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Should I upgrade to Android M?

I'm asking this question because I want input from users who did upgrade and I'm not sure if I need the upgrade or not.
I'm currently going by the logic: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm quite happy with how Android L with the stock Kernel works on my device and after looking at the features that Google advertises for M I discovered that I can live without most of them.
I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system, app permissions, overall performance improvements in apps and general usage and some misc things like the new copy/paste thingy.
So let's say that of all the above, I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system. How well does it in you experience work? How much more usage do you get out of your phone? Do the new Doze and App Standby features really work as well as Google advertises them?
Also how stable is Android M on the Nexus 4? This is the main thing that is keeping me from upgrading. I would rather stay on stock then get a few new features that may or may not work well or even worse, get a phone that crashes every 5 minutes.
I'm currently looking to use the Pure Nexus Project ROM (because I want the pure Google experience) and the TAURUS Kernel (heard a lot of good things about this Kernel and it works well with the ROM I've chosen by the reports of some users).
So what do think? Is it worth it to upgrade to M or should I wait for the next major Android version?
Thank you for reading.

I have been using One Of A Kind ROM (OCT 31, Build) and it has been rock solid for me. My phone's battery definitely lasts longer than stock Lollipop ROM. We are talking a couple of hours extra. The Doze feature works well, there is very little battery drain on standby. You will see that from battery stats. You will be waiting for a while until next iteration of Android. As you know Google has stopped supporting Nexus 4, it will be at least few weeks to a month before we get anything going for our beloved Nexus 4. Even then, the stability won't be guaranteed.
I think there are a few stable ROMs out there. Back up everything and give it a try. Worst case scenario, you go back to what you had.
I tried M, and I am not going back to Lollipop.

Yes, you should. Doze makes a difference for me, and the permission stuff is always useful to have. If you find yourself confortable with stock L, then you should flash "stock M", which is, in my opinion: Fake Nexus ROM.
I had same doubts one month ago, and I tried with a few ROMs out here, searching for stability, battery life, without compromising performance. I stopped on the ROM I linked you, try it!

Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.

It does have noticeable improvements, the system is smoother, battery life is longer (you should probably install Grennify to further improve the new Doze mode and App Standby functionalities),
and it comes with app permission control.
With regard to stablization, I have been using the PureNexusProject rom and the TAURUS kernel for nearly a month, no reboot no crash, no bizarre behaviors, everything seems fine and I really enjoy it.
I personally recommand you to try it, anyway it's the new Android!

I'm loving android M, Doze is really working to me!
So I think you should give it a try.

LORD MJ said:
Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.
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Why?

TheArt. said:
Why?
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For a number or reasons. It's mostly that I'm happy how things are working right now and I don't have time to upgrade. Also, I don't have enough space to fully backup my apps.

ROM suggestion for a S5 User

Hi,
My father is using my old S5 (KLTE) for about 2 years now. He's recently complaining about the performance (response and battery) of the phone. So I was in search for a price/performance phone to replace his S5.
But then I decided that in the old days, I was able to have better performance from my old Android phones by just changing the rom. (to a lite and recent version) together with a factory reset, I believe he will have better performance for at least a few more months while I find a better phone for him
So, I'd like to get your suggestions on a performance rom.
Preferably, I'd go with a touchwiz based rom because I don't want to change his familiarity of the interface. But I know that it (touchwiz) would mean loss of performance.
he's used to use video talk over the GSM so I believe this is only available in touchwiz , right ?
On the other hand, a lite rom with possibly Nougat (7.1.x) would be a good upgrade.
I can't select at the moment which path to go.
Can you recommend me best roms for each path ? (Touchwiz and Non-Touchwiz)
Thanks.

Currently I'm with the stock Marshmallow ROM from Samsung and it's pretty fast. You can check my signature for all the info about it. But I'll soon change to MagMa ROM VX3 (when it gets released) which is a port from the S8/Note 8. While still on Android 6.0.1 it has all the features and is lighter I think. Try out a few ROMs and see which one's the best. It all depends on apps installed, kernel used, disabled stuff, etc. In my opinion better to stay on TouchWiz since he's familiar with it. Plus non-touchwiz ROMs tend to have bugs.

