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No one has brought this issue up as far as I know but I am on my 2nd Focus and 2nd battery and having what i believe to be heat related lock ups.
I reformatted tried with fresh phone not even signed into a Live ID and I can duplicate this issue about 90% of the time. I make a phone call and stuff it in my shirt pocket with a jacket on. It will lock up with the Samsung Logo and be hot to the touch. A battery pull is needed to reset and the battery is extremely hot. When I reboot the battery life is drastically diminished.
I am not using an SD card and replicated the issue with or without apps. The only way I can keep it from locking up is on my hip in a case. I can only imagine how the summer will be if I am having the problems now in the winter.
ps I kept my Touch Pro 2 and currently My Moto Droid in my pocket without issue.
Bizarre. I've never experienced that issue before. My Focus usually stays pretty cold actually.
Maybe yours is defective? It's possible.
No issues with the phone getting hot, or even warm, for me.
2 phones and batteries. I thought I would just put it out there to see if others were having issues.
I've noticed my phone getting a little warm while playing Crackdown but it never got slow or locked up ever.
When I download many songs from Zune or play a long game it gets pretty warm but it has never been "to hot" to hold and never crashed.
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It will lock up with the Samsung Logo and be hot to the touch. A battery pull is needed to reset and the battery is extremely hot.
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I also had this problem, i just had this happen for the first time today. I was using my phone earlier in the day, all of a sudden I felt it getting warm in my pocket. After I pulled it out, it was stuck on the samsung logo and warm to the touch. Pulling the battery and resetting does nothing. I keeps booting to the Samsung logo and never proceeds further. I have even left it off for a few hours and attempted to power it up again: still no luck.
I am unable to hard reset the phone.
I called my local AT&T store before they closed, they agreed to replace it tomorrow :-\
I am having so much buyers remorse. I would have returned it but it happened on my 31st day. I went through 2 phones and batteries and I still get the problem. If I talk on the phone or surf the net and stick it in my pocket the phone is toast until I realize it and do a battery pull. If I wait too long the battery is pretty much drained.
I don't ever think I will buy a Samsung again. WM7 is lacking but I knew what I was getting into but from the memory card debacle and the Samsung Boot menu the phone is crap. Hell we can't even set it down flat on a surface and use the tough screen properly. Beautiful screen but all other hardware is crap.
I also noticed a pretty hot Samsung Focus in my pocket today. After turning off wireless search it got cold again.
I have experinced the heating up issue. It happens a few times a week. I kind of think it could potentially be dangerous because of the battery. Samsung should have a recall or fix for free.
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I have experinced the heating up issue. It happens a few times a week. I kind of think it could potentially be dangerous because of the battery. Samsung should have a recall or fix for free.
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If they start blowing up they might issue a recall, but until bodily injury (and getting sued for real bucks) is on the table it is probably cheaper for them to replace or fix them.
Samsung got a ton of bad press for the GPS woes in the Galaxy S line of phones and didn't do a thing about it.
The SD card thing is weird. MS could have revoked their Windows Phone 7 compatible seal of approval but didn't probably bc it was a launch device and didn't want to piss off Samsung. Rediculous.
MS and Intel went through the same thing with the 'Vista Certified' thing. They let big names do what they want because either way they are getting paid for the licences.
my focus got warm when playing Need 4 Speed Undercover from start to finish in 1 sitting lol but my Nexus One,Palm Pre,and iphone would get hot after playing for that amount of time too. It just depends on what u are doing and how long u are doing it imo.
I did make 1 hour call on my Focus and it doesnot seem overheating...
Alson runed the Harvest for harvest and it was fine...
This has happened once before, but just for a small amount of time to to the heat (I believe). The phone has been off for over and hour and refuses to turn on whether I hold down the volume button, don't hold down the volume button, or push the battery in at the exact time as I'm doing the other one or two. The splash screen flashed for half a second and immediately went back off when I plugged my evo charger, the usb part, into my portable ipod charger, so I believe this means there is still help available! Last time this happened, which was months ago, it seemed as if it just needed to cool down a bit, and my reading on the internet confirmed that the phones shut off when their batteries reach too high of temperatures. So what I did was wrap the phone and the battery, separately, in a large wash cloth and let them sit it the fridge for a little while. No luck, I'm running out of ideas (and I realize a ziplock bag may have been better but who cares). A few days ago I installed cm7gginggerbread7 (wimax) over cm7gingerbread2, but have not had any issues up until now and everything has run perfectly as well as smoothly. Is there any way I can turn my brick into a phone? Perhaps there's a way to adb something even though the phone wont boot (im a noob). I'm just pissed cuz I finally got every little thing exactly the way I wanted it, and now I'm stuck with a paperweight :/ I thank you for all your help, brave knights
It just suddenly shut off and won't turn back on?
