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Nexus 6P vs Mate 8

Im looking to upgrade from a Nexus 6 to either a 6P or Mate 8. I just found this phone this morning and looks interesting. What do you think of this phone vs the 6P? Thanks for your opinions.

I have both. I came from a nexus 6. They're both great phones. My only sadness with this phone is lack of aosp or cm ROMs. As much as I really hate that, I can't put this phone down. Battery life with heavy use I'm still putting down average 6-7 hours screen on time. The 6p is pretty solid of a phone too but I'll be giving it to my gf since the mate 8 serves more than enough of its purpose.
Hopefully one day maybe we get an aosp ROM

nighthawk626 said:
I have both. I came from a nexus 6. They're both great phones. My only sadness with this phone is lack of aosp or cm ROMs. As much as I really hate that, I can't put this phone down. Battery life with heavy use I'm still putting down average 6-7 hours screen on time. The 6p is pretty solid of a phone too but I'll be giving it to my gf since the mate 8 serves more than enough of its purpose.
Hopefully one day maybe we get an aosp ROM
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i would like an aosp/CM rom as well. my problem with my N6 is battery life. i heard the 6P is better and seems like this is even better than that. i have been reading on here about issues people have been having with the phone being in chinese and issues with notifications and such. guess i need to decide if the lack of aosp with the other issues will be something i can live with for now.

No problems with notification for me and no Chinese problems either. People probably bought a Chinese model and are complaining about Chinese being on it. Go figure. And also coming from a nexus 6 I only have up due to screen being broken and unable to repair it at the moment, this fits even better in hand than the nexus 6. Solid as hell. Like I said, my only complaint is lack of aosp or cm ROMs. So far I'm able to live with it. If it gets too much, I'll serve my nexus 6 back to the States for repair. Not necessary though considering the hell of an upgrade this phone is

well, most issues and complaints here actually arise because people are too lazy to read as for custom roms, the ball started rolling on that we already have twrp, unlocked bootloader, decrypted boot image and root capability. first dev is also already working on a custom rom, so im pretty optimistic for the near future
sure, development will never get as expansive as with the nexus 6P, but hey, its a nexus
u gotta decide whats important to you: mate 8 trumps everything concerning cpu performance (even upcoming s820 according to benches thus far) and battery life. if gpu performance is important to you though, the 6P is definitely more performant, although not massively due to the higher screen resolution vs. the mate 8.
another important point: screen vs body ratio! iphone 6s plus / nexus 6p / mate 8 are all the same size, give or take 1-2mm. difference being:
iphone 5.5 inch display
nexus 5.7 inch display
mate 8 friggin 6 inch display
coming from the nexus 6 ull be surprised to have such a "small" device sport the same screen size at way smaller dimensions
and i can say the screen is super sharp, has great colors and is briiiight as heck, everything u can want in a good screen
just my 2c on the matter...
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jbmc83 said:
well, most issues and complaints here actually arise because people are too lazy to read as for custom roms, the ball started rolling on that we already have twrp, unlocked bootloader, decrypted boot image and root capability. first dev is also already working on a custom rom, so im pretty optimistic for the near future
sure, development will never get as expansive as with the nexus 6P, but hey, its a nexus
u gotta decide whats important to you: mate 8 trumps everything concerning cpu performance (even upcoming s820 according to benches thus far) and battery life. if gpu performance is important to you though, the 6P is definitely more performant, although not massively due to the higher screen resolution vs. the mate 8.
another important point: screen vs body ratio! iphone 6s plus / nexus 6p / mate 8 are all the same size, give or take 1-2mm. difference being:
iphone 5.5 inch display
nexus 5.7 inch display
mate 8 friggin 6 inch display
coming from the nexus 6 ull be surprised to have such a "small" device sport the same screen size at way smaller dimensions
and i can say the screen is super sharp, has great colors and is briiiight as heck, everything u can want in a good screen
just my 2c on the matter...
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Not looking for ETA's or anything but does the dev have a forum post or place where we can follow him?

just keep an eye out on the development section
this is the guy btw:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64985353
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Another 2 plus points for the Mate 8 that people don't give much importance but for me are relevant are the fm radio and sd card slot.

yes! i was pleasantly surprised to see the fm radio functionality

I have both and hands down the mate 8 is the winner. I got the mocha brown 64GB 4GB ram and it flies. Had notification issues with the Chinese Rom so I just converted to international and now no problems. I listen to a lot of music and this goes a lot louder and quality is much clearer. Camera seems good but I'll be testing it more over the next few days. 6p is going on eBay.
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Got a North American H915 V20, ask me anything