I would like to know also if there is any custom rom than has better performance than the last stock one and has no bugs. I'm afraid that custom roms could have neither and add some extra features that won't compensate.
About the battery you can simply buy another one. That was the last Galaxy S to have a removable one and that is the main reason why I have not upgraded it. But I have the feeling the phone has become slower, even I have reset it.

Try these ROM. It is a TouchWiz Rom so I think your dad would like it. It is fast in terms of performance and battery life is okay. Works best with boeffla. Heres the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...om-xxx-limits-1-1-stable-smooth-fast-t3304941

Nardskie1999 said:
Try these ROM. It is a TouchWiz Rom so I think your dad would like it. It is fast in terms of performance and battery life is okay. Works best with boeffla. Heres the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...om-xxx-limits-1-1-stable-smooth-fast-t3304941
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But in what way is this better that the last stock one? And it has any disadvantage? (battery life, bugs etc that are usual in custom roms)
For me the bigger problem of the phone are not the features, that come mostly from the apps and they are the same. It is the performance as it always have a delay before starting any app that is not present in newer devices.
Even cheap devices as the Moto 5 has better performance, but the camera and the display is worse as the Galaxy S5 was a high end device making the upgrade a mix bag. Unless I go to more expensive devices. But the ideal would be a rom that optimize more the speed.

karlpj said:
But in what way is this better that the last stock one? And it has any disadvantage? (battery life, bugs etc that are usual in custom roms)
For me the bigger problem of the phone are not the features, that come mostly from the apps and they are the same. It is the performance as it always have a delay before starting any app that is not present in newer devices.
Even cheap devices as the Moto 5 has better performance, but the camera and the display is worse as the Galaxy S5 was a high end device making the upgrade a mix bag. Unless I go to more expensive devices. But the ideal would be a rom that optimize more the speed.
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So far so good. No problems or bugs at all. The performance of the Rom is absolutely amazing when it comes to games or whatever you are doing. I even got a 64000 score in Antutu Benchmark without overclocking. I think it is the most stablest Rom that I had to my galaxy s5.

My recomendation if you want fast its the Ressurection Remix 5.8.5...
Its the fastest rom I've tried no doubt

Sharlimar said:
My recomendation if you want fast its the Ressurection Remix 5.8.5...
Its the fastest rom I've tried no doubt
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But is buggy in any way? And what is the link for the rom? I have done a search and appears lots of different versions.
My s5 has the tendency to stall at the start of google maps and is rather slow with google assistant. Eventually I will buy one new but I would prefer a s9 (that is quite near) or s10

karlpj said:
But is buggy in any way? And what is the link for the rom? I have done a search and appears lots of different versions.
My s5 has the tendency to stall at the start of google maps and is rather slow with google assistant. Eventually I will buy one new but I would prefer a s9 (that is quite near) or s10
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I can tell you its that google maps its faster on rr 5.8.5 and on home screen you slide to the left and you are on google assistant so its great for you
You find the oficial rr rom on the oficial site
Search on google

Help me pick a ROM?

I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?

