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So guys,waiting for my GS2 to arrive tomorrow and it's time for the hundred bucks question:
Will we be able to overclock the Mali GPU in the GS2 like the SGX540 in the original GS was?Imagine the performance of this thing with an overclocked GPU!
And before you ask,no,its stock power isn't enough for me.As long as I can get more out of it that is.I will probably have it running at 1.5GHz everyday,so I'm not the kind of guy who will "proceed with caution"!
Thanks!All feedback welcome!
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I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
I even gave my phone to a colleague who has one too, and he was using it without a thought. He indeed asked me why mine was faster than his... xD
So not a clue if you can OC the GPU, but I've yet to see a single reason to OC this phone.
pulser_g2 said:
I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
I even gave my phone to a colleague who has one too, and he was using it without a thought. He indeed asked me why mine was faster than his... xD
So not a clue if you can OC the GPU, but I've yet to see a single reason to OC this phone.
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Well,power corrupts my friend!And with a phone so powerful I can't help it!
Seriously though,it is nice if something like this is possible.See the original GS.The overclock of its GPU puts it against most dual core phones easily and it even bests some of them.Not likely something everyone will need in their everyday lives but you never know what the future holds!Maybe we will rival the Kal-El(Not likely I think but let's hope)!
Happy to see you here by the way pulser.It's really an honour!
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So no one interested?
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pulser_g2 said:
I've got my CPU underclocked to 500 MHz and honestly can't tell the difference between 1.2 GHz and 500 MHz...
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I have almost the same experience here, except I could see a difference between 500 and 800 Mhz, but anything above 800Mhz almost didn't change anything. Which proves that the CPU is not the bottleneck, so we should try to overclock the GPU
BlueScreenJunky said:
I have almost the same experience here, except I could see a difference between 500 and 800 Mhz, but anything above 800Mhz almost didn't change anything. Which proves that the CPU is not the bottleneck, so we should try to overclock the GPU
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ALMOST in my mind.Almost.My CPU for one will be a 1.5GHz one!Or even more!
Well,since pulser gave attention to the thread I am a little confident it might even be followed by some devs at some time(or that someone works on it at least),so I want to ask these two regarding the lack of texture compression formats issue:
1)Does anyone know whether Chainfire intends to make any plugins for Chainfire3D himself?While the available plugins do the job for some games,they don't for some others.So,I think Chainfire is our guy on this!
2)Is the issue hardware or software related?If it is software,what are the odds that Samsung or ARM provide a driver with support for all texture compression formats?I don't think that's likely to happen but,oh well,we can always hope for it!
tolis626 said:
2)Is the issue hardware or software related?If it is software,what are the odds that Samsung or ARM provide a driver with support for all texture compression formats?I don't think that's likely to happen but,oh well,we can always hope for it!
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It's definitely hardware related. Mali doesn't support Nvidia's, PowerVR's or Adreno's proprietary texture compression formats.
I think the gpu get overclocked with the cpu or at least that's how it was on the s1.
FPRobber said:
It's definitely hardware related. Mali doesn't support Nvidia's, PowerVR's or Adreno's proprietary texture compression formats.
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Oh well,my hopes are gone then...
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bcam117 said:
I think the gpu get overclocked with the cpu or at least that's how it was on the s1.
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I think it was seperately overclocked with a special kernel on the GS...I could be wrong but I doubt this as it had made me feel very jealous that it wasn't possible with my Desire.
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tolis626 said:
Oh well,my hopes are gone then...
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no, CF3D is a work around this VERY hardware "issue"
there can be other hardware things that aren't compatible however.
wait isn't the Mail 400 GPU a quad-core? I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
dk206 said:
I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
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Where did you hear that?
dk206 said:
wait isn't the Mail 400 GPU a quad-core? I've been hearing that it is but Samsung have disabled 2 cores to a dual core GPU.
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I think with dual-core they are referring to the CPU only.The GPU must have remained quad-core.Else how would it pit against the octa-core GeForce of the Tegra?
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omg i got 5000 (4951) score in quadrant overclock 1.6 ghz 1400 mv
With tegrak kernel and tegrak OC utility you can OC GPU, normally it idles at 160MHz and under load clocks to 267 MHz, max OC is 400MHz but phone gets really hot.
mine is stock. when the i play f&f 5 the battery would reach 10% in 2 hours!! so my guess is that oc the GPU would cause a huge drain for the battery
ghost77 said:
With tegrak kernel and tegrak OC utility you can OC GPU, normally it idles at 160MHz and under load clocks to 267 MHz, max OC is 400MHz but phone gets really hot.
