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Are you happy with your G2's ?

Hello, I apologize if the thread alredy exist! I did search!
So coming from far kingdom of 4X HD I want to to know if you owners of the G2 are happy with this phone
What are the common issues you really faced, I did read some blogs with common issues but i believe here the people who really have experiance with the device can give me more accurate info.
I am aiming for the D802 model non carrier branded open europe region.
Also i will not flash any roms and kernels and mods to it.
My 4x HD fits perfectly to my needs but it has some issues with it like bad build quality some plastic parts around the sides of the device are coming off. It has overheating issues. Its power button keeps dirt and its not responsive. So does the G2 come with such issues ?

I have it 10 days now, and wish I didn't bought it actually.
had issues with data connection on 3G/4G when it was on 4.2.2, now on 4.4.2 seems that is corrected
Next thing that irritate me is when you're in browser it doesn't react well when you scrolling, you need do realase fingers two times for every scroll. Tried in various browser on both JB and KK, and it is same
Next, on the sun, screen is barely readible
Next, sound is really crap, you can forgot to speak via speakerfon, and music is terribly bad produced via speakers
Camera, it sucks at low light
Web browsing, S4 and i5 are FASTER, we done side by side test
Also connecting to wifi is at least 4 times slower than my ex i5, my wifes S3
Placing of volume keys are really retarded
If you buy 16GB version, you will actually have less than 9GB free. I'm so mad on this, and you cannot put SD card.
I have 6GB pictures from my ex i5, putted Navigon, and almost no space left. I had lots of Android phones till now, but this G2 is worst ever. For the first time I was unable to keep NAND backup on the phone, few ROMs, and pictures, navigation,... you name it.
It looks very cheap too.

jucca said:
I have it 10 days now, and wish I didn't bought it actually.
had issues with data connection on 3G/4G when it was on 4.2.2, now on 4.4.2 seems that is corrected
Next thing that irritate me is when you're in browser it doesn't react well when you scrolling, you need do realase fingers two times for every scroll. Tried in various browser on both JB and KK, and it is same
Next, on the sun, screen is barely readible
Next, sound is really crap, you can forgot to speak via speakerfon, and music is terribly bad produced via speakers
Camera, it sucks at low light
Web browsing, S4 and i5 are FASTER, we done side by side test
Also connecting to wifi is at least 4 times slower than my ex i5, my wifes S3
Placing of volume keys are really retarded
If you buy 16GB version, you will actually have less than 9GB free. I'm so mad on this, and you cannot put SD card.
I have 6GB pictures from my ex i5, putted Navigon, and almost no space left. I had lots of Android phones till now, but this G2 is worst ever. For the first time I was unable to keep NAND backup on the phone, few ROMs, and pictures, navigation,... you name it.
It looks very cheap too.
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Sell it, then
I'm really happy with mine, coming form an HTC One, the only thing i missed is the stereo audio
The rest, is superior in G2, battery life is spectacular, awesome camera, wonderful screen!

erto90 said:
Sell it, then
I'm really happy with mine, coming form an HTC One, the only thing i missed is the stereo audio
The rest, is superior in G2, battery life is spectacular, awesome camera, wonderful screen!
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Happy as hell after recently using s4, note2, htc one(built quality and audio was awesome) and Htc butterfly.
Doesnt looks cheaper than Galaxy series.

This is me

erto90 said:
Sell it, then
I'm really happy with mine, coming form an HTC One, the only thing i missed is the stereo audio
The rest, is superior in G2, battery life is spectacular, awesome camera, wonderful screen!
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Agree, screen is really godd, but in indoors
Batery life is great, can't and I didn't complained about that.

jucca said:
Agree, screen is really godd, but in indoors
Batery life is great, can't and I didn't complained about that.
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Outdoor screen is just OK, but is like all the others..

erto90 said:
Outdoor screen is just OK, but is like all the others..
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Not true. i5 has miles better screen in outdoor.

jucca said:
Not true. i5 has miles better screen in outdoor.
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never tried iphones, never liked them, so can't say if that's true or not
but for android devices, g2 is just like all the others top gamma outdoor

erto90 said:
never tried iphones, never liked them, so can't say if that's true or not
but for android devices, g2 is just like all the others top gamma outdoor
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You have to beleive me. If I have to read something on a sunny day with a G2, need to cover screen to be readable. Never done this with an i5
I have to keep brightness at almost 100% at all the time, never needed to keep it so high on any phone till now.

I don't have that much trouble. I use lux, so I automatically get the best brightness for legibility.
Sent from my LG-D802

I'm really happy with my G2. Coming from a Galaxy S4, the battery life is stellar, the stock-based roms are awesome and I must say I don't regret the "stock" CM/AOSP experience with this phone.
For camera, stock is just OK but with the available mods it becomes very good. Granted, it's not the best one can find but it's definitely great for a point-and-shoot use.
Screen wise, I've never been much bothered with the sun so far. My experience is same or better than with the SGS4.
Performance overall is very good and I hardly find any activity where I'm dissatisfied with it. Often the lags and stutters are more caused by the app as I had experienced the same with my S4.
Buttons placement is actually good when you need to adjust during a call. Otherwise it may not be the most intuitive but you get just used to it and it becomes natural.
Knock on feature is awesome. Can't wait for knock code (d801 here...)
Call quality is very good, no complains on that front.
Speaker quality, well for Skyping it's good and loud enough, and I don't understand people listening to music through their phone speakers anyway. When it's in public I want to slap them and in private you gotta have crappy hears to listen to music on ANY phone that way anyway. When you buy a high-end, high-dollars phone you get a dock or BT speakers.
I certainly don't regret the switch!
Sent from my K00C using Tapatalk

Ouch i am impressed how large the community of the G2 it is!
I missed ot ask something... Since the 4X is the 3rd LG device i used i had an 2x long time ago also used optimus G it wasnt mine
And i noticed that on software side there are some issues. On the stock 4.1.2 of the 4x it takes up to +/- 5secs. to open dialer app then a lot of lag
After using it for about week or two it becomes almost unuseable. And the features LG merged on the 4.1.2 to prevent 4x from cathing fire were the most stupid thing they could do... 10 mins of internet or smth that uses more CPU... and brightness drop to 70% then more 10 mins and drops to 50% and you are not able to brighten it up till gets cool again....

Came from iphone 4s and am extremely happy I made the switch. I'm definitely in love with this phone. The screen size is perfect for me and the display is very nice. I also enjoy the really slim bezels and I like the back buttons( hope I'm not the only one lol).
Also enjoy flashing custom ROMs
Sent from my LG-VS980

I'm quite happy with my experience with the LG G2 thus far. I agree that sunlight legibility is not the best, but it is still not that bad. I hardly use my phone outside anyway. The only thing I don't really like is the glossy enclosure. I wish LG used the soft rubber that it used for the Nexus 5.
Oh, and it helps that the development for our phone is active. I get just the experience I want with all the ROMs, kernels and Xposed modules available out there.
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

jucca said:
I have it 10 days now, and wish I didn't bought it actually.
had issues with data connection on 3G/4G when it was on 4.2.2, now on 4.4.2 seems that is corrected
Next thing that irritate me is when you're in browser it doesn't react well when you scrolling, you need do realase fingers two times for every scroll. Tried in various browser on both JB and KK, and it is same
Next, on the sun, screen is barely readible
Next, sound is really crap, you can forgot to speak via speakerfon, and music is terribly bad produced via speakers
Camera, it sucks at low light
Web browsing, S4 and i5 are FASTER, we done side by side test
Also connecting to wifi is at least 4 times slower than my ex i5, my wifes S3
Placing of volume keys are really retarded
If you buy 16GB version, you will actually have less than 9GB free. I'm so mad on this, and you cannot put SD card.
I have 6GB pictures from my ex i5, putted Navigon, and almost no space left. I had lots of Android phones till now, but this G2 is worst ever. For the first time I was unable to keep NAND backup on the phone, few ROMs, and pictures, navigation,... you name it.
It looks very cheap too.
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from what i read here 9Gb are not really enough for you... and you were happier with your i5...
oadam11 said:
Came from iphone 4s and am extremely happy I made the switch. I'm definitely in love with this phone. The screen size is perfect for me and the display is very nice. I also enjoy the really slim bezels and I like the back buttons( hope I'm not the only one lol).
Also enjoy flashing custom ROMs
Sent from my LG-VS980
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Nice i am happy to hear possitive comments about this phone its nice.

