Hi everyone,
I'm looking to buy my first HU and after reading the forums for a while I'm undecided what to pick.
It looks like the Intel Sofia platform is the current recommendation - it comes with 2gb, the CPU is powerful enough and it has some support for fastboot. However from what I can tell there's no custom ROM for it (Malaysk is only for RK3x88 series) which is kinda of a big minus for me (since one is at the mercy of the seller).
Am I missing something? From what I can tell the RK3188 and Sofia CPUs are more or less identical in terms of performance, the RAM being the big difference.
I'm looking for stability (not going to play games or videos on the HU - I just want waze and probably the radio) first so a slower, older CPU with a solid community and ROM behind it fits my list.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
selbyog said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to buy my first HU and after reading the forums for a while I'm undecided what to pick.
It looks like the Intel Sofia platform is the current recommendation - it comes with 2gb, the CPU is powerful enough and it has some support for fastboot. However from what I can tell there's no custom ROM for it (Malaysk is only for RK3x88 series) which is kinda of a big minus for me (since one is at the mercy of the seller).
Am I missing something? From what I can tell the RK3188 and Sofia CPUs are more or less identical in terms of performance, the RAM being the big difference.
I'm looking for stability (not going to play games or videos on the HU - I just want waze and probably the radio) first so a slower, older CPU with a solid community and ROM behind it fits my list.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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Theres no "current recommendation", its all down to personal opinion. The Sofia units are ok (both MTCD and "009" versions), so are the Rockchip RK3188 MTCB/C/D ones which bring the benefit of custom ROMs. The Rockchip ones dont come with 2GB as standard and (in Lollipop guise at least) they need it, but that can be added relatively easily. However, the latest MTCD versions and Klyde's versions (probably MTCC but no ones sure at the mo) use the octacore Rockchip PX5 (RK3368) so should offer better performance than the Sofia or RK3188 units.
Your only option for custom ROMs at least at the moment are the RK3188 units. Another benefit of the MTCB/C type is that theres a particularly good audio mod that gives control of the audio chip to Android, although youd have to be able to solder to do it.
typos1 said:
Theres no "current recommendation", its all down to personal opinion. The Sofia units are ok (both MTCD and "009" versions), so are the Rockchip RK3188 MTCB/C/D ones which bring the benefit of custom ROMs. The Rockchip ones dont come with 2GB as standard and (in Lollipop guise at least) they need it, but that can be added relatively easily. However, the latest MTCD versions and Klyde's versions (probably MTCC but no ones sure at the mo) use the octacore Rockchip PX5 (RK3368) so should offer better performance than the Sofia or RK3188 units.
Your only option for custom ROMs at least at the moment are the RK3188 units. Another benefit of the MTCB/C type is that theres a particularly good audio mod that gives control of the audio chip to Android, although youd have to be able to solder to do it.
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Thanks for the reply. Soldering extra RAM is not something I can do easy - I lack expertise and getting hardware in EU tends to be expensive and slow; I'd much rather pay extra (and wait) to have it built in the factory.
I'll keep an eye on the RK3368 boards.
Any idea whether these would be ROM friendly ?
selbyog said:
Thanks for the reply. Soldering extra RAM is not something I can do easy - I lack expertise and getting hardware in EU tends to be expensive and slow; I'd much rather pay extra (and wait) to have it built in the factory.
I'll keep an eye on the RK3368 boards.
Any idea whether these would be ROM friendly ?
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I m in the EU and I got my RAM for about $30 in the group buy, theres a thread open at the mo, they took 3 days to arrive. It would just be a case of finding somewhere to do the soldering for you, thats what most people have done.
If the Klyde PX5 units are MTCC it should mean that anyone with an MTCB or MTCC unit currently could simply change their SoM for a PX5 one, we just dont know yet (the original MTCB units were dual core RK3066 and a lot of people just upgraded their SoMs to the quadcore RK3188). Well, we dont know until someone buys one - theyve been on sale since November, but if they are MTCC an upgrade to a PX5 would be possible if you bought an MTCB or C RK3188 and upgraded the RAM, then youd be able to sell your RK3188 SoM with 2GB RAM as it would be quite sort after due to the extra RAM . . IF theyre MTCC that is.
All that may be a bit long winded for you but at least youd have access to a custom ROM as you wanted with the possibility of upgrading in the future to a version that is more likely to have support from current MTCB custom ROM makers (I m assuming theyd eventually upgrade to PX5 units themselves and start making ROMs for them).
