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Nope.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
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Ah... I hate all these manufacturers who release minor features and call it an upgrade...?
Anyone know if the pixel 3 USB port is still incapable of video out?
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No Pixel 3 XL minor spec's for me. Be staying with the Pixel 2 XL which has plenty of updates left in it!
I grabbed the 3. It's essentially a more ergonomic Pixel 2 XL with a better screen, better front camera(s), wireless charging, IP68, better speakers, and another year of support.
OG Pixel to Pixel 2 XL was worth it to me but the Pixel 2 XL to Pixel 3 XL not so much
Staying with 2 XL
I'm really tempted to get the 3XL because it's BOGO at verizion but I'm resisting the temptation . I like the better screen and sound but the 2XL is still a good phone and don't really see a big jump in performance. Plus "some" of the new features will come to the 2XL so I think I'll hold off until next year when it's more of a upgrade.
I'm not buying another pixel if they stick to such a huge notch. "Designed by Google" - yeah, no ****. It'll be exact same phone in terms of looks as I'll hide that notch anyway. So a little better screen, speakers, camera ... Wireless charging I don't use anyway, never use it for deep water diving anyway ... Useless.
devlamania said:
I'm not buying another pixel if they stick to such a huge notch. "Designed by Google" - yeah, no ****. It'll be exact same phone in terms of looks as I'll hide that notch anyway. So a little better screen, speakers, camera ... Wireless charging I don't use anyway, never use it for deep water diving anyway ... Useless.
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Useless to you. It's all subjective. Try out the OnePlus 6T.
I ordered the 3 XL cuz I just at like changing phones every year. But I also have a 2 xl and snapped out of zombie mode and cancelled my order. The 2 camera is still amazing. This phone is fast as hell. I like root even if it's not too needed these days. It just didn't seem like an upgrade worth $1000 for.
Oh yeah....and I HATE gesture navigation.
I don't really see the 'upgrades' with the Pixel 3. All the features announced are pretty much coming the the Pixel 2 and the notch is a real disadvantage, so why bother?
Sticking with my Pixel 2XL for couple of years, still functions flawlessly. Let's see what the Pixel 4 holds...
What "should" have been the Pixel 3xl... will be the Oneplus 6T!
I will not upgrade, I don't see the updates as worth the money. And in general I feel that the pixel phones are overpriced compared to the competition...
I ordered the 3 xl. Since I've been paying more than needed on my payments for my 2 xl, the 3 xl with the stand will be pretty much the same payment. Got it for the better cameras as I use mine a lot, also the wireless charging, and the better screen. I checked one out in a Verizon store, and the notch does NOT look as bad in person either. Though, if any devs make it so you can partially hide it instead of fully, I'll be all over that.
Probably will upgrade but truth is the pixel 3 is a very weak effort by Google. I should probably just call it a lazy attempt. I know some tech YouTubers have been saying that the effort is in the software but at least apple actually did a proper upgrade to their internals and software, not a half baked one .
I'll use it for a week and see how I feel about it.
malek777 said:
...at least apple actually did a proper upgrade to their internals and software, not a half baked one.
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I see the Pixel 3 an "s" year for the Pixel but better than what Apple's done. Things the Pixel 3 has that the Pixel 2 doesn't have or won't get:
Better processor, screen, speakers, wireless charging, wide angle lens for the front, photobooth, top shot, super res zoom, motion auto focus, lens suggestions for Google Lens, and Titan M security chip.
That's a bigger difference than the iPhone X and the iPhone XS.
That being said, I don't think any phone is worth getting for a yearly update. Getting the latest and greatest on a yearly basis just makes everything incremental and less significant of an upgrade. And going from one 2018 to another 2018 is just a lateral move which is even a bigger waste.
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Have you seen the XS? It's amazing. Feels better, looks better, runs better. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Battery life optimized to where you will drool. I'm not going there but..
Edit.. it's getting close. I'm not rooting these days there are no roms to speak of the. Wear OS is sketchy vs I watch or whatever they call it. Talk me down. I shouldn't have gone into the store and compared. The notch in the iPhone actually looks good. WTF? That being said I'll probably get the pixel 3 on BF. Probably..
I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
With the P3's lackluster 4GB of RAM, I definitely won't be upgrading to it. I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL for now and see what the OnePlus 7 has to offer.
Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
going to be doing the same, staying with 2XL. waiting for 4XL.
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Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
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Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch! ?
Badger50 said:
Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch!
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Yeah that huge notch is the main turnoff.
I need to keep seeing these posts, to avoid my itchy trigger finger. My wife has to upgrade her S8+ because she's terrible with her phones. She upgrades every year. I always use it as an excuse to upgrade too....don't wanna be left out, ya know??
Regardless. My Pixel 2xl is a wonderful phone. Absolutely no reason to move on. I always use Swappa. I haven't used an " upgrade" in 4 years.... Verizon can suck it.
djcrystals said:
I need to keep seeing these posts, to avoid my itchy trigger finger. My wife has to upgrade her S8+ because she's terrible with her phones. She upgrades every year. I always use it as an excuse to upgrade too....don't wanna be left out, ya know??