Preordered the HTC 10, But Also looking at the s7e What to do?

Hi everyone. I apologize if this type of post is not allowed. I have been mulling over the s7e SNAPDRAGON and the HTC 10 for the past 2 weeks. Id buy the s7e on swappa so price is the same.
The biggest things for me are software feel, camera, and battery. I like stock android alot. So the htc 10 looks sweet. But then theres samsungs theme engine. Now Im coming from and S4 so theming was light if any. What I'm seeing from the s7e blows my mind. The only reason I used to room my s4 was for different themes so no root on the 820 doesnt bother me especially with the new theme engine. The fact it themes everything is amazing. Not sure if the HTC 10 does this or not but with stock android look its not as important but it would be nice to change it up every once in a while.
The camera on both of these phones look amazing. Expecially the low light. I know the s7e is a little better in low light but its not a huge enough difference to completely be the deciding factor for me. The focus speed on the s7e looks absolutely insane. I do like the over saturated look of the pics on the s7e but not the yellowish tint. Video also looks very stable and not shakey. The htc 10 looks to be on par with video.
Battery life looks like something the s7e beats the 10 easily. Ive seen the 10 get anywhere from 4-5 sot. The s7e 820 seems to get above 5 hrs sot? right? anyone chime in on this. On reddit and the forums its hard to tell sometimes if its exynos or 820.
Does the s7e ever get hot or warm to the touch? my s4 feels like a burning rock in my pocket sometimes lol. Hows tw lag? is it alot better than it used to be? or is it just good out of the box then it shows up again?
Speaker quality isnt a huge deal as all i watch are youtube videos or plug my phone into my car.
Updates are another thing that bothers me also. HTC has a very good record of updating phones fast. Samsung not so much. Well more so the carriers. The htc 10 i have preordered is unlocked. The S7e Id get is Tmobile variant. Id try to get exynos but Id like to get a phone with the manufactures warranty. Also hear the exynos is hard to get repaired as Samsung doesnt like to repair it in the USA.
The whole usb c vs micro doesnt bother me much but I do like that C seems to be more sturdy and durable.
so what doesnt everyone think I should do? Whats your experience compared to what Ive heard? Are my thots right? to servere? am I way off? All imput is welcome Anyone here in the same position or leaving the s7e for the 10? or just decided on the s7e over the 10 and why?
Thanks guys! :fingers-crossed::good::good:

S7 Edge Pros:
- Bigger screen at the same size (which is a really big deal)
- As far as camera and battery goes, I think the S7 Edge has a clear edge Dual-pixel tech in a smartphone is a very big deal, Canon still saves this technology for their very best cameras.
- Battery - 3600 vs 3000 mAh - enough said.
- Screen efficiency - AMOLED vs TFT (that's why you get great SOT on the S7 Edge, but poor standby times on the SD820)
- Wireless charging if you want to protect your USB port over time.
- Much better technical support if you need it (hopefully not). Much better country presence.
- If the Always-On Display will ever be upgraded to display all notifications (not only missed calls and SMS messages) this will be a huge pro
HTC 10 Pros:
- Always-on fingerprint sensor. The fingerprint sensor needs home button press to work on the S7, which is stupid in 2016. It should be always-on. So I have it disabled, if it would be touch-only I would enable it.
- Speakers (but I don't care for this).

Cst79 said:
S7 Edge Pros:
- Bigger screen at the same size (which is a really big deal)
- As far as camera and battery goes, I think the S7 Edge has a clear edge Dual-pixel tech in a smartphone is a very big deal, Canon still saves this technology for their very best cameras.
- Battery - 3600 vs 3000 mAh - enough said.
- Screen efficiency - AMOLED vs TFT (that's why you get great SOT on the S7 Edge, but poor standby times on the SD820)
- Wireless charging if you want to protect your USB port over time.
- Much better technical support if you need it (hopefully not). Much better country presence.
- If the Always-On Display will ever be upgraded to display all notifications (not only missed calls and SMS messages) this will be a huge pro
HTC 10 Pros:
- Always-on fingerprint sensor. The fingerprint sensor needs home button press to work on the S7, which is stupid in 2016. It should be always-on. So I have it disabled, if it would be touch-only I would enable it.
- Speakers (but I don't care for this).
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thanks for the reply How has ur experience been with touchwiz? Any lag? do you have the sd820? what sot do you usually get? Screen size isnt a huge deal for me .3 inches. Id rather have the battery life instead of AOD. Im not sure if id use wireless charging. The extra charging option would be nice incase but i always worry that the battery degrades faster over time with wireless charging. Having to clock the fingerprint home button is a negative for me. My s4 made an annoying crunch sounds when it was click. Its it a more shallow click now? Same for me I dont care really about speakers so there moot on the 10. Also for me its sense ui and faster updates vs Touchwiz and slow updates.

aknotts415 said:
thanks for the reply How has ur experience been with touchwiz? Any lag? do you have the sd820? what sot do you usually get? Screen size isnt a huge deal for me .3 inches. Id rather have the battery life instead of AOD. Im not sure if id use wireless charging. The extra charging option would be nice incase but i always worry that the battery degrades faster over time with wireless charging. Having to clock the fingerprint home button is a negative for me. My s4 made an annoying crunch sounds when it was click. Its it a more shallow click now? Same for me I dont care really about speakers so there moot on the 10. Also for me its sense ui and faster updates vs Touchwiz and slow updates.
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I have the Exynos.
I never hated TouchWiz and I think it is ok, no lag whatsoever, but I use Nova Launcher solely because I need double-tap to sleep. But I do have a dark theme set overall and it's great. Theming is a major plus.
The difference in screen size is big, around 20% in surface area. I had a 5.2" LG G2 and it's very noticeable.
The button clicking sound is bad enough and the press is not shallow. Home button is also raised (stupidly, should be sunken) and it could click in your pocket if you don't have a proper case. But I found a workaround, I hold the phone in the front pocket with the upper part down, this almost eliminates the issue.
About the updates, I don't really care, because it works really well as it is (except for the last update which ruined battery life for Exynos and made it similar to SD820). However, for the record, the International version received like 3-4 updates since launch, each brought something new (some good things, some really bad things).

Coming from someone who ended up hating touch wiz, I really dig it this time around. It's so much closer to stock and cleaner. They did good with it this time. I'm also coming from the HTC One M7 and M8, and I have zero interest in the 10.
The camera in the S7 blows away the HTC. I've seen a lot of screenshots of the HTC, and that and the S7 next to each other, and the HTC is actually fairly grainy. Pretty unacceptable, especially the last 4 phones, new one included having a bad camera. The S7 pictures are incredibly clear, the best I have seen on a phone personally. And the low-light is crazy.
The speaker on the S7 is actually very loud and fairly clear.
The screen size is much better on the S7 Edge. Plus the phone is almost the same size, another thing I hated about the HTC phones, they waste sooo much space on the phone.
The Edge places app is pretty convenient. It sets different settings on your phone based on location and/or WiFi/Bluetooth. Works great for me since I always forget to silence my phone when I get to work.
Can't say much about battery life in comparison since I have not read any real, long-term reviews on the HTC. But my S7 Edge gets nearly two full days in between charges on the regular.
Updates... I don't agree with you there regarding HTC. I have NEVER gotten an Android update within their 90 day BS. And that seems to be solely for new Android versions. Any updates to Android seem to either come way later than that, or never. My One M8 updated to Lollipop in March '15, then didn't get another update until December-which was not to fix anything, just Stagefright. And Lollipop did NOT work well at all, and HTC left us behind and wouldn't fix anything that was broken. That's where they really lost me.
Anyway, my $0.02

