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HI Friends
Do you hv any software to carry out fast USB Charging option, to charge my XDA with same speed as done by AC Adapter...
I have seen that other WM2003 models has this option.... like in HP 6515..
Thanks
Manmohan
Interesting... I've got a desktop holder which has to modes: charge-only and normal sync/charge mode. I wonder wether charge-only mode "enables" fast charging or wether the AC adapter does something special...
If i'm not mistaken, the typical USB port outputs 5V of power at 500mAh (milliamp-hours). And in my case, my shipped charger outputs 5V at 1000mAh . using the supplied charger would charge my Magician twice as fast compared to the USB (explanation below). I think even USB2.0 ports still give out power at 500mAh.
The Magician's battery is rated at 1200mAh. Charging through the PC's USB port would take roughly 2.4 hours. Using the supplied charger, it would take 1.2 hours. Simple equation for charging is, battery rating (mAh) divided by charger rating [so that's 1200mAh/500mAh for USB]. Disregard the voltage for now unless you plan to make your own standard/portable charger. Rule of thumb, refrain charging the battery with a higher mAh rated charger.. It will damage the battery in the long run.
Hope this helps. Cheers!
Although if you could somehow control charging via software that'd be a nifty tool...
i doubt it since max current USB can provide is 500mah as any more would damage the port and probably the board.
Hello
Yup, jedhonx your right! Its the amount of power supplied! There is no way that you could use a software to charge the device in USB at faster rates.
The only way it could be thought of is like, if your device processor is running at certain spped, it consumes some power. When it runs at lower speed, it consumes lesser power and so if the software could make your processor run low or to shut down other programs maybe would show you an incresed speed of charging!
Regards
Carty..
what about taking two usb ports with such a hard disk cable?
snudel said:
what about taking two usb ports with such a hard disk cable?
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One of the following three thing WILL happen if ALL of them...
1-Fried Motherboard
2-Fried Battery
3-Fried Device
The first can happen because the USB ports will send energy to each other, the other two because voltage WILL duplicate... Think like this, when you have a device that uses "normal" batteries like a remote or a portable cd-player that uses two or more 1.5V batteries they use it because the device works with 3V (2*1.5V batteries)... Hope I made myself clear, because my english is quite rusty...
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The first can happen because the USB ports will send energy to each other, the other two because voltage WILL duplicate... Think like this, when you have a device that uses "normal" batteries like a remote or a portable cd-player that uses two or more 1.5V batteries they use it because the device works with 3V (2*1.5V batteries)... Hope I made myself clear, because my english is quite rusty...
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Well if you link USB ports to increase voltage it's true that it'll probably kill the mb. But linking 2 UBS connectors to increase amps is no problem and often done. You end up getting 5V 1A output. You could even link more ports to further increase the maximum supplied amps, alltough I never tested more than 3.
Linking 2 ports in a way that increases amps will NOT fry the mb, will NOT fry the battery and will NOT fry the device.
I'd say give it a try and see if it charges quicker.
Actually I think it depends on how many separate USB chips are connected to the USB ports. On one chip (or better say channel) can be more than one port be connected on the computer (like with a passive hub). In that case, connecting two USB cables in parallel doesn't change anything. Otherwise you could connect the cables in parallel and simply get more current at the same voltage (not to mix up with setting batteries in serial).
There are USB chips on the market that supply more than the specified 500mAh, but I suppose the Magician itself detects a USB connection to the computer. I remember that the first ROMs could only be loaded by USB chargers when Pin5 was connected to Ground, which was never necessary when a real USB connection was established to the computer. USB connections to the computer only use 4 Pins. This tells me that the Magician distinguishes between a connection to the charger and a connection via PC USB and limits the power drain correspondingly. If that is the case, connecting a cable with two USB ports doesn't help, it's still recognized as PC USB connection by the Magician.
it maybe OOT, but still relates. my magician can only be charged by usb cables. wont work on ac adapter. it has been going for few months and it really bugging me since it takes 4 hours to charge through usb cables.
i did try hard reset and no change .
HI Friends
I appreciate that you are trying all your mind to find the solution..
I believe that O2 provied AC Adapter wont pass additional current to screw up the battery life as it is provided by O2 Manufacturer itself. If Adapter takes 2 Hrs to completely charge the O2 Mini, then this can be done by USB cable also.
Also if you see in any other PDA running windows mobile 5 you will see an option of "fast USB Charging"..
It means that it can be done, but we need to find out how it can be done.