I've been trying many roms over the last 48 hours and have come out with some first impressions that may help you. The first rom I tried was resurrection remix, a mod a user made of the official one (downloaded it by accident and thought it was official, upon reading up on it the only difference seems to me armanian translation option or something) and it was OK. I noticed a few issues but it was good but everyone was raving about pixel ex. so I gave that a go. It is less feature packed but smoother, so very noticeable. Not that the other one was bad, but if I exited pubg mobile to nova launcher it was slow af. But was fine. Pixel experience is good. Its fast, fluid and with no issues. I haven't noticed any battery issues on it, definitely better than rr tho. I then heard that frankenrom was good but the download is down. But in the thread I found my favourite edition of the gcam mod for moto g5 plus yet, a very good hdr+ mod by bsg. So with frankenrom not working out I went to firehound. It was rr but a bit slower and overdone visuals. I went to rr again (official latest release this time) and I have to my surprise it was worse than the mod. I also found that it doesn't let my gcam work on it. Then I tried dirty unicorns for its supposed stability but was unimpressed by the light tweaking but still packed feeling (rr roms are good because they feel full of stuff and they are. This had the same feeling but just not as much stuff, not worth it). I'm now back on pixel ex and have no issues. Google photos works fine and both storage options are available. Battery life seems good. But I had some issues when it came to using xposed. After you install the modules and boot back up the screen doesn't display. Maybe the system less magisk might be better. It's almost a deal breaker, I love gboard but can't stand how it doesn't autocorrect in search fields and has made the mod awayscorrect a need for me. And in a rom with very little customisation it's more necessary than ever. But other than that it's great. Also it handles my bsg gcam mod the best so far.
All in all I'd recommend either rr or pixel ex. I'm liking the light and breezy feel of pe for now but will probably be on another rom my this time tomorrow. But check out the gcam it's got the best autofocus out of all the ones I've tried which I hear is a big problem for moto g5 plus owners. It's on the franked rom thread and it's urikill.apk.
I'd you have any more questions ask away, more than happy to help.
Edit: also very potter rom has moto actions, they'd be scrutinised by everyone if they didn't. And fingerprint gestures in the vast majority of roms.

64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.

Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...

I need to say i had both Nitrogen and Bootleggers at least one week and both were smoothly great. First Nitro then Boot, in that order. But Bootleggers has a few more tweak options. In the other hand, i tried Liquid Remix only one day and was incredible with a lot of tweaks and very fast and smooth ux. Id like to hear some reviews about the three i mentioned.

Dishe said:
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?

kartiklohia said:
Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.

rajeshkoshti said:
Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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OP?

Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for AEX rom...its too good for daily driver and no bugs...almost perfect 64bit 8.1 oreo for Potter

rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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It's an idea but I'm actually tired of dealing with trying to stay updated on modified stock. Everytime there's an OTA, it's a major hassle to update, or I could block the update notification and jump through those hoops to stay outdated which seems silly too. Also, I was holding out because I thought Oreo would be 64-bit, which has proven performance gains, not to mention I wouldn't mind one of the newer gcam builds which will never work on 32bit. Basically, I lost interest bin waiting once I found out the stock rom would never be what I wanted.
I'll also add that every device I've ever owned has run a custom rom (with the exception of a couple of obscure devices which had none available- those were dark times). I'm not uncomfortable deviating from stock, but I'm into stable and not experimental. The Moto stock was so clean however, this is the longest I've ever been on stock with a device capable of custom!
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Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
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Interested in this one. Loved lineage on other devices I've had. Curious why this option isn't more popular. For some reason everytime someone mentions it, conversation quickly turns to PE.
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Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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Yes, but are there no roms that equate for stability battery and clean ui? Because I've had roms on other devices that improved stability battery and user experience.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm actually not familiar with aex for example!

also last time I checked there were some roms which didnt support dual sim.
Most users dont mind occasional hiccups but no compromise with basic functionality.
You should go ahead with Lineage, its not the most feature packed rom but then one can tailor cook with different mods according to one's taste.
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Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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This comparison video may also help you a great deal, the owner of the video has put in a lot of effort. Do hit the button if you like the video, my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNJMeXkVIM
I guess I am gonna go with the AEX - AospExtended, best of both the worlds.
Have fun.

Dishe said:
But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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I don't use online storage. I keep my photos in local storage only. So that's not a deal breaker for me at all.

I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??

Fererio said:
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
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No ROM is bug free, once u enter modding/flashing world u need to be prompt in trying variety of roms so that u get tailor made experience as per your usage pattern. Try other roms and u decide for urself. Afterall all this comes with a red bold DISCLAIMER.
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rajeshkoshti said:
Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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I'd stay away from that tool - I tried it last month when trying to root and most of its steps did not properly work. I ended up doing everything after unlocking bootloader manually

Actually both that tool and the video in that post weren't terribly helpful. Unlocking bootloader isn't difficult enough to need a tool and the video was a generic rom discussion, but details vary by device and he was not talking about the G5+. Im already aware of what the roms are supposed to be, but his findings on that phone might not be consistent with our own.
I do appreciate the response and trying to help, though! So it sounds like now I'm leaning towards lineage simply because I think I can get around the issues preventing me from PE, while still getting the benefits of a clean 64-bit Oreo rom.

one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.

rajeshkoshti said:
one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
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If I were you, I'd backup EFS and Persist both seperately and also along with the entire backup considering how precious these two partitions are.
Another reason I'd like to give you here to make a seperate EFS and Persist backup is for cases where you just need to restore EFS and Persist partitions and not the entire ROM.
Whenever you feel like going back to stock, just restore the entire backup back.
But that's just my opinion.

Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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try Arrow rom it doesn't have many options but havr useful rom unlike other roms they are in the place where they should be not consolidated in one place.
And rom is super smooth IMO its more smooth than any other custom rom and everything works smoothly.

Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for Havoc OS (By Akhil_dev) without a single thought. I am using is from last 1 month. It is fast and fluid. No need to use any xposed module or anything else for any customization. It has lots of customization options built in.

best rom for the k1

Was the best rom for this tablet, the stock version is pretty laggy, im flashing a optimized rom to see if improves but any suggestions?

efrommel said:
Was the best rom for this tablet, the stock version is pretty laggy, im flashing a optimized rom to see if improves but any suggestions?
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I got the base rom to run pretty good once I turned off all notifications and animations, and set the max number of background processes to 4

I like los14.1... but I've barebones the build by deleting everything I don't want and then I added some tweaks to make it feel real good.

All the custom roms are more or less the same (except for stock based like stock+ rom) because they are all made from Steel01's sources baked with custom rom specific files. So pick the one you find the prettiest or the most useful...

Hi All
What is latest ROM , there is any stability one from end of 2018 . Maybe someone working on new one ?

It depends what you're going for on your tablet. If you're aiming to keep all the Nvidia specific features I would recommend the 5.4.1 stock+ rom. If you don't care about any of that I believe that lineage is the way to go. Between the two, performance is the same for the most part, lineage is based on 7.1.2 though instead of 7.0, so you get a few newer features. If I have time later to come back to this I'll link them.

Jz5678910 said:
It depends what you're going for on your tablet. If you're aiming to keep all the Nvidia specific features I would recommend the 5.4.1 stock+ rom. If you don't care about any of that I believe that lineage is the way to go. Between the two, performance is the same for the most part, lineage is based on 7.1.2 though instead of 7.0, so you get a few newer features. If I have time later to come back to this I'll link them.
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Thank You
I will try go with that one- 5.4.1 stock+ rom

CAT5000 said:
Thank You
I will try go with that one- 5.4.1 stock+ rom
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I've been trying the 5.4.1+ rom. For some reason it crashes and boot loops after installing Swift Keyboard Damn, I really like that keyboard. Then I updated Magisk on it, to get a message saying the new Magisk app isn't supported. So I uninstalled it to download the previous version and that caused a bootloop now too
Just flashed it again, hopefully it works better this time.

I am also wondering what is the best ROM for my K1 is?
First off, I bought this tablet used. Did some research and found out about the battery recall, mine is not one of them, as in I have the newer/better battery.
Secondly I did update the stock rom to 5.4 but the battery drain was horrendous. No gaming, just surfing facebook or the internet was a draining the battery in a few hours. Even in standby on my nightstand, battery was almost dead the next morning. Then after some research many people said to downgrade to 5.2 which I did and it pretty much fixed the battery drain issue.
Then I found out about LineageOS and decided to install 15.1, performance is good, but does still experience some battery drain issues, but not as bad as 5.4.
I also know that earlier this year LineageOS has returned support for the Nividia Shield K1 tablet, but is that for OS 17 and how long do I have to wait for that version?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

afrowookie said:
I am also wondering what is the best ROM for my K1 is?
First off, I bought this tablet used. Did some research and found out about the battery recall, mine is not one of them, as in I have the newer/better battery.
Secondly I did update the stock rom to 5.4 but the battery drain was horrendous. No gaming, just surfing facebook or the internet was a draining the battery in a few hours. Even in standby on my nightstand, battery was almost dead the next morning. Then after some research many people said to downgrade to 5.2 which I did and it pretty much fixed the battery drain issue.
Then I found out about LineageOS and decided to install 15.1, performance is good, but does still experience some battery drain issues, but not as bad as 5.4.
I also know that earlier this year LineageOS has returned support for the Nividia Shield K1 tablet, but is that for OS 17 and how long do I have to wait for that version?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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On 5.4 to get regular battery usage you have to enable custom cpu profiles, the default profile doesn't idle properly and the cpu's stay in a higher frequency state. You can then have all 4 cores enabled and it will idle properly (well it does for me), and you have nvidia driver support for the original wifi game controller which i have.
Otherwise, if you use a LineageOS 14 build, you can have full hardware video acceleration, on 15 builds you won't have hardware video acceleration.

