Where's the ear piece - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

I just realized that there is no traditional earpiece on this phone, unless it is located above the camera. Does it use the same or similar tech as the Xiaomi Mi Mix?

This is why I am trying to wait for an actual real review of the phone before I buy. The quality of the earpiece speaker will determine if I get this phone or not. Calls are hard enough to understand as is, removing the speaker from being a real speaker shooting into your ear will probably make the quality much worse.

It's very hard to see in the few live pictures available, but the larger renders on their homepage show a narrow slit right at the top. Ars Technica also say there is an earpiece in there. So I do not think they are following the Mi Mix in that experiment.

neovalkyr said:
I just realized that there is no traditional earpiece on this phone, unless it is located above the camera. Does it use the same or similar tech as the Xiaomi Mi Mix?
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That small slit at the top has to be the earpiece speaker. The one in the pic of the Essential phone reminds me of the one on the Sony Z5 Premium Dual I have which works great.

Unbox therapy review shows it clearly. Great piece of hardware.
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TP2/EVO speaker swap

I replaced the loud speaker on my evo with an oem i ordered online. It was a very easy fix and everything is good now. As I was putting in the new speaker I started to think of how good my TP2 sounded when I used the loud speaker. It just had a nice crisp sound that I havent been able to get out of my Evo. I searched and found a TP2 replacement and from what I can see, it looks just like it! I am about to order one to try it just wanted to get some feedback on this before i waste money. Why is the sound on tp2 better? Thanks.
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
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Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.
mobius999 said:
Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.
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You are probably right. I gave mine away also and havent looked at one in a while. Thanks.
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Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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Blackcircle said:
...http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
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It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?
bill875 said:
It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?
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I must have missed that. I was only using the site to show the photo. I will find it somewhere else.
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cor4twenty said:
Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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If thats the case i guess that kills the idea then.
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They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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iitreatedii said:
They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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So I guess mobius999 was right then. It is the back cover that makes all the difference.
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Yuppers...different cases produce different soubds
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The sound doesn't look like it travels directly out of the speaker from what I saw when I took my 0003 apart, that plastic gasket makes me thing an attempt to "BOSE" it up...
Touch Pro 2 | TP2 | Rhodium | Speaker
cor4twenty said:
Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.
From what I remember the TP2 had two speakers. Not for stereo but for different ranges...one was lows and the other was highs. You could cover up each speaker while music was playing and hear the difference as you moved your finger from speaker to speaker.
dafunk60 said:
I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.
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This is exactly what I gathered after reading some of peoples input including yours. Even if the speakers are the same, I don't think it will make a difference. The back cover and housing are the key I think. Im going to play around with it this weekend see what I can come up with.
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LG G2 Audio Quality? Hi-Fi Sound?

Hey all, the audio quality from the speakers are supposed to be a selling point of the phone.. not many reviewers speak about it in the video review or even give an example of what it sounds like... so not intuitive and extra frustrating lol. Does anyone have it and can compare it to the HTC one boom sound quality or the Iphone 4s good speaker quality? Now that i have an HTC One, the only way i would go to the LG G2 is if the audio quality from the speakers hold up to the hype LG displayed at their event. replies are appreciated.
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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yeah i watched that yesterday... again left in the dark... i was hoping that it sounded close to the HTC One as it's the best audio i've heard on a phone next to the Iphone 4 and 4s. thanks for the reply!
Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
INCREMENTAL said:
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
stepinmyworld said:
yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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right.. but the reason i'm intrigued is because they're supposed to be really good.. LG had a presentation on the speakers. The Htc one sounds very very good.. it could come out of the box louder but there's a way you can make them louder and still sound crisp. It's second to none i've tried so far. going to something lesser than hurts the mind and deprives the ears when you know there's a better option.
Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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Dchibro said:
Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
emplox said:
The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
stepinmyworld said:
ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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hehe, yup. Definitely a cool feature if you like quality sounding music though.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
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99.9% sure, based on a post I read from someone who already has the phone, as well as the phone's manual, which only draws a line to one grill with the "Speaker" label. No manual is perfect, but I'm fairly confident that a split line would have been drawn to each grill if it had stereo external speakers.
Right side is the only speaker. It sounds better than the GS4, but not as good as the HTC One.
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Look at the Verizon version... It has speakers only on right side.
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No version has 2 speakers, the other grill is the mic.
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The speaker(s) on the lg g2 do sound better than the s3. Can't comment on the s4. The lg g2 is more warm sounding and higher pitched timbre's sound more realistic vs the s3. They are of equal sound volume, however.
It's about as loud as my n4 but actually has more bass, not saying its much, but its more than a n4 or gs3.
i hate the fact that there's a built in compressor/limiter on the speakers, and there's some kind of weird stereo thing going on where it might only be giving ONE channel, rather than both left/right out of the speaker.
i rememebr reading on the international version that there was EQ settings and whatnot somewhere...wonder if we can unlock them somehow? then maybe we can turn that stupid limiter off.
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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mab71 said:
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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Right side is the ONLY speaker, though it 'looks like' 2 in the bottom.