Thanks
Hey all,
Nowerdays there r cheap car radios with a USB-connector. So i asked myself if it would be possible to get the touch hd synchronized und loaded with only one usb-cable?
On the one hand it would get loaded by the radio and the other hand i could hear the music from the touch hd, with a direct connection.
Is that possible? If yes...with every Radio? what r the attentions i have to look for?
I assume with 'loaded' you mean 'charged'?
The car radio will have generic USB storage drivers, so HD could work as (overpriced/sized) USB memory stick. But to the radio, it would be only that, just a dumb USB memory. You can't use HTC player software.
Depending on the radio, it may have problems with long filenames, or files not in the root, or memory larger then 2Gb. And of course it may not play all MP3 sub-formats. But if the radio is recent, it probably plays most common formats and even larger USB memory.
Charging should work, but the radio may not be set up to deliver the full 500mA power so charging may be slow. Since the HTC is powered on, it may even consume more than it charges.
ye sry, i mean charge ofc
well...i wanted to use my hd for navigation and thought it would be nice to hear the files of my hd (ofc the radio needs to have mp3-support).
but the radio may not be set up to deliver the full 500mA power so charging may be slow
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so charging is in general with 500mA? doesn't matter if connected to pc or directly at electricity? in that case i would have to look at it at the radio, maybe there r differences
usb charge if given 5volt usb is spc'd to provide max .5amps
amps are not pushed they are drawn so if you connect something
which draw .5amps it dont matter if you connect it to something
which can provide 1000amps
a device draw as much as it's resistence set it to
ohms law
amp == volt / ohm
It doesn't work that way AFAIK.
I tested it with Omnia before, with a simple FM transmitter...
I have installed a Blaupunkt headunit quite recently in my car, and I will try my Touch HD in drive mode with it when I go home from work...
I'll let you know the result...
Correct, current is drawn and if a device draws only 500mA, it does not matter how much the supply can deliver. However, if the supply can only deliver less, like 150mA, you cannot draw more from it. So it is always the minimum of supply and demand.
As to the USB-HTC:
USB can officially deliver up to 500mA, but equally officially, a device needs to first *ask* how much power it is allowed to take.
If the HTC detects a real USB data connection, it will ask the computer how much it is allowed to draw, which will never be more than 500mA, but it may even be less.
Your radio is a real USB data connection BUT as it was designed for only memory, it may not have the actual hardware to go up to 500mA. Or it may not have the communication protocol installed needed to answer a power-query. Therefore it may max out at 100mA.
If the HTC detects a 'dumb' power source (without data connection, only with power) it will draw 500mA.
If the HTC detects a 'dumb' power source with the 2th pin (pin B on the mini-USB) connected to ground, it assumes a extra powerful supply and will draw up to 2000mA.
The USB slot on my Sony car stereo will not charge the HTC Touch HD - not enough power. It will charge my old Polaris, however.
MY carradio charges the phone ...
but connecting as usb drive and charing the same time is working only some minutes before´the phone is stopping to work..
-- reset needet.
so still charing possible if using as navigation system or music usb drive without charging.. don't know why.
I've noticed when I have my tablet plugged into my computer via USB it doesn't appear to be charging. The battery icon is showing a red lightning bolt. This is different than when I have my tab plugged into a wall socket.
Working as intended or..?
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Good to know! thanks for your help
just be prepaired to wait a while to gain any % hahaha
Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000
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Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000
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That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.
can use this cable... Y TYPE USB CABLE A MALE to A FEMALE CONNECTOR 2 TO 1. enough power now? y can find it on bay...
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That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.
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It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.
USB Charger
Have also use this USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000. Works great.
currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks
foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)
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Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)
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The focus charger is rated only about 700ma (same exact one as Captivate/SGS), marginablly better than PC USB. GT 10.1 has a rather large battery and hence it requires much larger charge current. You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
jaoropez said:
currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks
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Is that through the orginal AC adapter or through PC USB?
Turning off the tablet and charging it via USB works, but it takes forever!
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It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.
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And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.
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And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.
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Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.
First of all, not all USB ports are equal.
On many modern PCs, the USB ports can deliver more than 500mA over USB if required. This is definitely true for pretty much all Macs since 2007, and quite a few mainboards from other manufacturers (see this article for some background).
Secondly, I've had one of these adaptors for quite a while now, and have used it regularly to charge my Galaxy Tab 7" which uses exactly the same power supply and cables as the GT 10.1. I can categorically state that when using this adaptor, it the GT7 does charge from a Macbook Air and a 5000mAh external battery that has a 1A output USB port labelled for an iPad.