So what your saying is I can go back to 5.4 and just play with the settings? Any special apps to do this, or just all within the android settings that need changing in order to have the performance and stop the battery drain problem?
If it's just the android settings, what are the settings I need to change? Tutorial?
Thanks

AOSP extended from bit obsession is a bit old but still snappy!

p3dboard said:
On 5.4 to get regular battery usage you have to enable custom cpu profiles, the default profile doesn't idle properly and the cpu's stay in a higher frequency state. You can then have all 4 cores enabled and it will idle properly (well it does for me), and you have nvidia driver support for the original wifi game controller which i have.
Otherwise, if you use a LineageOS 14 build, you can have full hardware video acceleration, on 15 builds you won't have hardware video acceleration.
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Got a link to the LineageOS 14 build that you use?
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battery
honestly, i think we are all screwed
my tablet wont charge at all now. it shows the icon on the screen saying it is charging but it doesnt charge at all. sometimes i can get about 10% on it.
the computer no longer recognises the device and i have only ever used official ota firmwares for it
spoke to Nvidia and all i got was the out of warrenty response.
they no longer care in anyway about shield tablet users and as it is discontinued its not like you can even buy a replacement. you cant buy secondhand either because theyll all just have the same bollocks battery issues we have on ours now.

I'll contribute a data point for anyone reading in late-2019 going into 2020:
I'm on Stock+ 5.4.1 on my K1 and it has been great for me so far in the last few weeks since I flashed it. I had been on the stock Marshmallow firmware for the past three years and was having the typical lag issues on wake. It was so severe that the tablet was completely unusable coming out of a deep sleep. It was also a chore to reboot it because even the lag on holding down the power button was agonizing and unpredictable. It was worse than booting Windows with an old hard drive.
I've had no lag-on-wake issues with Stock+ 5.4.1 so far. It's like coming back to remember why I liked this tablet in the first place after hating it for the past couple of years. I hadn't used it for anything other than daily alarms over the past year and change, but lately, I've been using it for bedside reading again instead of my phones.
To address a few of the issues that have been brought up in this thread:
I haven't had any battery drain issues with Stock+ 5.4.1. It seems to do about the same on my K1 as Marshmallow did, which was 100% to 15% on idle except for daily alarms (and snoozes) from Sunday through Saturday.
I ordered a new 6000 mAh replacement battery from AliExpress and will be installing it when needed. My current battery life isn't great, but it's not horrible either. I think it still manages to have about 80% of its original capacity.
After installing Stock+ 5.4.1, I flashed the latest Magisk 20.1 zip (Stock+ 5.4.1 came with Magisk 16.0) from within TWRP at a later date with no issues. Magisk 18+ is not compatible with Magisk Manager versions older than 7.0.0, but the old versions of Magisk Manager were bad in that they would always ask you to update to the latest version regardless of what version of Magisk you had installed. Basically, Magisk Manager was asking you for permission to nuke itself.
I have never used the official Facebook or Messenger apps, but virtually every comment I've ever read about them say that they're battery killers. Use a third-party app that combines both and has a smaller memory footprint.
I used to be an avid user of SwiftKey, but I've since soured on it. I haven't installed it on my K1 since the firmware upgrade and I don't know if I will going forward. The biggest benefit of SwiftKey used to be the dedicated number row, but its predictive swiping was the worst I had ever used. I'm on Gboard now and it seems to be working well. The only feature I miss from SwiftKey is the arrow keys to move the text cursor.