Any way to increase output sound on ZE551KL? (ringtones, notifications, speakerphone)

I am using a ZE551KL while waiting on my ZE551ML to return from RMA. The ZE551KL is a decent phone but it does not measure up to the ZE551ML, but I am sticking with it while Asus takes their merry time on repairing my phone.
Anyway, has anyone had any success in increasing the volume levels of the back speaker? The loudness of the ringtones and notifications leaves much to be desired, at least for me. I have everything maxed and the Audio Wizard is on and set to Smart but I seldom catch my email notification and I carry my phone in my shirt's chest pocket. These are the same tones I used on my ZE551ML so they are recorded/saved loud enough.
Any help would be appreciated as I will passing this phone down to a family member once I get mine back from Asus... whatever year that occurs.
Yeah it's pretty pathetic. When i try to listen to a podcast out of the back speaker while I'm washing my face or doing other things where I can't have headphones in, I can't hear it over the sound of the water running.
I put it on "voice" and turn on "dialouge enhancement" and turn up all frequencies to the max and it makes it maybe a third louder, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. I guess you have to cut some corners with a 200 dollar phone. Skimping on the engineering and materials it would take to make an impressively loud compact speaker seems to be one of the places they tried to save money.
I wondered about buying an after market speaker replacement. And swapping it out.
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this is a software issue with the Asus stock ROM.
Flash the Cyanogenmod ROM, and the sound output from both the external speaker and the headphone port is way, WAY better.
nujaxx said:
I wondered about buying an after market speaker replacement. And swapping it out.
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That might be possible, actually. I had to replace the screen on my ZE551KL and unlike the models with Intel hardware, the speaker unit seems to be connected by what looks like a miniature version of a 3.5 mm headphone plug. Seems like the vibration motor and speaker might be housed in the same rubber unit, though. I did a successful screen replacement, but I wasn't always certain exactly what I was looking at. :silly:
There's ZERO documentation or videos about the internals of the ZE551KL available online, but you can get a good luck at the audio plug leading into the speaker just by removing the 8 to 12 tiny screws that secure the backplate of the phone on. Keep in mind that will void your warranty though.
The speaker itself would be an easy switch. I've replaced some before and it was relatively easy. Can't see the Asus being different. It's nearly identical to the lgg3 in placement, interestingly enough.
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argblah said:
Yeah it's pretty pathetic. When i try to listen to a podcast out of the back speaker while I'm washing my face or doing other things where I can't have headphones in, I can't hear it over the sound of the water running.
I put it on "voice" and turn on "dialouge enhancement" and turn up all frequencies to the max and it makes it maybe a third louder, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. I guess you have to cut some corners with a 200 dollar phone. Skimping on the engineering and materials it would take to make an impressively loud compact speaker seems to be one of the places they tried to save money.
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Seems to have made a big difference. Much appreciated, mate.
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(Video) Pixel XL vs Nexus 6p speaker comparison via Blue Yeti

So, I have a Pixel XL, but since the speaker is the same, I would like to share this here as well....
Here is a comparison of the speakers on both devices. I recorded both phones using my Blue Yeti mic to really capture the differences.
I will be doing a few more vids on about my Pixel on my channel, so check if you are interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg12X1OWG1M
Speaker is one of my concerns
It's cool to have front facing speakers but I think back and wonder just how often I would use them on my Nexus 6. I mean, maybe a few minutes in the evening when I get home from work, but that's about it. At work, I would use the headphone jack, which depends on the DAC within the phone...so the external speakers don't matter at that point.
stevew84 said:
It's cool to have front facing speakers but I think back and wonder just how often I would use them on my Nexus 6. I mean, maybe a few minutes in the evening when I get home from work, but that's about it. At work, I would use the headphone jack, which depends on the DAC within the phone...so the external speakers don't matter at that point.
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Same here. Very very rarely was in a situation where it really mattered with my 6P.
I think the Pixel speaker is just great. Especially coming from the S7E. Loud and great quality
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Pixel speaker is fine. Thanks for doing that video, it was very cool to see. Really, I can't see it as really accurate though. All through your tests the pixel speaker seems to have a better angle to your mic. These little speakers are highly directional. I don't normally watch a video on the phone with the down firing speaker pointed at my ear.
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Pixel speaker is fine. Thanks for doing that video, it was very cool to see. Really, I can't see it as really accurate though. All through your tests the pixel speaker seems to have a better angle to your mic. These little speakers are highly directional. I don't normally watch a video on the phone with the down firing speaker pointed at my ear.
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That's why I did 2 rounds. One with the phones just laying on the table and another with the speakers next to the mic

Stereo speakers?