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Coming from someone who ended up hating touch wiz, I really dig it this time around. It's so much closer to stock and cleaner. They did good with it this time. I'm also coming from the HTC One M7 and M8, and I have zero interest in the 10.
The camera in the S7 blows away the HTC. I've seen a lot of screenshots of the HTC, and that and the S7 next to each other, and the HTC is actually fairly grainy. Pretty unacceptable, especially the last 4 phones, new one included having a bad camera. The S7 pictures are incredibly clear, the best I have seen on a phone personally. And the low-light is crazy.
The speaker on the S7 is actually very loud and fairly clear.
The screen size is much better on the S7 Edge. Plus the phone is almost the same size, another thing I hated about the HTC phones, they waste sooo much space on the phone.
The Edge places app is pretty convenient. It sets different settings on your phone based on location and/or WiFi/Bluetooth. Works great for me since I always forget to silence my phone when I get to work.
Can't say much about battery life in comparison since I have not read any real, long-term reviews on the HTC. But my S7 Edge gets nearly two full days in between charges on the regular.
Updates... I don't agree with you there regarding HTC. I have NEVER gotten an Android update within their 90 day BS. And that seems to be solely for new Android versions. Any updates to Android seem to either come way later than that, or never. My One M8 updated to Lollipop in March '15, then didn't get another update until December-which was not to fix anything, just Stagefright. And Lollipop did NOT work well at all, and HTC left us behind and wouldn't fix anything that was broken. That's where they really lost me.
Anyway, my $0.02
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Hmm thanks for the reply. Means alot coming from a former HTC fan. What other reasons made you not continue with them?

aknotts415 said:
Hmm thanks for the reply. Means alot coming from a former HTC fan. What other reasons made you not continue with them?
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Well, their lack of doing something new for one. The M7 I think looked the best and was the best size. The 8 just got larger without much added to screen size. The camera was really bad. And this new one seems more of the same to me. All they did was chamfered the back, otherwise is identical to the M8 and M9, then they changed the front to look just like every other Android phone now, except the top and bottom bars are obnoxiously big.
Honestly, the biggest is definitely them leaving us in the dark with updates and letting our phones go on not working right indefinitely. You just can't decide to stop supporting your phones and customers if you want to stay in business. The M8 didn't even need the latest Android, it just needed HTC software fixes to make it work, but those never happened...
Anyway, to each their own. The 10 may be a bada$$ phone. I'm just really loving this Edge.

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Well, their lack of doing something new for one. The M7 I think looked the best and was the best size. The 8 just got larger without much added to screen size. The camera was really bad. And this new one seems more of the same to me. All they did was chamfered the back, otherwise is identical to the M8 and M9, then they changed the front to look just like every other Android phone now, except the top and bottom bars are obnoxiously big.
Honestly, the biggest is definitely them leaving us in the dark with updates and letting our phones go on not working right indefinitely. You just can't decide to stop supporting your phones and customers if you want to stay in business. The M8 didn't even need the latest Android, it just needed HTC software fixes to make it work, but those never happened...
Anyway, to each their own. The 10 may be a bada$$ phone. I'm just really loving this Edge.
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Awesome to hear. Maybe I will cancel and get the edge. Do you have snapdragon 820 or exynos? hows battery life?

aknotts415 said:
Awesome to hear. Maybe I will cancel and get the edge. Do you have snapdragon 820 or exynos? hows battery life?
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Snapdragon for Verizon. I had to meddle with the settings a bit, but I get nearly two full days every charge. I'm a fairly moderate user though, not really any gaming, just a lot of email (work), fitness stuff, and Facebook/LinkedIn/etc.

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Snapdragon for Verizon. I had to meddle with the settings a bit, but I get nearly two full days every charge. I'm a fairly moderate user though, not really any gaming, just a lot of email (work), fitness stuff, and Facebook/LinkedIn/etc.
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Sounds like me lol reddit email twitter youtube. Do you know how many hours of SOT you get? Ill be getting the tmobile snapdragon one

Honestly, just go to a store and play with each of them. Of course it's always personal preference.

S7E.
Why?
3600mah vs 3000mah
5'5 vs 5'2 display
Look of the s7e to me is nicer.

posting on the S7E thread, i guess you will get more positive for the S7E than the 10?
that being said, S7E for me. best phone i have owned.

Same. ?

If you want ROMs, root, and Xposed get the 10 or Exynos S7 edge.

If you were thinking s7 or m10 I'd probably say m10 but we have the edge and this phone is the best you can get, so I'd say S7 Edge no question.
Sent from my Gold S7 Edge

personal preference really
if size doesn't matter then HTC 10.
Speaker Sound HTC
Software HTC 10 (closer to stock)
Look Design S7E
XDA Development and support HTC 10
Camera Video S7E
Practical daily use HTC 10
Waterproof S7E
Due to HTC being only 5.2 i've gone with S7E bigger screen but i still hate TW.

Anyone feeling a bit let down? V20 review

I am trying to convince myself that I am wrong or somehow biased, but I don't think I am in this situation. I am a phone junkie and I bounce between devices quickly. In the last 6 months I have had the Axon 7, HTC 10 (still have, S-off'd with Unlocked GSM firmware/ software), Nexus 6P, HTC M9, s7 edge, s6 edge+, iphone 7 plus, Droid Turbo, and now the V20. I will say that over all, the V20 is built beautifully and performs well. The battery life is a bit weaker than I was hoping, just like the HTC 10, the quick charge 3.0 almost covers that short coming. The things that are making me disappointed though are as follows:
LG Skin / UI : Feels a little off, made up a bit by using Nova launcher, but everyone knows it won't remove it all...
Performance: I might be expecting a bit much, but I have had my device slow down (to unbearable lag / waiting on apps to switch/come up) more than a handful of times requiring a reboot
Battery Life: As stated above, the battery life is pretty week and I find myself having to top up a towards 6 pm, it does charge quickly, but find that a little sad.
Camera: This is where I am shocked. The camera overall doesn't live up to what I expected or how it was advertised. In ideal situations, it can take good photos, and I mean GOOD, not Great. If you don't switch to manual and tweak everything out, you will be sadly disappointed. Auto focus has a hard time locking in, can get a bit of grain / noise, and if there is movement or action, good luck. In video mode or if you flip into manual mode, you can get much better results, but in the heat of the moment, not everyone will be quick to get it ready in time to get that shot. In low light situations, it has been very disappointing. The lag time between the flash / focus and getting a picture off, I end up with a blurry out of focus picture most of the time. I am basing this off pictures I take of my young daughter. The camera on the HTC 10, Axon 7, iPhone 7 plus, S7 edge, and S6 edge+ all out perform in these situations. For a phone/device that is supposed to be built around photography and video, it has been a major disappointment. the Main camera/sensor is decent, but the zoom/cropped area is a bit small. The wide angle does cover a lot more at the cost of resolution. I am hoping that LG does something to address this in software/firmware updates, but as of now, it is a huge let down.
Audio: The single firing speaker does an admirable job for playing music, speaker phone on the other hand is a somewhat weak and sometimes hard to hear, even when driving in silent vehicle with the windows closed. The Quad DAC has also let me down. After the DAC in the Axon 7 and the HTC 10, I am not impressed. It does improve the audio, but not as well as the competition. With the DAC enabled and audio all the way up, the volume level is weak. With the same headphones that I used in the Axon 7 and the HTC 10, I have no problem hearing the outside noise. I also don't feel that it is nearly as tweakable / noticeable as the HTC 10. When I had the DAC on the HTC 10 on, I could immediately tell the difference and the Highs, Mids, and Lows were way easier to notice / spot changes on. Again, maybe software updates may resolve this, but definitely a let down for me.
Overall: The phone is beautiful. For a phone with removable battery, it honestly feels like a unibody device. I am a bit disappointed in all phone manufacturers currently going to this 2.5D curved glass for no good reason, making getting tempered glass protectors a joke majority of the time. The software overall is fairly smooth. The screen is above average and the secondary screen has become second nature to me. Being able to snap a wide angle shot when others can't definitely something that has lead to people asking me what phone I am using. Had I not gone through all the phones I have in the last 6 months, I may have been way more impressed. As a flagship device, I will say it comes close to delivering what was promised. Had the Note 7 not failed miserably with the exploding issue, I think the V20 would have easily been eclipsed. This phone gets so close in many departments, but doesn't quite nail them down. Considering there is nothing else in the market that draws my attention, I will try and see if it makes it through the initial growing pains that might be solved with software updates.
Before anyone wants to say I forgot about the Pixel, no, I didn't. After having the HTC 10 (which I still have and love as a backup device) and playing with the Pixel, I see absolutely no reason to waste the money on the sad excuse of a flagship device at the same taxing price as an apple product. How google basically took the HTC 10, made it ugly , went with onscreen buttons and a whole lot of bezel, and took away removable storage but is still succeeding with it is beyond me. Yes it has an "amazing camera", assistant (you can get with root on the v20 and nexus 6p), and can charge the battery super fast, but the price tag and lack of innovation is a deal breaker.
So, please, let me know if you agree or disagree. I have been trying to be unbiased and love this phone. Am I being unreasonable, or is it really just a device that got close to the finish line and just gave up?