Or you could just buy a Klyde PX5 unit now and have the most up to date unit, but with no custom ROMs support yet :
http://www.szklyde.com/bmw-android-car-dvd-player/38112008.html
If I sound MTCB/C biased, well I have 2 so I am. But from what I ve read the Sofia MTCD and 009 units are good too and at least theoretically easier to make a custom ROM for because Intel release their source code, unlike Rockchip. But no custom ROMs exist as yet.
Thanks again!
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I m in the EU
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Cool - where did you buy your units? Any with warehouses in EU?
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If I sound MTCB/C biased, well I have 2 so I am. But from what I ve read the Sofia MTCD and 009 units are good too and at least theoretically easier to make a custom ROM for because Intel release their source code, unlike Rockchip. But no custom ROMs exist as yet.
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Klyde's unit indicates support for Android 6.0.1 while Intel's on 5.x and most MTCB on 4.x. Reading the forums I thought a MTCD board is required for android 5.x but it looks like that might not be the case - I guess in the end it depends on the manufacturer.
Btw, I read that one nice thing about Sofia is the fastboot feature which is not present on RK31xx/30xx units - not sure whether this is SoM or MCU specific. Do you have this feature on your units?
I like your idea about using an existing, tried-out platform (RK3188) with upgraded ram and custom ROM - it was my initial plan but the whole prospect was off putting.
I'll ask around to see how complicated/expensive would be to do the soldering.
Cheers,
selbyog said:
Thanks again!
Cool - where did you buy your units? Any with warehouses in EU?
Klyde's unit indicates support for Android 6.0.1 while Intel's on 5.x and most MTCB on 4.x. Reading the forums I thought a MTCD board is required for android 5.x but it looks like that might not be the case - I guess in the end it depends on the manufacturer.
Btw, I read that one nice thing about Sofia is the fastboot feature which is not present on RK31xx/30xx units - not sure whether this is SoM or MCU specific. Do you have this feature on your units?
I like your idea about using an existing, tried-out platform (RK3188) with upgraded ram and custom ROM - it was my initial plan but the whole prospect was off putting.
I'll ask around to see how complicated/expensive would be to do the soldering.
Cheers,
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Lollipop has been out for MTCB/C for about a year, this applies to ALL manufacturers and all RK3188 units, Klyde are the only ones who do Lollipop ROMs but the ROM can be used on ANY MTCB/C RK3188 device because they all use the same SoM. Some people find it laggy (I dont) but the 2GB RAM sorts that. Boot time is 20 - 30 seconds depending on what ROM you use, but there is no specific fast boot feature.
I did a group buy as ordering just 2 modules is expensive, but read the second RAM group buy thread in the MTCB hardware mod section and pm the guy who did it I think there may be some left.
Hi Guys, quick question, I've searched around the forums and can't find anything about my unit the reseller is Sinosmart it's a SoFia based unit 2GB Ram 32GB Rom non 3G for a Chev/Holden Cruze it's running Android 6.01, the MCU 2017-06-09 RUL_(NOR)_90_C9_685x_5009_CAN(All)_Newlap_Amp, I understand that it may be a non branded joying type unit. The only issue I'm having with it is I can't control screen brightness at all the sliders do nothing and the night/illumination function does nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Just an update I found this at the 4pda forum RUL = Sinosmart so they make their own variant of the MCU software, is this correct? In regards to rooting the unit, is it safe to use the non joying boot image on these forums, has anyone else had experience with this brand? Thanks in advance
Joying units are manufactured by an outfit called "Carsql" aka "SYU", which is now owned by the manufacturer of the SoM, "FYT". They (SYU/SQL/FYT) have a lot of customers that they manufacture radios for, INCLUDING Joying, and likely yours as well. Usually, the MCU is tagged with the customer ID.
This is much the same as MTC, which also has a lot of customers that they make radios for, which *used to* include Joying, who I guess got a better deal and/or better product from SYU.
I can tell you that from a hardware engineering point of view, the SQL/FYT units are a lot better than the MTC units.
Software wise, however, its a wash. They all suck.