And you weren't messing with anything?
If so, sounds like it's a hardware or battery issue.
Can you try a different battery?
Does the charging light come on when you plug it in? It could be a dead battery, and if the charging port is broke, it wont charge.
Otherwise, it seems like a hardware issue. I would take it to sprint, and they should be able to replace it for you.
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Does the charging light come on when you plug it in? It could be a dead battery, and if the charging port is broke, it wont charge.
Otherwise, it seems like a hardware issue. I would take it to sprint, and they should be able to replace it for you.
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But it has teh rootz!!!!!!!!!
Smash that mofo with a hammer and call Asurion!!!!!!
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But it has teh rootz!!!!!!!!!
Smash that mofo with a hammer and call Asurion!!!!!!
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If they can't get it to power on then it really doesn't matter if it's rooted or not because they won't be able to find out.
Well I was messin with it a couple days ago, flashed gginggerbread6 w/ wimax over gginggerbread2 after wiping cache and dalvik and of course making a nandroid. I was thinking of smashing it but I've gotten everything they way I want it for the thousandth time. I'm also reluctant to do it because this issue has resolved itself in the past, albeit a tad quicker. For christ's sake, it even fixed itself for half a second this time, just enough to show me the splash screen lol. I'm very gentle with my evo and have never had any problems that weren't easily resolved with a little bit of work. I guess I could smash it until it works, and then if it ends up breaking then I win either way, but I'd really like to get my darling fixed. I know it's nothing compared to the cyanogenmod team, but I've flashed and flashed (almost always to cyanogenmod, what can I say it's perfect) and I have FINALLY got everything set up the way I wanted it, which includes manually going through and changing all the icons to custom pngs lol.
I guess I just don't understand why this would happen all of a sudden like this, I've onlu had it for three or four months, htc can't make that shotty of work can they? The other thing is I have a battery widget so as to make sure my battery does not get to hot, as well as having a setting in setcpu which stops overheating if it should ever occur. I really have a feeling it's something which can be fixed just because it has been magically fixed in the past and it was "fixed" for half a second today. Is there any way to adb into recovery even though the screen is black? Any suggestions help, I have important calls coming in as well as rather important calls to (hopefully) future employers. Of course I also don't want people to think that I am ignoring them, which isn't quite as bad but I still try to be as rude as possible :/
So...any ideas guys Don't wanna sound like I'm fishing for compliments, but you all are by far the best in the field. Keep up the good work (on my phone haha) Thanks so much for the advice you're going to give me on how to fix this up so I don't miss all my friends calls and texts until I get pissed off at. Later trooper
EDIT: Sry got block of text. tl/dr fix my evo that wont turn on asap thx
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Well I was messin with it a couple days ago, flashed gginggerbread6 w/ wimax over gginggerbread2 after wiping cache and dalvik and of course making a nandroid. I was thinking of smashing it but I've gotten everything they way I want it for the thousandth time. I'm also reluctant to do it because this issue has resolved itself in the past, albeit a tad quicker. For christ's sake, it even fixed itself for half a second this time, just enough to show me the splash screen lol. I'm very gentle with my evo and have never had any problems that weren't easily resolved with a little bit of work. I guess I could smash it until it works, and then if it ends up breaking then I win either way, but I'd really like to get my darling fixed. I know it's nothing compared to the cyanogenmod team, but I've flashed and flashed (almost always to cyanogenmod, what can I say it's perfect) and I have FINALLY got everything set up the way I wanted it, which includes manually going through and changing all the icons to custom pngs lol.
I guess I just don't understand why this would happen all of a sudden like this, I've onlu had it for three or four months, htc can't make that shotty of work can they? The other thing is I have a battery widget so as to make sure my battery does not get to hot, as well as having a setting in setcpu which stops overheating if it should ever occur. I really have a feeling it's something which can be fixed just because it has been magically fixed in the past and it was "fixed" for half a second today. Is there any way to adb into recovery even though the screen is black? Any suggestions help, I have important calls coming in as well as rather important calls to (hopefully) future employers. Of course I also don't want people to think that I am ignoring them, which isn't quite as bad but I still try to be as rude as possible :/
So...any ideas guys Don't wanna sound like I'm fishing for compliments, but you all are by far the best in the field. Keep up the good work (on my phone haha) Thanks so much for the advice you're going to give me on how to fix this up so I don't miss all my friends calls and texts until I get pissed off at. Later trooper
EDIT: Sry got block of text. tl/dr fix my evo that wont turn on asap thx
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If this occurred while you were NOT changing anything with the radio partition or recovery partition then it's not a brick issue.
Sounds like you have a hardware issue.
Take it to the store.
