My X compact is on its way!
Do you guys recommend rooting or keeping stock?
Important to me would be smooth performance, battery and camera.
Thank you
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I recommend rooting the stock!
there is not actually many custom roms for this phone, and stock rom is really good if you just root it
Kianush said:
I recommend rooting the stock!
there is not actually many custom roms for this phone, and stock rom is really good if you just root it
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Thanks. Once rooted on stock, what changes you recommend?
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Kianush said:
I recommend rooting the stock!
there is not actually many custom roms for this phone, and stock rom is really good if you just root it
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Paranoid Android team recently added official support for x compact, but I don't know if they have a stable version yet.
You can't get better than rooted stock, custom ROMS always seem to have issues that prevent them from being a full daily driver.
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You can't get better than rooted stock, custom ROMS always seem to have issues that prevent them from being a full daily driver.
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Any recommendations for changes to make on stock one rooted? Thanks
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Any recommendations for changes to make on stock one rooted? Thanks
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The usual, debloat, new fonts, theme the system, couple of build.prop edits and that's about it for me.
My 2 cent.
Stock ROM is very good. You *could* root to debloat, but I have preferred to just deactivate the useless app (which are on the /system partition, so that you won't get a real advantage in removing them).
At the moment I don't see a big thing in rooting the device. On the other side, you could loose some interesting feature (e.g., vodafone wallet, or some home banking functions)..
Enjoy your Xc!
mario24601 said:
Thanks. Once rooted on stock, what changes you recommend?
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I actually did not change anything except for some build.prop changes
Stock rom is very good as is, I just recommended root so you can use some apps like greenify :good::good:
A very good thing about Xperia devices is the camera, and with a custom rom the camera app is always lacking (unless they can use/steal the stock camera app?)
Otherwise, I don't care about any other Sony apps.
Rooted stock is very good though I'm happy.
If PA has good camera and I can pass safety net, I might switch one day.
Thanks all! I'll look into build prop, to be honest not sure what this does
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I'm in the same boat. Went from a rooted Z1 Compact to the X compact. It seems so tedious to root the X Compact so I haven't done it yet. However I can say I am missing having root, missing Titanium backup etc. We'll see how we go. Hoping for someone to release a guide to root nougat without having to go back to MM.
Mine came with N loaded. It is international version.
I've yet to try it out extensively.
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mario24601 said:
Thanks all! I'll look into build prop, to be honest not sure what this does
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Don't get too hung up on build.prop mods as a lot of them don't work anymore if they even did in the first place. The only two entries I have in mine are...
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persist.adb.notify=0
fw.show_multiuserui=0
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Hey Guys
I don't want to offend anyone especially the DEVs but I consider the N7 to be on the bleeding edge, what value does a custom ROM have. Again, I'm used to the world of the HD2 so I can honestly say I appreciate the work of every single DEV and custom ROM but I"m just a little unsure of what a custom ROM on this device brings to the table. Are there features i'm missing?
thanks all
Obviously, custom ROMs give people certain features and optimizations that aren't available in the stock ROM. But I understand where your coming from. Most people use custom ROMs on devices that don't have the latest Android version, and want the bleeding edge of software available. On the Nexus 7, and most Nexus devices, you are on the bleeding edge, and are always up to date. Until a ROM comes out with a must-have feature, stock ROM suits my needs perfectly on my Nexus.
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Well the only reason I am going to root, is to be able to do a fail safe backup.
Using Clockwork mod, you get to backup everything including the way you have it set, the launcher especially.
I just root, and just use the stock rom.
And some apps require root.
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Probably a dumb question but does root prevent you from getting and installing OTAs?
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Probably a dumb question but does root prevent you from getting and installing OTAs?
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It shouldnt but youll lose root.
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It shouldnt but youll lose root.
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Gotcha. That's a bit of a bummer. So the only way to get any new features or bug fixes from the OTA is to flash a ROM that implements them?
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Gotcha. That's a bit of a bummer. So the only way to get any new features or bug fixes from the OTA is to flash a ROM that implements them?
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Look into voodoo ota rootkeeper, it will restore root after an update. I've never had to use it as this is my first Nexus device, and applied all updates before rooting. Also, ROMs generally implement updates within a very short time frame so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Look into voodoo ota rootkeeper, it will restore root after an update. I've never had to use it as this is my first Nexus device, and applied all updates before rooting. Also, ROMs generally implement updates within a very short time frame so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Thanks. I'll check it out.
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Actually I did a search for Voodoo OTA rootkeeper and someone posted this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772539
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i can confirm OTA update did not cause me to lose root/superuser and voodoo is not needed.