Hi all,
I am lucky enough to get a hold of a North American V20, H915 (Unlocked from local Carrier) locally through connections after seeing one on sale on ebay.
I also have a G5 as my daily driver prior to this and thought that it was the most underrated phone in 2016 (other than build quality). I have had every single mainstream phones out there since 2007, including the recently returned exploding Note 7
Ask if anything that you might have about it, and I will try my best to answer.
Cheers.

cy88 said:
Hi all,
I am lucky enough to get a hold of a North American V20, H915 (Unlocked from local Carrier) locally through connections after seeing one on sale on ebay.
I also have a G5 as my daily driver prior to this and thought that it was the most underrated phone in 2016 (other than build quality). I have had every single mainstream phones out there since 2007, including the recently returned exploding Note 7
Ask if anything that you might have about it, and I will try my best to answer.
Cheers.
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How's the battery life? I had a note 7 as well and now I'm checking this one out. I think I read it's a 3200m. I'm using a oneplus 3 and I'm honestly liking it. Haha
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The first day was stellar, had a full charge when I start the day and ended with 46% by the end of the day. It runs extremely cool and seem to manage the battery much better than the Note 7 and G5. The G5 does well most of the time but it's inconsistent, it could be due to the better Doze as well.
I will monitor it over the next few days and report back.

How's the camera? It seems from media they use the dual lenses in a less effective manner than the iPhone. The wide angle looks a bit weird. Can you give some overall impressions of video and stills?
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I too would like to know about the camera, as reviews have only been for the preproduction units. If you could, possibly upload a few of them. Thanks.

cy88 said:
The first day was stellar, had a full charge when I start the day and ended with 46% by the end of the day. It runs extremely cool and seem to manage the battery much better than the Note 7 and G5. The G5 does well most of the time but it's inconsistent, it could be due to the better Doze as well.
I will monitor it over the next few days and report back.
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Glad to hear that. I had the G5. It was horrible. Main reason I got rid of it. I liked the camera and features though.
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OK Google detection while screen is off. Coming from a note 7, where OK Google didn't work while screen was off unless plugged in or charging wirelessly.?
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Are you able to provide impressions of the phone playing high definition audio files through high impedance headphones? Thanks
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Any way to make a dump so we can start working on roms??
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Pixelation? buffer? during some mkv 1080p flac hi10 encoded video? =D

OP, what is reception strength like?
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Any way to make a dump so we can start working on roms??
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So. This.

How is the build quality? Sturdy? Slippery to hold? Awkwardly large?
How's the fluidity of the software? Is Nougat pretty awesome? LGs skin pretty minimal?
How's the fingerprint scanner? Fast? Accurate? Positioned well?
How slow is the camera in terms of opening?
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Whats the color temperature of the screen? Is it more on the cold side or warm?
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I think he's over whelmed lol
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We scared him off he was like hell ya I get to be famous and now o crap what do I do to many peeps.
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Of the reasons I'm interested in buying the V20, the audio quality and loudness is tops. Appreciate if you can give some feedback on your experience so far, thanks!

Speaker power compared with iphone 7 plus if you can?

Hurry back! How's the Speaker sound, Camera quality, UI Performance, etc.?

How does the v20 sound with wireless headphones vs wired headphones (same,better, worse)? Also how is overall sound vs note 7?

Please tell us the screen on time you get after you cycle through the battery a few times.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Huawei Mate 10, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Huawei Mate 10 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Mini review
Camera: poor. Nearly every photo looks like an oil painting
Screen: lovely
Speakers: great but a tad boomy
Battery: on average I'm getting 6 hours after each charge which is great compared to my 3 on the Nexus 6p
Speed: no issues at all
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Forgot to mention that the charging speed is incredibly quick

Camera: love it, in pro mode you can do whatever you want tho, and also shoots in RAW
Screen: good colors but i hate pentile grid, and usable for vr but 1080p or FHD+ is not enough
Speakers: good stereo effect when is on orizontal, but losses fidelity at max volumes
Battery: very good, similar to my old Mi MIX (4400mah)
Speed: Fast AF for real
Storage and Memory: not "PRO".....
6GB ram is good but other flagships have 8GB,
128GB storage is good too, but again, my old Mi MIX have 256GB.
Design: love it
USB-C: FULL support, you can plug whatever you want there, docs, hdmi, another phone, pendrives, mini fan, other charger, mouse, keyboard,name it. ( my Mi MIX dont support hdmi over USB-C for example)

