Hi all,
I've been looking to upgrade the head unit in my car. I came across Android HUs on eBay.
This seems to be the best one on eBay to my (very limited) knowledge:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Android-7...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Are they any good? I have also seen them on Alibaba/Aliexpress. Are they all the same or are certain ones better? Prices can vary wildly.
If someone could point me in the right direction for the best quality HU I'd be very grateful!
That a px3 new modle with 2gig ram so yes it good but i would go for px5 chip if possible as it an 8 core both have great support on here malesky rom is excellent i personally wouldn't go for intel sofia as there slightly less support but that can change there some and root from what i read but no custom rom i could be wrong this is just my opinion
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The download link is on first page of his page v5 is his latest https://yadi.sk/d/ouDv5oAo3Mh7M5 this his link to v5 it says download limit reached but all you do is just make an account then save to your yandisk acount then you can download
chris4507 said:
That a px3 new modle with 2gig ram so yes it good but i would go for px5 chip if possible as it an 8 core both have great support on here malesky rom is excellent i personally wouldn't go for intel sofia as there slightly less support but that can change there some and root from what i read but no custom rom i could be wrong this is just my opinion
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The download link is on first page of his page v5 is his latest https://yadi.sk/d/ouDv5oAo3Mh7M5 this his link to v5 it says download limit reached but all you do is just make an account then save to your yandisk acount then you can download
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Less support? You should SEE what they're doing on the joying forum.... They've got the whole MCU protocol reverse engineered, and have the things running on the base AOSP (i.e., without all the chinese trash applications installed).
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Less support? You should SEE what they're doing on the joying forum.... They've got the whole MCU protocol reverse engineered, and have the things running on the base AOSP (i.e., without all the chinese trash applications installed).
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Well that changes alot as i said i could be wrong lol you have to admit it is hard navigating throu these forums we could do with having them all cleaned up put into sections px5 px3 intel ..... Like the mobile section if you get me but anyway thanks for the info that may well be the next for me so do you think intel sofia ones better that px5 ?
So this is confusing me even more lol.
I've found the PX-5 unit which @chris4507 mentioned. Seems expensive but I'm willing to pay more for a piece of mind:
https://www.seicane.com/oem-2-din-2...nk-obd2-3g-wifi-backup-camera-canbus-s127000e
Can't find anything that mentions Joying? I'm not sure what that is...
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So this is confusing me even more lol.
I've found the PX-5 unit which @chris4507 mentioned. Seems expensive but I'm willing to pay more for a piece of mind:
https://www.seicane.com/oem-2-din-2...nk-obd2-3g-wifi-backup-camera-canbus-s127000e
Can't find anything that mentions Joying? I'm not sure what that is...
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2GB RAM Octa Core Android 6.0 Car DVD GPS Navigation Multimedia Player Car Stereo for Fiat BRAVO 2007-2012 Radio Headunit
http://s.aliexpress.com/eiArENfu
(from AliExpress Android) theres this for fiat bravo anno there bit more expensive but px3 4 core px5 8 but up to you i dont know much about intel sofia and apparently there is support out there for them i.e custom roms so someone else who know will have to inform you which is better px5 or sofia but can garentee px5 better than px3
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2GB RAM Octa Core Android 6.0 Car DVD GPS Navigation Multimedia Player Car Stereo for Fiat BRAVO 2007-2012 Radio Headunit
http://s.aliexpress.com/eiArENfu
(from AliExpress Android) theres this for fiat bravo anno there bit more expensive but px3 4 core px5 8 but up to you i dont know much about intel sofia and apparently there is support out there for them i.e custom roms so someone else who know will have to inform you which is better px5 or sofia but can garentee px5 better than px3
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I may go for the PX5. It seems to be well supported. The Chinese Android head units do seem a bit of a gamble but have great potential.
I do agree with you that this forum should have more subsections, which would make it easier to navigate/ find the information I'm looking for.
mikem1989 said:
So this is confusing me even more lol.