I am also wondering what is the best ROM. I got a K1 used as well not too long ago, and I mostly want to use it as a study tool for some CompTIA certifications in 2020, so viewing PDF's/word docs, exam simulations, and tutorial videos will be it's primary function. I do like comics so I would like it to perform snappy.
I really have no interest in gaming or social media.

eastbayarb said:
I am also wondering what is the best ROM. I got a K1 used as well not too long ago, and I mostly want to use it as a study tool for some CompTIA certifications in 2020, so viewing PDF's/word docs, exam simulations, and tutorial videos will be it's primary function. I do like comics so I would like it to perform snappy.
I really have no interest in gaming or social media.
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I went with a stock-based ROM because I still wanted all of the tablet's functionality to work as designed, even though I've never played games on my K1 using a controller or created an Nvidia account. However, as long as retaining those features won't cause the device to run poorly and there isn't anything inherently poor about the stock experience, I don't mind. Stock-based ROMs are usually easier to set up and install. Nvidia stock firmware isn't known for being particularly bloated or heavy like that of some phone manufacturers, but of course LineageOS is still going to be faster at the cost of some device-specific features.
Given your intended use, as long as you use something newer than the stock Marshmallow firmware and its wake lag issues, you probably don't need to worry about much else.

I decided to dig my K1 out of the closet and have a play with over the holidays. I just flashed the stock recovery 5.20 but for some reason I cannot update or download any apps from the Google Play Store. I keep getting error 963. I searched how to fix this but nothing has worked.
Anyone else been able to fix this?

new Samsung S5 mini user in 2019

Hello,
After changing tons of phones in last weeks/months, i finaly got my s5 mini, my dream phone it seems. It is of a perfect size for me and it is very grippy due to rubber back cover. Now i want to improve it as much as i can. I want to stay on stock 6.0.1 rom (unless u see there is any point in downgrading ?). I will first say what i did and then ask what i can do to improve it further.
What i did:
1. turn all animations to 0 in developers options
2. turn off s voice
3. disabled all apps i could that i dont need
4. turned off a bunch of other things i dont need
What i need help with:
1. what else can i do to further improve performance
2. google maps app seems a bit slow. Any way to improve it or is this phone simply to weak
3. any tips for camera, how to take better photos/video, any settings i should change ?

No one ?

Hello,
I personally think its kind of funny that someone says that the s5 mini is their dream phone in 2019. I mean its kind of old and outdated now and while I can of course understand that you like the size of it and the rubber back, there are many alternatives which also dont break the bank. I think without rooting or flashing another Rom, your experience is not going to get better than it already is. The s5 mini is not the most powerful phone you know. Anyways I used a galaxy s5 mini from 2014 untill 2018 and I was never really happy with it. It was always slow and sluggish, though the camera was good for 2014 and what I really liked about it was its ip67 certification, I got into the pool with it xD. I ran it on Android 4.4.2 for most of its live, mainly because I rooted it in 2015 and thus couldnt update to a newer version of Android. But in late 2017 I decided to factory reset and flash a stock Android 5 Rom via Kies. After that I updatet to 6.0.1 Marshmello, but in early 2018 the hole thing was to slow for me and I threw a custom Rom on it. Android 8 but it was in beta and very buggy so I flashed Resurection Remix with Android 7.1.2. It was already way faster and more modern than on the stock Rom. But then I found a Kernel that would let me overclock the cpu from 1.4 Ghz to 1.6 Ghz and the Gpu from 400 mhz to 600 mhz. So i used that Kernel and the phone was actually very useable. The first time in 4 years of ownwership, I was really happy with my s5 mini. I bought a new phone (Honor 9) though only like 6 weeks after flashing the Kernel lol. The Honor 9, after 1 year has never let me down tough and im very very happy with it.