If you smash it you will be paying $100 to asurion for a replacement as Sprint changed the TEP again.
Just wondering was your battery completely dead before this happened. I have read some people here and other places have said that if the battery completely dies that it won't charge unless you put it on a actual battery charger made for it. Does the charge light come on when you plug it in? Also, like my friend before me said, take it to Sprint. Ask them if they have a battery you could try. If it doesn't work it will eliminate the battery being the issue. If it won't boot they will replace it. They won't be able to tell if it is rooted because it won't boot. If you were flashing a radio and didn't let it finish or the battery died during the process, you are bricked.
Does the charge light flash when plugged in?
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The light doesnt change
clean off the battery contacts
the same exact thing happened to me. i read in another post that the TP2 battery was a suitable replacement, so i checked the VDC and mA and they were exact and also the contacts were in the right place. (looks exactly like the evo batt just black instead of red in retrospect). It was a good call on the TP2 battery. My evos batt died on me tonight while it was charging. no light while plugged into OEM wall charger, no blinking, nothin, I wasnt even using it, never had a problem before. luckly i was just chargin up my old TP2 to give to my girlfriend. popped in that battery and the evo came right up. popped the evo battery in my TP2 and it appears to be charging. curiously the evo appears to be charging the tp2 batt now aswell. so i dont know what happened... one positive thing is that i know i have 2 batteries now. a negative is that my gf cant have my TP2 untill i get this sorted.
anyone have any insight as to what is goin on? or why this happened? if my charging port has gone bad why is the tp2 batt charging in the evo? and if the evo battery went bad why is it charging in the TP2?
i am using the stock sprint evo rom. not scared to root, just havent yet.
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the same exact thing happened to me. i read in another post that the TP2 battery was a suitable replacement, so i checked the VDC and mA and they were exact and also the contacts were in the right place. (looks exactly like the evo batt just black instead of red in retrospect). It was a good call on the TP2 battery. My evos batt died on me tonight while it was charging. no light while plugged into OEM wall charger, no blinking, nothin, I wasnt even using it, never had a problem before. luckly i was just chargin up my old TP2 to give to my girlfriend. popped in that battery and the evo came right up. popped the evo battery in my TP2 and it appears to be charging. curiously the evo appears to be charging the tp2 batt now aswell. so i dont know what happened... one positive thing is that i know i have 2 batteries now. a negative is that my gf cant have my TP2 untill i get this sorted.
anyone have any insight as to what is goin on? or why this happened? if my charging port has gone bad why is the tp2 batt charging in the evo? and if the evo battery went bad why is it charging in the TP2?
i am using the stock sprint evo rom. not scared to root, just havent yet.
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Take the original battery to sprint. Tell them the story and get a replacement, ask for some free accessory since you've helped them isolate a reliability issue.
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There are two known issues with the Evo to be aware of. The first is the charging bug. If the Evo shuts off due to low battery level there is the possibility that the charging circuit fails to recognize the dead battery as even being there and will not charge. The workaround is to charge the dead battery in another compatible phone or use an external battery charger. This is supposed to be fixed in the next update but we'll see.
The second is the thermal sensor bug. The thermal cut off starts to trigger at lower and lower temps til even freezing the phone won't work. I thought the local service center was joking til I actually saw it reproduced. This is a hardware issue and the only fix is a replacement phone.
The first issue is intermittent but knowledgeable service centers are aware of this and will either charge the dead battery or swap out with a charged one.
The second issue is reproducible but can take some time to do so depending on how far off the sensor is. Again, knowledgeable service centers are aware of this and will want to reproduce it before ordering a replacement.
Not sure what technical thong is happening, but I do know I panicked when it happened to me, bit it turns out if you try to charge EVO from a USB port while its in the recovery mode it will eventually drain and **** off. I forgot I was on recovery mode and came back to what you described. After doing the swap with my GF's EVO and realizing my battery was fine, I remembered how I had left the phone in the first place and Googled it to confirm that will cause the dead EVO scare.
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This has happened to me twice, but since I was on the extended battery from sprint, I would just pop my stock battery in and it powered up fine. Each time I just brought my battery in to sprint and they replaced it. Also, when it happened to me the charging light wasn't turning on or anything.
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OK friends, same thing happening here to me today.
Here's my story: Last night, working fine, running stock turbo rom and netarchy cfs-havs-sbc-4.3.4 kernel for about a month, working great.
Used Kernel manager and flashed to cfs-suv-nohavs-nosbc and it was working great. Figured I didnt need the extra batter life/damage risk anymore. Went to sleep, phone on my bed.
Wake up today, phone is fully unresponsive. Take the battery out, put it back in, unresponsive. nothing whatsoever when holding down power, volume, etc.