Honestly I absolutely love this phone. I've got a Mate 10 pro BLA-L29 international on T-mobile.
Pros:
Battery. Check my post in the battery thread, fantastic. 8.5-9+ hours SOT with light-moderate usage, 6.5+ on the conservative side for heavy usage.
Screen is really pretty. Honestly the 18:9 OLED 1080p screen is super nice regardless of the normal mate 10 having a QHD panel. I'd say it is a very well built screen
Quick. The kirin 970 has been fast and haven't had any glitches or even odd stutters
Having oreo is great, and MIUI has been pretty swell in my experience. I've seen a lot of hate on it so I was a bit nervous, but honestly it just gives you a lot of different options in the settings I feel like. Personally as someone that likes to tinker with their device but doesnt feel like rooting, I like being able to tweak every aspect of the phone to the extent of the vast number settings.
Cons
Really the only one I can think of currently is software stuff. I hate not being able to expand notifications from the lockscreen and idk why it doesn't let you do that. Idk if it'd an oreo thing or a MIUI thing but I hope it gets fixed in an update because I'd hope that wasn't intentional.
Will add more as I think of them
Things I don't have enough credibility to critique :
Camera. I don't take a ton of photos apart from things like snapchat or the occasional normal photo of my pets, but in my usage the cameras have been great. I'm not going to say I'm am avid photographer though so I won't pretend I know more than I do with how good it is for someone more into professional photography

Coming from note 8. Actually usinf both as daily drivers and Huawei really have a loooong way to go
I am not talking cameras or battery but user experience, smoothness and UI. It's like comparing an iPhone with a 2015 Android phone
Hope this device is getting better with updates

vodovodo said:
Coming from note 8. Actually usinf both as daily drivers and Huawei really have a loooong way to go
I am not talking cameras or battery but user experience, smoothness and UI. It's like comparing an iPhone with a 2015 Android phone
Hope this device is getting better with updates
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I don't know if it is a fair comparison : Note 8 is a much more expensive phone.

vodovodo said:
Coming from note 8. Actually usinf both as daily drivers and Huawei really have a loooong way to go
I am not talking cameras or battery but user experience, smoothness and UI. It's like comparing an iPhone with a 2015 Android phone
Hope this device is getting better with updates
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I donat know-how you can say that... I hade a note 8 and in my opinion my the mate 10 pro is much better in so manny ways.

Best phone ever! (but then again: I say that about every new phone I get [emoji16])
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It is a pretty good phone, overall thumbs up
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This phone is fantastic.
I have the mate 10 non pro. I'm getting 8-9 hours SOT, very speedy, love the size and feel.
it's truly a homerun. Sound out of the 3.5mm headphone jack is GREAT.

I just ordered the 10 (non pro).. It'll arrive in a couple weeks. I'm upgrading from my Oneplus One.. I'm so excited..

Fyjyk said:
I donat know-how you can say that... I hade a note 8 and in my opinion my the mate 10 pro is much better in so manny ways.
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Yes I agree. Battery life. Camera maybe speakers
But I am talking about UI smoothness and user experience. Note 8 is much smoother in animation and the UI is much useful. As in the miniapps the apps windows. The applications are much better optimised for example TubeMate.
The default apps In general, calendar calc phone messenger files etc are much much better on Samsung
By the way where I live mate 10 pro is more expensive than note 8

i thought this thread was for mate 10 and not the mate 10 pro?

WaxysDargle said:
i thought this thread was for mate 10 and not the mate 10 pro?
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Its for both mate

I have had my mate 10 for over a month now and to be honest I think my mate 9 is a better phone, I really don't think the front fingerprint sensor is anywhere near as good as the mate 9 rear one and the phone is just not as smooth to operate with random delays in apps opening or freezing.

Mate 10 pro has the best battery you can get right now in my opinion. The camera can take good photos. It is very fast and has plenty of ram. On the other hand it has bad video, bad audio and old fashioned ui.

Just tried the Emui desktop by connecting my M10PRO to a TV with a USBC-HDMI cable. It works quite well.
Nice to be able to watch Netflix on a hotel room TV directly from the phone.
Will try other out more apps/stuff on the desktop interface to see if it's useful for more than media.

I hope that Huawei will develop a system similar or similar to Knox ™ or Secure folder, since the Mate series is a direct competition to the Galaxy Note, which are 100% focused on work and also have a user focus with BYOD

Just got the Mate 10 Pro the day it hit Best Buy, a few day ago. Haven't bothered rooting yet because truthfully it doesn't need it.Im impressed with the overall quality.Extremely fast and stable. High 212k Antutu score. Thumbs up on this one.

mate 10 , very good camera , good battery , nice design , incredible fingerprint , very good price

done with HTC, switching to OnePlus

Had really hoped hopes with htc u11 . 1st had a huge bug with Bluetooth/wifi that would boot loop my phone... Not only did htc blame me but I had to pay to replace it twice...2 the stance HTC and all big tech company have with development on their phones.
I'm moving back to OnePlus... I had the 1 and 3 going to wait till 7 comes out later this year... Anyone else leave HTC if so to what company what phone?

I do not have issues with WiFi nor Bluetooth. Both work pretty well for me.
I am not leaving htc. I have had the s8, v30 and op6. The result is that every time I switched back to the u11 I realized how smooth, simple and customizable is sense home and the great quality of the u11 (display, sound, construction, camera...). Oh, edge sense is a great feature that I can not live without.
Right now there is no other device that have all the specs I look for. Maybe the u12+.

Well experience with HTC phones had been good so far. Especially HTC U11 is a great device I am having no such issues.
For others I can tell about Samsung phones since I am personally using Note 8. Samsung has come a long way their software system it is lighter now and less buggier. Hardware always has been good on Samsung.

I'm leaving HTC this year for sure, after complete 2 years with me. No pie so far for u11, among others reasons like I've cracked my screen, paid to HTC themselves to fix, and after that there's no more warranty for the phone and they don't guarantee it stills water resistant.
The u11 is not bad, not at all. Suppresses all my needs, but with this support is complicated.
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I've had my U11 since June 2017. It followed a ZTE Axon 7, which followed an HTC 10. I baby the U11 and have been very careful with handling it. I'll keep it until the day I accidentally break it. As others have said, the camera, sound and Edge Sense are what makes this phone so special. Plus, there's nothing as sexy as the Sapphire Blue! Pie or no Pie, it's not a deal breaker for me. Phones nowadays are expensive enough that they're not disposable, - better off holding on to what you have until it doesn't work anymore. HOWEVER, for the sake of answering the question, IF I was going to move on from HTC, I'd get a Galaxy S9 Plus.
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I had the HTC 10 before my U11 and thought it was better audio quality, for a start it has a HEADPHONE SOCKET......can you hear me HTC!
USB-C & no headphone socket is really BAD.
My next phone will be OnePlus, had a One and it was brilliant....just shame about no SD-CARD SOCKET....can you hear me OnePlus!
Just wish someone would make a phone that's half decent like these and have SD-Card socket AND headphone socket.
ps. OnePlus are really EASY to re-flash.

Went for pixel 2 xl though still have U11
Second hand U11 is half the price of used Pixel 2 xl in UK which make it good bargain

I ordered a Oneplus 7 pro this weekend and when it comes later this week it will replace my HTC U11. It's been a great device, but the lack of updates has been very disappointing and I might have desided to buy a different phone if I had known HTC's fate ahead of time.

Two years later, my HTC is still going strong, has a better camera (especially combined with the Google Camera ports) than most phones out there.
Only thing that could be a little better is battery life.
I'll wait for a Pixel with multiple camera lenses and 5G connectivity before upgrading this phone - unless the battery performance deteriorates a lot over the coming year.

Well even though the OnePlus 7 Pro is the best Android handset in 2019 thus far, I think I'll instead switch to Pixel 4, maybe Pixel 4XL. There are two reasons: Pixel will have fast updates and less compromises in comparison to OnePlus, as well as the much better camera.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well even though the OnePlus 7 Pro is the best Android handset in 2019 thus far, I think I'll instead switch to Pixel 4, maybe Pixel 4XL. There are two reasons: Pixel will have fast updates and less compromises in comparison to OnePlus, as well as the much better camera.
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Ya I do want to see what Google brings to the table, but pixels have had a lot of problems.. at least in the opening months so I would hold off a few months before you buy

Have fun with the touchscreen issues
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I purchased the Pixel 3a XL because it was so cheap and i have been wanting to feel the Pixel experience since i passed up the 2XL for the U11. This 3a is a great phone. I still find my self using the U11 on WiFi though because it has been an awesome phone. What can i say....been with HTC since the thunderbolt. Pixel experience has been great so far, and unless HTC can shows signs of life i will be taking a serious look at the Pixel 4.