I've found the PX-5 unit which @chris4507 mentioned. Seems expensive but I'm willing to pay more for a piece of mind:
https://www.seicane.com/oem-2-din-2...nk-obd2-3g-wifi-backup-camera-canbus-s127000e
Can't find anything that mentions Joying? I'm not sure what that is...
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Just to be a prick... http://bfy.tw/EU5z
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Just to be a prick... http://bfy.tw/EU5z
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Cheers mate...
I thought googling joying would yield similar pointless results as when I google PX5 (try it and see what comes up).
Been new to this, I actually thought 'joying' was a CPU name like PX5 is. I was keeping an eye out for joying in the specs.
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Just to be a prick... http://bfy.tw/EU5z
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How did you do that btw?
We all enjoy being a prick. I want to do one for when people ask stupid questions on FB, like "What time does the Asda down the road close?"
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How did you do that btw?
We all enjoy being a prick. I want to do one for when people ask stupid questions on FB, like "What time does the Asda down the road close?"
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Literally search Google for let me Google that for you.
Or visit here.
Which is lmgtfy =
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luciusfox said:
Less support? You should SEE what they're doing on the joying forum.... They've got the whole MCU protocol reverse engineered, and have the things running on the base AOSP (i.e., without all the chinese trash applications installed).
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...disabled on xda, he sure does claim alot. Context is the JY sofia unit, which may or may not use the same protocol as MTCx.
For OP, read before you buy and understand what you are buying; do you need to rush.
These px3/px5 and sofia (except sofia jy) are all common reference units with many resellers and only a few manufacturers. They call work from a common reference design (MTCD being the latest) with a few minor variations - such as amp IC.
Beat you to it @typos1
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...disabled on xda, he sure does claim alot. Context is the JY sofia unit, which may or may not use the same protocol as MTCx.
For OP, read before you buy and understand what you are buying; do you need to rush.
These px3/px5 and sofia (except sofia jy) are all common reference units with many resellers and only a few manufacturers. They call work from a common reference design (MTCD being the latest) with a few minor variations - such as amp IC.
Beat you to it @typos1
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You say that as if you don't believe a word of it, which is a pretty curious position for anyone to take when there is actual SOURCE CODE being provided. So you don't believe it? Maybe you should actually try it out. Check out the source code, build it, install it.
There are actually two main competing "sources". One is, as you mention, MTC, the other is FYT. Joying was initially reselling MTC units being built by Joyous (confusing?), buy they switched to SYU, which was manufacturing units based on the FYT SoM (specifically, FYT5009, and later they switched to FYT6021 which is basically the same, but has a different physical interface). Shortly after, FYT acquired SYU.
One of the big advantages to the FYT/SYU design is that there is a whole lot LESS dependency on the MCU. For example, you can search through the MTC forums and will find reference to a hardware modification to disconnect the i2c lines controlling the BD37xxx sound processor from the MCU and attach it to the SoC. This modification is entirely redundant on the FYT/SYU units, because the BD37xxx is built into the SoM rather than being added on later to the mainboard through the MCU. So right off the bat, it is a heck of a lot easier to manage the FYT units than the MTC units.
The MCU on the FYT designs is responsible for these functions;
1) AMFM radio,
2) GPIO, which basically means the binary car i/o signals; ACC, headlights, reverse, e-brake, amp power (out), antenna power (out). And on top of that, it has two analog inputs for 2-channel steering wheel interfaces.
And guess what? Everything else is directly controllable.
So you're absolutely right that the work being done for the joying units (FYT) is not in any way applicable to the MTC units. You can take that to mean that nobody with an MTC will be able to benefit from it, which means that they remain restricted by the broken software being distributed by the chinese manufacturers, whereas somebody who buys a Joying unit will have the freedom to CHOOSE if they want to use the broken chinese firmware, or try out the much LESS broken open source firmware, and contribute to that firmware if they like.
There are also plans to bring Android 8 to the Joying units.