I think it all depends on what your needs are. We know it doesn't have the best camera. It's very competitive, but not the best. Performance can be fixed with updates. I suspect that LG rushed the ROM to be the first to have Nougat, which was one of their selling points for this phone. Battery life depends on your usage. LG's Quantum displays are horribly inefficient, so the screen is your primary battery drain, but my understanding is that idle drain is very good. Then you have fast charging and one of the few phones that you can instantly go to 100% on by swapping batteries.
For me, this is the only phone that checks all of my requirements: Functional always-on-display, IR blaster, 5.7"+ screen, good camera, removable battery and SD card. So, I'm buying the complete package, not because it's the best at everything. Every single phone has shortcomings. You need to decide which ones you can live with and buy your next device based on that criteria.

I'm with you, I thought the camera was quite a disappointment when shooting in auto mode. I liked the phone a lot (coming from a Nexus 6p) and if the camera had been good it would have been a no-brainer for me, because as greyhulk says it checks most, if not all, the boxes. But I need a camera that shoots good pics in auto mode. Sent it back.

Also disappointed with the camera. Especially after coming from the Note 7..

Settings/Developer Options/ Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make your beast smoother/snappier. So any kind of lag should disappear!
If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store!
LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts and are well optimised with the Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung!

Battery is my main disappointment. Even with minimal use I have only made it an entire day once. Something keeps eating battery while the phone is idle and I have yet to track it down. I suspect it is an app that needs a Nougat update. Same usage and set of apps on the S7 Edge and Note 7 would usually leave me near 50% at the end of the day.

Have to say I disagree.
The Hi-Fi is plenty loud enough and noticeably changes on the go. I have noticed though, it depends on the headphones that you are using. I have used 4 different sets. And each pair gave different results.
The camera is great. Video is turning out to be exactly as expected. As for the camera, it doesn't grab the shot in the first try every time and its nothing a tap of the screen and refocus hasn't been able to fix. But than again I haven't had a camera phone that has been able to take the shot first time every time.
Battery, that's a user to user base question. The other day I was able to get 32 hours out of my battery. But than on the other hand with very heavy use I only got 6.5 hours.

Weird I get about the same battery life as I did with my note 7. When at work I use the phone about the same amount every day 12 hr shifts and I am between. 50 to 70 percent
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I think your disappointment stems from using so many current generation phones, lets face it most years the hardware upgrades (specifically processors) match each other.
The HTC 10 runs the same hardware as the LG v20, so you've experienced it already. S7 has the same processor as well (assuming its the Qualcomm version) so it's not a big difference compared to someone coming from last generation phones.
Like for me I am coming from a v10 which had an outdated processor out the gate (others were using 810 while the v10 had the 808 due to overheating issues with the 810). The phone is literally over twice as fast as the v10 so I would certainly see a difference compared to you coming from the same generation of processors.
I don't own the phone yet but I will say it's a disappointment to see the camera being a letdown in reviews when you consider that the camera was the big feature of the v10.
Battery doesn't sound all that great either but it's got to be better than the v10. I am sure this will be remedied by 3rd party extended batteries that we will hopefully see. My v10 battery sucked until I upgraded to a 9000 mAh Zerolemon battery pack.
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Ali Mirza said:
Settings/Developer Options/ Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make your beast smoother/snappier. So any kind of lag should disappear!
If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store!
LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts and are well optimised with the Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung!
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Hello! What specifically does the "Force GPU Rendering" option?

I think you will settle with the Porsche Design Mate 9. Just a feeling lol

Why's there no option for ambivalence or just predictable? Just look at the stats and you pretty much know what you're getting. I'm happy with this phone after the $200 off and assuming I get the ~$150 headphone offer. I would be unhappy for full list price without those promos. For the price w/promos there just isn't anything comparable.
The display is the worst part of this phone for me. AMOLED just beats LCD anyway you slice it, this phone looks badly washed out and the auto brightness does weird things. Also the viewing angles are wonky, I was used to being able to use my phone at extreme angles but now I find myself lifting the phone up more. If this phone had AMOLED it would be a solid 9.9/10 for me, of course I knew I wouldn't like the screen when I bought it I just couldn't find a solid AMOLED phone. I don't particularly like the fingerprint reader position, have to pick it up off a table to use it and I've found my finger accidentally turns the screen on sometimes when I put it in my pocket. The second screen is nice for changing tracks or seeing what track is playing (or seeing the time at night without going blind), but it sucks for notifications. I miss my notification LED and my Qi charging.
Other than that this phone is pretty solid. I'm getting almost identical battery life that my Note 7 got, namely about 2 days. The standby battery life is phenomenal, I usually lose 1-2% overnight even with the second screen on. I love the removable battery so I don't have to worry about the battery dying before I'm ready to get rid of the phone. I'm no audiophile, so to me this phone is the best audio experience I've ever had with a phone hands down. Even streaming at just 192kbps this phone really makes my Shure SE215's sing. The camera is noticeably worse than the Note 7 at low light but it's still the 2nd best camera on a phone I've seen. Close up pictures have lots of nice detail and that's the kind of pictures I usually take. It focuses quickly and locks focus down better than the Note 7 did. For the kinds of the pictures I take in fact this camera is better, unlike my Samsungs this phone's auto white balance mode works correctly. The whole phone feels quick and snappy, comparable to the Note. I'm getting slightly better signal than I've ever gotten, in fact the wifi is much stronger than either of my Note 7's were.
I like the look of the phone and it feels great in my hands, which although not as great as the all glass Note 7, it feels like I could drop it and have nothing to worry about. I don't find the UI intrusive or laggy, eventually I'll swap over to nova prime once I'm tired of stock. For me it ticks all the right boxes of keeping old features rather than heading the apple direction and removing everything. Removable battery, SD card, IR Blaster, headphone jack, USB C, etc For that reason alone I think it's worth supporting LG