Regardless. My Pixel 2xl is a wonderful phone. Absolutely no reason to move on. I always use Swappa. I haven't used an " upgrade" in 4 years.... Verizon can suck it.
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Your best value is always last year's top model.
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Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
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I won't consider another Pixel phone until they bump up the Ram to at least 6GB. The notch on the P3XL doesn't bother me as much as its horrible memory management.
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I need dual speakers...that works on Verizon. That's why I snagged the Pixel 2XL..... Had the Moto X Pure prior which had stereo too. It's just a feature I really really enjoy in a phone. I'd like to play with a Razer 2....I know that has stereo speakers...
In my opinion the Nexus era was way better. The upgrades between generations were mostly worth the price. Even if not all of the new features were great, Nexus Devices were way more affordable. You could switch to a newer released model without paying almost 1K every time. Seems to me the Pixel Devices just can't keep up with that. I mean yeah, Camera for example got way better but I'm not seeing to much more that got noticeably better.
Anyways, the Pixel 2 is still a good phone I love to use every day. I will keep it and see what the Pixel 4 has in store. But Google should come up with something better than last year. Besides, imho it's enough to switch phones every 2 years (or more) if not something groundbreaking gets announced.
cornel.atomei said:
I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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Problem is that phones have become a commodity meanwhile, so upgrades oftenly don't make sense anymore. It's like in the PC world, where most notebooks are used until they wear out.
When I bought the original Samsung Galaxy Tab, it seemed to be too slow. With the Asus TF700, it was better, but still too slow and with barely acceptable battery runtime. The Sony Xperia Z2 tablet fixed both, this was the first device which was "good enough" with its Snapdragon 801. Still using it to this day.
The same goes for phones - upgrading from an SGS2 to an SGS4 was like day and night: Such a fast SoC (albeit still a bit too slow), such a gorgeous screen and the incredible speed of LTE!
The Pixel 2 XL also immediately got me: Such a well put together software, superb camera and finally a really good battery runtime. But when I compared rendering a web site on my old LG G5 and the new Pixel 2 XL, there was barely a difference. The reason why the Pixel performs so much better is in the software, not the hardware.
So now I have a phone with a good screen that is fast enough, a camera which is good enough even in low light and a battery runtime which never causes me trouble.
So why the hell should I upgrade now? I could be wrong and the Pixel 4 could bring something radically new or better which makes me upgrade immediately, but I really doubt it. I expect it to be a minor upgrade to the Pixel 3, like the 3 was to the 2.
Hence I plan to simply use my Pixel 2 XL until it breaks down. Why waste money for an upgrade I hardly notice?
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Your best value is always last year's top model.
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This is what I usually do. I can't pay $1k for a phone regardless of how much I use it. I'd rather buy last years flagship phone at about 50-60% of that cost. So, I'll wait another year with my 2XL and see what happens.
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Anyways, the Pixel 2 is still a good phone I love to use every day. I will keep it and see what the Pixel 4 has in store. But Google should come up with something better than last year. Besides, imho it's enough to switch phones every 2 years (or more) if not something groundbreaking gets announced.
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Agreed. Since having my P2XL, this is the first year I haven't had a burning desire to upgrade to the "latest & greatest". I will wait and see what P4/XL offers. I prefer a larger display and battery, but if P4XL still has a hideous notch then I'll get a regular P4 or just keep my P2XL until it dies.
As a Note 9 user, I still enjoy using my Pixel 2 XL a lot and I swap my Note 9 with it from time to time, as my daily driver. That phone holds up very well, it's still super fast, the camera is still premium by today's standards, It does less things than my Note 9, and it doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it's rock-solid and reliable, and in the end of the day that's what really matters.
If I was to get a new Pixel today, I'd absolutely pick the Pixel 2 XL over the Pixel 3 XL. The features/performance/price ratio is just way better.
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I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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I've been testing pixel 2 xl Vs Xiaomi Mi9 cameras. And guess which one I chose.
alojo said:
I've been testing pixel 2 xl Vs Xiaomi Mi9 cameras. And guess which one I chose.
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The iPhone! :laugh::silly::laugh::good:
cornel.atomei said:
I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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Yes, I looked at the specs and bought the model that was almost 2 years old, no difference, sort of like comparing the Apple X to the XS, no difference. AFAIK, the 3 loses the laser focus that the 2 had.
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Badger50 said:
Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch!
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Agreed, if I wanted an iPhone, I would get one.
Is it worth to buy the Pixel 2 XL now? I could buy the 128GB version for 399€. Updates are guaranteed until October 2020. It's next year so it might be possible it's getting Android R, doesn't it? I am using Sony Xperia Z5 since it's release. What do you think?
Dreiundachzig said:
Is it worth to buy the Pixel 2 XL now? I could buy the 128GB version for 399€. Updates are guaranteed until October 2020. It's next year so it might be possible it's getting Android R, doesn't it? I am using Sony Xperia Z5 since it's release. What do you think?
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I still dig my phone 2XL. I would not buy a Verizon version at any price but an unlocked Google version is still fun for sure.