Now one other consideration for the joying/fyt units; since the job of the MCU is so radically simplified compared to the MTC units, there is also a reasonable prospect of somebody one day deciding to build an open source MCU firmware for them. Its not like these MCU's are super secret chips that nobody can program anything for. The biggest part of that job will just be in writing the driver for working the AMFM radio, and AMFM radios really aren't all that complex. In the past, there have been hacker modifications for the MTC MCU firmware, but very restricted in scope due to the heap of bad code. Basically, the reverse engineering effort was insurmountable. With the MCU for the FYT, the only reverse engineering that is actually needed is restricted to simply tracing the circuit, then it can simply be written from scratch. Remember, its just AMFM radio and GPIO's.
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You say that as if you don't believe a word of it, which is a pretty curious position for anyone to take when there is actual SOURCE CODE being provided. So you don't believe it? Maybe you should actually try it out. Check out the source code, build it, install it.
There are actually two main competing "sources". One is, as you mention, MTC, the other is FYT. Joying was initially reselling MTC units being built by Joyous (confusing?), buy they switched to SYU, which was manufacturing units based on the FYT SoM (specifically, FYT5009, and later they switched to FYT6021 which is basically the same, but has a different physical interface). Shortly after, FYT acquired SYU.
One of the big advantages to the FYT/SYU design is that there is a whole lot LESS dependency on the MCU. For example, you can search through the MTC forums and will find reference to a hardware modification to disconnect the i2c lines controlling the BD37xxx sound processor from the MCU and attach it to the SoC. This modification is entirely redundant on the FYT/SYU units, because the BD37xxx is built into the SoM rather than being added on later to the mainboard through the MCU. So right off the bat, it is a heck of a lot easier to manage the FYT units than the MTC units.
The MCU on the FYT designs is responsible for these functions;
1) AMFM radio,
2) GPIO, which basically means the binary car i/o signals; ACC, headlights, reverse, e-brake, amp power (out), antenna power (out). And on top of that, it has two analog inputs for 2-channel steering wheel interfaces.
And guess what? Everything else is directly controllable.
So you're absolutely right that the work being done for the joying units (FYT) is not in any way applicable to the MTC units. You can take that to mean that nobody with an MTC will be able to benefit from it, which means that they remain restricted by the broken software being distributed by the chinese manufacturers, whereas somebody who buys a Joying unit will have the freedom to CHOOSE if they want to use the broken chinese firmware, or try out the much LESS broken open source firmware, and contribute to that firmware if they like.
There are also plans to bring Android 8 to the Joying units.
Now one other consideration for the joying/fyt units; since the job of the MCU is so radically simplified compared to the MTC units, there is also a reasonable prospect of somebody one day deciding to build an open source MCU firmware for them. Its not like these MCU's are super secret chips that nobody can program anything for. The biggest part of that job will just be in writing the driver for working the AMFM radio, and AMFM radios really aren't all that complex. In the past, there have been hacker modifications for the MTC MCU firmware, but very restricted in scope due to the heap of bad code. Basically, the reverse engineering effort was insurmountable. With the MCU for the FYT, the only reverse engineering that is actually needed is restricted to simply tracing the circuit, then it can simply be written from scratch. Remember, its just AMFM radio and GPIO's.
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Makes sense, thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response.
Was sceptical that anything might come of it.
Basically, what I am getting from this is that I should buy a Joying unit?...
It's a shame, as I do not like the physical appearance of them. The PX5 unit visibly suits my car much better.
mikem1989 said:
Basically, what I am getting from this is that I should buy a Joying unit?...
It's a shame, as I do not like the physical appearance of them. The PX5 unit visibly suits my car much better.
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Its certainly what I would do.
As far as appearance goes, they have an "all black glass rectangle". Pretty hard to beat that visually.
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mikem1989 said:
Basically, what I am getting from this is that I should buy a Joying unit?...
It's a shame, as I do not like the physical appearance of them. The PX5 unit visibly suits my car much better.
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Feel free to correct me if Im wrong - the pros n cons of each platform:
JY (sofia FTY)
Pros:
- Android Bluetooth, better a2dp quality.
- 3G built in option
- True 3 band eq(?)
- Android control of audio (?)
- potentially AOSP on these units within an undefined timeline
Cons:
- same as MTCD in terms of software bugs/overall quality
- RDS AF issue/non-function
- small number of manufacturers
- suspect JY to drop sofia soon and move to PX5
SOM (this might be based on same reference as sofia w/built in BT?)
- Still uses MCU, albeit less functions are performed by MCU
-hardware QA
- rubbish warranty as all other chinese reseller
- rubbish reseller support as all other chinese reseller
MTCD
Pros:
- Wide support and spares.
- high update cycle, availability of mcu and android due to multiple resellers, greater probability of a vendor releasing updates based on the reference release (e.g.currently HA releasing both HA and HCT reference updates)
- Ability to upgrade SOM or replace on failure
- same boot time/sleep as JY sofia
- same features as JY sofia
- greater model/case variations
- ostensibly more devs writing custom apps/control mods
Cons:
-Awful BT implementation (i suspect a port from wince units )
- above results in terrible a2dp quality and until recently bad quality/echo phone handsfree
- same RDS AF issue
- Hardware QA
- rubbish warranty as all other chinese reseller
- rubbish reseller support as all other chinese reseller
Anything else or do I have anything wrong here?
I'm still not decided between PX3 or PX5.
Does anyone know when they are due an update? (better CPU/More RAM)
Is it a yearly thing?
If so, may just wait for the next iteration.
mikem1989 said:
I'm still not decided between PX3 or PX5.
Does anyone know when they are due an update? (better CPU/More RAM)
Is it a yearly thing?
If so, may just wait for the next iteration.
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I've read that to move GPS Navigation and music at the same time comfortably, you should have at least 2 GB and PX5, but the Intel Sofia seems to be the best one of all.
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I've read that to move GPS Navigation and music at the same time comfortably, you should have at least 2 GB and PX5, but the Intel Sofia seems to be the best one of all.
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The Intel Sofia only seems to be available in the joying units from what I see. With the fascia I want for my car it looks like I can choose between PX3 or PX5 only.
Think I'll go PX5. Unless there are any updated models on the horizon.
Good night, I want to know if the radio Eonon is a good choice. It has DSP, android 10, IPS screen, "9 and TDA7851L Power Amplifier. But what concerns me is the processor being the MTK 8227l, A7 quadcore 1.2ghz and having 2gb of RAM. I will use google maps, spotify and youtube. With a promotion the radio would cost € 315. On the other hand, I have Joying with everything Eonon has but with an Intel octa-core processor and 4GB of RAM, but the worst thing is that it has Android 8.1 and the screen is not IPS and is more expensive. What do you advise me?
Thanks.
I'm looking into the same question, at the moment the Eonon GA9353 is $250 with free cameras, and the Joying is $100 more. I don't see the benefit of the octa-core being sufficient for me (music + GPS). Did you find more info to help decide?
I've been delving deeper into these radios in the last few days and reading everything about these radios here at XDA and I see that Eonon radios really have very outdated components (processor, like the Cortex a7), and I don't know how they can handle Android 10.
Then we have the Dasaita max 6 which looks very good, but it is very expensive, and then you have the atoto, which will update its radios now in May for the Intel processor equal to that of Joying.
The Joying radio is the best price / quality choice, despite having some bugs and android 8.1, it will probably be my choice.
The Radio is this JY-VO131N4GSN.
So, my question will this device be upgraded to android 9? Thanks
Eonon
More reading, DSP seems to worth the investment. The Eonon Is Android 8.1 faked to display Android 10.
tiagomatos said:
So, my question will this device be upgraded to android 9? Thanks
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I don't think so.
But why do you want Android 9 or 10? There is absolutely no added benefit from 9 or 10 on these head units.
You should ask: How long will this unit be supported? And how long will security fiexes be supported? That's a more important question.
And theoretically, Android 9 and 10 will be longer supported but hardly any of these resellers do that. As soon as they have a new hardware config, they stop supporting the old one.
Atoto is the only exception, but they are still on Android 6. But support is still continuing over most models.
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I don't think so.
But why do you want Android 9 or 10? There is absolutely no added benefit from 9 or 10 on these head units.
You should ask: How long will this unit be supported? And how long will security fiexes be supported? That's a more important question.
And theoretically, Android 9 and 10 will be longer supported but hardly any of these resellers do that. As soon as they have a new hardware config, they stop supporting the old one.
Atoto is the only exception, but they are still on Android 6. But support is still continuing over most models.
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Yes, you are right.
My concern is that Android will be out of date and the applications will no longer support it, but also the support itself will not provide bug fixes and security bugs fixes, but the OS is also not too old. So I will either go for the 9 "or 10" inch joying, both suitable for the Golf 6. I will also buy a subwoffer the JBL basspro hub, it is at an excellent price on ebay. Thanks, this forum helped me a lot, however when the radio arrives I will post photos and comment on the radio, so I can help other people who need it to choose.
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I'm looking for a good Android head unit with really good specs (for e.g. QLED at least HD, best would he FullHD and a good chipset with a good amp, things like toslink and a fan to cool the unit would he nice) for a BMW pre facelift E46 - also for a MB CL203 pre facelift....
I'm just really confused by how many chipsets there are and which hardware specs are to look out for ..
I also don't know what Bluetooth codecs are used, you know, I also want to have good music without latency and with good quality - obviously we all want this
Maybe someone could help me out and tell me some things about all those head unit manufacturers like Dasaita, Junsun, Skyshadow and so on - I just don't know where start to filter the bad from the good units, I know one thing or two about android, but never bought an Android head unit before - now is the day
For example:. I found something like this here - BT6 or TT6 here on AliExpress (seems nice to me)
Is this overkill? : The 2k model on AliExpress which I found
Is it any good? For what should I look out for? Maybe there are some threads here on xda which are good to read to get some Infos, maybe someone could provide me those?
Also, I don't know anything about the specs of MTCD, MTCB and FYT, I don't have any Infos about them - but there are sperate xda developer forums for them...
Thank you very much in advance
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Thank you very much, you just confirmed my thoughts, that this chipset would be the best of all those out there for Head Units - but I have also seen a Qualcomm Version, but have never compared them.
You see, I still don't know what FYT means and I just vaguely know, that MCU Version is the base system on which a head unit is based on?
I am not asking for full service, I'm just looking for example for tutorials - I would to write some tutorials if I gain more and more knowledge, would help other newbies like me. Also it could be just about that someone else is buying or bought a head unit for those cars I've mentioned - sometimes it just happens by chance...
But thank you anyway, you gave me the right Infos and tips for what I have to look for.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
I think that I have to write with some of those sellers to have a selection from which I could chose.
Are there some amplifiers, which should be avoided or which are good and recommended? Are there any details for which I should look out, which could be a good trap for newbies like me?
Where I can get MCU Version information? (I know, you can look it up in the 'about' screen on Android, but I'm still not quite sure what it represents) so basically if someone has a for e.g. Dasaita and someone else have a Skyshadow, they could use the same software, if MCU Version would he the same?
Thank you very much
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
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Not by liking must choose what your car tells you, choose what is compatible with car and most up to date device
Start by searching for units compatible with your car.Then narrow the selection by CPU (8 core), RAM (6 or 8 GB) and screen.
When you are down to a handful, look at seller reputation and number of units sold for your config.
Also, check shipping terms and always ask if they ship from regional warehouse.
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
Do you know, if there is a double DIN unit which has one knob for the volume? The only one I've found has only "High definition" resolution, there is no option for a 2k display - it's this one: Head unit with fake android 11 because of false API but looks nice and has some features - especially the BT6 and TT6 models...
I would love to have a BT6 with a 2k display, but I think that this only a dream. There just simply none available with a volume knob and a 2k display, otherwise it would be just perfect.
