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Hi all,
To cut a long story short, around the time MM was being released I cracked my display and broke the digitiser. Before sending the phone off for repair I got the update notification -.- but sent it away without updating as I couldn't accept it. Phone returned and working but no OTA notification, factory reset a few times, sim out and try again, all the usual tricks. They flashed my phone in the factory (came back wiped) and for some reason this firmware isn't getting the OTA update.
So after persevering with Lollipop (and cracking the display again, and fixing it myself this time) I'm getting Marshmallow one way or another. I just would like to know the best way.
I'd rather keep everything as stock as possible (in terms of bootloaders and rooting) and my current plan was to flash TWRP and try running a MM OTA file. I'm just looking to verify this would work and if so, any pitfalls (future OTAs) or things that could go horribly wrong by doing something idiotic.
I'm on an EU XT1572 so I'm assuming a general EU OTA file will work?
Thanks in advance for any assistance,
Phil
clarkey586 said:
Hi all,
To cut a long story short, around the time MM was being released I cracked my display and broke the digitiser. Before sending the phone off for repair I got the update notification -.- but sent it away without updating as I couldn't accept it. Phone returned and working but no OTA notification, factory reset a few times, sim out and try again, all the usual tricks. They flashed my phone in the factory (came back wiped) and for some reason this firmware isn't getting the OTA update.
So after persevering with Lollipop (and cracking the display again, and fixing it myself this time) I'm getting Marshmallow one way or another. I just would like to know the best way.
I'd rather keep everything as stock as possible (in terms of bootloaders and rooting) and my current plan was to flash TWRP and try running a MM OTA file. I'm just looking to verify this would work and if so, any pitfalls (future OTAs) or things that could go horribly wrong by doing something idiotic.
I'm on an EU XT1572 so I'm assuming a general EU OTA file will work?
Thanks in advance for any assistance,
Phil
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Easy-peasy.
*NOTE - Using TWRP to flash the OTA.zip IS NOT an option, it WILL fail. You can however use the stock recovery and ADB sideload it.. but the following is how I would probably do it. It's also easier IMO.
I'm assuming your bootloader is unlocked since you were talking about using TWRP so grab the WHOLE 6.0 firmware for your phone (I'm guessing your're RETEU so -> XT1572_CLARK_RETEU_6.0_MPHS24.49-18-3_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip - It's 1.3GB in size) and then reboot the phone into the bootloader (Fastboot mode) and use the files in it to flash everything (this process will wipe the phone so backup anything important first) with fastboot and you will be on a clean completely stock 6.0 with the february patch.
Code:
fastboot flash partition gpt.bin
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
fastboot flash logo logo.bin
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.0
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.1
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.2
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.3
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.4
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.5
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.6
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.7
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.8
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot reboot
Standalone Fastboot & adb installer - LINK
WHOLE Firmware - LINK
Good luck! If your bootloader is not already unlocked and you don't want to unlock it there is still hope.. it will just be a bit different process by using the OTA zips and the stock recovery.. let me know if you MUST go down this route.. it's a bit more of a PITA IMO.
EDIT* If terminal commands are not your thing you can also try using RSDLite.(Official Moto tool). but I've not personally tried it with my Moto X Pure... I like the terminal
DaMadOne said:
Easy-peasy.
*NOTE - Using TWRP to flash the OTA.zip IS NOT an option, it WILL fail. You can however use the stock recovery and ADB sideload it.. but the following is how I would probably do it. It's also easier IMO.
I'm assuming your bootloader is unlocked since you were talking about using TWRP so grab the WHOLE 6.0 firmware for your phone (I'm guessing your're RETEU so -> XT1572_CLARK_RETEU_6.0_MPHS24.49-18-3_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip - It's 1.3GB in size) and then reboot the phone into the bootloader (Fastboot mode) and use the files in it to flash everything (this process will wipe the phone so backup anything important first) with fastboot and you will be on a clean completely stock 6.0 with the february patch.
Code:
fastboot flash partition gpt.bin
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
fastboot flash logo logo.bin
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.0
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.1
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.2
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.3
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.4
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.5
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.6
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.7
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.8
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot reboot
Standalone Fastboot & adb installer - LINK
WHOLE Firmware - LINK
Good luck! If your bootloader is not already unlocked and you don't want to unlock it there is still hope.. it will just be a bit different process by using the OTA zips and the stock recovery.. let me know if you MUST go down this route.. it's a bit more of a PITA IMO.
EDIT* If terminal commands are not your thing you can also try using RSDLite.(Official Moto tool). but I've not personally tried it with my Moto X Pure... I like the terminal
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Thanks a million.
I've not unlocked my bootloader, but I don't think it should be a problem there's plenty of tutorials etc for that.
Ideally, I'd not like to wipe my phone but alas it looks like that's going to be the case and I'll trust your advice rather than looking for a lazy way out haha. Is there any way to back up everything (even just apps, etc) without root though?
Cheers :good:
clarkey586 said:
Thanks a million.
I've not unlocked my bootloader, but I don't think it should be a problem there's plenty of tutorials etc for that.