I agree
Main reasons I am keeping it are the $200 off, switched to T-mobile from VZW, and they are paying off the ETF so saving that money and the headphones makes the phone ideally almost free to me. For the full retail, I would return it in a heartbeat. People have hit it on the head that it really might be the fact the the Snapdragon 820 and the 4 GB ram is now getting long in the tooth. The camera can produce some nice pictures in manual mode, so I try to jump to that right away, but just a bit of a hassle to be on the ball to take a simple pic. With moderate light and close up, it does perform well. I can't really control lighting at all times and try and get my daughter up close and still when a picture moment comes though, the s7 handled it much better. I am going to try some different headphones to see if it is just the main pair I use that is letting me down. For the money / hardware, I think the Axon is the better bang for the buck with the AMOLED screen and the all carrier support. The speakers on that are ridiculous and the DAC was solid. This phone over all falls somewhere in the 7.5-8 /10 for me. Between the V20 and the HTC 10 I'll be good til the next wave of Flagships hit. I just have the feeling that LG pushed it out in a hurry to capitalize on the Note 7 flop and they could've polished it up a lot more. I can see them making the camera more responsive in low light and possibly addressing the battery life / hifi-dac customization / volume in the updates. It does a lot right but overall I was expecting and hoping for more from LG when they have had the perfect shot to grab the market. So far I am seeing the responses that seem line up with my expectation. Thanks everyone for taking the time to read and respond!
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Why's there no option for ambivalence or just predictable? Just look at the stats and you pretty much know what you're getting. I'm happy with this phone after the $200 off and assuming I get the ~$150 headphone offer. I would be unhappy for full list price without those promos. For the price w/promos there just isn't anything comparable.
The display is the worst part of this phone for me. AMOLED just beats LCD anyway you slice it, this phone looks badly washed out and the auto brightness does weird things. Also the viewing angles are wonky, I was used to being able to use my phone at extreme angles but now I find myself lifting the phone up more. If this phone had AMOLED it would be a solid 9.9/10 for me, of course I knew I wouldn't like the screen when I bought it I just couldn't find a solid AMOLED phone. I don't particularly like the fingerprint reader position, have to pick it up off a table to use it and I've found my finger accidentally turns the screen on sometimes when I put it in my pocket. The second screen is nice for changing tracks or seeing what track is playing (or seeing the time at night without going blind), but it sucks for notifications. I miss my notification LED and my Qi charging.
Other than that this phone is pretty solid. I'm getting almost identical battery life that my Note 7 got, namely about 2 days. The standby battery life is phenomenal, I usually lose 1-2% overnight even with the second screen on. I love the removable battery so I don't have to worry about the battery dying before I'm ready to get rid of the phone. I'm no audiophile, so to me this phone is the best audio experience I've ever had with a phone hands down. Even streaming at just 192kbps this phone really makes my Shure SE215's sing. The camera is noticeably worse than the Note 7 at low light but it's still the 2nd best camera on a phone I've seen. Close up pictures have lots of nice detail and that's the kind of pictures I usually take. It focuses quickly and locks focus down better than the Note 7 did. For the kinds of the pictures I take in fact this camera is better, unlike my Samsungs this phone's auto white balance mode works correctly. The whole phone feels quick and snappy, comparable to the Note. I'm getting slightly better signal than I've ever gotten, in fact the wifi is much stronger than either of my Note 7's were.
I like the look of the phone and it feels great in my hands, which although not as great as the all glass Note 7, it feels like I could drop it and have nothing to worry about. I don't find the UI intrusive or laggy, eventually I'll swap over to nova prime once I'm tired of stock. For me it ticks all the right boxes of keeping old features rather than heading the apple direction and removing everything. Removable battery, SD card, IR Blaster, headphone jack, USB C, etc For that reason alone I think it's worth supporting LG
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Ali Mirza said:
Settings/Developer Options/ Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make your beast smoother/snappier. So any kind of lag should disappear!
If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store!
LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts and are well optimised with the Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung!
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Please stop posting this everywhere
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You also forgot to mention the locked bootloader
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I came from the LG Nexus 5x and I loved that phone. While it's only been a few days, I am more than happy with the V20.
I get a phone through work, but upgraded on my own last year to the 5x. So when I cracked my screen a few weeks ago, I went through work this time. Options were limited on AT&T and since I'm gonna be stuck with a phone for 2 years I wanted the newest phone I could get without "compromising" what I'd wanted in a phone. I also didn't want to settle for a year old phone or switch to the iPhone (Android since 2010 and likely forever).
Anyway, I say all that to say that the V20 was never on my radar, mostly because of the size, even though I'd previously had the Note 2, 3 and briefly 4. I'd been very happy with the size and feel of the 5x, but the battery life was horrendous. Basically anything would have been an upgrade, and the V20 does more than I need in the battery department. If I can get to my bed before needing a charge, I'm a happy man, since I'd be charging around lunch on a daily basis before.
I was already used to the fingerprint sensor and love the fact it's on the back on the V20 as well. I can deal with the volume buttons swapped and the power button moving to the fingerprint sensor. It was a little odd at first but I'm used to it already.
Again, the camera and screen on the 5x was mediocre so anything would be better. And again the V20 checks both of those boxes; huge, vibrant screen, and pictures that look beautiful to my eye. If you're going from newest flagship to newest flagship an argument can be made on those points, but if you're upgrading after a year + the hardware is always going to be better, even if you find some flaws, and IMO the V20 does great in both categories.
The removable battery does have its pros. A few years ago it was a 'must-have' for me, but nowadays I'd taker water/dust proofing over it. Not a deal breaker though. The SD card slot IS however a wonderful thing. Despite the 64 GB internal, I love being able to add and not worry about space. I've had my local music library backed up to an SD card for quite a while and it's so convenient to have that at my disposal locally (no network connection needed).
The software. Not much better than PURE Android and rooting has always been a priority for me. BUT, stability ultimately is the most important thing on a phone to me now. Being able to lower DPI via adb shell is huge. Really not having TiBu or the ability to remove some carrier apps is about the worst left we can't do. And to be honest, it's easily overlooked. Is it annoying AF we can't remove everything we don't want? Absolutely. But said apps can be hidden with certain launchers, and I've come to just ignore them in the app drawer, forgetting they're even there.
Add in the FM radio (so novel yet so great), Second Screen (which I actually could use some tips on getting the most out of) and I'm digging this phone. Is LG's UI a little clunky? Yea, but I'll live. And using something new is refreshing, honestly.
It's only been a few days but I'm happy with this device and have no regrets. The V20 may also get me back on the Phablet train, being unable to use something smaller as they feel like toys. I've not gone a full 2 years without upgrading in quite some time. This phone is going to be the test.
/ rant
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I agree with what you say. I think my let down is from moving from flagship to flagship all into the same time frame. The coming from any device before the snapdragon 820 and a quad HD screen, this thing is a major upgrade. I agree that the fingerprint scanner is best on back... Loved it on the nexus 6p and the axon 7. I just sold my htc 10 so I'm committed to the v20. Holding out til something amazing comes this way...