S5 mini G800F
Hi there,
I'm happy with my S5 mini (G800F), but I really need an Dual SIM device with better battery life and will have to get one soon. Battery life is weak point.
I have installed LineageOS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2), didn't have success to install Gapps though. Using F-Droid and YalpStore. There are some bugs with the camera (it stops working) but after restart works fine again.
It is an OK device, but a bit slow and with short battery life.
Unfortunately from 2-3 weeks there is a problem with my main microphone and is not the mic itself but some motherboard bad connection or something. Works fine with headset but it is not really convenient
According to some people if one switches Off the LTE the battery life is better.
Instead of Gmaps I'm using HereWeGo, OruxMaps and Sygic - all for free.
About the camera: I am using Open Camera. The camera app of LOS 14.1 is really plain Of OpenCamera I like the DRO option, but it takes a few seconds to generate the picture.
Hope you will find the best way to use your S5 mini. It is very cute device with so many advantages like notification LED with RGB, ambient light sensor, NFC, IR, AMOLED, small size and weight... I will miss all of this in such a small and ergonomic package.
I understand your point. There are no more under 5" devices with normal specs. So sad...
Best regards!

Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?

Zsheoran said:
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
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I can't say for sure, but I quite like Viperos and AOSPExtended Oreo. Not using it actively anymore though.

Zsheoran said:
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
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I recommend the unofficial LineageOs 16 custom rom for you. This is the most stable rom I’ve ever seen for the S5 mini.
Only Requirement is to have the G800F model.
Otherwise you will break you phone.

Im running CrDroid 5.12 on my g800f with the Spookcity Kernel and Magisk. Although I'm using a Oneplus 5 as my main device I'm very happy with the results. You can run Android P roms like Posp, LineageOS, CrDroid, bootleggers or Aosp (extended). I think you can get very happy using POSP with Open Gapps nano/Pico. But CrDroid is the only rom, which is getting updated. It also is the only Pie rom supporting NFC.
OC Kernel 1.6
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m0cg3PQV1XGGPSbBIi1QxuhTDaulX6EL/view
CrDroid
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-crdroid-5-0-pie-t3880298
POSP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-posp-v2-2-t3921291
Bootleggers
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397969246
Open Gapps
https://opengapps.org/
Magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445

This might be a pretty late reply, but I hope it can help.
If you want to stay on Marshmallow, I would really recommend rooting your device. I can't tell you exactly which, but you can deactivate a lot of system apps with root, which can improve performance in some scenarios (Look at some debloat script from other Samsung phones - a lot of the apps are the same). For deactivating system apps I use this app. Alternatively you could try to deactivate system apps without root with ADB.
In my opinion the Google apps are all very slow and all the system apps slow your device down a lot (from my experience the Google Play Services and especially the Google Play Store), which is why I either use microG on the Stock ROM or at least deactivate what I can.
Sadly you can't push much more performance out of this phone, especially not without a Custom ROM. It has four pretty weak CPUs and one really bad GPU - don't expect to be able to play any even slightly demanding games, better stay at those 2D titles. The only way to make it feel faster is to use the lightest
- OS (in my opinion any Android 6 ROM)
- system apps (disable unnecessary-seeming ones - but be very careful!) <- of course only on Stock ROM
- third-party/user apps (if an app is slow, look for alternatives - for example you could look at OSMand or MAPS.ME istead of Google Maps)

Pokemetti2 said:
This might be a pretty late reply, but I hope it can help.
If you want to stay on Marshmallow, I would really recommend rooting your device. I can't tell you exactly which, but you can deactivate a lot of system apps with root, which can improve performance in some scenarios (Look at some debloat script from other Samsung phones - a lot of the apps are the same). For deactivating system apps I use this app. Alternatively you could try to deactivate system apps without root with ADB.
In my opinion the Google apps are all very slow and all the system apps slow your device down a lot (from my experience the Google Play Services and especially the Google Play Store), which is why I either use microG on the Stock ROM or at least deactivate what I can.
Sadly you can't push much more performance out of this phone, especially not without a Custom ROM. It has four pretty weak CPUs and one really bad GPU - don't expect to be able to play any even slightly demanding games, better stay at those 2D titles. The only way to make it feel faster is to use the lightest
- OS (in my opinion any Android 6 ROM)
- system apps (disable unnecessary-seeming ones - but be very careful!) <- of course only on Stock ROM
- third-party/user apps (if an app is slow, look for alternatives - for example you could look at OSMand or MAPS.ME istead of Google Maps)
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The Google app is a mandatory update with the new Play Store layout and app updates eat into the storage of the phone.