Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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After a solid day of use the device actually feels slower than my S8 despite having more Ram. This is based on load times of apps such XDA, Injustice 2, and a few more apps.
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I find this much faster to use than my s8+.
Much faster than my V20 and much more pleasant to use. No more LG for me.
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chavist said:
After a solid day of use the device actually feels slower than my S8 despite having more Ram. This is based on load times of apps such XDA, Injustice 2, and a few more apps.
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Did you time it, or was it perception only?
chavist said:
After a solid day of use the device actually feels slower than my S8 despite having more Ram. This is based on load times of apps such XDA, Injustice 2, and a few more apps.
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I still have my S8+ and have compared the two phones' speeds side-by-side. Note8 is BY FAR faster. I was surprised by the enormous difference.
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Much faster than my V20 and much more pleasant to use. No more LG for me.
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Yeah the V20 was a massive disappointment for me. All the talk of the V30 being amazing makes me roll my eyes. LG hasn't figured out how to make an outstanding phone yet.
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I still have my S8+ and have compared the two phones' speeds side-by-side. Hotel is BY FAR faster. I was surprised by the enormous difference.
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Hotel?
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Yeah the V20 was a massive disappointment for me. All the talk of the V30 being amazing makes me roll my eyes. LG hasn't figured out how to make an outstanding phone yet.
Hotel?
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I had the LG Flex it was pretty cool. But after that nothing.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah the V20 was a massive disappointment for me. All the talk of the V30 being amazing makes me roll my eyes. LG hasn't figured out how to make an outstanding phone yet.
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Note8. Swype fail. :cyclops:
Who cares about "fastness". All 2017 smartphones are fast enough. What we should care about is "smoothness" and "touch responsiveness".
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Who cares about "fastness". All 2017 smartphones are fast enough. What we should care about is "smoothness" and "touch responsiveness".
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I think those things are all (mistakenly) used synonymously.
My Note 8 is way smoother than my S8+. Samsung must have highly optimized the Note 8. Night and day difference to me.
The reboot times are phenomenally fast compared to my V10, V20, and pretty much anything else I've used in the past, oh.. say.... ever. There is no waiting around on this phone. I love how this bar keeps getting set higher and higher!
Seems plenty quick. I hate how these big YouTube reviewers who use a different phone every week page through screens or slide their apps up and down like it means anything.
It's slower than my iPhone, but they've always caked Android for obvious reasons. That's not why I like this phone. It's more than sufficient so far.
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The phone itself is quite fast! I had the S8+, and this boots way faster as well. But for some reason, my data connection is considerably worse on T-Mobile. Idk if this is just my phone, but it takes forever for some things to load, and some simply don't work until I either restart the phone, or cycle data on and off. Is anyone else experiencing this on T-Mobile?
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I still have my S8+ and have compared the two phones' speeds side-by-side. Note8 is BY FAR faster. I was surprised by the enormous difference.
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I feel this thing flys
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I feel this thing flys
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For sure. Surprising given that the internal hardware is nearly identical.
Well, first day with the note 8 and it blows past the v20.
That's what 6GB's of RAM does with proper optimizations!!! Huge difference in speed and smoothness for my when comparing my S8 side by side, I was not a believer until I compared exact tests side by side...
MUCH smoother vs S8+ IMO.
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Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Note5 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth.
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With bloatware enabled, many processes creep onto your CPU load and make things worse than usual. Without bloatware, smoothness is a little better, but still choppy and it skips more beats than any phone with such ludicrous hardware should. Many weaker phones perform much better in this regard, which is disappointing. I wish reviews would mention it because as it stands, people have the impression that the Note5 is the smoothest phone out there. It simply isn't, it's smooth when scrolling through stock applications but load up a long Play Store list and other lists with plenty of graphics and then fluidity takes a hit that Samsung shouldn't be proud of. Hopefully further optimization will help here.
^ what he said.
bc of android it will never be as buttery smooth as an iphone
boszmon said:
bc of android it will never be as buttery smooth as an iphone
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That's not the point. Other Android phones, with much less processing power are way smoother.
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bc of android it will never be as buttery smooth as an iphone
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I disagree. My Nexus 6 was just as smooth if not smoother than my wife's iPhone 6.
Stuttering on a phone of this caliber is inexcusable. Especially with this being the 5th one.
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I sold iphone 6 to buy big screen phone like note 5 i bought it. Its good featured phone no doubt and its fast too. But smooth? No. Scrolling is worse than ever. Like a 1 core phone.