Just wondering if there was any mention of speakers? Last I heard they will use the ear piece as a speaker but I didn't hear anything like that during the presser.
thegameksk said:
Just wondering if there was any mention of speakers? Last I heard they will use the ear piece as a speaker but I didn't hear anything like that during the presser.
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No Dual speakers! Just a single one.
samteeee said:
No Dual speakers! Just a single one.
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Your wrong: "The biggest change for everyday phone users is the Galaxy S8's switch to stereo speakers, with the phone's earpiece doubling as a second speaker for full-volume playback."
Source Gizmodo (https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/03/the-galaxy-s8-is)
Xephyrex said:
Your wrong: "The biggest change for everyday phone users is the Galaxy S8's switch to stereo speakers, with the phone's earpiece doubling as a second speaker for full-volume playback."
Source Gizmodo (https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/03/the-galaxy-s8-is)
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I hope I am!
I just placed an order for an S8+ and what you're saying is a big plus for me anyways.
Link is down and no mention anywhere
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Link is down and no mention anywhere
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Here is the correct link. Not sure how real it is though considering I can't find it mentioned at any other reputable sources.
Just left the At&t store and was playing around with both 8 and 8+ and sad to report that after playing some music and youtube videos and covering each speaker at a time with my finger the phone doesn't fire audio through both speakers like the iphone
The lack of announcing such a feature and getting my hands on one leads me to believe the phone will just shoot sound out of the bottom. Single speaker wasn't that impressive either.
anjiru0009 said:
Just left the At&t store and was playing around with both 8 and 8+ and sad to report that after playing some music and youtube videos and covering each speaker at a time with my finger the phone doesn't fire audio through both speakers like the iphone
The lack of announcing such a feature and getting my hands on one leads me to believe the phone will just shoot sound out of the bottom. Single speaker wasn't that impressive either.
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Yeah, i went to the store today also. The phone is awesome overall. The sound just flat out sucks compared to my Nexus 6P. I'm torn...
anjiru0009 said:
Just left the At&t store and was playing around with both 8 and 8+ and sad to report that after playing some music and youtube videos and covering each speaker at a time with my finger the phone doesn't fire audio through both speakers like the iphone
The lack of announcing such a feature and getting my hands on one leads me to believe the phone will just shoot sound out of the bottom. Single speaker wasn't that impressive either.
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You'll be able to patch mixer for that, but still, it's bullsh**t. I doubt it will use dedicated amp for earpiece (since this one will play only highs). Ever since htc 10 - idea to play "stereo" with a woofer at the bottom & highs with earpiece is nothing but a marketing fooling. Buy htc m8 & you'll feel what is real smartphone stereo
That's disappointing if they did not include the dual speaker set up. Quite a few articles before the release said it was including the dual speaker (incorporating the earpiece speaker as the 2nd) setup. I am guessing that "mixer" is for rooted phones only, but I will look into it.
Sounded extra weak to me as well. Around half the volume of my OnePlus 3T
I went to the store and tried. No stereo speakers. Just mono.
We should contact with Samsung by mail.
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We should contact with Samsung by mail.
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What would that get us?
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What would that get us?
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Simply it would be confirmed about stereo speakers which we get in s8 or not.
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Simply it would be confirmed about stereo speakers which we get in s8 or not.
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I can confirm ZERO stereo sound came out of either S8 or the S8+ during fullscreen full volume youtube videos. The sound from the single tiny speaker was really weak.
I went to best buy and played with both the S8 and S8+. No stereo speakers. The sound is about the same as the Note 7/S7. Disappointing. But the phones - overall, beautiful. Definitely going to upgrade from my S7. The S8 is smaller physically than the S7edge, but the display is bigger. The S8 was slightly taller than the S7, but overall smaller in the hand. The S8+ was almost exactly the same width as the S7edge, but it was about half an inch taller. I will be going with the s8+, my GF with the S8. Both are wonderful phones - best phones made to date. The curved edges are nicer - closer to what the Note 7 had. The displays beautiful - about like the S7, maybe a tad better. The feel was similar to the S7edge, but again slightly better/more refined. The virtual buttons on the bottom worked well. It's a great phone folks, well worth upgrading. The only thing that I would rather have will be the Note8, and the sketch of that that has been leaked you can tell the Note 8 will be slightly nicer than the S8 just as the Note 7 was slightly nicer than the S7edge. But the Note 8 is at least 6 months away. I can't wait that long. Will be pre-ordering the S8+ for me and the S8 regular for my GF today.

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