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does the kernel offer good alround support?
comnam90 said:
does the kernel offer good alround support?
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It's stable and provides great performance. Although I'm using Ninphetamine right now. Can't use Tegrak oc with nin though. Only setcpu. Nin is oc to1.6 ghz. Tegrak is oc to 1.45GHZ.
EDIT: Just switched back to Tegrak kernel. Manual oc to 2.0 GHZ..Using Tegrak Oc. Stable.
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Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock and should I go higher maybe 2.2GHz
extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock
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Wow I'm surprised your play didn't explode lol
OT: are you still going to make that cm7 ROM you mentioned a while back because I'm sure lots of people are interested
Edit: can you tell what kernel/ROM you used and how you did it. Thanks
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abdel12345 said:
Wow I'm surprised your play didn't explode lol
OT: are you still going to make that cm7 ROM you mentioned a while back because I'm sure lots of people are interested
Edit: can you tell what kernel/ROM you used and how you did it. Thanks
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I need to fix lots of errors with the GB and I modified lupus v10 GB kernel
extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock
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Water cooling?
SmokeyTheAggie said:
Water cooling?
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Water cooled would be soo awesome !
there is a theory by turgot, that increasing a faktor wont increase the outcome at a specific point anymore. therefore i would be really interested how your play handles games at that oc. not only a benchmark, something like a video where its possible to see occouring errors, if there are any
this is great work you did, and it may allows some modification to the play.yes im thinking about cooling..even if it wont be that portable anymore. thanks for your help
2.3GHz
I'm currently going where no developer would go before my customized kernel has 26 CPU frequinces all up and a max of 2.3GHz
But without the GPU overclock and a 8mb GPU memory vs Lupus and dooms 4mb
i cant go even more than 1.6ghz
Needed an extra cooler solution and an powerful battery, like Mugen 3600mAh, to maintain this level of OC for diary use. Would be amazing!
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But without the GPU overclock and a 8mb GPU memory vs Lupus and dooms 4mb
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Wait, what? Lupus Kernel offers increased amount of VRAM?
IMHO this is perfectly fine if you don't care so much about the device, otherwise you would be crazy. OC'ng so high will eventually cause in-reversable damage. I know what your doing so no need for me to ask questions But even if its stable for you it wont be for others all depends on the chip and as we know each is different. Also even if people don't use 2.x ghz frequencies tend to jump to the highest for a mili second if even on boot, causing problems with the device actually booting.
Well just my 2 cents on OC'ing...
wedgess said:
IMHO this is perfectly fine if you don't care so much about the device, otherwise you would be crazy. OC'ng so high will eventually cause in-reversable damage. I know what your doing so no need for me to ask questions But even if its stable for you it wont be for others all depends on the chip and as we know each is different. Also even if people don't use 2.x ghz frequencies tend to jump to the highest for a mili second if even on boot, causing problems with the device actually booting.
Well just my 2 cents on OC'ing...
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What about 2 cents on this VRAM apparently being doubled?
At the end of the day its not GMEM which is essentially like a processors cache. Our chip has 256kb of it. But the allocated VMEM, would upping it to 8MB provide any sort of performance increase?
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Spizzy01 said:
What about 2 cents on this VRAM apparently being doubled?
At the end of the day its not GMEM which is essentially like a processors cache. Our chip has 256kb of it. But the allocated VMEM, would upping it to 8MB provide any sort of performance increase?
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So it's true then? How can it be possible?
Wow. Just wow.
Extremetempz, your username fits so well with this thread.
extremetempz said:
Title says it all
Edit and a 15MHz GPU overclock and should I go higher maybe 2.2GHz
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Can you get a stable 2.0ghz if so how do you do it?
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psxpetey said:
Can you get a stable 2.0ghz if so how do you do it?
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I don't know it just works up to 2.2GHz and then crash but my brothers play can only reach 1.6GHz every device is diferent
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I don't know it just works up to 2.2GHz and then crash but my brothers play can only reach 1.6GHz every device is diferent
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Can you post some benchmarks for the CPU? And also tell us more about the VRAM... Did it make any difference?