So what your saying is in my case Sinosmart is a customer of SQL/FYT if this is the case and a lot of the units are made by the one company for these re seller groups, how come the mcu's aren't cross compatible I understand rom's can be if they are based on the same SOC in my case the intel Sofia, why is there a separation between joying and all the other intel based units, does joying use an mcu unique to their units? also wouldn't the joying/other brand sofia based unit rom's be compatible with each other, or is it not that simple due to slight variations in gps chips, radio chips, ect....hopefully that makes sense! Thanks for your reply
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So what your saying is in my case Sinosmart is a customer of SQL/FYT if this is the case and a lot of the units are made by the one company for these re seller groups, how come the mcu's aren't cross compatible I understand rom's can be if they are based on the same SOC in my case the intel Sofia, why is there a separation between joying and all the other intel based units, does joying use an mcu unique to their units? also wouldn't the joying/other brand sofia based unit rom's be compatible with each other, or is it not that simple due to slight variations in gps chips, radio chips, ect....hopefully that makes sense! Thanks for your reply
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Almost all compatibility problems are *intentional*. They just put a string into the MCU version field that the OS uses to decide if it wants to play nice or dirty.
More than likely, those units are FULLY compatible.
No ones reverse engineered the mcu flash files? I read a while back someone had done or had partial success with the older units on then 4pda site
Hi folks,
I drive (and always will drive \o/) a Mazda MX-5 (NB currently, but that might change over the years) and need some advice on the HeadUnit to choose. So here is what I need:
Good sound-quality
Reliable / good built-quality
Fast bootup (always on, just sleeping maybe?)
WLAN
Good community around it
GPS available / built-in
Runs OSMAnd (preferred offline nav-software for android)
Root-able / different (community) firmware available
2GB RAM (or more?)
Front-USB
Physical button / knob / wheel for volume
Not too horrible radio app (RDS station name and radio-text?)
Good support from manufacturer
3G/4G dongle available or built-in SIM-card-slot
The further to the top, the more important to me... kinda. But for example if a suggested device comes with the best sound possible, I could live without a hardware knob for volume and without a community firmware available. So the list is more or less a nice-to-have-list.
Advice?
I guess I'd prefer ARM, but I am not fixed there. Differences to Intel? At least for all other android devices I own, there is just one Intel device (rest ARM) and it is the one with the worst (non-existent) community support. Apart from the list and the CPU stuff, I guess that's it.
regards
UnsettledSoul
UnsettledSoul said:
Hi folks,
I drive (and always will drive \o/) a Mazda MX-5 (NB currently, but that might change over the years) and need some advice on the HeadUnit to choose. So here is what I need:
Good sound-quality
Reliable / good built-quality
Fast bootup (always on, just sleeping maybe?)
WLAN
Good community around it
GPS available / built-in
Runs OSMAnd (preferred offline nav-software for android)
Root-able / different (community) firmware available
2GB RAM (or more?)
Front-USB
Physical button / knob / wheel for volume
Not too horrible radio app (RDS station name and radio-text?)
Good support from manufacturer
3G/4G dongle available or built-in SIM-card-slot
The further to the top, the more important to me... kinda. But for example if a suggested device comes with the best sound possible, I could live without a hardware knob for volume and without a community firmware available. So the list is more or less a nice-to-have-list.
Advice?
I guess I'd prefer ARM, but I am not fixed there. Differences to Intel? At least for all other android devices I own, there is just one Intel device (rest ARM) and it is the one with the worst (non-existent) community support. Apart from the list and the CPU stuff, I guess that's it.
regards
UnsettledSoul
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Would I be correct in thinking you're not after an expensive branded units and one of the chinese android units? If so...
Of the various units discussed here and manufacturer options, what have you considered? The intel units appear to be phased out so that might further limit your options.
Of what is available, there are various allwinner units, but these are little known. If you want community discussion, mods and knowledge, that leaves MTCD/E units, for which there are Px3 2GB and PX5 2 & 4GB RAM SOMs with almost identical reference hardware - some subtle differences such as tuner, buton/buttonless options, AMP IC, display board, but this often comes down to a mix and match from the factory.
Also note, the latest JY PX5 MTCD units appear to vary in terms of SOM manufacturer and MCU code, this might furher reduce what is supported/known here.
TLDR - would be useful to post what you may have considered. Look around for an MTCD model that suits your vehicle and then read/compare in the MTCD forums. If you want branded look around.
marchnz said:
Would I be correct in thinking you're not after an expensive branded units and one of the chinese android units? If so...
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You are correct, Joying, Eonon, Pumpkin, whatever is what I have my eyes slotted at at the moment
Of the various units discussed here and manufacturer options, what have you considered? The intel units appear to be phased out so that might further limit your options.