Ideally, I'd not like to wipe my phone but alas it looks like that's going to be the case and I'll trust your advice rather than looking for a lazy way out haha. Is there any way to back up everything (even just apps, etc) without root though?
Cheers :good:
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Yea, your warranty is void at this point anyways so why not just unlock it! I root and use TiBu.. so I've not tested other backup methods but I'm pretty sure there are backup apps on the playstore that don't require root you could try.
BUT, the step "fastboot erase userdata" is what erases your installed apps/setting and personal files, etc. Really you can just SKIP that step and you SHOULD be ok. Then your apps and settings will be there when you boot 6.0. I was just providing instructions for a fully clean flash. I would say you have a 98% chance it will be just fine though if you don't erase userdata.
EDIT* oh and IIRC you will probably get an error or weird msg with the gpt.bin part of the flash.. ignore it..
EDIT 2* Here is one such app that doesn't look like it requires root. If you go this route make sure you copy everything over to your PC after using the backup app if you are going to run the "fastboot erase userdata" command.
GOOD LUCK!
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Just out of curiosity.. I've just read some posts on here about people getting their phones back from repair and their bootloader says "Device is ENGINEERING" instead of "Device is LOCKED" or "Device is UNLOCKED".
What does yours say? I'm mainly just wondering if it being in ENGINEERING mode is why you are not getting the OTA...
DaMadOne said:
Yea, your warranty is void at this point anyways so why not just unlock it! I root and use TiBu.. so I've not tested other backup methods but I'm pretty sure there are backup apps on the playstore that don't require root you could try.
BUT, the step "fastboot erase userdata" is what erases your installed apps/setting and personal files, etc. Really you can just SKIP that step and you SHOULD be ok. Then your apps and settings will be there when you boot 6.0. I was just providing instructions for a fully clean flash. I would say you have a 98% chance it will be just fine though if you don't erase userdata.
EDIT* oh and IIRC you will probably get an error or weird msg with the gpt.bin part of the flash.. ignore it..
EDIT 2* .... is one such app that doesn't look like it requires root. If you go this route make sure you copy everything over to your PC after using the backup app if you are going to run the "fastboot erase userdata" command.
GOOD LUCK!
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Just out of curiosity.. I've just read some posts on here about people getting their phones back from repair and their bootloader says "Device is ENGINEERING" instead of "Device is LOCKED" or "Device is UNLOCKED".
What does yours say? I'm mainly just wondering if it being in ENGINEERING mode is why you are not getting the OTA...
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Haha suppose you're right! Sure I'll probably just wipe my device in the end, be nice to have a clean go at MM haha.
The bootloader status was indeed locked so I don't know what's causing the issue?
Anyway, thanks a million for the help I'll update if/when all goes well :good:
Despite my best efforts, it seems to have been in vain. I'm getting an error when trying to unlock the bootloader (something along the lines of no backup available, please try again) which is common to people who have sent their phone in for repair.
I'm just wondering if I could flash the firmware regardless of bootloader (Odin maybe?) At this point I'm happy to root suit and boot I'm just a bit sick of moto at this stage so want to be able to control my phone haha.
Any help much appreciated
clarkey586 said:
Despite my best efforts, it seems to have been in vain. I'm getting an error when trying to unlock the bootloader (something along the lines of no backup available, please try again) which is common to people who have sent their phone in for repair.
I'm just wondering if I could flash the firmware regardless of bootloader (Odin maybe?) At this point I'm happy to root suit and boot I'm just a bit sick of moto at this stage so want to be able to control my phone haha.
Any help much appreciated
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Odin is for Samsung. Moto has RSDLite. But if your bootloader is locked the firmware package must be signed by Moto and I don't thing the ones floating around the web are.
So this is the point where it seems you're stuck with the (possibly) more PITA way. What you need to do is find the OTA zip that goes from 5.1.1 -> 6.0 and use the stock recovery to flash that with ADB. Boot to stock recovery, press button sequence to get the menu (I THINK at the fallen android dude you hold vol up for a few seconds then hit the power button while still holding it.. it's something like that to get the actual useful menu) then towards the bottom is an update via ADB, plug phone into pc via usb and select that and then in terminal do "adb sideload <OTA_file>.zip" and it will flash the OTA, assuming your device passes it's check it will feel like it's taking forever. This method won't wipe your phone either.
EDIT* HERE is a post with a link to the EU OTA and much better instructions than mine You can flash it with adb sideload or like that post says by copying it to your phone before booting the recovery and flashing it.
And then.. assuming you get to 6.0 using that OTA hopefully you can trigger the february OTA to auto download. If not... HERE is a link to a post with the february OTA zip for your phone. Flash it the same as last one.
If flashing the OTA with a locked bootloader and stock recovery doesn't work I'm afraid you're either stuck or your phone is on a return path to Moto again.
DaMadOne said:
Odin is for Samsung. Moto has RSDLite. But if your bootloader is locked the firmware package must be signed by Moto and I don't thing the ones floating around the web are.