When I plug it in, the orange battery led comes on and off.
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OK friends, same thing happening here to me today.
Here's my story: Last night, working fine, running stock turbo rom and netarchy cfs-havs-sbc-4.3.4 kernel for about a month, working great.
Used Kernel manager and flashed to cfs-suv-nohavs-nosbc and it was working great. Figured I didnt need the extra batter life/damage risk anymore. Went to sleep, phone on my bed.
Wake up today, phone is fully unresponsive. Take the battery out, put it back in, unresponsive. nothing whatsoever when holding down power, volume, etc.
When I plug it in, the orange battery led comes on and off.
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Blinking charge light means that the battery v has dropped below the required v to turn on the phone. I see 4-5 Evo's a day like this as well as the charge bug.
I actually got it booting again somehow. Now, it consistently turns on, will boot to the bootloader, but recovery doesnt work and it wont boot into the phone. It does search for pc36 image though... i might try that.
I just sit here and shake my head on a daily basis when I see people talk about problems and inevitably, and I'm not saying this is applicable in this case, but they say in their post they were using ROM or Kernel Manager.....
I have bought two used G3's now and both had to be returned due to the same problem: fairly frequent random shutdowns and reboots.
I have rad that this is quite a common problem and may be due to tbe battery, however no solution seems to be a 100% fix.
I'm now considering whether to bother trying to get a third replacement: perhaps all G3s will suffer from this major problem. Aside frkm this major issue the phone is awesome and perfectly priced.
So, how common actually is this problem? Who else has had it?
Could you all perhaps post the date of manufacturing of your battery, and anything you have found that solves / helps the issue.
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I have bought two used G3's now and both had to be returned due to the same problem: fairly frequent random shutdowns and reboots.
I have rad that this is quite a common problem and may be due to tbe battery, however no solution seems to be a 100% fix.
I'm now considering whether to bother trying to get a third replacement: perhaps all G3s will suffer from this major problem. Aside frkm this major issue the phone is awesome and perfectly priced.
So, how common actually is this problem? Who else has had it?
Could you all perhaps post the date of manufacturing of your battery, and anything you have found that solves / helps the issue.
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My old(stock) battery was made in 2014 (i don't remember the date).I couldn't use the device without the charger because it would go on bootloop.
Bought a new battery(made on 2016) and everything got solved.
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My old(stock) battery was made in 2014 (i don't remember the date).I couldn't use the device without the charger because it would go on bootloop.
Bought a new battery(made on 2016) and everything got solved.
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Thanks, that's useful. I was wondering if it was a problem with early batteries.
No one else?
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I purchased an extra battery and a cradle in Aug2014 and had no issues until this summer when my phone would bootloop ocassionally with one of the batteries, and then eventually it wouldn't boot at all and just bootlooped. So I bought another from LG for $15( http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phone-batteries ) and all is well. The date code on the working old one is 6/9/2014 and the new one is 8/22/2016; the one that died & I replaced was also 6/9/2014. LG batteries die a strange, and sometimes sudden death that can make it look like the phone is messed up. Most phones give you a warning - faster dissipation, faster charge time - but not so much on the G3...just random death at random battery %, bootloop, and all kinds of weirdness.
I bought a new battery (made in 2016, old one was from 2014) and i havent seen any random restarts when the phone is bellow 15%. Also noticed that my battery lasts alot more.
Mine is definitely battery related. I bought 2 spare batteries (LG branded one, but from ebay) and one causes my G3 to reboot often. The other one doesn't at all.
I'm getting this a lot lately, have never replaced the battery since getting the phone roughly two years ago. Good to know that others have replaced the battery and it has resolved the problem.
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The OEM batteries last about 1-2 years for us before they start causing reboots. But that was easy to diagnose.
The real reboot/shutdown culprit for us was overheating. The heat dissipation is poor in the G3's design. Using a thermal pad on the SoC was a 100% fix for our 2 G3's. It dropped the SoC temp 10-15 C, and we haven't had a prob since. Easy and cheap.
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The OEM batteries last about 1-2 years for us before they start causing reboots. But that was easy to diagnose.
The real reboot/shutdown culprit for us was overheating. The heat dissipation is poor in the G3's design. Using a thermal pad on the SoC was a 100% fix for our 2 G3's. It dropped the SoC temp 10-15 C, and we haven't had a prob since. Easy and cheap.
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Thanks for this. Have you got any links or info for how to do this thermal pad fix?
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Thanks for this. Have you got any links or info for how to do this thermal pad fix?
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There is actually a thread on using thermal paste for this, but I strongly recommend using a pad, due to the expansion of paste after it heats. I'll give you a quick guide here and for others in this thread.
To start you will need a kit like this if you don't have one already. They are handy to have anyways because a kit like that can open most modern small gadgets.