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I have considered basically almost every device discussed here. At least at a glimpse it LOOKS like Joying is the most discussed brand here, does that mean the overall quality is/was that good that many folks choose that manufacturer or was prize the selling point #1? I did not add a prizetag to my post intentionally and preferred to note the quality I wanted only.
Of what is available, there are various allwinner units, but these are little known.
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So... not interested.
If you want community discussion, mods and knowledge, that leaves MTCD/E units, for which there are Px3 2GB and PX5 2 & 4GB RAM SOMs with almost identical reference hardware - some subtle differences such as tuner, buton/buttonless options, AMP IC, display board, but this often comes down to a mix and match from the factory.
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Mix and match in hardware? So varying sound quality and overall built-quality? But basically, yeah... MTCD/E is what I think I might want.
Also note, the latest JY PX5 MTCD units appear to vary in terms of SOM manufacturer and MCU code, this might furher reduce what is supported/known here.
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Generally I prefer older hardware anyway, so...
TLDR - would be useful to post what you may have considered. Look around for an MTCD model that suits your vehicle and then read/compare in the MTCD forums. If you want branded look around.
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I don't care for a specific brand at all. And that's kind of the problem because there are so many different devices and I just want the best in regards to my list. I live in germany, which might limit the list of devices I can get even more.
I did try to find a device on eBay / Amazon and see if there is any discussion about it here. But I guess as the eBay / Amazon seller never tells the HW revision, basically no idea which device is which.
So what about...
Joying JY-UM124N2 (ARM)
or
Joying JY-UL124N2 (Intel)
or
Pumpkin AS0272B (no CPU arch mentioned)
... at least those devices are available here via eBay / Amazon and I guess directly from the manufacturer.
Suggestions?
Hi.
I have a VW Scirocco 2010 with Dynaudio system, until now I have a Joying Intel Sofia unit, but since 2 weeks ago the unit display start to dissapear sometimes and right now if more often that the display doesn´t work.
I'm thinking in change the unit and I have seen the new Joying 4Gb and a Pumpking unit. Both manufacters said that is compatible with dynaudio system.
I would like to know which one do you think is bette and with better audio quality, because when I changed my factory radio (RCD510) to Joying intel sofia, the sound quality was much worse than the factory sound.
Joying 4/64Gb Intel SC9853i Android 8.1.0
Pumpkin 4/32 Octacore Android 9.0
Thank you very much
jose.marcos.3720 said:
Hi.
I have a VW Scirocco 2010 with Dynaudio system, until now I have a Joying Intel Sofia unit, but since 2 weeks ago the unit display start to dissapear sometimes and right now if more often that the display doesn´t work.
I'm thinking in change the unit and I have seen the new Joying 4Gb and a Pumpking unit. Both manufacters said that is compatible with dynaudio system.
I would like to know which one do you think is bette and with better audio quality, because when I changed my factory radio (RCD510) to Joying intel sofia, the sound quality was much worse than the factory sound.
Joying 4/64Gb Intel SC9853i Android 8.1.0
Pumpkin 4/32 Octacore Android 9.0
Thank you very much
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Nobody can help me?
The OEM head unit has an in-build equalizer curve (to match the Dynaudio system), the android radio has a "flat" output. That is the reason for the bad or different soud quality.
I had my Skoda Columbus Navigation device coded via VCDS to "flat" (because I have an external DSP installed) and there is no change in sound quality after my recent change to an Joying Intel device.
Any up on this topic please. We need Android 9 firmware like Malay for Joying Intel SC9853i. The reason for an aftermarket radio is for us to be able to customize as needed, but it seems that Joying firmware is too boring and a lot of bugs. Don't quote me wrong, I love Joying radio, but they need to do more with firmware updates.
Lovin' my Pumpkin : https://www.autopumpkin.com/product...t-access-function?_pos=1&_sid=ca287b8cb&_ss=r
123olasoft said:
Any up on this topic please. We need Android 9 firmware like Malay for Joying Intel SC9853i. The reason for an aftermarket radio is for us to be able to customize as needed, but it seems that Joying firmware is too boring and a lot of bugs. Don't quote me wrong, I love Joying radio, but they need to do more with firmware updates.
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Come on. It is the same for all brands. Joying is actually relatively active with their firmware upgrades compared to the rest. Since introduction in Feb 2019 we already had 6-7 firmware upgrades.
The fact that Malaysk and Hal9K are even more active with their custom roms, doesn't mean Joying is not doing a (relatively) good job.