So this is the point where it seems you're stuck with the (possibly) more PITA way. What you need to do is find the OTA zip that goes from 5.1.1 -> 6.0 and use the stock recovery to flash that with ADB. Boot to stock recovery, press button sequence to get the menu (I THINK at the fallen android dude you hold vol up for a few seconds then hit the power button while still holding it.. it's something like that to get the actual useful menu) then towards the bottom is an update via ADB, plug phone into pc via usb and select that and then in terminal do "adb sideload <OTA_file>.zip" and it will flash the OTA, assuming your device passes it's check it will feel like it's taking forever. This method won't wipe your phone either.
EDIT* HERE is a post with a link to the EU OTA and much better instructions than mine You can flash it with adb sideload or like that post says by copying it to your phone before booting the recovery and flashing it.
And then.. assuming you get to 6.0 using that OTA hopefully you can trigger the february OTA to auto download. If not... HERE is a link to a post with the february OTA zip for your phone. Flash it the same as last one.
If flashing the OTA with a locked bootloader and stock recovery doesn't work I'm afraid you're either stuck or your phone is on a return path to Moto again.
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Ah sure I'll give that a go! Just checking if there are any precautions I should be taking for this? Don't want to brick the phone without the ability to flash it back to life again!
clarkey586 said:
Ah sure I'll give that a go! Just checking if there are any precautions I should be taking for this? Don't want to brick the phone without the ability to flash it back to life again!
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You should be fine. The OTA zip is going to check all of the files it is going to patch first and only upgrade if everything passes. If it finds ANYTHING amiss... it will refuse to flash it. If it refuses to flash it your only hope is to send it to Moto unfortunately.
DaMadOne said:
You should be fine. The OTA zip is going to check all of the files it is going to patch first and only upgrade if everything passes. If it finds ANYTHING amiss... it will refuse to flash it. If it refuses to flash it your only hope is to send it to Moto unfortunately.
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You, my friend, are a hero.
That seems to have done the trick with no issues (going to see if I can potentially unlock the bootloader now) and I'm finally on MM haha. Seems I have to perform the Feb security update separately too for some reason but I'm not too worried about doing things manually.
Sent you a small token of my appreciation, have a pint on me
Thanks once again
clarkey586 said:
You, my friend, are a hero.
That seems to have done the trick with no issues (going to see if I can potentially unlock the bootloader now) and I'm finally on MM haha. Seems I have to perform the Feb security update separately too for some reason but I'm not too worried about doing things manually.
Sent you a small token of my appreciation, have a pint on me
Thanks once again
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Sweet! Thanks for the pint! Glad you're updated now. Did it end up giving you the OTA for the February patch or did you have to use the 2nd OTA?
DaMadOne said:
Sweet! Thanks for the pint! Glad you're updated now. Did it end up giving you the OTA for the February patch or did you have to use the 2nd OTA?
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Had to use the 2nd OTA.zip but I didn't really try any of the remove sim card stuff or waiting long. No unlockable bootloader either but I'm satisfied for the moment haha.
Droid Turbo XT1254 Marshmallow->Lollipop downgrade (unlocking bootloader)COMING SOON?
*this is new thread because I started last as Q&A by mistake so first 2 pages may look off with posts and answers.
DOWNGRADING EXPERIMENT TOPIC
So as you may know , after upgrading to Marshmallow OTA, on locked bootloader there won't be any option to unlock bootloader (ever as some people say) , sunshine officially doens't support Marshmallow. The only option is to downgrade which again isn't possible on locked BL..
Or is it ?
Introduction - skip to DOWNGRADE
First of all I'm not an programmer , but have some experience with locked down motorola's bl's , firmware's ,downgrades and so on..
I'm sure when somebody says impossible, it doesn't really mean impossible, but rather not worthy to some. So in my case I bought the phone few days ago, wasn't fully up to date with infos on unlocking BL so didn't check FW version when buying , just after I checked and phone was updated on MM 1-2 days before buying it. On not unlockable BL phone will become useless to me very soon, while unlocked I would plan to have it for long period of time. It goes in Verzion's favour for me to ditch the phone and buy a new one except I'm not in USA , there are no Verzion services in my country and if there were I would never ever buy (again) anything from Verzion. Well I lived in Japan , and there is network Softbank which is well.. Imagine Verizon but on steroids when it comes to tying people down, locked bootloaders and software, insane fee's and so on.. Well that Softbank bough Verizon some time ago .. I was avoiding them at all cost, but on to the topic now.
DOWNGRADE - fastboot
I would like to invite everybody who is interested in this and who can help to participate in this. Every programmer that has time and can contribute would be greatly appreciated! In return I'm willing to sacrifice my phone and my time , even paying some reasonable donations.
While experimenting in the end I was able to flash all bootloader files from various different versions including all partitions related to it which gets upgraded. Even managed to flash XT1250 MM bootloader. Bootloader version DOES change in bootloader / fastboot ,But it doesn't mean ANYTHING. While downgrading , something else, possibly other parts of bootloader obviously search for match and there is more to it than simple bootloader , more experienced , chime on in here! SElinux enforcing? Verity?