bishmaster5000 said:
Why's there no option for ambivalence or just predictable? Just look at the stats and you pretty much know what you're getting. I'm happy with this phone after the $200 off and assuming I get the ~$150 headphone offer. I would be unhappy for full list price without those promos. For the price w/promos there just isn't anything comparable.
The display is the worst part of this phone for me. AMOLED just beats LCD anyway you slice it, this phone looks badly washed out and the auto brightness does weird things. Also the viewing angles are wonky, I was used to being able to use my phone at extreme angles but now I find myself lifting the phone up more. If this phone had AMOLED it would be a solid 9.9/10 for me, of course I knew I wouldn't like the screen when I bought it I just couldn't find a solid AMOLED phone. I don't particularly like the fingerprint reader position, have to pick it up off a table to use it and I've found my finger accidentally turns the screen on sometimes when I put it in my pocket. The second screen is nice for changing tracks or seeing what track is playing (or seeing the time at night without going blind), but it sucks for notifications. I miss my notification LED and my Qi charging.
Other than that this phone is pretty solid. I'm getting almost identical battery life that my Note 7 got, namely about 2 days. The standby battery life is phenomenal, I usually lose 1-2% overnight even with the second screen on. I love the removable battery so I don't have to worry about the battery dying before I'm ready to get rid of the phone. I'm no audiophile, so to me this phone is the best audio experience I've ever had with a phone hands down. Even streaming at just 192kbps this phone really makes my Shure SE215's sing. The camera is noticeably worse than the Note 7 at low light but it's still the 2nd best camera on a phone I've seen. Close up pictures have lots of nice detail and that's the kind of pictures I usually take. It focuses quickly and locks focus down better than the Note 7 did. For the kinds of the pictures I take in fact this camera is better, unlike my Samsungs this phone's auto white balance mode works correctly. The whole phone feels quick and snappy, comparable to the Note. I'm getting slightly better signal than I've ever gotten, in fact the wifi is much stronger than either of my Note 7's were.
I like the look of the phone and it feels great in my hands, which although not as great as the all glass Note 7, it feels like I could drop it and have nothing to worry about. I don't find the UI intrusive or laggy, eventually I'll swap over to nova prime once I'm tired of stock. For me it ticks all the right boxes of keeping old features rather than heading the apple direction and removing everything. Removable battery, SD card, IR Blaster, headphone jack, USB C, etc For that reason alone I think it's worth supporting LG
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I agree. Top tier amoled should've been here. Probably would've improved the already great battery life another 20%ish. And notification LED would've been awesome. Yeah yeah. I know we have second screen, but I don't use it. Probably why I get 6h+SOT all the time. 8h 1m was my best and I had 3% left. I get 7h+ often. Standby time is incredible. Hasn't been consistent for me but probably lose 1% about every 5h average. Need to root and get adblocking. That will probably improve battery life even more. Hoping a custom kernel with only modification of voltage settings will help too. Tired of all these unstable kernels with features I don't use or care.about. haven't stuck with a custom kernel since...maybe note2. It has been awhile. Just roll with stock kernel since no dev wants to make a simple kernel with voltage adjustments. Not paying anymore devs on kernels until they deliver. I've paid upfront twice and font nothing in return. Scumbags.and I hope the fingerprint scanner has features. Features like being able to use as track pad or minimum that uses swipes for shortcuts like the pixel. That would be friggin' awesome. And aside from camera on auto not being consistent the phone otherwise is almost flawless. I've gotten accustomed to the camera on auto though. Multiple pictures and using focus at different spots has helped tremendously. I've been able to tweak my screen close to accurate by eyeballing it so pictures look like the scenery on screen now. Got to test video and bi def recording today at veterans day parade. Both exceeded my high expectations. Just need slmevody to find binning of chips which I made a dedicated thread for but nobody answered. I've looked everywhere. And one of first things I do when I root is customize the boot up screen. Boring. Very boring and.typical of T-Mobile. I've only had to reboot for sim or micro SD reasons though. Very very stable. Micro SD isn't up to par unless I have root. Nonetheless I've been able to work around it. Just had to take care out. And everybody keeps saying IR blaster. I think our IT is a transceiver. Supposedly it can learn but I haven't tried yet. R.I.P. remotes if it indeed can learn. LG did good. Seems rushed but this is truly a flagship phone in many ways. Swappable battery in 2016on a flagship. Say what? LG needs to step it up on the accessories. Ready to buy a 6 pack of batteries. I got in on the $51 deal for the BCK-5200 package on Amazon. Now just need a good sale on batteries.

Coming from a note 7 I have mixed feelings. It ticks a lot of the boxes but I miss waterproof, the great samsung screens and I knew about those when I bought. The camera really disappointed me though. I was expecting it to take way better pics than it does. Spoiled from the note 7 I suppose. I didn't realize before buying it that it had the IR blaster and I had really been missing that from my s5. Nice to not have to hunt for remotes anymore. Its not ideal, but for someone like me that over 5.7" screen is a requirement it really is the best second choice to my old note 7. The bootloader sucks too. I had gotten out of the habit of reroming phones since samsung pay and now that I am off samsung I thought it would be fun to start that again. But nope. I have a sprint one and it seems to be non rootable at the moment.
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I do think a little bit of my dissapointment in the camera is not genuine. I am mainly comparing shots taken with this phones camera viewed on this phones screen to shots taken by the note 7 on the note 7's screen. The same photo would of course pop more on the amoled screen even if it was the same camera so thats part of the disappointment. But even still I think the note 7 took way better pics.

I love the phone other than no root, the camera I'm not really disappointed because I'm no photographer, the IR blaster is a must thank you LG, Samsung what are you thinking. The removable battery isn't a big deal since the battery does pretty good. If it was water proof that would top it off.
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This is why I am returning my HTC U11

HI guys.
Just wanted to share some of my frustrations with this device. Please note that I am compering it to my old galaxy s8 and it is only a matter of personal opinion. Please let me know if you experienced any of these issues.
1. Strange auto brightness incidents. When I open the phone or move to different apps (such as camera, google photos gallery or chrome) the brightness changes. I was really surprised since I don't have an option for auto brightness.
2. AT&T reception issues. Calls are connected really slow and I get spotty coverage (in Chicago). It is worse then the galaxy s8.
3. Boom sound is not booming at all. The galaxy s8 has a very similar volume but looks like they tweaked it for higher highs so it sounds crisper. The upper speaker on the U11 is really not necessary and effects the overall quality of the sound . If I have a stereo speaker, why one side have to be worse?
4. I cannot do it without the headphone jack. I tried to walk around with the converter and I agree it gives amazing sound but I just can't do it.
5. Cumbersome system menus that are different from the stock android we all got to love. Its so hard to find the NFC and there is no shortcut for it.
6. call speaker clarity= its not clear.
7. The squeezing does not work for me. I set it up for medium strength (which was hard since its its not calibrated for medium power) and the phone kept on turning my camera in my pocket. So dies that mean I cannot wear skinny jeans anymore?
8. Tap to wake is not consistent, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
9. Also I noticed a strange behavior with the home button (I don't use fingerprint): sometimes I can tap it to wake the phone, sometimes I need to tap it twice and sometimes I cannot unlock the phone by tapping on it. When the phone is awake the home button works perfectly.
10. Bluetooth connectivity lost at random times in my car.
11. I got a strange "do not disturb" toggle (on and off) when I make a call.
12. The camera is not noticeably better the the galaxy s8. The shutter speed is the same, the light exposure is the same. Not sure it is worth the upgrade. In addition the edge sense works really bad here since squeezing the sides of the phone to take a pic creates a tremor because of the awkward way you need to hold the phone up.
Selfie camera is sub par.
13. The galaxy s8 has a better sun visibility since its brightness can be cranked up even higher. I tested it side by side. WTF HTC, you have an lcd panel.
14. The size.... OMG the size. I know that HTC made a great looking phone but one you go infinity edge, impossible to go back.
15. Red glow. Comparing the galaxy to the U, it is notably reddish, even after making the screen "cooler" in the options it is still red looking to me.
16. HTC phone migrate tool is not working on the Galaxy and it crashes (not a big deal but its annoying).
17. Earphones drain battery (wtf?!?).
18. HTC horrible call center.
19. Muffled car Bluetooth sound quality . More then one call sounds fed horrible comparing g to the s8.
***PHONE RETURNED ***

Overall I prefer the S8 but was chucking you call it "old": still fairly new IMHO! ?
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Ok............

Old s8? The thing didn't drop a dollar yet
As for the rest this is typical feedback for anyone coming from s8, just like few reviews, some of comments hold true like s8 sun brightness due to over drive (I dare to use it like that extensively)
But other like the boom and audio is completely non sense
Remaining few bugs here and there which are being addressed in the imminent update
Speed, response and fluidity however completely slaughters your s8
As for camera, unless you zoom and crop you will not appreciate this mobile camera bomb
Red glow as opposed to pink tint on the s8? Extended display color options are coming in the imminent update
Size and ergonomics I fully agree there, however some tips which has massively improved my experience, Nova launcher for swipe up and didn't action, simple controls to add quick access to have buttons, I now rarely touch the back button, a slim or the inbox case is recommended to save ergonomics, or naked if you have the heart for it...naked it this is the most comfortable phablet you can find, let's remember that its a phablet after all, same size as pixel XL, ah yes let's remember kids the s8 is not really bigger screen than this phablet not even close
Peace, go back to your tiny s8 :laugh:

The boom sound is not that great. The Galaxy sound as crisp. Plus the two mods it provides is another headache. Theater mode is muffled and music mode is just not good.
BTW . The Galaxy S8 is my wife's , I will get the plus .
Yes, the Galaxy S8 has a smaller screen only if you watch videos all day
The sound quality is exactly the same! And the camera is not a lot greater. BTW, I can notice the different approaches this manufacturers took .
On zoom the u11 is sharper but pixelated . The Galaxy is less sharp but smoother .
3.5 Jack and and a higher screen ratio would have make this phone perfect . Too bed it's far from it.