Then you'll need the thermal pad. For a perfect fit, I would use a 15x15x0.5mm non-metallic pad like this. You don't have to get that one, it's just an example. You could also get a larger one with the same 0.5mm thickness, and just cut it down to 15x15mm.
Use this video to disassemble the G3. It's the best one I have found so far. Of course, you don't have to disassemble it all the way like in the video. Just enough to expose the SoC chip (the biggest and most obvious chip on the board, you can't miss it).
Things I recommend when applying the pad, but not required:
- Perform the install in a clean, static-free environment.
- Be delicate when removing the ribbon cables. The tool kit mentioned above makes this 100% easier.
- Before applying, clean both the surface of the SoC and the surface of the metal phone frame indent where the other side of the pad will make contact with alcohol or something similar.
- When reassembling, tighten all screws as much as you can without stripping them. This ensures the gps/wifi/radio contacts are good.
My GF and I have been using this thermal pad mod for over 2 years now on our LS990s with no problems. I used 6wmk pads on both. Others have reported wifi/gps reception problems, but I found this resulted from using too thick of a thermal pad (1mm thick or more), or using paste.
Hope that helps! Good luck!
Had them when I got my (used) LGG3 in 8/15..
Replaced the SD card and retflashed to stock.
No problems since.
Most stable phone I've ever owned by far (JB'd iPhone 5 rebooted waayy too many times f.e.)
Either a dying battery or the infamous connectors issue with LG manufactured phones.
If the latter, please refer to @AlwaysLucky guide or something similar.
Do NOT PUT YOUR MOTHERBOARD IN THE OVEN.
Solution on Overheat and Reboots
Hey everyone!!!
My Device (An T-Mobile D851) has Rebooting issues and Screen Dying before (Even with a pair on new batterys)... So, I made an Guide to resolve this problem, related on overheat in the SoC.
Here´s the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-fix-display-flickering-overheat-t3563068
I bought a new battery which claimed to be new and genuine, but when I tried it in my phone I straight away got the instant shut downs. At first I thought that It must be the phone and not the battery, but today I tested it by having my old battery in which was currently causing no shutdowns, then i put the 'new' battery in and I got the shut downs again, then I put my old battery in and the shut downs stopped.
The issue seems to relate to how long the battery has been without mains charge, rather than the level of the battery.
e.g. If the battery has been off charge for 11+ hours but is on 70% I might still get the shutdowns, or if it's been off charge for -5 hours but is 20% battery I won't get them.
My big problem right now is finding a place in the UK to buy a genuine new LG battery, or possibly an Anker one.
Any ideas anyone? LG UK doesn't seem to stock them like they do in the US. Amazon sellers are a lottery, and eBay is like the wild west!
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Any ideas anyone? LG UK doesn't seem to stock them like they do in the US. Amazon sellers are a lottery, and eBay is like the wild west!
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Polarcell battery from eBay run really great and it is around 20€, I have one since september and I am very happy.
i have same issue with my lg g3. i have bought new battery too but nothing worked, even i did flash it but still having same issue. help plz
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i have same issue with my lg g3. i have bought new battery too but nothing worked, even i did flash it but still having same issue. help plz
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Sorry, it's a mystery to me. This is why I'm rather dubious of claims that this is solely a battery problem.
I bought another brand new battery and I still get the problem.
I have tried multiple things:
- Safe mode
- Deactivating battery optimization
- turning off background sync and backup
- turning off wifi and data
- rooting
- uninstalling apps
This seems to be related to how long the phone has been off charge for, but it definitely ISN'T a battery problem: I've tried 3 different phones and 6 different batteries and they have all had the same problem.
The only thing I can think it must be is either a problem with the charger giving incorrect voltage /current or some kind of circuitry or module that degrades/ corrupts between charges.
I don't have an original LG G3 charger of 1.8A, so I'm using a 2.0A one. Perhaps that's the problem.
Having never had a phone that has once rebooted previous to the several G3s I've now had I'm at the point where I'll get rid of this manufactured broken phone and never buy LG again.
Anyone have any good suggestions for a similar spec / priced phone (used). I've already tried a Xperia Z2 but the camera was absolutely dreadful!
I had this problem recently in which I had to change the battery and all is well but sadly, my phone's bezel got cracked spontaneously, but this time. It is at the IR sensor, so LG DO have quality control issues, but first things first - buy an OEM battery - they can be had for £5 at least on eBay.
Speaking of chargers, I had an LG charger that came with the LG G3 I bought, but that died. Fu©king Korean piece of $hit.
First of all, hello to all Note 4 owners and my deepest sympathies to those affected by this "bug" (whatever it actually is).