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This is a nexus. If you want to remain on stock..unlock bootloader, install custom recovery, flash Su zip, flash stock recovery if you want OTAs. If an ota comes, flash it. If you lose root, it will take less than 5 mins to set up
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thanks all,
i have unlocked and rooted the N7 and am not questioning the value of those 2 items...trust me that is a huge deal. But i do appreciate the comments--I didn't want to deviate from Stock if it didn't do much and it doesn't seem like any of the new ROMs have made substantial enough changes to warrant a switch.
thanks
Rugged.
Rugged96 said:
thanks all,
i have unlocked and rooted the N7 and am not questioning the value of those 2 items...trust me that is a huge deal. But i do appreciate the comments--I didn't want to deviate from Stock if it didn't do much and it doesn't seem like any of the new ROMs have made substantial enough changes to warrant a switch.
thanks
Rugged.
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Obviously it's not like a Verizon device that has a bunch of bloat and excess so out of the box we are looking great.
Some of the roms are and will be simply stock deodexed/zip-aligned which allow for more customization/theming etc.
Right off the bat, I'd like a stock based rom that I can easily theme that has the default Adroid browser with Flash installed. I don't care about launchers and tablet modes, etc.
The good thing is there should be a huge variety of lightly tweaked to heavily tweaked roms available eventually. If you don't need anything different, then you are good to go and will spend less time staying up late flashing your device. :good:
I receive my Nexus 4 tomorrow, Im still debating whether i should root the phone or just keep it stock, any recommendations? Thank you
Depends if you want to enhance your user experience or be happy with how it is
I say root but use it a couple days and once you find that you're installing apps that require su permissions then root it.
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zeffy621 said:
I receive my Nexus 4 tomorrow, Im still debating whether i should root the phone or just keep it stock, any recommendations? Thank you
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Ideally NO!
First use for a couple of days and check for any software or hardware related issues also check the battery backup with stock rom,kernel and then you are free to root.
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Ideally NO!
First use for a couple of days and check for any software or hardware related issues also check the battery backup with stock rom,kernel and then you are free to root.
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what rom/kernal do you use?
zeffy621 said:
what rom/kernal do you use?
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currently stock with franco kernel as rumors are out that 4.3 is goin to be released this week/month.
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currently stock with franco kernel as rumors are out that 4.3 is goin to be released this week/month.
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Keeping the stock rom will not let you update to 4.3 if you have a custom recovery installed. //not true
I couldn't imagine using an unrooted phone, rooted mine within hours. But as suggested, you should check yours first for a couple of days for defects, then root.
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Keeping the stock rom will not let you update to 4.3 if you have a custom recovery installed.
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Having a custom recovery will not prevent you from receiving or installing the ota update
From my BLACKED OUT N4
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Having a custom recovery will not prevent you from receiving or installing the ota update
From my BLACKED OUT N4
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Really? Well, one learns new things every day.
Idk why you would get a nexus and not root. They're made for that. Screen color calibration, pie for more screen space, smoothness and longer battery life, USB otg. The list goes on! I didn't even use mine stock for more than a couple of minutes
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zeffy621 said:
I receive my Nexus 4 tomorrow, Im still debating whether i should root the phone or just keep it stock, any recommendations? Thank you
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Of the few Android devices that I own, stock systems have a few disadvantages to my taste:
1. BLOATWARE UP THE A$$
2. SO-SO OPERATING SPEED AND SOME LAG
3. DULL "EVERYBODY-HAS-IT" STOCK SYSTEM => BORING
Advantages of stock systems:
1. Somewhat more or most stable.
2. Much simpler to adjust settings without too many new technical terms or technicalities.
3. Warranty stays if you have it.
I'm still new and still play around with custom ROMs, as I am heavy on eliminating of proprietary software staying on my devices, both computers and smartphones. If it's there, it has to serve a purpose; otherwise, it MUST be gone, not just DISABLED.
I'd definitely root it! To get all the extra goodies which stock doesn't have (like Pie, hide navbar, themes, tweaks, undervolting, underclocking, adblock etc). But try out stock vanilla android and see it root is actually needed for you.
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
riz157 said:
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
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No update available for my model unfortunately.
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I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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Hmmm....are current roms poor or no improvement?
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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But for a popular device like taht i won't take too long
I'm tossing up the same thing and wondering if anyone can answer this question. If I flash back to stock firmware after rooting will device status revert to official thus allowing me to have ota updates again or does setting the knox flag mean I will be system status modified forever?
I know knox flag can't be reverted but what about system status?
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jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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According to this website xposed should work? Are you using version 2.2?
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Auto root by chainfire is the safest and easiest way ti root.
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riz157 said:
Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Rooting or putting a custom rom(based on touchwiz) won't probably change anything.
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Yes that's true simply rooting wont get rid of lag however my main questions are which is the safest way to root and would I be able to flash generic rom via Odin? It's been awhile since I used Odin.
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Ever time I consider rooting I come across post were user bricked phone. This is really of putting don't fancy bricking my phone. However can't do with lag which is very annoying.
Which is the simplest and safest method of rooting?
Not worried about knox my Model N9005 on MJ3 FW, unlocked version from the UK. Thanks
Rooting does not brick your phone. Only users who don't read the instructions properly bricks their phones.
I have been rooting andriod phones since Samsung S2 with no bricks.
Rooting gives you 'Admin' rights on your phone and I want / need that to have full control of my device.
Rooting does not stop OTA updates but you will need to re-root for every new update.
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I had the same dilemma. I rooted my Note 1, flashed mods & ROMs, and it was eventually what I wanted. It was, however, locked in that version. I had no time to play with it any more, so left it.
On buying the Note 3, I flashed a stock ROM for the Note 1, got the updates, and it was much better than what I had customised. I guess I had my customised ROM earlier than any OTA update, so did benefit.
The other aspect is a firewall. You can now block apps from Mobile data access (although it is tedious), but not from WiFi access. You can, however, block the access that apps have to your data (although also tedious), so at least you may be safer.
Finally, we have the bloatware on the device. This generation of Andoid seems a bit better behaved than previous ones, and I can disable a lot of the stock apps, which is good. I am not finding any wakelocks (or at least not a great deal), and battery life is very good overall.
So, for me, I would like to have a firewall, but as for the rest of the system, it is perfectly good for me, and I have no current plans to root this device.
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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dholms said:
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Do you keep Knox counter at 0x0 if you fiddle with deleting stock apps?
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What Roms currently work with pay? I know Google recently blocked post with systemless root however there is a trick to get it working again. In on pure nexus ROM and I get some real bass lag and battery life. Wanted to try a different rom bit not sure which to pick...
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What Roms currently work with pay? I know Google recently blocked post with systemless root however there is a trick to get it working again. In on pure nexus ROM and I get some real bass lag and battery life. Wanted to try a different rom bit not sure which to pick...
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none, as long as your rooted android pay will not work. if you want it to work you will need unrooted stock
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none, as long as your rooted android pay will not work. if you want it to work you will need unrooted stock
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This is incorrect. Many of us are having no problems with Pure Nexus, systemless root and the chmod fix.
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What Roms currently work with pay? I know Google recently blocked post with systemless root however there is a trick to get it working again. In on pure nexus ROM and I get some real bass lag and battery life. Wanted to try a different rom bit not sure which to pick...
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Having no issues with Chroma Rom. AP works without issue using the permissions workaround.
Thanks for the replies, I may try resurrection rom soon. I'll report back if it works...
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Thanks for the replies, I may try resurrection rom soon. I'll report back if it works...
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I'm not confident, but I think it at least requires an AOSP base without CMTE. I tried setting up Pure Nexus CMTE edition and couldn't get AP working, but I set up Pure Nexus Layer edition and it works no problems (with chmod workaround of course).
So good luck. If you try, let us know how it turns out.
Pure Nexus (Not the cmte version), Elemental Kernel. Root.
Working Android Pay!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65502427&postcount=254
As the title says, not just the launcher but the whole system.
I think you'd have to flash the xposed framework and use unicon to theme it, or you can apply the themes from the galaxy themes store, which also change the icons system wide.
Hope I helped!
I am interested in this too. Samsung has the worst icons and kid-like colors. Coming from HTC, I can't stand the TouchWiz theme. I was forced to install Nova launcher, but I would like settings to be themed aswell. I saw a screenshot of someone's modified settings theme and I think he, too, claimed he used Xposed. I have Xposed installed, but I don't know what to search for in Xposed to have my settings change color. He had a 'double row' mod that also changed the skin. Anyone know how?
Ugh. I don't wanna root my phone.
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Ugh. I don't wanna root my phone.
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There is no way I would ever use a phone with no root. AdAway is something I cannot live without. Why don't you like root?
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There is no way I would ever use a phone with no root. AdAway is something I cannot live without. Why don't you like root?
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Cause of Knox and I used to go crazy with rooting and custom ROMs and kernels on my nexus 4 but all it did for me was introduce bugs and reduce performance. Besides, how would I even root without losingh everything I have atm? It'd be such a huge pain.
Yeah I wouldn't mess with kernel modifications. I just root stock for AdAway or use the most stable ROM nothing too crazy.
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Yeah I wouldn't mess with kernel modifications. I just root stock for AdAway or use the most stable ROM nothing too crazy.
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I even used to overclock and underclock, undervolt and download tons of Adreno GPU drivers.....I was crazy back then
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Cause of Knox and I used to go crazy with rooting and custom ROMs and kernels on my nexus 4 but all it did for me was introduce bugs and reduce performance. Besides, how would I even root without losingh everything I have atm? It'd be such a huge pain.
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What do you mean by "losing everything you have atm"? CF-Autoroot doesn't require wiping anything, only flash custom ROMs do.