I believe that the Xplay has good chances of reach 2.0GHZ, running fine, provided has an good thermal solution. In my test, the games run fine for some minutes, before start overheat. Needed of somebody to build an custom cooler, then, make some tests. In my opinion, the safe clock, for sure, is not only 1.6GHZ. Only for default cooler.
leots said:
Can you post some benchmarks for the CPU? And also tell us more about the VRAM... Did it make any difference?
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I CBF screen shooting but CPU at 2.1 is around 20% faster then 1.6 and the GPU is around 25% faster with a 2600 3d score in antutu without adrenobooster
I know it's kind of not allowed to redistribute this but can u upload the kernel and send it ti me (PM) cus I will take some screens ans my play can handle 2GHz fine but bootloops when gaming after about 30-50 minutwa (depends on intensity of game!)
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Hi, anyone here have this lag issue too when playing game like asphalt 8 or gta : sa on stock tw 4.4.2 ?
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
Hi, anyone here have this lag issue too when playing game like asphalt 8 or gta : sa on stock tw 4.4.2 ?
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Gameloft games are only optimised for Adreno and Mali, not PowerVR.
GTA SA lags with almost all android devices
Man, but this game no lag in stock tw 4.3 and cm11 even i used only 2 core clocked in 1.200ghz.. maybe this bug only in i9500 tw 4.4.2 ?
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
Man, but this game no lag in stock tw 4.3 and cm11 even i used only 2 core clocked in 1.200ghz.. maybe this bug only in i9500 tw 4.4.2 ?
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Probably Samsung's aggressive thermal throttling which was introduced with 4.4.2.
BTW, how on earth did you get games to only run on 2 of the 4 low power A7 cores?
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Probably Samsung's aggressive thermal throttling which was introduced with 4.4.2.
BTW, how on earth did you get games to only run on 2 of the 4 low power A7 cores?
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I dont know, but game realy work without lag in dual core.. yeah samsung should work solve that bug i think.. i cant use 4.4.2 then..
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
I dont know, but game realy work without lag in dual core.. yeah samsung should work solve that bug i think.. i cant use 4.4.2 then..
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How on did you know it was just running on two cores?
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MrAndroid12 said:
How on did you know it was just running on two cores?
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i disable it in stweak using MaxFour kernel.. ain't a15 run too on 1.200ghz ? i think not only a7..
yeah asphalt 8 high graphic run fine on my i9100 and gta : sa lowest setting..
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
i disable it in stweak using MaxFour kernel.. ain't a15 run too on 1.200ghz ? i think not only a7..
yeah asphalt 8 high graphic run fine on my i9100 and gta : sa lowest setting..
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No, the A15s run at 1.6Ghz... which is what I am rather concerned about.
Because a normally functioning phone should utilise all cores and speeds should be fluctuating above 1.2Ghz in for graphically intensive games in your case.
The i9100 has a optimised Mali 400 GPU which should run GTA better than most Adreno or PowerVR of that gen.
It is also worth noting that the SGS2 is running at a awfully lot lower resolution at 800*480 compared to 1920*1080 which will require a lot more processing power than the S2 to run those games at similar settings.
Both GPU and CPU are important.
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MrAndroid12 said:
No, the A15s run at 1.6Ghz... which is what I am rather concerned about.
Because a normally functioning phone should utilise all cores and speeds should be fluctuating above 1.2Ghz in for graphically intensive games in your case.
The i9100 has a optimised Mali 400 GPU which should run GTA better than most Adreno or PowerVR of that gen.
It is also worth noting that the SGS2 is running at a awfully lot lower resolution at 800*480 compared to 1920*1080 which will require a lot more processing power than the S2 to run those games at similar settings.
Both GPU and CPU are important.
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in setting a15 can run in 700mhz up to 1.600ghz, a7 100 - 1.200 but yeah i'm not a master on this thing.. you right resolution affect too in performance..
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
in setting a15 can run in 700mhz up to 1.600ghz, a7 100 - 1.200 but yeah i'm not a master on this thing.. you right resolution affect too in performance..
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Have you tried forcing it to run at 1600Mhz in settings and perhaps lock your GPU clock as well?
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MrAndroid12 said:
Have you tried forcing it to run at 1600Mhz in settings and perhaps lock your GPU clock as well?
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Yeah bro i tried everything, cpu gpu min clock set to max freq.. tried gltools too still no luck.. this not happend in tw 4.3 and cm11.. so i guest this a something bug in tw 4.4.2..
is there a cm 12.1/13 kernel that would let me overclock the GPU and RAM bus as well and not just the CPU ? been skimming through the forum to no avail, currently on teamsek cm 13, it's great but i can't overclock the GPU and bus using it's supplied kernel, i'm even willing to downgrade to cm 12.1 if such a kernel exists for cm 12.1
Never heard about oc the ram in a phone.