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I dold iphone 6 to buy big screen phone like note 5 i bought it. Its good featured phone no doubt and its fast too. But smooth? No. Scrolling is worse than ever. Like a 1 core phone.
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Wow...just wow.
Was hoping I didn't see that.
Hopefully Android M will fix this
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Wow...just wow.
Was hoping I didn't see that.
Hopefully Android M will fix this
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Ah typing is difficult and also laggy in forums.
Btw when 6.0 is expecting to launch
I agree with others there is definite lag in this phone but not all the time. To me its probably Touchwiz even though I have removed it and I am using different launcher its fully built into they system. Sadly I got this phone for Samsung Pay which works great and I wont be rooting this phone which I am quite sure would help.
Too gain more customers Samsung should give you the ability at setup to include or exclude what apps you feel fit. This with the option of an OEm based rom or a Touchwiz based version would also make many such as myself happy
I think note 5 is not ready to sell in market. Ita down side of android. I mean its just a joke. Is that 8 core phone. Shame 2 core and 2 gb iphone is 5 times stronger.
Im not hater. I had s4 s5 all series but they weren't like note 5. Everything lag in scrolling.
Investing big money and we have no right to get it smooth?
Why should we ignore it? I really like camera and display is best in market. But i believe hands on performance is most important. For now im selling 3 days old phone.
Btw im using moto g3 i really liked this phone. Smooth and cheap. Unlike note 5
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Well, lot's of android haters in here, that's odd. Anyway, I started with iPhones, went to android for a couple years and had all the flagships, switched to the iPhone 6 Plus last year, and just bought a Note 5. I think the Note is very fast and fluid. Zero complaints here. Then again, I rooted and installed a custom ROM and kernel immediately but still... When I used it in the store it seemed pretty quick. People are a little quick to say Android will never be as fast as iOS. iOS has it's own share of little glitches and hiccups too.
The launcher is fast, the app drawer is fast, apps open fast, camera is fast, fingerprint scanner is fast, this is a fast phone.
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i agree with you because my Samsung Note-II lost network itself without any notification.
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Well, lot's of android haters in here, that's odd. Anyway, I started with iPhones, went to android for a couple years and had all the flagships, switched to the iPhone 6 Plus last year, and just bought a Note 5. I think the Note is very fast and fluid. Zero complaints here. Then again, I rooted and installed a custom ROM and kernel immediately but still... When I used it in the store it seemed pretty quick. People are a little quick to say Android will never be as fast as iOS. iOS has it's own share of little glitches and hiccups too.
The launcher is fast, the app drawer is fast, apps open fast, camera is fast, fingerprint scanner is fast, this is a fast phone.
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Mate, you're completely missing the point here. People are reporting on scrolling smoothness problems with stock Touchwiz, not some custom ROM and kernel. Of course performance can be better in that case. And nobody here is blaming Android. There are perfectly smooth Android phones out there with much less horsepower, which adds to the frustration.
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iphone is not buttery smooth !!!
i have iphone 6s and note 5....
Note 5 its way better. its masterpiece
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iphone is not buttery smooth !!!
i have iphone 6s and note 5....
Note 5 its way better. its masterpiece
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I'm crazy with iPhone 6s scroll speed, acceleration. But I can say with you that iPhone 6s will smoother than Note 5. Just now 6s come with buggy, lagging iOS version. If you stay with 9.0, it is very smooth! After jailbreak, I can speed up animation. Only scroll speed is problem I'm finding out the solution!
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But iPhones were never truly always butter without a stutter or bug themselves. As well as for many years iOS has had a large lead over all mobile OS's in app crashes.
I can't take the slow molasses type of scrolling in iPhone safari browser. I need it to be quick like chrome on Android.
Seems little freezes here and there but I think all is do to network and internet connection. Overall on internal looks great..
I agree that scrolling smoothness isn't what it should be. It should be up to par with other android phones. I got it two days ago and im really considering taking it back for the S6 but i really don't know if it'd be any better. Anyone used the s6 to know?
Would you say that the Honor 6X is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Honor 6X exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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To me the task switching goes on without a lag between various kind of apps like mail clients, game emulators and internet browsing. The only one I've seen it's related to Nova Launcher's app drawer, but can be avoided setting Nova velocity options down by a couple of levels
abigail_clark said:
asdadadadasdasd
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Don't post like this , it cannot be understood to OP
abigail_clark said:
sorry for that.