(see attachments)
SU4TL-49 bootloader.img to motoboot flash - Successfully
SU4TL-49 manually flashing 1 by 1:
tz.mbn -[/B] Successfully
SBL1.mbn (bootloader) - [/B] Successfully
sdi.mbn - [/B] Successfully
fsg.mbn to mdm1m9kefs3 - [/B] Successfully
rpm.mbn - [/B] Successfully
emmc_appsboot.mbn to aboot - [/B] Successfully
gpt.bin to "partition" , it's the partitions info partition, people say it can't be downgraded or flashed cross versions. After some experimenting mfastboot failed but fastboot succeded, on some versions mfastboot worked - [/B] Successfully
What I can't get to downgrade / cross flash no mather which bootloader and combinations of firmware im on :
boot.img
recovery.img
system,img (sparse_chunk files)
I will go deeper, but hope that new full firmware SBF will be released soon in case of brick. Verzion is slow. I'm making my own full 6.0.1 xml.zip based on full flashable zip's , repacked system.img sparsechunks, rewrited the script but can't get to flash system files due to invalid signed image. Any help with that? It would also help already bricked guys because who knows when'll Verzion release it..
Downgrade OTA way , stock Android Recovery
While stock android recovery is pretty much useless, it can do software upgrades OTA on a fully stock system , which we on locked bootloaders and MM have.
In my opinion , the way is to trick stock recovery into thinking it's flashing ota, and that whole envieroment is like recovery is expecting it while it's actually flashing downgraded version full / close to full firmware in combination with you flashing some partitions manually through fastboot. OTA's contain only "patch" and just replaces files which get changed on new SW. Or even maybe reverse OTA downgrade?
I've made my own update.zip and signed it , but so far get footer size is wrong error so can't flash it .. Need more help here too..
That looks promising!
Marshmallow feels slower than lollipop for me and I wish I could downgrade but I just can't!
I am looking forward to see what you can do about this issue
Good luck bro!
sorry for my mistake, I do not intend to comment here
@EjđiSixo
How to remove the "signed" of system image or bypass it? Fastboot or RSD are stuck at flashing system image. Does this "sign" relate to boot, recovery, partition? Or it's simply the "sign" to prevent downgrade???
I've never succeeded with partition downgrade...
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when I was flashing the only system.img (3GB), it said that "wrong at header magi". But after a bit time, fastboot separated the file and began to flash. But still failed because of signed image.
I've tried to remove the code from updater-script but it could not write files to system
Not out yet!
Thanks! I think if we all try , we can do it ! For now main focus is downgrading anyhow, even to half working Lollipop just in the purpose of unlocking bootloader with sunshine.
@mr_5kool
Feel free to comment and ask / suggest, thats what this topic is for!
Unforutenately thats the part I haven't yet figured out myself. It is a " permissions" to prevent the downgrade , bootloader and possibly something else checks current version / keys / properly signed image and then flashes. With other bootloader I'm still not able to flash it because it's obviously locked. Motorola probably signs their images differently.
You can't flash 3GB image because when flashing, phone recieve's partition first to ram so max download size is set to 255mb per file. You have to repack system.img to sparse chunks. But you don't have to bother with it , I already repacked system.img which I found at fully stock flashable MCG24.251-5 . It again failed due to invalid signed image . If we could figure out what is exactly signed and how , that would open a lot more possibilities. Possibly even flashing prerooted roms on locked bootloader. There are more possibilities , who knows..
Currently the only thing notices downgrade when flashing is recovery. In bootloader log says I tried to downgrade. Even with downgraded bootloader (kind of, there is sbl2 and sbl3 but they don't get upgraded )
Anyway, I tried something just for the "gags" . Flashed all partitions of XT1250 bootloader. Got to Motorola's site, posted "unlock bootloader data". It returned it's not unlockable of course.. The first sequence of numbers in data is your imei , it starts with 99 and it's verzion's specific imei.
My theory is that motorola ties unlock bootloader data to every phone and imei and stores it in database ( please confirm) . So even with moto maxx bootloader I can't unlock because :
1 it reads my verzion imei
2 it doesn't find alltogether data in the database..
I don't know what are other numbers in the data you get from fastboot, possibly some serial numbers and so on, haven't really checked it .. That's why i think this method is not possible at all for now. Manipulating that data in your phone and running it through motorola's site knowing that exact same code works for some device might be possible, but I think there is really way too much impossible messing involved. If somebody can share more about this?
lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...ficial-marshmallow-build-mcg24-t3512813/page2
I've renamed it like suggested in the post #11
Download link is at 1st page. It's just a OTA.
Yes I just renamed it.
IT DOESN'T WORK WITH ADB AND YOU CAN'T FLASH IT AGAIN THROUGH RECOVERY. ITS OTA.
EDIT: The post that I was responding to has been removed.
The method to downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat is the same with what I've done. It may be possible. Some said that "impossible to downgrade with locked bootloader on vrz". So the system image may be signed with bootloader (or imei, serial or something else, god know).