I got used Note 4 in March 2016. It was trade in for my Sony Xperia and guy told me he had it for around a year. I liked this nice device. It had great display and served me very well. Excellent, even better term.
It was until December 2016 when dreaded bug appeared, and I knew nothing about it at the time. You already know it - lags, restarts, freezes, unable to turn on, going to download mode, harder and harder to start up...
How it happened is what amazes me most. I have 2 batteries, both original. I exchange them sometimes when I am on longer time without charger. This night (before it all happened) I let phone charge down to 0% because it showed false % in battery bar. It would die at 15% and not charge over 92% for example. This was factory battery and not my spare one I got later. I found out battery % is reset each time I let it charge down all the way, then after it shuts down I charge it up and it fixes the percentage bar temporarily. Anyway, as I was saying, that night (day before I experienced the bug) I wasn't in a good mood and phone died on me sometimes in the early night. I was annoyed and I started up the phone, it got to homescreen then shut off because it was empty. I did it again. This time it got to boot animation. Again. Again. How foolish of me. I did it until phone couldn't be turned on at all. Then I set it up to charge and left it overnight. Tomorrow I took it and left to work. It was peak 100%.
Around 10AM I got some messages on facebook messenger, and I wanted to check them out and reply, I took a break from working. In middle of my typing, phone simply froze. Froze, it wouldn't react to physical buttons, virtual keyboard, nothing. Screen was on non stop with frozen facebook messenger, virtual keyboard on screen and my unfinished message.
I took out battery and turned it back on. Phone was never the same since then... First "light" freezes and after second or two it "let's go" and all messages I typed appear instantly in messenger. Sometimes I press power button to wake device it wouldn't right away. It was getting harder and harder... after investigation I learned about this production "flaw" from samsung, I've read many pages about this error, many of those here on XDA (by the way community here is wonderful)...
I bought another device because Note was getting in state of unusable. I left it alone on table and it stand there for some time.
I couldn't give up it's wonderful screen, power, pretty TouchWiz... and after I've read a lot about this, I decided to buy new motherboard. I got one from ebay in late August and it arrived sometimes in middle September. 60 US dollars. I asked seller will all functions work, is IMEI blacklisted, is WI FI working, does it has good memory chip (which is culprit for bug it seems) and seller kept saying to me everything works, is tested one by one before shipping, and he said "it must work, 1 year warranty!" I smiled a bit, it's how he said it.
I ordered also some tools for disassembling phone as I wanted to do it myself. Very cheap, 7$ and there is everything there, really nice kit. It got to me before motherboard. Then it arrived. Same night I wanted to do it, I couldn't wait to use my note again. I missed it.
One friend at work which owns mobile store and repair, told me to wait until tomorrow, he will do it for cheap but I was not patient enough. I thought I can do it. After couple of youtube videos I started it... Bottom line is I didn't heat up the device to loosen the glue and I ended up breaking the screen... And couldn't attach screen to motherboard, because Samsung made it hard without removing the screen too. I went to my friend and he scolded me for not waiting few hours and eventually found me used screen for 75$ more... They are 150$ around but he took it from some friend of his own to help me because he felt sorry and he got that friend's phone, got out the screen and transplanted it to my motherboard and casing over for free. I have working Note again...
Now, I don't know what to do with it? Do I sell it? Use it? I felt free to attach some screenshots from it, to add up to collective knowledge of XDA (it was my intention with this story in the first place). Who knows... maybe some info from here might help someone, sometimes.
Phone info showed my phone (motherboard) is made in 01.2016. Brickbug check app can't identify the memory chip (shows production date as 11/1999 which is not possible for note 4). It is fast now, one screenshot proves it. Friend said he stress tested the board (whatever it means) and it seems fine. All functions work, I tested everything too. Board color looks different - shade of green is different. KNOX warranty void status 0x0.
What is opinion of fellow XDA's about this? Do I use this thing, sell it... it cost me more than it's worth, and selling it will be just extracting mere costs I invested. But I like the device... I feel like just going through with it, whatever happens this time... maybe my pain with emmc fail is over.
Maybe some other members reading this, can screenshot their brickbug check app statuses? Those which have "healthy" devices and those having emmc issues too? Maybe we can build database of good chips, and which devices may be "safe"... I will sure add my results here in attachments.
I wish everyone owning this good little device much luck and as less problems as possible...
PS Mods can move thread to some other one regarding this issue but I'd like it stays thread of it's own... but I will conform to decision of Mod team. This is wonderful and helping site, thanks goes to owners which built it and mod team keeping the order, as well as userbase for contributing to collective knowledge and "hacking" the android and devices in a good way.
StreetKing
Two and a half years and still no issues. I'll gladly contribute to your database since I seem to have one of the "good" chips.