Whilst it might not be as quick as the wall charger, it is definitely much faster than attempting to charge the GT7 from the same devices without the adaptor, even if the device is in use.
I've not formally tried to charge my GT10.1 with it yet, but I did check to see if the "not-charging" indicator went away (which it did), so I rather presume it will work much like the GT7.
Regards,
Dave
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Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.
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You don't need to embarrass yourself by saying you're an idiot, It's very childish and the second time you mention I'm supposed to be smarter then you. I'm sorry you take this so personally.
i just use the supplied cable and it charges via usb on my computer. it shows not charging, but it basically trickle charges when the tab is both on and off
Hi, everybody.
i just buy a samsung galaxy tab 7.7 and just noticed only can be charged by using the power socket provided by samsung.
now i found a way to charge your tab by your laptop or PC through samsung STANDARD USB DATA CABLE cable.
First, download the software (ASUS Ai Charger) attached:
Second, just install and enjoy to charge your tablet through use cable.
FYI, battery indicator still showing no charging but actually it is charging.
you can check after one minute by viwing the remaining power up.
Thanks.
Is this software just raise yr usb port mah to certain amount?
If so, will this harm the computer?
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My tab charges when plugged into my computer without that (or any similar software, only Kies and AOSP USB drivers installed). It doesn't show charging but the charge definitely goes up. Does that software actually make it charge faster? I have to say, I'm pretty dubious.
I would recommended getting the following adapter, I originally bought it for my original tab and was able to charge via the laptop with no problem. It charges as fast as the wall charger.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-car-wal...Accessories&hash=item2c5c07736b#ht_3171wt_927
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actually i installed this software in order to charge my IPAD2. below is the description from the ASUS website: With the exclusive ASUS Ai Charger, all of your motherboards, and desktops become universal chargers for your iPod, iPhone and now, the new iPad. Ai Charger turns any PC into a flexible power-up station for popular Apple devices through a simple USB connector, extending their usability and benefit in every lifestyle. Charging goes up to and smoother while you do your work or have fun – whether at home or on the go. The Ai Charger software is available for a variety of chipsets and motherboards from ASUS as well as all desktops, so just click and prepare for even more enjoyment! .
my tablet is charged well.
Thanks
Thanks for the info.
Though it must be noted that you need an Asus motherboard for this, my Gigabyte provides 1A front USB ports thats where I charge the Tab7.7 I'll try if there is any difference real world difference if I plug it into one of the regular USB ports.
I accidentally found out I was able to charge from my Mac without using this special software as follow:
I bought an external battery, New Trent IMP99D (Amazon Link) and it came with a special USB extension cable (picture below) that is designed for the Tab 10.1. If I plug the GT7+ directly to the IMP99D without using the extension cable, NO charging takes place. However, if I use the extension cable, charging works.
I connect the extension cable to my MacBook Air, connect the GT7+ charging cable and the tablet and... VOILA.. it's charging! HoneyComb even reported that it is an "AC Charging" and it charge pretty fast.
So you can either
a). Buy the battery and it comes with the cable
b). Buy JUST THE CABLE, model IMP44B (manufacturer link here)
3w.pisen.com.cn/picture/show/887.shtm l (use translate
I've ordered thus one. will see uf will charge the 6800 with the 30pin cable to computer usb...
If you just want to charge via pc you can turn off your device, this way will work.
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I recharge the battery using my pc all the time... just connect it with the USB cable and that's it... no software or anything like that... The tablet battery Icon does have a strange X on it but it still charges the phone (AHHuummm, Tablet) just like the electric plug thingy...
Hello guys,
Does anyone knows if there is a otg cable/hub that can power the tablet and be able to use data like usb connected at the same time?
Thanks
The 2019 tablet does not need this, since the port is USB type C albeit USB 2.0; I have connected mine to a hub and have pass-through charging and data. OTG is not really a thing any more since USB type C came about.
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The 2019 tablet does not need this, since the port is USB type C albeit USB 2.0; I have connected mine to a hub and have pass-through charging and data. OTG is not really a thing any more since USB type C came about.
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Can you share the type of hub you have been used?
Is the charging speed fine?
Kingston Nucleum. This tablet is in my car and the hub receives power from a 12-14v converter providing USB C PD and USB 3.0 fast charge. Ultimately, the hub defaults charging voltage to that of the lowest device connected. In my case a Sandisk SSD and a Meizu HiFi DAC Pro. This generally means that charging is slow, however it depends on your configuration. I'd say that the charging speed is fine, however it only charges when the car is running or in accessory mode and the tablet is always on in that state. As such the excess power it uses to charge whilst running is only a little more than it uses. It might charge faster if I power the hub from the USB C PD port, however I don't know if this is just pure amps or whether it negotiates higher charging voltages. I don't know if the Nucleum hub allows negotiation of higher charging voltages.
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Kingston Nucleum. This tablet is in my car and the hub receives power from a 12-14v converter providing USB C PD and USB 3.0 fast charge. Ultimately, the hub defaults charging voltage to that of the lowest device connected. In my case a Sandisk SSD and a Meizu HiFi DAC Pro. This generally means that charging is slow, however it depends on your configuration. I'd say that the charging speed is fine, however it only charges when the car is running or in accessory mode and the tablet is always on in that state. As such the excess power it uses to charge whilst running is only a little more than it uses. It might charge faster if I power the hub from the USB C PD port, however I don't know if this is just pure amps or whether it negotiates higher charging voltages. I don't know if the Nucleum hub allows negotiation of higher charging voltages.
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Nice, i'm using for the same purpose.
In my dash car
I'm also using MacroDroid for automation.
My issue right now is how should i leave the tablet when i turn ignition off.
I Think i will just shut it down, but i don't like to wait 30 seconds to but again when i turn it on.
What do you do in your case?
I'll have to check out MacroDroid. I'm currently set up with AutoMate, however there's a few annoyances which I think need ironing out. Vanilla Android Auto might not be the most exciting, but it's certainly the most friendly for driving safety.
I leave my tablet as-is. AutoMate automatically wakes the tablet into car mode on USB power and goes to sleep when it loses that. My car (Chrysler 300C) has accessory power for 30s (I think I can increase this in the EVIC) after the ignition is turned off which keeps the charger energised, and by extension the tablet. I'm not too bothered about having to boot up the tablet if it does discharge its battery to shutdown. I think it's maybe a week or so for it to do that, likely less when the tablet ages. As long as it charges and runs on the supply happily I think we're good. In that instance, I might have to see whether an auxiliary power bank would be a workable option. Not at this stage though. Bear in mind that most modern car head units still take about the same amount of time to boot as an Android tablet anyway.
I'm having minor USB issues myself, however this is down to the cable I need not being available. A lot of USB C "charging" cables are only pinned for power and not data. This might be part of any USB C issues you might be having. I myself need a USB C male with a tight 90° or 180° turn, out to a USB C female for the hub's pigtail. I might have to make the choice to fabricobble myself a USB cable just for this purpose....
This is a photo of the install, prior to me wrapping it in 3M brushed black steel vinyl.
I'm updating all of my comments in various threads on this. My setup with the Kingston Nucleum hubis having minor issues. The tablet still needs to be powered up before I turn on the car or at least supply power to the hub. It seems that if this is done the other way around, that is, to power on the car accessories (and hence the hub) then it seems to end up staying as the "device in charge" of the USB network. The tablet charges (slowly) but doesn't mount the USB SSD drive or the USB DAC. If the tablet is powering the hub (in charge, so to speak) then applying power to the hub via the car accessory supply has it working as expected. This does mean that the tablet ends up with a power drain when the car/USB power supply is powered down which isn't ideal. I've gotten into the habit of turning the tablet off when I park for long periods of time, however I need to boot it up to "take charge" of the USB hub network before I can start the car. It's a bit of a bummer.
I'm unsure whether this is a tablet hardware/software issue, the hub or whatever. Going into Android settings and trying to alter the default USB behaviour returns the message that it "cannot switch roles" or something along those lines. I'm beginning to think that this might be the USB hub refusing to switch/relinquish power supply roles once it has external power and hence not allowing the tablet to mount drives or see connected USB devices. It's weird behaviour, because you'd imagine that if the hub were connected to a laptop this would be a common action.
If it helps, I've read that OTG function is not included by Samsung for their device's USB ports. I've been trying to connect some together to perform file transfers with no success. However, I have been able to transfer and charge simultaneously between my SM-T510 tablet and PCs with the USB configuration set to file transfer.
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The 2019 tablet does not need this, since the port is USB type C albeit USB 2.0; I have connected mine to a hub and have pass-through charging and data. OTG is not really a thing any more since USB type C came about.
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How to transfare Battery power from Tab to another Android device?