The unlock method of Sunshine takes place in Trustzone (sbl2). They cannot get unlock code.
You succesfully downgraded LL to KK on droid? There is partition for trust zone alone "tz.mbn" , downgradable without any problem. I only see sbl1 get's upgraded on droid turbo , never saw in any firmware sbl2 or 3 yet.. So I'm little confused.. I remember I saw some PDF regarding that..
Yes, successfully downgraded 5.1 to 4.4.4 on Droid Turbo but with unlocked bootloader. I helped this guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/solved-problem-downgrade-install-ota-t3497791
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/how-to-downgrade-lollipop-5-1-to-kitkat-t3494459
Finally managed to *Brick my devices while trying to make latest sbf firmware (what an irony ) because used some of files from that stupid OTA . Tried flashing all possible firmware I have but it doesn't fix it so system got corrupted probably and for now didn't succed flashing any of the available systems. Flashing MM recovery doesn't help. It's a " recovery loop".
Basically phone starts , vibrates , goes into recovery, it says "erasing" , it does the factory reset then restarts and over and over again erasing restarting loop.
I'll continue exploring downgrade options but top priority now is making working marshmallow sbf or waiting for stupid Verzion to release it already. Just checked with SUA and it still doesn't show repair so firmware isn't available still.
Biggest problem is signed system images which are probably signed by RSA and I need help with that..
I have same problem erasing
Can't flash SU4TL gpt.bin anymore , so success was definitely connected to experiment and steps I did so I'll investigate more.
@EjđiSixo
I have never tried before. My Moto X2013 failed to downgrade from LL to KK, too. So, it's the common problem of Verizon Motorola Devices.
If you have problem with "erasing", just enter recovery by "hold power button for a while then fast press volume up button". Phone will enter recovery and do the factory reset. But when rebooting the system, "erasing" appear again.
If partition is dead, flash the higher version, commonly gpt and tz.
PS: still waiting for the official xml firmware
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, successfully downgraded 5.1 to 4.4.4 on Droid Turbo but with unlocked bootloader. I helped this guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/solved-problem-downgrade-install-ota-t3497791
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/how-to-downgrade-lollipop-5-1-to-kitkat-t3494459
side note, I hate this Q&A format. Not sure why XDA even has it. You can't even format URL links correctly.
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mr_5kool said:
@EjđiSixo
I have never tried before. My Moto X2013 failed to downgrade from LL to KK, too. So, it's the common problem of Verizon Motorola Devices.
If you have problem with "erasing", just enter recovery by "hold power button for a while then fast press volume up button". Phone will enter recovery and do the factory reset. But when rebooting the system, "erasing" appear again.
If partition is dead, flash the higher version, commonly gpt and tz.
PS: still waiting for the official xml firmware
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I wonder if there is any way to force Verizon to release firmware. This is really low of the lowest, it says 1 week after OTA , now it's almost 1 month. Until somebody forces them , it can be months as far as they are considered. No help from developers / programmers either on any of 2 subjects so don't see my method of full MM SBF working.
god know
:v
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, successfully downgraded 5.1 to 4.4.4 on Droid Turbo but with unlocked bootloader. I helped this guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/solved-problem-downgrade-install-ota-t3497791
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/how-to-downgrade-lollipop-5-1-to-kitkat-t3494459
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Exactly brother .
I solved my problem .
I can downgrade from Marshmallow to lollipop is very easy for my ..
But first step is unlocked bootloader from lollipop..
Sent from my XT1254 using XDA Free mobile app
Yeah people , we all know everything can be done with unlocked bootloader. It's a GOD mode. Nothing strange about downgrading with unlocked BL. This topic is for people stuck on locked BL like myself to try to odowngrade on lollipop only in purpose of UNLOCKING BL. So let's for now focus on locked BL's.
So the only thing that has been done with this phone, is that the bootloader has been unlocked, officially with a code from Motorola. No custom recovery, ROM, or anything were installed on it.
I need to re-lock the bootloader so he can return it to warranty as his screen sometimes goes crazy and starts clicking everywhere. So I just download the latest firmware for Vodafone Australia, which I believe is:
XT1572_CLARK_RETASIA_6.0_MPHS24.49-20-8_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml
from:
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto%20X%20Style/Stock/XT1572/
And then follow the commands from this thread in the OP for the XT1575 (*should be the same codes, right?*).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/guide-return-to-stock-relock-bootloader-t3489110
Also one final note, is the firmware I posted above the latest one for vodafone Australia? Just for confirmation, I am not sure, but according to this guide, it belongs to vodafone Australia:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/australian-xt1572-guide-to-restore-t3292794
Qustion is what firmware on phone do you have?
Relock is possible by flashing the same or upper version only. @Blackfyre
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Qustion is what firmware on phone do you have?
Relock is possible by flashing the same or upper version only. @Blackfyre
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In the Bootloader it says:
Baseband: M8992_1255331.29.01.88.07R CLARK_APAC_CUST
Product/Variant: clark XT1572 32GB PC3
In the Phone Settings:
Build Number: NPH25.200-15
Any way to find out exactly if that's the same firmware as in the OP?