G900V KLTE - BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH PHONE DIES UNEXPECTEDLY!!! (new battery)
Still having a problem with black screen of death. I had made a post about it earlier in the week but no response. I have kept everything basically the same, except I use Magisk 21.4-23 (newest), and TWRP 3.5.2 upgraded from 3.5.0 like maybe a couple months ago. Ever since last month have had the problem. I have brand new batteries installed as I thought maybe that was what was causing it (previous experience). Screen goes black, phone vibrates a couple times, then I have to battery pull to try to power on. Sometimes it works, other times it doesnt. In other instances have had screen freeze and get all static and soft reboot itself. I can see the white captive touch buttons working and sound but screen does not wake. Battery pulls for X amount of time does not solve the screen issue. I have flashed correct firmware several times in ODIN. I had this black screen issue and phone died while at the store earlier today. I need a phone thats dependable! This has been happening on any custom roms I use 14.1-18.1. I'm so frustrated I nearly broke my phone in half last night!
Any ideas what's causing the screen issue?
I had a very similar problem on my Galaxy S7. It used to suddenly shutdown, sometimes reboots by itself. Sometimes it won't just turn on at all except after some time.
Sometimes, it vibrates, shows the bootsplash for a few milliseconds, then shutdown.
What a coincidence that when I upgraded to TWRP 3.5, it was when the problem started to hit.
I was using crDroid based on R, It wasn't stable, so I thought the problem was the ROM/Kernel/Recovery. I tried an already known stable ROM.
The same thing happened, then I was semi sure that it is on hardware problem. I teared the device apart. The problem was .. Water Damage.
I thought the phone was water proof/resistant. What a disappointment. Anyway I've cleaned every molecules of water from the phone. It worked fine afterwards.
But I lost the battery percentage diode or something, so the phone can't read battery percentage/voltage.
It took me 3 months to know all these things. I hope it be of help to you.
Mohamedkam000 said:
I had a very similar problem on my Galaxy S7. It used to suddenly shutdown, sometimes reboots by itself. Sometimes it won't just turn on at all except after some time.
Sometimes, it vibrates, shows the bootsplash for a few milliseconds, then shutdown.
What a coincidence that when I upgraded to TWRP 3.5, it was when the problem started to hit.
I was using crDroid based on R, It wasn't stable, so I thought the problem was the ROM/Kernel/Recovery. I tried an already known stable ROM.
The same thing happened, then I was semi sure that it is on hardware problem. I teared the device apart. The problem was .. Water Damage.
I thought the phone was water proof/resistant. What a disappointment. Anyway I've cleaned every molecules of water from the phone. It worked fine afterwards.
But I lost the battery percentage diode or something, so the phone can't read battery percentage/voltage.
It took me 3 months to know all these things. I hope it be of help to you.
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So I did some more testing tonight. I first downgraded TWRP to 3.5.0 from 3.5.2 had same issues. Now i'm on 3.4.0, and I pounded on the display upside down while in recovery. It did the reboot thing and screen went black. Phone would not power up, even after removing and re-installing batteries. It has taken several tries with and without plugging it in. Finally it has booted up and I went into recovery to re-flash yet another rom. The phone would do the black screen thing at random and have issues if placed down too hard.
Obviously it's not software related it's hardware.
So my question is the display bad or the motherboard?
Should I just look into getting a 5G brand new phone or try to get it repaired somewhere?
I've been considering switching to T-mobile once I get a 5G device.
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So I did some more testing tonight. I first downgraded TWRP to 3.5.0 from 3.5.2 had same issues. Now i'm on 3.4.0, and I pounded on the display upside down while in recovery. It did the reboot thing and screen went black. Phone would not power up, even after removing and re-installing batteries. It has taken several tries with and without plugging it in. Finally it has booted up and I went into recovery to re-flash yet another rom. The phone would do the black screen thing at random and have issues if placed down too hard.
Obviously it's not software related it's hardware.
So my question is the display bad or the motherboard?
Should I just look into getting a 5G brand new phone or try to get it repaired somewhere?
I've been considering switching to T-mobile once I get a 5G device.
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That's obviously water damage. I used to get all that on my old S7. It is fixable, you need to untie your motherboard, heat it till it literally dries up. Then it won't repeat that BSOD thing.
However, if you tried to boot the device while there's still some water, it will cause more damage to the components, diodes.
Galaxy S5 is for about 40$ in my country. You should consider buying another, more recent phone. Midrange 5G phones are for about 250$ - 400$ here. Though I still miss 2014 phones.
Mohamedkam000 said:
That's obviously water damage. I used to get all that on my old S7. It is fixable, you need to untie your motherboard, heat it till it literally dries up. Then it won't repeat that BSOD thing.