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it okey bro :highfive: first time
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i am female
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Sorry
I just purchased it from Amazon at $199. My current phone is a Moto G4 plus. I am plesently surprised with the speed even with multiple apps open. I'm not a gamer. It opens many apps faster than my G4.
So far I'm impressed. Big improvement over the honor 5X which I owned in the past.
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I just purchased it from Amazon at $199. My current phone is a Moto G4 plus. I am plesently surprised with the speed even with multiple apps open. I'm not a gamer. It opens many apps faster than my G4.
So far I'm impressed. Big improvement over the honor 5X which I owned in the past.
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great deal ,enjoy the phone
In day to day usage I have never experienced any lag or stuttering. Multitasking is also great. This is incredible considering its price.
My friend was kind enough to let me borrow his 6X for a review. Regarding speed, faster than 5X. I loved it because at such minimal price, it should not be overlooked.
Honor 6 x is Way better then redmo note 4, don't know why redmi note 4 has got this much popularity
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Honor 6 x is Way better then redmo note 4, don't know why redmi note 4 has got this much popularity
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Probably due to bigger battery , active development , more variants, Miui.
Overall this phone's speed is a nice replacement for 5x.
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Overall this phone's speed is a nice replacement for 5x.
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But Snapdragon has lot of development
But open Kirin does the best. Love -Openkirin team.
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But Snapdragon has lot of development
But open Kirin does the best. Love -Openkirin team.
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This is overall speed thread, not community development.
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This is overall speed thread, not community development.
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:silly: understood. My typo.
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:silly: understood. My typo.
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That's okay.
No complaint whatsoever. Doesn't lag and still doing well after 10 months of usage.
Running well in nouget.
It it well behind the competition
Kirin soc is power efficient but it comes at the cost of performance
I face lags(i doubt emui for this) performance is snappy for most part but i am really unhappy with emui as it don't take full benefit of hardware
SD 625 gets 60 70 some people even achieving 80k but this phone just around 50k
So there is noticeable drop in performance compare to mi phones or sd 650/625 powered devices
Blazing awesome for this midrange device.
Would you say that the Google Pixel 3 XL is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Google Pixel 3 XL exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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Yes! Compared to the Samsung S9, the Google Pixel 3 XL gives the impression that it is faster. I think this is because the native Android system used by Google Pixel 3 XL! At the same time, I played my friend's iPhone x before, but I feel that iphone x is faster. Recently I was thinking about whether I should buy an iPhone xs max.
pixel 3 xl isnt out yet...
Nvmd
Same here. Thought about the max but the limitations of iPhones are brutal. Eitherway , handsdown apple destroys Google in optimizations.
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Yes! Compared to the Samsung S9, the Google Pixel 3 XL gives the impression that it is faster. I think this is because the native Android system used by Google Pixel 3 XL! At the same time, I played my friend's iPhone x before, but I feel that iphone x is faster. Recently I was thinking about whether I should buy an iPhone xs max.
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Fast enough in real life?
Of course, it´s a 845 Chip, blazing fast though
So I'm already noticing choppy animations sometimes when opening apps. This is really not good and unacceptable.
since /data uses F2FS
im curious to know if anyone has formatted it to EXT4 and observed a difference?
i remember using F2FS on the oneplus phones caused slowdowns and latency issues.
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So I'm already noticing choppy animations sometimes when opening apps. This is really not good and unacceptable.
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These are the way kennel deals with EAS
We need to wait for custom kernels
I reduced animation speed to 0,5
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These are the way kennel deals with EAS
We need to wait for custom kernels
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The animations were getting choppy, everytime I unlock the phone. I sent it back to Google for a replacement. If this issue presists, I'm just gonna return the phone.
Been using mine since day one, and it's kind of funny to me. I thought lately it was slowing down, but it's only because I'm used to it now. I played around with my Moto E4 Plus that I came from, and wow, that thing was a snail. I thought that phone was fast when I got it, and thought it was on par with much more expensive phones all the way up until I got the 3XL, but once I tried it after using the 3XL, it was night and day. I then went back to the 3XL, and boom, it was like the first day I turned it on. Blazing fast, and not one stutter or jank. It's amazing how using it 12 hours a day make you get used to the speed and smoothness. Try your old phone, and then come back. You won't take it for granted anymore like I did.
Delete.
Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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Samsung galaxy Note 10 is going higher value...its performance feature is increased from the past models of samsung galaxy. It is ten time faster..protection is more important of this expensive samsung galaxy Note 10. samsung galaxy note 10- https://www.hamee-india.com/pages/samsung-mobile-covers
Smooth device! Like with the US S10s, the N10s are highly performant. I had to pull myself away from a demo unit, haha. Of course, with UFS3 on board certain ops will complete faster.
As per the reviewers the overall experience is good!!! No Issues.
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Smooth device! Like with the US S10s, the N10s are highly performant. I had to pull myself away from a demo unit, haha. Of course, with UFS3 on board certain ops will complete faster.
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Don't recall them saying it was using UFS3 anywhere......
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Don't recall them saying it was using UFS3 anywhere......
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I'm aware. But the IO speeds are better than my 7P.
Any reports of the EXYNOS version's smoothness?
Antutu result
Overall in real world use I'm very happy with the N10+. Very responsive.
I find that in medium power saving mode it is a good balance for me.
I was still interested in putting the phone in the freezer and spat out this Antutu result
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Overall in real world use I'm very happy with the N10+. Very responsive.
I find that in medium power saving mode it is a good balance for me.
I was still interested in putting the phone in the freezer and spat out this Antutu result
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SD or exynos?
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SD or exynos?
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I have a snapdragon cpu
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I'm aware. But the IO speeds are better than my 7P.
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Real life test show 7P outperforming the N10 Plus. It seems the lead increases as the apps get more complicated (games etc).
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Don't recall them saying it was using UFS3 anywhere......
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I have read the N10 Plus has UFS 3.0, not sure about standard Note 10, I would guess it does too.
Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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Good speed, but not as fast as the regular S20. I don't do any heavy gaming, but some apps open slightly slower with the FE. Reduced RAM?
Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
Using a Dual-SIM Exynos FE 6/128: G780F/DS.
Speed is great so far, but this is my first modern "flagship" phone though, so can't really compare it to anything.
Screen on time is not great though. 4.5 hours after a week of use.
I have no issues thus far with speed
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Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon. My brother was the one who actually got it and said it but the package doesn't say 5g. The model number is G870f/ds. And had 128gb of storage and 8gb of ram
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time. It still lags but it's usable now. It has the good old samsung/xiaomi (I never used a non samsung/xiaomi android phone since other phones are not available here) stuttering. When I scroll there's like 3-4 frames that daty stuck for 200-100ms. It's very noticable but nothing like the mess it was at first (I had literal nausea using it)
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
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It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
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Yes.
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The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time.
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If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Installing everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
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Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
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Yes.
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Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
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Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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Yes.
If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Plugging in everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
Yes.
Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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I'm not sure what you mean by plugging but I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos ( it's been a day and a restart yesterday and honestly still. It lags but it's usable. I'll upload a video on youtube. If you're interested reply so I'll get a notification about it (it's gonna take a bit to upload)
Have you ever used a new iphone? Iphone x or newer. My iphone X was sooo smooth in comparison. Not to mention the far lower latency (input delay.) Overall the phone felt nicer on my eyes and brain to use despite the 60hz. But it wasn't as "fluid" as this one. But the consistency made up for it. And not to mention the thoughtful detailed animations that follow your fingers acceleration and speed etc.
I've been spoiled by an iphone x before and I'm quite sensitive to stutter tbh!
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this is the s20 fe. now that I see it in slow motion it's embarrassingly awful. I'm uploading a slow motion of proper 120hz without stutter too.
> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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Yeah sadly the person at the store either made a mistake or lied to my brother. I wasn't there to confirm
But the video I attached shows the issues. It's outright embarrassing that samsung is this bad still. It takes actual skill to make such a fast processor this slow.
If you check my channel you can see what proper 120hz looks like in comparison. I was too lazy to attach the videos
activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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smart pass was on the top. nothing special was using too many resources.
the video was in slow-motion btw.
oh and mine is exynos... we have no other choice where I live. not even a single snapdragon model!
I had the 5g version of the fe, it was complete **** so much it was slow. I instantly sold it back. Lots of stuttering, my old s9 was feeling faster (in Android). I then tried the 4g version of the s20 fe (exynos) and was surprised by how snappy it was. The menus where opening quickly, swaping between apps was a breeze. I was impressed.
So there sure is a rat under the carpet with Samsung, maybe software problems, maybe cpu/hardware/chipset problems, maybe both.
I have the 5G/Snapdragon version (recent firmware) and it's fast enough. The 120 Hz screen is smooth, all apps running smoothly including those with heavy JS graphics, which were garbage on my previous phone, A6.