EDIT: His phone is running Nougat, I can't find a Nougat ROM for Clark ASIA or APAC (at all) from the link of firmwares above.
Blackfyre said:
In the Bootloader it says:
Baseband: M8992_1255331.29.01.88.07R CLARK_APAC_CUST
Product/Variant: clark XT1572 32GB PC3
In the Phone Settings:
Build Number: NPH25.200-15
Any way to find out exactly if that's the same firmware as in the OP?
EDIT: His phone is running Nougat, I can't find a Nougat ROM for Clark ASIA or APAC (at all) from the link of firmwares above.
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There is no Nougat factory firmware image available, or even the "latest" Marshmallow version. Sorry, but without those it is no possible to lock the booloader. In order to lock the bootloader, you must flash a complete, signed image that is the same or a newer version than what you have.
Remember that relocking the bootloader will NOT remove the Unlocked Bootloader boot splash screen, nor will it hide the device has ever been unlocked (it is still plainly visibile on the bootloader screen and in a getvar all).
TBH, I have doubts we will ever see more factory firmware images... relocking the bootloader will probably never be possible.
@Blackfyre
This is Nougat, no flashable firmware.
Flash modified logo.bin and try warranty repair.
@acejavelin and @dzidexx
Thank you for the replies. I have a few questions.
If I root the device, can I install an old ROM on it, then update to the latest firmware available that is above, then lock OEM?
Would doing that result in Software = Modified? Because currently it's still Unmodified.
Flashing the modified logo.bin you mentioned above I am guessing will remove that warning that shows up at boot stating that the bootloader has been unlocked. Would flashing this .bin file result in Software = Modified or not?
And if not, then where can I find this modified logo.bin?
Thank you guys again for your help and replies.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...e-unlocked-bootloader-warning-t3201141/page22
fastboot flash logo NameOfFile.bin
If after flashing still will be unmodified you can try relock:
fastboot oem lock begin
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock @Blackfyre
dzidexx said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...e-unlocked-bootloader-warning-t3201141/page22
fastboot flash logo NameOfFile.bin
If after flashing still will be unmodified you can try relock:
fastboot oem lock begin
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock @Blackfyre
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Does that work though without flashing full firmware images?
quakeaz said:
Does that work though without flashing full firmware images?
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No, you must flash a full, signed image... In some newer Moto devices you can get by with flashing only the signed system sparce_chunks and wiping data, in 3rd gen and older devices flashing a full signed image, even if already stock, is required.
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No, you must flash a full, signed image... In some newer Moto devices you can get by with flashing only the signed system sparce_chunks and wiping data, in 3rd gen and older devices flashing a full signed image, even if already stock, is required.
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Previous post - It was only my hope.
In Europe, Moto/Lenovo can not refuse to repair the components for two years.
dzidexx said:
Previous post - It was only my hope.
In Europe, Moto/Lenovo can not refuse to repair the components for two years.
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Eh... Yeah, they can and do, often saying that what was done while unlocked is the cause of the problem... And then you have to fight it, by the time it's all said and done many people just give up as the process can take many months.
Hello to this amazing community,
I have recently tried for the first time to root my device.
Being unaware of the XDA community, I used this guy's guide - https://theunlockr.com/2016/11/29/root-motorola-moto-g4-moto-g4-plus/ .
As I went through the steps of unlocking, booting TWRP and installing superSU, I found out that the device won't start anymore, though the bootloader was still working at that point.
Unfortunately, that guide didn't emphasized the importance of first backing-up the system with TWRP.
Panicking, I even ended up wiping the entire device.
So I started my sisyphic journey of reviving the phone.
Being clueless of OEM stock versions etc. at this point, I thought that I should look for a fresh TWRP backup someone did after purchasing my exact Moto G4 Plus model - XT1644 so I ended up recovering the version that this dear guy has uploaded:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1644-stock-unmodified-6-t3536448
Happy as I was that the machine would finally start, I found out I was running an old Marshmallow version - exactly as the title says.
Still, I assumed that new OTA versions will be available and my device will be upgraded to the most up-to-date version.
Surprisingly for a rookie as me, checking for software updates showed " Your device's software is up to date".
So I search for a more up-do-date OEM stock version, and I have found the following version - NPJS25.93-14-13 here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
I ran the bash file to flash the OEM while keeping the device unlocked.
The device has loaded finally with the familiar up-to-date version, and an available OTA update appeared.
I immediately ran the update.
That's when I first became familiar with the term "Brick". The device became completely dead.
Now, thanks to siddhesh9146 inceredible thread I managed to revive the device:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-hardbrick-solved-guide-t3657761
I went through his steps, installed BlankFlash, flashed the latest gpt and bootloader and flashed version NPJS25.93-14-10.
The device will finally work! I would realize then, that the latest version is actually ATHENE_NPJS25.93-14-13 ,
And again, the device won't show any updates available.
So, finally, here are my questions:
1. What could I have done wrong in first place? Was it a wrong superSU version that caused the problem? (In case my rooting aspirations will return)
2. What caused the device to turn brick? I realize it has to do with downgrading version, but after I wiped the device, I only upgraded versions.
