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Still struggling with Music Tab

I'm interested to know how others are getting on with the music tab in HTC sense. It took me a long time to get round to buying a 16GB card, but now I have I'm struggling to get the Music tab to function.
With a small collection of music it works just fine. However as I increase the collection at some point it breaks, so that it will only play a few seconds of a track before stopping, usually accompanied by a spinning circle in the top left of the screen, when that stops spinning the music stops. Something to do with indexing I'm assuming.
My music is organised in a fairly standard \Storage Card\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\ style format so there are no individually huge folders My favoured bitrate has been 192 so the files shouldn't be too big. I've tried syncing with Windows Media Player and with Mediamonkey. I've had mediamonkey convert all files as it syncs to WMA format or to MP3 at constant bitrate. All with the same results.
Who has the music tab functioning well with several GB's worth of music on their card? What settings did you use?
Of course I can just have WMP as a quick link on my first line whic happily plays everything and retains bluetooth AVRCP fuctionality. However the Music Tab interface is far nicer when it works.

<no longer true>My music tab isn't funtioning AT ALL, let alone well. It lists all my music (only 4 albums for experimenting, all tagged) alphabetically, and only draws the top half of the embedded albumart.
Doesn't even attempt to play, just sits there. Click next track, same - just draws half teh album art then sits there. Phone isn't hung or anything, just doesn't play.
Shame really, but i've not had it a week yet, so I'm gonna ignore it for now, and i'll look into it deeper once I have stopped playing with all the other bits.</no longer true>
See post 2 below

Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.

**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.

samsamuel said:
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
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Yes,
I think using ActiveSync organises the files into a more easily accessible format/location, which is why I suggested it. Good to know that everything is working ok for you now though

OK, so I backed up everything on the card. Formatted the card using the phones built in application. Copied everything back except the music files.
Used Mediamonkey and set up an auto-conversion rule to convert everything it syncs to MP3 format at 192 bitrate whether it needs converting or not.
Updated the library in Media player on the HD2.
reset the HD2 and let the music tab re-index everything.
Everything is now working perfectly. Thanks for the opinions. Whether it was the phone format or just that I hadn't actually used those exact rules for syncing I can't say as mediamonkey was origionally setup to only convert files if it had to. I had issues with Windows Media Player missing out files.

Gajet said:
Everything is now working perfectly.
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Everything still perfect? I am almost able to sync without incident, but the "audio manager" crashes at the end of every sync (and, when prompted by the phone, I keep reporting the crash to Microsoft even though I don't expect them to get back to me anytime soon).
It also seems like I have to do a soft reset after each sync to shake out all of the bugs (missing album art, unplayable song files, etc.)
FWIW, I'm only syncing about 30 songs now until I have this sorted out, so having GBs worth of files isn't the problem (I was NEVER able to get 8GB of music to work in Manila's music tab on my Raphael).

id say that sounds more like an active sync issue.its never been the most stable program. why not simply connect in hard drive mode (or put memory card in card reader) and just drag and drop the music to it , then let the phone find it all itself.that'd be my preferred method.

gargon01 said:
Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
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How do you format the card from the Phone?

kochavy said:
How do you format the card from the Phone?
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I can jump in and answer that one - press the Window key (third one along on the bottom) (or press the button at the top left) and go to tools and there at the bottom is a button to format the SD card.
One thing I would like to see is the ability for the player to decode .ogg files - I love gapless playback, and really miss it with mp3's. I am trying to rip some stuff now, but it is a pain having to rip multiple tracks to one mp3 file just to avoid the hop skip and jump when playing back.
All the best.
rjstep3

When I was having issues with my music tab I followed the format SD card and organised into Artist/Album/tracks but what really worked for me was converting my entire library into LAME mp3. 1500+ songs are now working perfectly. I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.

Hoodeddeathman said:
I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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dBpoweramp is certainly very good - but don't forget the free options as well, including foobar, Exact Audio Copy and Freerip3 - just Google for them.
rjstep3

i am also having a problem with the music.tab on the htc hd2. at first i was really plsased.with this phone but no w i am havekng countless problems with it...such as cudnt play videos with utube app installed...now this music nonsense.....i have spent toooo much mone on this phone t be getin these poblems and alsopurchased a 16gb card....i live tge hd2 .if only there was less problems
nyway has anyone found a working solution

I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.

Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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I don't know why that would be, but if it works then it works!
I have a "MUSIC" folder on my SD card, and in that I have artist sub-folders and then within them I have album sub-folders. It all works fine for me. This is literally the same folder that I've had for the past 3 WM phones, and I just copied it there manually, without using any type of synch.

Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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Could be because of the length of the path/filename when sub folders are used?
EG
theartistfoldernamedartist/thenameofthealbum/theartistfoldernamedartist-thenameofthealbum-thetracknumber.mp3
Perhaps the scanner struggles to cope with long path/filenames?

Ive got this problem and i was wondering if it had anything to do with the quality of the storage card?
Edit:
REASON FOUND
"One bad apple spoils the barrel"
One badly encoded mp3 will make the entire player stop. I found this while playing mp3s on music tab whilst transfering new mp3s through drag and drop (active sync) as soon as one particular mp3 was transferred the player stop and music would stop after 2-5secs. After deleting this file and reaccessing music tab library it was back to normal.
Suggestions: leave music player on whilst drag and dropping so you can figure out which are the problem files.
Alternatively: Re-encode your mp3s, either all or the problem files only.

I have been having an intermitment problem with the music tab in that it works fine for most of the time but then suddenly when I open it I get the spinning circle at the top left and the whole thing has frozen. The only way to get it working is a soft reset.
It doesn't seem to be badly formatted mp3 as after the reset the file that was in the player will work again.
I transfer music from windows media player using the sync function.
It has never stopped working whilst playing only when I open the tab and I think a few times it has been when a track has been paused for some time.
Any ideas are welcome. . .

My music tab doesn't work properly every time after the device was connected via USB in external drive mode. The last played title keeps being displayed, the album it is in is shown in the library as well (as currently played items or however this the first list in the library is called in english) but nothing else is listed. And the little white circle keeps spinning and spinning... I let it spin for hours once but nothing happened. The SD card was formatted by the phone in the first place and I never get freezes once the player works properly.
After a soft reset everything works fine instantly but shouldn't there be a way to get it up and running without resetting everytime I use USB external drive mode???
ROM 1.66 GER, problem was present on clean ROM (before tweaks and tools), too.

Music player problems......FS

How many albums can you store in the music player??
I have tried to add around 30 or so as i have a 16gb card, the phone just freezes, then after about 5 reboots, shows around 7 albums, but some doubled even though they are on the card once, its then downloaded 20 covers for the same album, but put the covers into another albums folder that has nothing to do with it, and now i have several folders on my card i cant delete as it says "you cannot delete this folder cus its not empty????"
I delete the files in the folder, and i still cant delete.
What a buggy pile of dog turd!

How did you transfer the music? if you used activesync a lot of people have had problems, try moving it using disk drive mode instead.

I always use diskdrive mode, or remove the memcard and put it straight into a card reader, this is crap, i now have 6 albums, 3 of wich are being duped, 4 will play 2 wont, and i keep getting "Audiomanger has caused a problem and keeps crashing.
CRAP

I have more than albums without any problem. The music tab is lagging in the beginning because there's too much musics, but after about 10 sec. of lag (loading all musics), all is perfectly working.

Well mine is an asshole, completely useless as a music player, i have to add each album one at a time, some just send it insane for no reason.
I have a feeling this 16gb card isnt helping, i found all 16gb cars to be buggy, may go back to a 8gb.
Also just noticed it jumps songs from 01 to 07, even though they are numbers from 1 to 13.
One word simply SHOCKING.

Did you connect your phone in "USB" mode, when adding your musics, or in "Active Sync" mode ?

I have about 200 albums on a 16gb card and never had any major problems, even when adding lots of albums at once, either by using ActiveSync, Diskdrive mode or a memory card. Even the library interface is still very fast and responsive.
Just wondering: do you put all your mp3's in one big folder, or do you have separate folders for each album (as I do)? From your description, I'm guessing separate folders, which is good. I would also check the mp3 tags with a program like Mp3tag if I were you.
Actually... your problem sounds exactly like what happened when my previous memory card broke. I'm not sure but I think it happened when using a card reader in my pc, even though I always 'safely remove'; after that, the music player crashed and failed to build its library, and several folders caused trouble in the file explorer. I was still on my previous device then (Touch Pro) but the results would probably be the same on the HD2.
I don't think the fact that it's a 16gb card causes trouble (I've been using one for a long time without a hitch), but there's a good possibility that yours is broken.

HTC sense player wont find my music

Used to work fine but over the weekend my phone started crashing whenever i went to music tab. have scince done several har resets and tryed different rom flashes. no longer crashes but wont find the music.
currently useing miri-dinik (anastacia) rom, and and sandisk 32gb class 4 card.
Sense player origonaly found the music when rom first flashed last night but after a couple of hours stoped working. Windows media player still finds it all and plays it no problem.
can anybody help.
Correction!
have just realised sense player done find them in all songs tab but will not display anything under the artist album or genres tab
Please help i have a lot of music so browsing all 25gb by song title only is hell.

I found this on the HD2 and HD Mini when moving from a 16Gb to 32Gb MicroSD card; I suspect it's a problem with not being able to read data from the card quickly enough, and will required a ROM patch/update.

Same thing here, music stops after a few seconds and music player in landscape will give me a 'no music found' error.
I can see my music in the all songs tab, but in the albums tab I see none.
I tried 3 different ROMs Artemis, energy and for now Cleanex, all with the same error.
I tried formatting the SD-card (16GB) and sync all my songs with WMP, this did the trick for about 5 minutes
Really frustrating because music player is the app I use the most.

where are y'all finding 32gb micro sd's??? (legit ones)

I'm having this exact same problem. Normaly the musicplayer would always load the songs but now it just can't organise it anymore. I can view all my songs on the all songs tab though, but I like to listen to albums, so this is not an option for me, neither a different player, because I actually liked this one till it gave me this problem.
What I found out:
- The player will work again when you perform an hard-reset, but when you're doing your first soft-reset, the musicplayer stops working and is unable to organise the songs.
- After a hard-reset, your also not supposed to take out your SD-card, because you will get the same problem again.
- The player also starts working again if you delete \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Audiomanger_Eng.vol, but after one single soft-reset it will stop working.
Does anybody have a solution to this problem? I also tried to format my SD-card, but it gave me the same problem. The music player always worked for me, till now. I would really appreciate help.
P.S. Sorry for any grammar or spell faults, I'm dutch.

I had the same problem and solved it by formating my SD card and copy all contens back to the SD card. After a soft reset of the Phone it could find the music and play without stopping again.

Unfortunately it didn't work for me. Any other solutions?

The only original SanDisk 32 GB mSD is CLASS 2 ! There is no CLASS 4
Maybe You got faked mSDs ?

No mine is from Kingston and it is Class 2 and it's 16 GB. Like I said it always worked till now.

Sorry for the double post, but I just really want my musicplayer working again, it's one of the main reasons I bought this phone. Does anyone have the solution for this problem?

Daan0 said:
Sorry for the double post, but I just really want my musicplayer working again, it's one of the main reasons I bought this phone. Does anyone have the solution for this problem?
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How did you your music on the card? when I first got my hd2, I just basically copied my music folder from my pc by the typical "drag n drop" method which rendered the sense music player pretty much useless. What I did was have Itunes on my pc organize, (File/Library/Organize Library), the library and then locate this folder in the music folder, (Music/Itunes/Itunes Music/Music). Open that music folder and you will see that Itunes has filed the music by artist alphabetically. I then selected all these folders and copied them over (except for ringtones and podcasts folder) and have had no problems since.
Basically I think that since we are dealing with a phone that is a Windows based system, the more you can organize folders in a directory oriented manner, the better. Wether this will solve your problem or not, I really don't know. I read another post where a hd2 owner made a directory of alphabetical folders, A,B,C, etc, and put the artists in each folder accordingly and had similar results. Again, don't know if it will help or not.
Also, I don't use the WMP. Don't like it, never have liked it even on my pc. On the hd2 it seems shaky at best so I stay away from it. Just my personal experience.

\Android\data\com.android.providers.media\albumthu mbs folder keeps filling SD

Hello,
Recently I found that my SD card (that I just bought new) suddenly had 0,0 byte (shown like that) free space left. I had been using tens of hours of music player in the car (power amp) and a few hours of GPS.
I checked my SD card when this kept occuring, and found that the \Android\data\com.android.providers.media\albumthumbs folder contained tons of files, totalling about 1,5 to 1,7 GB of space.
I found here http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones that MediaProvider.apk uses this and I should not delete this (which I have done by now anyway since I lost some functions of my smartphone, which annoyed me).
So does anybody know what makes this happen? I have about 9,5 GB of music on my SD card, but with my old SD card (standard 2 GB) that I used for over a year I never had this problem. I would like to have a way to prevent this from happening over and over again. I don't need album thumbs... Even though I set "don't download album art" in poweramp options, the problem reoccurs, so I doubt it has to do with that option.
I use CM7 nightly #177 and recently tried to run the A2SD script (see my other thread in this section) and changed my 2GB card for a 16GB one, could any of these perhaps be the reason?
Cheers!

2gb album art for 10 gb songs.! dude r u a muzic maniac? sorry if i hurt u. but i just got wondered. i have put 1ly 2 gb music. and occationally changes the collection.
so i may suggest u some thing.
if u are facing with problems of downloading album art when u play music, just cut down mobile data connection when u use player. else....
try embedding some album art into ur mp3z using a computer, so no more downloading happens. else....
try changing/ deleating the id3 tags from songs.
applications are available for id3 management for win/ lin / mac. google it.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

I do not add any art myself. I did not have this problem for over a year. It appeared now when I got a new SD card and used the A2SD script. The files reappear after deleting them but I don't think they are downloaded. There is actually no art SHOWN in the music player, that's why I don't know why art thumbs are in that folder...
and yes, I am am a music maniac My wildfire now replaces my good ol' iPod

Even I have this problem. I think its some bug. I have just 5 GB o music but 2 GB of albumart thumbs !! Wonder where it comes from !! This is on Nexus S..

im getting the same problem, using OMFGB and DECK for evo, i didnt get it using synergy, could it be a AOSP situation?

[Q] Weird happening with my music

I've got a galaxy S4 running on Google Edition 4.4. I have always used MediaMonkey to add my music onto my device, last week I had added a bunch of new songs to my phone (onto the EXT SD card). I went to add some more today and I had noticed a bunch of songs missing according to MediaMonkey. I went onto the device with windows explorer and to my surprise couldn't locate a random chunk of the songs that I put on last week.
Oddly enough the Google music app can still see and play the songs on my device, but according to my PC they do not exist. The only way I can actually view all the missing songs is through ES File Explorer in which everything is in the music folder and seems fine.
View hidden files is enabled, did something mess up when the songs were copied over or what the heck happened?