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Rosli59564 said:
Never heard about oc the ram in a phone.
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how about the gpu ?
You can try to oc gpu using synapse or similar apps but people say there won't be any difference by oc'ing gpu.
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Rosli59564 said:
You can try to oc gpu using synapse or similar apps but people say there won't be any difference by oc'ing gpu.
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but then the kernel has to support gpu oc, other wise synapse won't work, i would just like to push the frequencies on the gpu to snap dragon 801 level
no more inputs ?
Maan, you are still trying to OC the GPU?? I answered you 2 times already. IT IS OF NO USE! GPU OC will even slow things down due to heating up like hell! RAM connection is the bottleneck in our case, so it won't help at all, except your goal is the kill the phone to buy a new one very quickly...
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Maan, you are still trying to OC the GPU?? I answered you 2 times already. IT IS OF NO USE! GPU OC will even slow things down due to heating up like hell! RAM connection is the bottleneck in our case, so it won't help at all, except your goal is the kill the phone to buy a new one very quickly...
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you know that ram bandwidth is not that far off from the 801 models ...
skyboyextreme said:
you know that ram bandwidth is not that far off from the 801 models ...
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Feel free to continue searching for it and then be disappointed. I warned you ^^
emuandco said:
Feel free to continue searching for it and then be disappointed. I warned you ^^
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ok thank you for the input, goodluck
What are the real frequency of Snapdragon 660 that use in this device...
If any one share screenshot that would be awesome....
Thanks ?
Screenshot Attached check :good::laugh:
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Screenshot Attached check :good::laugh:
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Need to be 2.2ghz
This SoC support up to 2.2 GHz.
But On stock kernel set to 1.96 GHz.
Waitting for custom kernel..
Randyshare said:
This SoC support up to 2.2 GHz.
But On stock kernel set to 1.96 GHz.
Waitting for custom kernel..
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Actually Snapdragon 660 has 2 variants. Asus used clocked 1.95ghz processor not 2.2ghz.
sachinm said:
Actually Snapdragon 660 has 2 variants. Asus used clocked 1.95ghz processor not 2.2ghz.
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CPU
CPU Clock Speed: From 1.95 GHz to 2.2 GHz
CPU Cores: 8x Qualcomm® Kryo™ 260 CPU
CPU Bit Architecture: 64-bit
Overclock
Can we overclock it. if yes then how. please post.
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CPU
CPU Clock Speed: From 1.95 GHz to 2.2 GHz
CPU Cores: 8x Qualcomm® Kryo™ 260 CPU
CPU Bit Architecture: 64-bit
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I have seen some videos and in that video it has been clearly said about snapdragons 2 varients.
sachinm said:
I have seen some videos and in that video it has been clearly said about snapdragons 2 varients.
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They said it in the wrong way, I also saw some videos saying "1.96 GHz variant of sd660". Nope. It's just underclocked. That's all.
kickyvivi said:
They said it in the wrong way, I also saw some videos saying "1.96 GHz variant of sd660". Nope. It's just underclocked. That's all.
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Hmm let's see
Cant we use kernel auditor to overclock it?
harilal1080 said:
Cant we use kernel auditor to overclock it?
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You need an overclocked custom kernel for that. Kernel auditor just tunes the parameters.
kickyvivi said:
You need an overclocked custom kernel for that. Kernel auditor just tunes the parameters.
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Ya right..
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This SoC support up to 2.2 GHz.
But On stock kernel set to 1.96 GHz.
Waitting for custom kernel..
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I hope there are not any heating issues after overclocking it... I dont understand why Asus underclocked it in the first place ...
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I hope there are not any heating issues after overclocking it... I dont understand why Asus underclocked it in the first place ...
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Battery optimization of course. Youll find shortly after that the battery will drain faster if youve reverted back the kernel to 2.2ghz. they are eliminating the use of high frequency performances under low load conditions.
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Battery optimization of course. Youll find shortly after that the battery will drain faster if youve reverted back the kernel to 2.2ghz. they are eliminating the use of high frequency performances under low load conditions.
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I guess that might be it... But with root (kernel adiutor) we'll probably be able to adjust the higher frequencies ... In case someone comes up with a custom kernel... Since the sources are already released..