I bought this phone becuase it wasn't an S8
As someone who has owned a number of devices I wanted some things that people call "old" such as the home button back. I could get by without it on my Z3 compact but there were apps that blew up so bad I had no choice than to restart the phone because the software home button wouldn't show up, but after holding down the power button the restart option would show up and respond.
I have seen the S8 and as someone that owned the S2-4 I really didn't like it. The S5 is the last Samsung phone that I really liked. Though I went with the Z3 compact because it was smaller and cheaper.
I agree that the lack of a headphone jack is disappointing but on nearly every other point listed I disagree. My screen has nearly zero tint to it, my Z3 compact and Samsung's had strong blue tints to them. My Moto phone had a greenish tint to it.
The speed of the S8 is frankly so shameful it isn't even funny. I bought the Galaxy S phones back when they had speed. Now with all of the junk useless crap on the S8 it seems like a $300 phone not 700-800.
Also any phone that isn't 16:9 needs to be thrown into the trash. Don't like it or care for it and want the trend to drop dead ASAP. Though if we could get a flagship device with a removable battery I guess then I would suck it up and deal with an odd ball screen.
This phone's reception on AT&T is really good as the voice quality couldn't get much better to me.
I almost bought a Sony XZ premium, but wanted to try a HTC phone and save some money so here I am. Overall the Sony XZ premium is likely the best flagship device out now but I wanted to pay a bit less and get the home button back so that's why HTC got my money this time.

I didn't think the phone was that great either, but most of your points are bull****.
1. You can turn auto brightness off
2. These reception issues probably has nothing to do with HTC, it is completely compatible with AT&T
3. boom sound is still better than most phones lol
4. if you can't do without the headphone jack, why did you buy this phone in the first place?
5. i'll give you that one
7. lol
The rest are pretty unfortunate for you to have, I kinda agree with you on 15 though. The screen was warmer compared to my other phones

1. My phone doesn't do that. It only changes brightness in camera or when there more light hitting the sensor
3. Boomsound is kind of weird. Doesn't work too well in landscape since it's unbalanced. Treble can be boosted a bit of you install Viper4Android. I don't think the snapdragon S8 has root to install sound mods.
4. I use Bluetooth, so this isn't a problem for me.
5. Isn't this exactly like stock Android? It's under more where it's always been. You can also search it.
7. I have the issue where edge sense didn't always activate when I squeezed the phone.
8. Don't know about this one, always use fingerprint.
10. Bluetooth connection to car is broken for me too. I think it's due to bugs in 7.1.1
11. That's weird
12. only squeeze with one hand, easier to take pic.
13. Wish it could do iPhone levels too but not dissatisfied
What i really love about this phone is how smooth it is. Night and day coming from my S7 edge. Using Google maps, browsing while downloading anything, experience is so much better.
+ We have an unlocked bootloader and can root

i have the s8 right here on my table didnt turn it on for two weeeks, the whole S8 sounds just as good argument is just absurd, its terrible, super low volume and dont make me start on the joke that is audio recording and voice messages, even when using the speakerphone i have to raise the phone to my ear
you would have won a decent objective argument if it wasnt for that absurd audio comment
s8 audio is good only in certain tones, ideal for certain ringtones that is i guess this is what you call crisp, you want to see how bad the audio is on your s8? just revert back to the stock song ringtone....just laughable
4ktvs said:
The speed of the S8 is frankly so shameful it isn't even funny. I bought the Galaxy S phones back when they had speed. Now with all of the junk useless crap on the S8 it seems like a $300 phone not 700-800.
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this! why people walk passed this as if its not important, the S8 speed is hilarious, in gaming its a mid range and its even much slower and hotter in the worldwide exynos version
you want to pay 800$ for a phone operating like an iPhone 5 in terms of speed, fluidity and response be my guest, just leave us out of it
Galaxy S8 lovers (lets admit we all love it) it should be in your favor to bash Samsung for the incredible bad performance and lying reviews in order for them to fix this in the future and HTC deserves to awarded for doing this beast of a phone

Samsung Note 4 user here. Can't defend the S8 or Samsung of late since they bent the screen and locked all snapdragon bootloaders and blamed it on Google and Qualcomm. Fragile hot mess there! No thanks.
I'm remotely considering this phone but keeping options open.
I'm inclined to agree that updates may smooth some OP complaints but the first thing I would try is take phone out of battery saver mode and give performance a good try. That may be causing the inconsistency with brightness, cell signal and edge squeeze?
There are other battery saving methods to try. I never trust factory battery saving modes. That especially applies to Samsung. Please stop trying to optimize my phone; you're inducing lag and really need to learn how to manage RAM, Samsung. Try again just doesn't seem to be working for you.
Ultimately, Android and third party apps may do a better job. But HTC Boost+ is an app I use on my Note 4. LOL; I know that's an HTC app with ad sponsorship. Maybe HTC users get a free ride regarding the ads?
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Boomsound is crap? And your S8 sounds better? Really?
And from when did Samsung phones had stock android experience?
This writing of yours is more suitable in the S8 section. It would make many happy though it mostly doesn't make sense.

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Boomsound is crap? S8 sounds the same ?
Holy ****balls he just went full retard.
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I guess he never had a U11 in his hands, because (almost) every point is just nonsense.
And some people are so much addicted to Samsung that they just can't see the advantages in other devices.
I myself am addicted to HTC: Legend, Desire, One S, M7, M8, 10, U11.
There is one Samsung device i had a longer time and that was the Galaxy S2. Later i tried the S6 and S7, but both phones were greatly disappointing my expectations. All the UI and ROM just didn't feel like a flagship. Slow and unstable. I even experienced reboots with S7 when opening MAPS. Sound crappy, internal AND external. And so on. Only good thing was the camera and Amoled.
So if you really think your Samsung is better, then go with it and try to be happy.

HTC's systems menu is very close to stock. Samsung has the a** backwards system menu. Get out of here you skinny jean wearing troll.

borisb said:
HI guys.
Just wanted to share some of my frustrations with this device. Please note that I am compering it to my old galaxy s8 and it is only a matter of personal opinion. Please let me know if you experienced any of these issues.
14. The size.... OMG the size. I know that HTC made a great looking phone but one you go infinity edge, impossible to go back.
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that sounded wrong...
you love that big black samsung phone dont you l:laugh:

Digitalkarma said:
that sounded wrong...
you love that big black samsung phone dont you l:laugh:
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No I don't . But I don't have anything else.
If the U11 had a 3.5 jack I would have kept it. Yesterday I wanted to play music at my friends back yard, so he handed me a 3.5 mm cable; you should have seen his face when he realized I have no way of connecting it (he is an owner of an iphone 5s).
On the other hand if the galaxy 8 had no "edges" and has a normal resolution it will be the perfect phone right now.
Maybe the note 8 could be a better choice for me or the Oneplus 5. Money is not an issue, I am willing to spend 600-850 on a new phone but it has to be used properly and not just look great.
Besides, the U11 has a serious issue with lighting.

Samsung fans try so hard to hate HTC, they would be very disappointed if they couldn't find anything wrong. It's so bad that I have even been seeing Sammy fans buying this device, (or pretending to) just so they can show proof why this phone sucks Lol. Then they threaten to return it :laugh: It is killing them that this great phone just might be better than their Holy Samsung :crying: LMAO!

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No I don't . But I don't have anything else.
If the U11 had a 3.5 jack I would have kept it. Yesterday I wanted to play music at my friends back yard, so he handed me a 3.5 mm cable; you should have seen his face when he realized I have no way of connecting it (he is an owner of an iphone 5s).
On the other hand if the galaxy 8 had no "edges" and has a normal resolution it will be the perfect phone right now.
Maybe the note 8 could be a better choice for me or the Oneplus 5. Money is not an issue, I am willing to spend 600-850 on a new phone but it has to be used properly and not just look great.
Besides, the U11 has a serious issue with lighting.
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If you want a 3.5 headphone jack then get the Sony XZ premium because you can pick one up for under $800 USD though clove UK. It's better than the S8 in every way other than maybe the camera.

@borisb and why did you ignore the included 3.5 adapter?
anyway i dont see a point of a thread like "why i am returning" these threads are always controversial
besides no one asked you :laugh:
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4ktvs said:
If you want a 3.5 headphone jack then get the Sony XZ premium because you can pick one up for under $800 USD though clove UK. It's better than the S8 in every way other than maybe the camera.
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but but but the bezel, i would sell my soul for that bezel :laugh:
@borisb serious issues with lighting: simply switch to touch auto exposure from the camera settings but hey you are not here for solutions

hamdir said:
besides no one asked you :laugh:
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But, he....then you...ugh....dag....
All I can say is...apply liberally.

Anyone regret getting this phone? :/

I have the U11 since inception along with the S8 (exynos variant) and Oneplus 5. I really regret buying it since I cant even sell it now. I'm left with the choice of selling my other two phone and use this :/

KeepItzRoot said:
I have the U11 since inception along with the S8 (exynos variant) and Oneplus 5. I really regret buying it since I cant even sell it now. I'm left with the choice of selling my other two phone and use this :/
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And would you like to explain why you don't want to use u11 and keep other devices instead?
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What don't you like about the phone? I just got mine and I'm enjoying it so far. Only thing is aftermarket support isn't that great.
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melihcarter said:
And would you like to explain why you don't want to use u11 and keep other devices instead?
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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.

KeepItzRoot said:
The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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Before I got mine I did a ton of research. Went to a MeetU event, checked it out in Sprint stores and saw tons of reviews. I knew the stuff I had to live with like the dongle for headphones. Sorry you don't like the phone. I'm assuming you can't return it anymore?
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You are more than welcome to your opinion but why on Earth can you "not sell your phone"?

I like the phone at the moment.I think it will be a problem to resell it because not so many people are using HTC.Nobody from my friends are using HTC.iPhone and Samsung addicted ?

The only thing I regret about the U11 is its size, but I didn't have any way to test it out before purchasing. It's difficult for me to use with one hand. I still have a couple of weeks to return it for a refund, and really the only newer phone that intrigues me is the Essential. But that device feels like a gamble in a few ways.
I don't see why you would have any problems selling the U11. You may not receive as much as you paid for it, but somebody will buy it. Someone bought my 10 a few weeks ago (with several accessors) for $475 very quickly.

No, I made an informed decision and went with the best option for me.
I like that the phone comes with a USB DAC, I like the sapphire blue glass, I use the squeeze feature multiple times in a day, the only thing I've got slight reservations are the change to the warranty stance over unlocking the bootloader and their updates not being fast enough.
E.g. the new update indicates the display sensitivity issue is fixed and yet the 001 WWE users will probably be waiting another month.
But then again, I'd rather have this device over any of the others currently in the market.

KeepItzRoot said:
The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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Battery life not good?
10 hours screen on time on stock is easily achieved on the u11?
Wow.... Your expectations must be very high

p50kombi said:
Battery life not good?
10 hours screen on time on stock is easily achieved on the u11?
Wow.... Your expectations must be very high
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10 hours...did you shut off everything, turn screen brightness to 0? I can barely get it past 4 hours.
I use my phone typically with everything on, and auto brightness on. I never have a problem with the oneplus 5 or S8 last beyond 5 hours.

Doughnut said:
No, I made an informed decision and went with the best option for me.
I like that the phone comes with a USB DAC, I like the sapphire blue glass, I use the squeeze feature multiple times in a day, the only thing I've got slight reservations are the change to the warranty stance over unlocking the bootloader and their updates not being fast enough.
E.g. the new update indicates the display sensitivity issue is fixed and yet the 001 WWE users will probably be waiting another month.
But then again, I'd rather have this device over any of the others currently in the market.
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I dont have sensitivity issue. All phones works well as far as audio goes, I power my HD800s with a proper DAC/AMP not with a phone DAC/AMP. I cant see any in-ear monitor that cant be power (and power well) with any of these phones, its 2017.

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10 hours...did you shut off everything, turn screen brightness to 0? I can barely get it past 4 hours.
I use my phone typically with everything on, and auto brightness on. I never have a problem with the oneplus 5 or S8 last beyond 5 hours.
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Check the megathread, there's screenshots in there. Not from myself but other users

borgsta said:
You are more than welcome to your opinion but why on Earth can you "not sell your phone"?
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seems like no one wants it. It depreciate alot! I had this problem with the HTC 10 too, but being a tech/phone (dummy) I bought another HTC :/

p50kombi said:
Check the megathread, there's screenshots in there. Not from myself but other users
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thats the thing, phone usage is based on user to user. I am using the phone the same as my 2 other phones and it cant hang. You can go to any phone thread and there are people making ridiculous claim about their SOT, even in the S8. ask how they do it and they throw out a bunch of things they did such as turning down brightness to 0, some even put phone on airplane mode -_- c'mon man.

Im not which region your in OP, but in UK, you can trade your U11 to CEX for £415 against something else in store or £345 cash in hand.. and I think GAME do something similar.. Or eBay about £350-450 , which isnt the best, but if you dislike it that much.. then better some kind of cash than nothing...
The only thing I dislike about the U11 is that f**king News Republic is forced upon us if we want to use BlinkFeed, and your battery problem is caused by "News Republic" which powers BlinkFeed.. I actually really loved BF on the M8 and M9, it was useful, but Ive noticed that on the U11, NR is constantly waking the CPU when phone is sleeping and when your not even using BF at all, bit like UpDay used to be on the S7E. Im actually force to disable both BF and NR... and install G .Newsstand instead. Also, even when you "unfollow" a topic. like Football, or Chinese Politics.. it actually doesnt work.. I STILL those Newsfeeds
Now to me, BF was a great part of Sense UI.. and disabling it, is a bit like not using the Stereo Speakers or the camera.. its a major part of HTC phones.. So Im not happy either.. When HTC went stock Google to reduce the Bloat on their phones, why didnt they just bake Google News and Weather or Newsstand as BlinkFeed..
Other than NR... I love the U11 and my G6, but these 2 are my last Android phones.. my next phone is an Iphone 7 plus..

Battery life is very good. But excellent with a custom kernel. Get about 7 hours of on screen time.

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thats the thing, phone usage is based on user to user. I am using the phone the same as my 2 other phones and it cant hang. You can go to any phone thread and there are people making ridiculous claim about their SOT, even in the S8. ask how they do it and they throw out a bunch of things they did such as turning down brightness to 0, some even put phone on airplane mode -_- c'mon man.
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It's not though... It's brightness set at 50 at auto, normal usage and even social media apps..
I don't use my phone that much that I can claim 10 hours screen off time, but my phone easily reached 2 full days of my normal usage and 6 hours screen on time during that time...

Loving mine thus far. Coming from the S7, my battery life and performance has been pretty dang good. Even before S7 root, it is noticeably better. When considering the S7 root situation of having to use an engineering boot/kernel, and the mess it made with the battery life/performance...it's night and day.
The lack of headphone jack is somewhat disappointing. In reality I don't find myself needing headphones as often any more now that I'm done with college and all that jazz. The only other complaint I have is the lack of accessories for it.

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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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* Battery - my SOT is 6hrs. More than any other phone I had used except for the Mi Mix(9-10hrs). Lots of FB, Viber. Regular text messages and calls. some games.
* 3.5mm - you can't complain about this. You had to know from the start that HTC U11 didn't have one.
* Camera - excellent for me.
* This phone is very fast and smooth I have no complaints whatsoever.