And as such I fully agree: there are bugs in the FYT software (not Joying! Joying is like many others brands just a reseller of FYT hardware/software), and it takes way too long to solve them. But at least you sometimes get a firmware upgrade.
Malaysk/Hal9k give you more options to tweak your mtc-b/c/d/e unit, but qualitatively speaking: the units are not better or worse. All Chinese units are qualitatively worse compared to the real A-brands.
Also: How often do you get an upgrade on your phone if it is not an A-brand and a top-model of that A-brand?
You pay 300 euros/dollars for a unit, and maybe 500-1000 euros/dollars for a phone, which proabably also sell in much higher quantities increasing margin. What do you expect?
Hi surfer63,
I appreciate your comment. I just want you to know that you don't need to sound defensive here. If you read my comment good I said I love Joying radio, which is my opinion. How much we spend on radio is not what matters.
NVIDIA Shield 2015 still receives update till now just for an example. I guess you know how much it cost to get one.
I love Joying radio and will recommend it to anyone that is in the market for an Android radio.
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Hi surfer63,
I appreciate your comment. I just want you to know that you don't need to sound defensive here. If you read my comment good I said I love Joying radio, which is my opinion. How much we spend on radio is not what matters.
NVIDIA Shield 2015 still receives update till now just for an example. I guess you know how much it cost to get one.
I love Joying radio and will recommend it to anyone that is in the market for an Android radio.
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I dont think you understood his post, there's nothing defensive in it. You also missed where surfer explains that Joying are a reseller of FYT, they're just a reseller of multiple manufacturers.
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I dont think you understood his post, there's nothing defensive in it. You also missed where surfer explains that Joying are a reseller of FYT, they're just a reseller of multiple manufacturers.
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Both of you should accept my apology.
123olasoft said:
Both of you should accept my apology.
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Not necessary at all. We all reflect our own opinions here and sometimes they are not the same, sometimes they directly clash. Sometimes we simply misunderstand each other. Most of us are not native speakers (like myself) and that sometimes can also lead to discussions going into the wrong direction.
As long as everyone shows respect to one another, that is never a problem (to me). It only sometimes takes a few more posts to get it clear.
Hey there
I'm looking for a good Android head unit with really good specs (for e.g. QLED at least HD, best would he FullHD and a good chipset with a good amp, things like toslink and a fan to cool the unit would he nice) for a BMW pre facelift E46 - also for a MB CL203 pre facelift....
I'm just really confused by how many chipsets there are and which hardware specs are to look out for ..
I also don't know what Bluetooth codecs are used, you know, I also want to have good music without latency and with good quality - obviously we all want this
Maybe someone could help me out and tell me some things about all those head unit manufacturers like Dasaita, Junsun, Skyshadow and so on - I just don't know where start to filter the bad from the good units, I know one thing or two about android, but never bought an Android head unit before - now is the day
For example:. I found something like this here - BT6 or TT6 here on AliExpress (seems nice to me)
Is this overkill? : The 2k model on AliExpress which I found
Is it any good? For what should I look out for? Maybe there are some threads here on xda which are good to read to get some Infos, maybe someone could provide me those?
Also, I don't know anything about the specs of MTCD, MTCB and FYT, I don't have any Infos about them - but there are sperate xda developer forums for them...
Thank you very much in advance
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Thank you very much, you just confirmed my thoughts, that this chipset would be the best of all those out there for Head Units - but I have also seen a Qualcomm Version, but have never compared them.
You see, I still don't know what FYT means and I just vaguely know, that MCU Version is the base system on which a head unit is based on?
I am not asking for full service, I'm just looking for example for tutorials - I would to write some tutorials if I gain more and more knowledge, would help other newbies like me. Also it could be just about that someone else is buying or bought a head unit for those cars I've mentioned - sometimes it just happens by chance...
But thank you anyway, you gave me the right Infos and tips for what I have to look for.
Anton TNT said:
Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
I think that I have to write with some of those sellers to have a selection from which I could chose.
Are there some amplifiers, which should be avoided or which are good and recommended? Are there any details for which I should look out, which could be a good trap for newbies like me?
Where I can get MCU Version information? (I know, you can look it up in the 'about' screen on Android, but I'm still not quite sure what it represents) so basically if someone has a for e.g. Dasaita and someone else have a Skyshadow, they could use the same software, if MCU Version would he the same?
Thank you very much
Ubuntu_Man said:
So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
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Not by liking must choose what your car tells you, choose what is compatible with car and most up to date device
Start by searching for units compatible with your car.Then narrow the selection by CPU (8 core), RAM (6 or 8 GB) and screen.