However, if you tried to boot the device while there's still some water, it will cause more damage to the components, diodes.
Galaxy S5 is for about 40$ in my country. You should consider buying another, more recent phone. Midrange 5G phones are for about 250$ - 400$ here. Though I still miss 2014 phones.
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I have no idea how to untie a motherboard or take apart my phone. I'm sure I'd end up doing more damage to it knowing my luck. I have no such tools either to take my phone apart. I've seen S5 for sale here in US for $50 or less and motherboards for a little less. Right now it's hard to afford a brand new 5G phone.
I'm not sure how my phone got water damage? I've always been careful with it over the years never submerged or anything.
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I have no idea how to untie a motherboard or take apart my phone. I'm sure I'd end up doing more damage to it knowing my luck. I have no such tools either to take my phone apart. I've seen S5 for sale here in US for $50 or less and motherboards for a little less. Right now it's hard to afford a brand new 5G phone.
I'm not sure how my phone got water damage? I've always been careful with it over the years never submerged or anything.
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Water Damage usually shows a few days up to a few weeks after it's interaction with water. I thought S7 was water resistant.
A tiny drop of water can cause this issue.
Don't know why people rush towards 5G phones, knowing it ain't stable just yet. I've heard USA is shutting down 2G/3G, so the least you should own is a Dual-VoLTE device. I got A70 for ~162$.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Water Damage usually shows a few days up to a few weeks after it's interaction with water. I thought S7 was water resistant.
A tiny drop of water can cause this issue.
Don't know why people rush towards 5G phones, knowing it ain't stable just yet. I've heard USA is shutting down 2G/3G, so the least you should own is a Dual-VoLTE device. I got A70 for ~162$.
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Yes 3G has been getting shutdown. 5G is still building out the network. If I were to stay with 4G I might as well stick with S5 since I know it and all my data is saved with titanium backup.
I have read to soak my phone in isopropyl alcohol for up to a couple hours. https://www.orduh.com/water-damaged-samsung-galaxy-s5/
It might be cheaper for me to just find another S5 right now. Can I restore backed up titanium data to a different phone?
I got this phone back in 2015 off eBay after my developer edition SD card slot was broken. Near the front camera it looked like some sort of damage may have occurred after I had received the phone. But I didn't have any of these problems other than a few years ago the BSOD once in awhile which went away.
Currently the BSOD issues have been since earlier this month/last month. As long as I don't put my phone down on table or hit it too hard it has no issue. If it's placed on table as gentle as a feather it's fine. But I have to do lot of battery pulls when I'm out doing errands walking with it.
And screen takes forever to wake when receiving phone calls sometimes I miss them. It's very delayed.
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Yes 3G has been getting shutdown. 5G is still building out the network. If I were to stay with 4G I might as well stick with S5 since I know it and all my data is saved with titanium backup.
I have read to soak my phone in isopropyl alcohol for up to a couple hours. https://www.orduh.com/water-damaged-samsung-galaxy-s5/
It might be cheaper for me to just find another S5 right now. Can I restore backed up titanium data to a different phone?
I got this phone back in 2015 off eBay after my developer edition SD card slot was broken. Near the front camera it looked like some sort of damage may have occurred after I had received the phone. But I didn't have any of these problems other than a few years ago the BSOD once in awhile which went away.
Currently the BSOD issues have been since earlier this month/last month. As long as I don't put my phone down on table or hit it too hard it has no issue. If it's placed on table as gentle as a feather it's fine. But I have to do lot of battery pulls when I'm out doing errands walking with it.
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So I looked at the water damage indicator sensor. My phone's patch is still white with a reddish x pattern, there is no water damage. If there was damage it would be all red.
There's no other explanation for BSOD the way you described except for damaged components, unless the phone was water damaged, it must have received a very hard hit.
That hit will definitely affect the screen, if the phone was refurbished, you won't notice it, cause the motherboard is connected to a good working device.
If you think it is software, there's bootloader, baseband, kernel, and system that you can change to confirm your thoughts.
It's very easy to untie S5, only needs one tool.
Mohamedkam000 said:
There's no other explanation for BSOD the way you described except for damaged components, unless the phone was water damaged, it must have received a very hard hit.
That hit will definitely affect the screen, if the phone was refurbished, you won't notice it, cause the motherboard is connected to a good working device.
If you think it is software, there's bootloader, baseband, kernel, and system that you can change to confirm your thoughts.
It's very easy to untie S5, only needs one tool.
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I know it's not software the bootloader, kernels, baseband have all been same and worked fine up until this month or so. I smacked the front of it while in recovery to see if it would have the issue. Sure enough it is hardware related! I just messaged a local repair shop on how much a fix would cost. I dont feel comfortable taking apart my phone and I dont have tools or anything.