My OP7P turned up yesterday... Seems like quite a nice device. I went the overkill version, 12gb/256gb.
In the hand, its a little heavier and taller than the U11. Camera doesnt compare to the U11 in my opinion (not on stock OP, GCam U11)
Speed! WOW! Not a single slow down for 2 days. But then again, my 6gb U11 was fast enough.
This phone ****s on the P3XL and the Mate 20 Pro which I returned to go back the U11. I dont think ill be returning the OP7.
I dont have the touch screen issues, but im not going to try installing CPU-z to check. (if I have them, im not noticing it so dont want to be looking for it if its there)
If you are happy with the U11 on Lineage or RR etc, then dont bother updating. Its really not that big of an improvement or difference from OOS.
I am getting double the SOT though, so maybe to some it is. Im always near a charger so no issue for me

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I purchased the Pixel 3a XL because it was so cheap and i have been wanting to feel the Pixel experience since i passed up the 2XL for the U11. This 3a is a great phone. I still find my self using the U11 on WiFi though because it has been an awesome phone. What can i say....been with HTC since the thunderbolt. Pixel experience has been great so far, and unless HTC can shows signs of life i will be taking a serious look at the Pixel 4.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3929546

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https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3929546
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miffymiffy said:
My OP7P turned up yesterday... Seems like quite a nice device. I went the overkill version, 12gb/256gb.
In the hand, its a little heavier and taller than the U11. Camera doesnt compare to the U11 in my opinion (not on stock OP, GCam U11)
Speed! WOW! Not a single slow down for 2 days. But then again, my 6gb U11 was fast enough.
This phone ****s on the P3XL and the Mate 20 Pro which I returned to go back the U11. I dont think ill be returning the OP7.
I dont have the touch screen issues, but im not going to try installing CPU-z to check. (if I have them, im not noticing it so dont want to be looking for it if its there)
If you are happy with the U11 on Lineage or RR etc, then dont bother updating. Its really not that big of an improvement or difference from OOS.
I am getting double the SOT though, so maybe to some it is. Im always near a charger so no issue for me
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Thanks for the feedback. Im fighting the update urge within myself ?. Not to op7p but op7 or zenfone 6, or poco f2.
Wrt to camera, only pixel and huawei p30pro is better. Other than that no one can touch u11(gcam) not even s10+. I have used s10+ both EX and SD versions extensively as my wife & bro has it.
I only do web surfing and youtube , social media and NO gaming at all. With this i get 7hrs SOT on wifi and 5.5-6hrs in wifi+lte.
Are you saying it will approx double from u11 with op7p ?
For my usage, high end SOC is not necessary as i dont game at all. However display, camera and battery, good dev support is high on priority. Pixel 3axl in india has been once again insanely priced.
Decisions, decisions ...
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amit_sen said:
Thanks for the feedback. Im fighting the update urge within myself . Not to op7p but op7 or zenfone 6, or poco f2.
Wrt to camera, only pixel and huawei p30pro is better. Other than that no one can touch u11(gcam) not even s10+. I have used s10+ both EX and SD versions extensively as my wife & bro has it.
I only do web surfing and youtube , social media and NO gaming at all. With this i get 7hrs SOT on wifi and 5.5-6hrs in wifi+lte.
Are you saying it will approx double from u11 with op7p ?
For my usage, high end SOC is not necessary as i dont game at all. However display, camera and battery, good dev support is high on priority. Pixel 3axl in india has been once again insanely priced.
Decisions, decisions ...
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For the past 2 days, I've been getting 8 hours of sot. I don't game and probably have similar usage to your description. I have turned the screen to 60hz and 1080p today to see what the difference is. I'd probably look at the op7 over the others. Although, Xiaomi mi9t looks like it would be a contender too.
One thing to note, bootloader unlock on OnePlus loses widevine L1. If that's of interest to you. Not for me...

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I haven't rooted in YEARS. Care to give me a brief synopsis on how to get root/s-off(or atleast get me in the right direction? It would be greatly appreciated! Phone is unlocked, and i use Verizon.

Returning OnePlus 8 Pro, Comparison with 7 Pro

So I bought the OnePlus 8 Pro with the intention to replace my OnePlus 7 Pro as my work phone. The phone is incredible but in the end I will be keeping the OnePlus 7 Pro. Being a Verizon user, there are quite a few hurdles to using a OnePlus phone as well. Here is a breakdown of my experience:
PROS of the OnePlus 8
+Much more comfortable to hold, due to narrower size, lighter weight
+The sharper curved screen looks and feels much better than the OP7 Pro
+Wireless charging
+Much improved battery life
+Improved Camera
+Several months ahead on updates
CONS of the OnePlus 8 Pro
-No WiFi Calling on Verizon; delayed text notifications
-OnePlus Gestures (excellent) were replaced by Google's buggy default gestures, the 7 Pro still has them.
-Image retention is a major problem on 120 Hz. In Dark mode, ghosted images can remain for anywhere from 5 seconds to 10 minutes. No issues on 7 Pro
-The hole punch is annoying, not because of its existence, but that OnePlus gives no options without a custom rom
-Android 11 is buggy and needs quite a bit of work
All in all, I'm sad to be returning the OnePlus 8 Pro. It's a gorgeous phone with solid build, and so much potential for customization but I can't justify the cost over keeping the OnePlus 7 Pro with its many annoyances. The OnePlus 7 still has no WiFi calling with Verizon, but is otherwise polished. I hope this helps anyone debating the same upgrade.

Guyinlaca said:
So I bought the OnePlus 8 Pro with the intention to replace my OnePlus 7 Pro as my work phone. The phone is incredible but in the end I will be keeping the OnePlus 7 Pro. Being a Verizon user, there are quite a few hurdles to using a OnePlus phone as well. Here is a breakdown of my experience:
PROS of the OnePlus 8
+Much more comfortable to hold, due to narrower size, lighter weight
+The sharper curved screen looks and feels much better than the OP7 Pro
+Wireless charging
+Much improved battery life
+Improved Camera
+Several months ahead on updates
CONS of the OnePlus 8 Pro
-No WiFi Calling on Verizon; delayed text notifications
-OnePlus Gestures (excellent) were replaced by Google's buggy default gestures, the 7 Pro still has them.
-Image retention is a major problem on 120 Hz. In Dark mode, ghosted images can remain for anywhere from 5 seconds to 10 minutes. No issues on 7 Pro
-The hole punch is annoying, not because of its existence, but that OnePlus gives no options without a custom rom
-Android 11 is buggy and needs quite a bit of work
All in all, I'm sad to be returning the OnePlus 8 Pro. It's a gorgeous phone with solid build, and so much potential for customization but I can't justify the cost over keeping the OnePlus 7 Pro with its many annoyances. The OnePlus 7 still has no WiFi calling with Verizon, but is otherwise polished. I hope this helps anyone debating the same upgrade.
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It's a shame that. Do you have to use Verizon, it seems that they force people to do what "they" want rather than what "you" need.
I wouldn't give them the time of day personally.
Haven't had any image retention issues on my device, but I have heard this mentioned, seems to be more prevalent in the states than Europe? Not sure why.
Oh and the punch hole.
Lol check the image, I've found a way to make it look decent.
Also 11 for me has been superb, I hated it at first but I got used to it and now I couldn't go back, especially with the under keyboard gap now being removed.
Shame, but good luck with whatever you get next, I'd certainly consider ditching Verizon and going with another provider, they seem to be extremely counter intuitive

I only got the 8 Pro for 5G but prefer my 7 Pro and Volte worked on that

Shipoftheline said:
I only got the 8 Pro for 5G but prefer my 7 Pro and Volte worked on that
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For me 5G has been awful.
I only use 4G got mine for the performance and the camera is brilliant

dladz said:
For me 5G has been awful.
I only use 5G I got mine got the performance and the camera is brilliant
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I actually found the camera's on the 7 Pro just as good, really not seen any improvement and as for 5G

I'd say my old 7pro is better than my 8pro. Display doesn't have green tint, camera about the same and 7pro still has Widevine L1 (8pro dropped to L3 on its own)and no cam cut out on display. 8pro upgrade wasn't worth it for me.

Shipoftheline said:
I actually found the camera's on the 7 Pro just as good, really not seen any improvement and as for 5G
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Lol the camera is not better on the 7 mate, I wouldn't say that.
I used to be able to get 300+ on 4G. No one needs more than that

dladz said:
Lol the camera is not better on the 7 mate, I wouldn't say that.
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We'd have to agree to disagree on that

Shipoftheline said:
We'd have to agree to disagree on that
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I think it's highly dependent on the person doing the shooting.