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
Anton TNT said:
If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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I bought this device ... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.59.21ef1802Q3dkF7
SPECS: read and enjoy...
UNIT AINAVI "H5"
Preset Station: FM
Built-in DVD Player: NO
Built-in CD player: NO
Chipset: Qualcomm 8953
Processor Speed: 1.8GHz
Processor Type: QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON ARM CORTEX 8 core UNISOC
Is touch screen: YES
Built-in Screen: YES
TF/Micro SD Slot: 2
Din: Double Din
RAM: 2G-6G
Special Feature: Wifi Function,Support Steering Wheel Control online,Support 3G Network,Support 4G Network,Support Can-Bus, Updating online
Operating System: Android 10.0 OS
Out Power: 4*50w
Voltage: 12V
Material Type: Glass
Item Weight: 1.8kg
Item Size: 9 Inch
Max External Memory: 128G
ROM: 128G
Special Features: Built-in GPS,MP3 Players,Voice Control,DSP,Carplay,Android Auto,Reversing Input,Split Screen
Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG
OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese (Traditional),Albanian,Arabic,Azeri,Irish,Estonian,Belarusian,Bulgarian,Icelandic,Polish,PERSIAN,Boolean text (Dutch South Africa),Danish,German,Russian,French,Filipino,Finnish,Georgian,Haitian Creole,Korean,Dutch,Galicia,Catalan,Czech,Croatian,Latin,Latvian,Lithuanian,Romanian,Maltese,Malay,Macedonian,Norwegian,Portuguese,Japanese,Swedish,Serbian,Slovak,Slovenian,Swahili,Thai,Turkish,Welsh,Ukrainian,Hebrew,Greek,Spain's Basque,Spanish,Hungarian,Armenian,Italian,Yiddish,Hindi,Urdu India,Indonesia,English,Vietnamese
Resolution: 1280*720
Display Size: 9"
Brand Name: Ainavi
Origin: Mainland China
For Vehicle Brands/Model: PEUGEOT
Peugeot Model: 308
308-Year: 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014
Certification: CE
Carplay: Built-in wired&wireless Carplay
Android Auto: Support Android Auto
Radio: Support FM/AM/RDS
Network: Support 3G/4G Network
Radio IC: SI47925
Amplifier IC: ST7850
GPS: Built-in GPS
Special Feature 1: Bluetooth
Special Feature 2: Built-In Speaker/Microphone
Special Feature 3: Support Steering Wheel Control
BIG BIG + is UNIT SUPPORT by seller and technicians
del_piero3 said:
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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Hi there,
thanks for all the suggestion, indeed a Qualcomm processor if available is a huge plus compare to anything else. I will check out what's available and will report what i found. Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
Edit : Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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I found this one, looks really great with volume knobs as you requested @Ubuntu_Man , however the plastic looks a bit cheap, but maybe it is an impression :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001774883334.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000017521648402%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21409.19%21245.51%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000017521648402%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=avv30AqHJaPb
del_piero3 said:
Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
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Yes , store is called AINAVI and sellers are always helpfull. + for them
del_piero3 said:
Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
Anton TNT said:
Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
Anton TNT said:
First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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Compatibility about what? The function in the head-unit or the physical fit ? The physical fit, on E46 there was no difference from the first to the second phase, all unit that are made for E46 should go in the head-unit location without any issue. I remember the first generation, the units were longer and sometimes it was tricky to get all the rear cables sorted correctly so the unit would enter the dashboard correctly, but now i see that the units are shorter so it shouldn't be an issue. About the software, i hope with the canbus that all the functions are decoded correctly form the bus, unless there is some bugs. And last but not least, about the OEM installation in place, this is up to us to check, mine have the OEM navigation with the BM54 in the trunk, so i know that i have to take the long cable to connect the unit in the one in the trunk, and that is some work to be done Unless i am missing something ?
the only one that worries me a bit is the screen resolution. I am wondering if such big screen with 1280x720 is enough ?