3. In general, when OTA are available? Only the newest stock version would receive OTA? Will I have to manually upgrade versions from now on?
4. Could I upgrade now to NPJS25.93-14-13 using the version that siddhesh9146 presented without wiping my entire phone? What exactly should I flash to do so?
5. What are the precautions I have to take while doing so? Is there a risk my phone will tun brick again?
Thanks!
Good to hear your device is working again, seems like it's been through a journey.
1)When you originally rooted, were you on stock Nougat (7.0)? If so, those rooting guides will not work and are likely for Marshmallow 6.0 systems only. What they fail to mention is that attempting to root whilst still on the stock Motorola Nougat kernel likely causes your device to not boot. The Nougat 7.0 stock kernel for our devices seems to be much stricter than the Marshmallow kernel when it comes to anti-rooting protections. Thus, we generally need to flash a custom kernel onto our devices before rooting - either with SuperSU or magisk. An example of a working guide for rooting on stock Nougat Moto G4/Plus is here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918
2)Do you remember what the OTA you received was? I don't think there's an OTA for a build later than NPJS25.93-14-13 out yet. That suggests that the NPJS25.93-14-13 flash didn't work - did you check if the bash script reported [OKAY] after each command? By brick, do you mean the device had a blinking LED light, and there was no screen, and you were unable to boot to the bootloader and/or recovery? If the flash didn't work, then you may have taken a Marshmallow to Nougat OTA (NPJ25.93-14) which may have corrupted your device bootloader in the process.
3)OTAs are generally available for a particular build and for a particular software channel when they are released. For NPJS25.93-14-13, that's currently the latest build for EU/UK, Brazil and India devices, and there's word that there's a February 2018 OTA coming soon (no sign of it yet).
However, for your device (XT1644), if you are on the retUS - retail US - software channel, your device is on a different update path - NPJ25.93-14.7 would be the corresponding September 2017 patch for retUS software channel devices. NPJS25.93-14-10 is not one of the builds deployed to the retUS, and as such the Motorola servers may not issue you an OTA patch, regardless of whether the firmware would work. There have been reports of NPJS25.93-14-10 and NPJS25.93-14-13 working on US devices without issue, but you may not receive OTA updates.
You could manually update to NPJS25.93-14-13 using the OTA here, provided that you fully flashed the NPJS25.93-14-10 stock ROM (including GPT and bootloader, system, modem, boot, recovery, OEM, DSP, FSG). If you did not fully flash, you may be risking another hardbrick. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74973505&postcount=7
4)If you want to flash the NPJS25.93-14-13 stock ROM to be safe, or attempt to cross flash to the Sept 2017 NPJ25.93-14.7 firmware without wiping your data, you can use the following flashing commands. Be warned that you may have to factory reset if your device becomes unstable, so backup anyway. I would recommend manually flashing these commands:
a)copy and paste the first command to the ADB terminal
b)press enter, wait for [OKAY] to appear.
c) copy the next command, individually and in order, to the terminal, repeat b) and c) until you get to the end of the list.
Code:
fastboot flash partition gpt.bin
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
fastboot flash logo logo.bin
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash dsp adspso.bin
fastboot flash oem oem.img
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.0
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.1
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.2
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.3
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.4
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.5
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.6
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk.7
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot
These commands omit the fastboot erase userdata, preserving your data, and omit the OEM locking commands, which would lock your bootloader and erase your data in the process as well. Bear in mind that cross flashing can be risky, however, you may have to flash the NPJ25.93-14.7 update if you wish to receive OTA updates for the retUS software channel, if you are on that software channel. Link for the NPJ25.93-14.7 stock firmware if you wish to try: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617945295
5)Generally, the main source of hard bricks I've noted has been users have been on stock Nougat (particularly the March 2017-latest) builds. They downgrade their device to stock Marshmallow firmware, which goes okay. However, in most - if not all - cases, their bootloaders are not downgraded, so you have a system and bootloader mismatch, with a newer Nougat bootloader but an older system than their bootloader patch level. For example, a B1:06 June 2017 patch level bootloader but a July 2016 Marshmallow system patch level.
The OTA checks that are performed are mainly on the system side i.e is your device on the July 2016 system patch? Are your system, OEM, recovery, boot etc. partitions unmodified and match the expected checksums for this OTA patch? If so, then install. However, in the updater script, there is no such check for the bootloader - the OTA updates appear to assume your bootloader is of the same patch level as your system. Normally, for a locked bootloader or for a user that has only updated their device, that assumption holds.
The issue we have here is that the system was downgraded to Marshmallow, so that assumption no longer holds. As the OTA updates are signed by Motorola, they have authorisation to write to your bootloader. That means this OTA can overwrite your bootloader, and if it's applying older code, can corrupt your newer Nougat bootloader and thus hard brick your device, which necessitates a blankflash to repair.