When you are down to a handful, look at seller reputation and number of units sold for your config.
Also, check shipping terms and always ask if they ship from regional warehouse.
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
Do you know, if there is a double DIN unit which has one knob for the volume? The only one I've found has only "High definition" resolution, there is no option for a 2k display - it's this one: Head unit with fake android 11 because of false API but looks nice and has some features - especially the BT6 and TT6 models...
I would love to have a BT6 with a 2k display, but I think that this only a dream. There just simply none available with a volume knob and a 2k display, otherwise it would be just perfect.
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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I bought this device ... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.59.21ef1802Q3dkF7
SPECS: read and enjoy...
UNIT AINAVI "H5"
Preset Station: FM
Built-in DVD Player: NO
Built-in CD player: NO
Chipset: Qualcomm 8953
Processor Speed: 1.8GHz
Processor Type: QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON ARM CORTEX 8 core UNISOC
Is touch screen: YES
Built-in Screen: YES
TF/Micro SD Slot: 2
Din: Double Din
RAM: 2G-6G
Special Feature: Wifi Function,Support Steering Wheel Control online,Support 3G Network,Support 4G Network,Support Can-Bus, Updating online
Operating System: Android 10.0 OS
Out Power: 4*50w
Voltage: 12V
Material Type: Glass
Item Weight: 1.8kg
Item Size: 9 Inch
Max External Memory: 128G
ROM: 128G
Special Features: Built-in GPS,MP3 Players,Voice Control,DSP,Carplay,Android Auto,Reversing Input,Split Screen
Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG
OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese (Traditional),Albanian,Arabic,Azeri,Irish,Estonian,Belarusian,Bulgarian,Icelandic,Polish,PERSIAN,Boolean text (Dutch South Africa),Danish,German,Russian,French,Filipino,Finnish,Georgian,Haitian Creole,Korean,Dutch,Galicia,Catalan,Czech,Croatian,Latin,Latvian,Lithuanian,Romanian,Maltese,Malay,Macedonian,Norwegian,Portuguese,Japanese,Swedish,Serbian,Slovak,Slovenian,Swahili,Thai,Turkish,Welsh,Ukrainian,Hebrew,Greek,Spain's Basque,Spanish,Hungarian,Armenian,Italian,Yiddish,Hindi,Urdu India,Indonesia,English,Vietnamese
Resolution: 1280*720
Display Size: 9"
Brand Name: Ainavi
Origin: Mainland China
For Vehicle Brands/Model: PEUGEOT
Peugeot Model: 308
308-Year: 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014
Certification: CE
Carplay: Built-in wired&wireless Carplay
Android Auto: Support Android Auto
Radio: Support FM/AM/RDS
Network: Support 3G/4G Network
Radio IC: SI47925
Amplifier IC: ST7850
GPS: Built-in GPS
Special Feature 1: Bluetooth
Special Feature 2: Built-In Speaker/Microphone
Special Feature 3: Support Steering Wheel Control
BIG BIG + is UNIT SUPPORT by seller and technicians
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Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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Hi there,
thanks for all the suggestion, indeed a Qualcomm processor if available is a huge plus compare to anything else. I will check out what's available and will report what i found. Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
Edit : Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
Edit2 :
I found this one, looks really great with volume knobs as you requested @Ubuntu_Man , however the plastic looks a bit cheap, but maybe it is an impression :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001774883334.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000017521648402%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21409.19%21245.51%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000017521648402%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=avv30AqHJaPb
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Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
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Yes , store is called AINAVI and sellers are always helpfull. + for them
del_piero3 said:
Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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Compatibility about what? The function in the head-unit or the physical fit ? The physical fit, on E46 there was no difference from the first to the second phase, all unit that are made for E46 should go in the head-unit location without any issue. I remember the first generation, the units were longer and sometimes it was tricky to get all the rear cables sorted correctly so the unit would enter the dashboard correctly, but now i see that the units are shorter so it shouldn't be an issue. About the software, i hope with the canbus that all the functions are decoded correctly form the bus, unless there is some bugs. And last but not least, about the OEM installation in place, this is up to us to check, mine have the OEM navigation with the BM54 in the trunk, so i know that i have to take the long cable to connect the unit in the one in the trunk, and that is some work to be done Unless i am missing something ?
the only one that worries me a bit is the screen resolution. I am wondering if such big screen with 1280x720 is enough ?