In other words, if you downgrade your device firmware, do not use or install OTA updates. If you do downgrade, only update with stock firmware that is as new or newer than your bootloader patch level. If your device is on the same patch level , then you should be able to use OTA updates. However as mentioned above, you need to be on the correct build for your device software channel as well to receive OTA updates from Motorola.
I had hardbricked my devices while installing an OTA update and the device was Hardbricked .
I blank flashed the device and it booted and bootloader.
Now the problem starts here.
I flashed the OEM_Lock.bat as I wanted to relock the bootloader. I'm not sure what went wrong but the flash didn't complete and stuck in middle.
The problem remains here is it shows
Fastboot Reason: Failed to initialize partition table
I am unable to flash anything now. Recovery.img fails, bootloader.img fails, twrp flashing fails.
Nothing flashes as Bootloader is locked.
I went to Motorola Service Centre. They also couldn't do anything and simply said that their software doesnt read the phone.
Is there anyone whoe can really help me out with anything left to do?
Any method to force flash recovery, even twrp?
Phone is detected as Fastboot athene_16mp S in computer. It doesnt detect as "Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008".
What firmware are you attempting to flash?
Your device looks like it's still on the blank flash provided bootloader, which means you have to flash at least the GPT and bootloader. The lack of a serial number and the generic identifier implies you have not been able to flash an actual GPT and bootloader. Also, OEM_locked is normal until you get an actual bootloader flashed over the blank flash bootloader, which usually means trying to flash a GPT and bootloader at least as new as the latest version you had on your device (regardless of downgrades).
I'd suggest downloading the latest Nougat stock ROM we have from here. Do not use any of the scripts at this time.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
Unzip the file, delete any old stock ROMs from your ADB folder and copy over the new stock ROM. Try to flash just the GPT and bootloader then reboot to fastboot. See if you reboot into a fastboot screen with details.
If you do, I would proceed to flash the rest of the new ROM without locking your bootloader. If your device boots then, then you can reflash with the locking commands.
Edit - also, this post probably is better suited to the Q and A section...
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What firmware are you attempting to flash?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
Unzip the file, delete any old stock ROMs from your ADB folder and copy over the new stock ROM. Try to flash just the GPT and bootloader then reboot to fastboot. See if you reboot into a fastboot screen with details.
If you do, I would proceed to flash the rest of the new ROM without locking your bootloader. If your device boots then, then you can reflash with the locking commands.
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The files in mentioned firmware did the trick. It flashed GPT and Bootloader and showed the needed info.:highfive: After that I flashed the same firmware via fastboot commands and device has booted to the stock 7.0 - Bootloader Unlocked. How crazy was I to ignore the proper files to flash? I probably tried 100 times to flash files (wrong once for sure). Thanks alot though for providing the link and instructions. :silly:
Now one last thing, should I flash OEM_Lock file to lock the bootloader so that I can get the lastest Oreo update? I might even think fo selling the device after locking the bootloader. Need your genuine opinion on this as well.
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The files in mentioned firmware did the trick. It flashed GPT and Bootloader and showed the needed info.:highfive: After that I flashed the same firmware via fastboot commands and device has booted to the stock 7.0 - Bootloader Unlocked. How crazy was I to ignore the proper files to flash? I probably tried 100 times to flash files (wrong once for sure). Thanks alot though for providing the link and instructions. :silly:
Now one last thing, should I flash OEM_Lock file to lock the bootloader so that I can get the lastest Oreo update? I might even think fo selling the device after locking the bootloader. Need your genuine opinion on this as well.
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Eh, you live and learn. Besides, you've now got your device running now!
Honestly, it's up to you. Having a locked or unlocked bootloader will not affect your ability to receive OTA updates - you should still receive updates so long as your firmware matches your software channel (and since your device was XT1643, the NPJS25.93-14-18 April 2018 security update should be the correct firmware). At this moment in time, you'll have to use the NPJS25.93-14-18 firmware to re-lock your bootloader - we don't have the stock Oreo firmware at this time. Thus, if you update to stock Oreo, you will not be able to re-lock your bootloader until you can get a leak of the Oreo firmware.
If you're selling, I'd choose to re-lock the bootloader. Else, a potential buyer who is not used to flashing custom ROMs might wonder if there's any tampering with the device (the bootloader unlocked warning, to someone not used to flashing custom firmware, might scare off potential buyers).
Back to Locked Bootloader, complete stock.
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Eh, you live and learn. Besides, you've now got your device running now!
If you're selling, I'd choose to re-lock the bootloader. Else, a potential buyer who is not used to flashing custom ROMs might wonder if there's any tampering with the device (the bootloader unlocked warning, to someone not used to flashing custom firmware, might scare off potential buyers).
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I am back to Locked Bootloader as feel the same as you said that anyone buying might get scared by looking the warning sign. Thanks for helping out. :highfive:
Oreo Update via OTA has already started rolling out as per the news I've been reading. I just wanted to see the oreo 8.1 before I sell the phone.
Anyways I got a new device now, Realme C1, 3|32GB as my smartphone usage has declined a lot recently and might remain similar. This device will suffice my requirements.
Thanks for the help and support. :victory: