Hello all. I'm getting my S8+ from the BOGO tomorrow. I wanted to know if there was a way to install the camera mod without root, or if there is a 3rd party camera that does this. My last Samsung was an S4 which didn't work well with updates after root/recovery.
On that note, can I just root without recovery to install the mod?
And unrelated, looking at getting the flip LED case. Does that protect well from drops? Doesn't look like it would. Other thought was a lens case I saw on Amazon, but looks like an inexpensive import thing so not sure.
You need root to install that mod, and if you're getting the snapdragon version there is no root for it at all.
Right, but can I root without recovery? I don't want to risk tripping Knox like my S4 did. I want to install updates as soon as Samsung releases them.
Knox will be tripped if you root the phone this way or that way.
Oh. I didn't think it would complain about a simple root. Guess I can't adb this either? Damn.
peachpuff said:
Knox will be tripped if you root the phone this way or that way.
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False. Root does not trip Knox. Only bootloader
wildermjs8 said:
False. Root does not trip Knox. Only bootloader
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wildermjs8 said:
False. Root does not trip Knox. Only bootloader
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this is simply not true.root 100% will trip knox. there is no way to root and not trip knox.
False.
Sorry but you are all mistaken.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/progress-root-progress-thread-g950u-t3655239
S8 now has a root method that does not trip Knox.
This isn't the only device that can be rooted without Knox trip as well IIRC (but I don't remember which)
wildermjs8 said:
False.
Sorry but you are all mistaken.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/progress-root-progress-thread-g950u-t3655239
S8 now has a root method that does not trip Knox.
This isn't the only device that can be rooted without Knox trip as well IIRC (but I don't remember which)
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This is ONLY for the Snapdragon version (From US, not China) and it uses Samsung signed permissive and ENG firmware. You also can't charge the phone past 80% with this firmware (Devs working on fixing that) and while it doesn't trip Knox, it will make it useless until you flash full stock back.
Interceptor777 said:
This is ONLY for the Snapdragon version (From US, not China) and it uses Samsung signed permissive and ENG firmware. You also can't charge the phone past 80% with this firmware (Devs working on fixing that) and while it doesn't trip Knox, it will make it useless until you flash full stock back.
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He was replying to the person who said root will 100% trip knox, which isn't true.
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Dear XDA Engineers
I bought this SM-N9005 recently and need to root it without tripping Knox I looked all over the forum but no hope to find something about it .. so I insert my N9005 specification as a picture .. please guide me to the right way to root it without tripping Knox
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ammdhg said:
Dear XDA Engineers
I bought this SM-N9005 recently and need to root it without tripping Knox I looked all over the forum but no hope to find something about it .. so I insert my N9005 specification as a picture .. please guide me to the right way to root it without tripping Knox
View attachment 2926509
Thanks in advance
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I think ND2 can be rooted via Towelroot. Search it here and double check if i'm correct.
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My SM-N9005 is ND3 not ND2 .. please I am so worry to tripp my knox .. please give me your decision
Did you even look in the Towelroot thread ?
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ammdhg said:
My SM-N9005 is ND3 not ND2 .. please I am so worry to tripp my knox .. please give me your decision
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I meant ND3, just a typo i guess. Anyway, i also included that you check Towelroot's requirements. I won't do that for you. Your phone you decide.
Sent from my SM-N9005
I know well it's my decision but I was reading that there is some fellow's note 3 has tripped knox after rooting with towelroot .. so I wondered is there some programs the knox feel with them and tripped or its just bad luck with them .. anyway I am so so sorry for being annoying but really I just need to understand that's all
Thanks in advance ?
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I meant ND3, just a typo i guess. Anyway, i also included that you check Towelroot's requirements. I won't do that for you. Your phone you decide.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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ammdhg said:
I know well it's my decision but I was reading that there is some fellow's note 3 has tripped knox after rooting with towelroot .. so I wondered is there some programs the knox feel with them and tripped or its just bad luck with them .. anyway I am so so sorry for being annoying but really I just need to understand that's all
Thanks in advance ?
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Personally used Towelroot. Did not trip Knox, stayed 0x0. After custom recov was installed then that tripped my knox counter, best decision ever. Now i'm flashing away custom roms. You're lucky having an early KK that could actually use TR. Some people who updated KK have to go through a process just to use TR and not trip knox.
Sent from my SM-N9005
you can give this link a try..
Hoi to all,
is it possible, to change my firmware, from N910FXXU1ANK4 to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH ?
What wil happend with the Knox Warranty Void ?
Now i have a Vodafone rom(stock) on it, and i want to go to the PNH rom (stock)
It's not the first time for my to flash, just asking because i not sure about this.
Hopefully that someone, gives a positive feedback.
PS. sorry for my bad English, I come from the Netherlands.
Cool I'm from the Netherlands too. Here in the Netherlands only dynafix is repairing samsung and i have send several samsung devices with knox triggered to them without problems.
Debranding is always possible, but I'm not sure about knox. I always root my phone so knox is already triggered on my n4 else i could try it out for you
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Hoi to all,
is it possible, to change my firmware, from N910FXXU1ANK4 to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH ?
What wil happend with the Knox Warranty Void ?
Now i have a Vodafone rom(stock) on it, and i want to go to the PNH rom (stock)
It's not the first time for my to flash, just asking because i not sure about this.
Hopefully that someone, gives a positive feedback.
PS. sorry for my bad English, I come from the Netherlands.
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As long as they are both for your model (N910F) you should be fine, and if you encounter problems you can always reflash the stock firmware with Odin
Thanks for the quick reply.
It is better to speak/write English here
Hope that someone can answer my question, about the Knox
And that i can go to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH from Vodafone.
lekkerding said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
It is better to speak/write English here
Hope that someone can answer my question, about the Knox
And that i can go to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH from Vodafone.
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Yes: you can flash the PHN-firmware WITHOUT triggering KNOX (because it's official firmware)...
You can download, fast, the update file here (MegaNZ) and install it with Odin 3.0.9
Henk,
Thanks for the nice answer
Also downloaded the file from your link.
Flashing is in process
lekkerding said:
Henk,
Thanks for the nice answer
Also downloaded the file from your link.
Flashing is in process
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Can you confirm if the knox triggers or not? Handy to know that for some customers
elroy944 said:
Can you confirm if the knox triggers or not? Handy to know that for some customers
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If you flash OFFICIAL FIRMWARE, KNOX will NEVER triggered!
If you flash CUSTOM firmware, and eventually ROOT your device, the chance is very high that KNOX will be triggered!
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Can you confirm if the knox triggers or not? Handy to know that for some customers
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Confirmed.
knox is still on 0x0
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Does PingPong Root work on the S5 or is it S6 only?
Mate, you've asked the same question over and over, even PMd me asking, you've been told that CF Auto Root will work, no need to keep asking the same thing
Root with CF Auto Root, job done
Ignore firmware numbers, it works for Lollipop
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Mate, you've asked the same question over and over, even PMd me asking, you've been told that CF Auto Root will work, no need to keep asking the same thing
Root with CF Auto Root, job done
Ignore firmware numbers, it works for Lollipop
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I know it does mate. It's just that this method sounds easier and doesn't void KNOX as far as I'm aware. I know that cf-auto-root will but if there's an easier method that doesn't void it for all intensive purposes I might as well use it.
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There is no root method for Lollipop that does not void warranty, you will always have 0x1 KNOX rooting Lollipop
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There is no root method for Lollipop that does not void warranty, you will always have 0x1 KNOX rooting Lollipop
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Its possible if you were on rooted KK
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Rakuu said:
Its possible if you were on rooted KK
Sent from my Twi5ted SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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Yea, if on KK, not if on LP
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Yea, if on KK, not if on LP
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it is possible to perform root in s5 without changing the knox. you can perform the downgrad for kitkat 4.4.2 where the towelroot. lembarando you should use the stock rom otherwise your knox will be changed!
Hello!
Can you share a tutorial to have root lollipop with knox 0x0?
I have a kitkat g900M.
As the topic suggest, I bought a G900W8 brand new with 5.0 installed.
Not sure if downgrading to 4.4.2 is at all possible, especially since the people at Samsung said I couldn't
But I figured i'd try and see if anyone here knows if this will trip knox flasing with Odin
I have downloaded the 4.4.2 for telus rom from sammobile and waiting to see for any input
karce32 said:
As the topic suggest, I bought a G900W8 brand new with 5.0 installed.
Not sure if downgrading to 4.4.2 is at all possible, especially since the people at Samsung said I couldn't
But I figured i'd try and see if anyone here knows if this will trip knox flasing with Odin
I have downloaded the 4.4.2 for telus rom from sammobile and waiting to see for any input
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I downgraded my s5 from 5.0 to 4.4.2 via odin without tripping knox, so i don't see why it would trip for you.
You can flash any stock Samsung ROM without tripping KNOX
Only time KNOX will trip is if you flash anything Custom
Akalsemann said:
I downgraded my s5 from 5.0 to 4.4.2 via odin without tripping knox, so i don't see why it would trip for you.
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Excellent,so did yours come stock with lollypop, or was it upgraded then flashed back?
Thanks
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You can flash any stock Samsung ROM without tripping KNOX
Only time KNOX will trip is if you flash anything Custom
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That is good to know. Last time I flashed with Odin was my galaxy s2, just got am s5 and I know miss data on/off button
karce32 said:
Excellent,so did yours come stock with lollypop, or was it upgraded then flashed back?
Thanks
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It came with lollipop 5.0
karce32 said:
That is good to know. Last time I flashed with Odin was my galaxy s2, just got am s5 and I know miss data on/off button
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Data On/Off can be added to the quick settings dropdown
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You can flash any stock Samsung ROM without tripping KNOX
Only time KNOX will trip is if you flash anything Custom
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Data On/Off can be added to the quick settings dropdown
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I wish I could say it was true, my version of lollipop does not come with a data button
Strange, even if you hit the Edit pencil button?
Might be worth trying one of these Data toggle widgets
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=mobile data on off switch&hl=en_GB
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Strange, even if you hit the Edit pencil button?
Might be worth trying one of these Data toggle widgets
https://play.google.com/store/search? q=mobile data on off switch&hl=en_GB
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Yep, even after hitting the edit pencil. Toggles don't seem to work on Android 5 because of a security hole plugged. Which is why I was curious about downgrading because I hear it's available in 4.4.2,but worried about tripping KNOX since this my first new phone in years, didn't want to risk voiding my warranty yet
hi all. Is there any chance that an oreo update will make knox 0x0 again ?? I am asking this becouse u know what problems does the warranty void. i installed from odin uk btu version of official sam firmware and have access to updates but hardly passed through the s health problem. i searched for solutions but only hope is if oreo will do any trick. so please if anyone has any info about that reply
Forget about it. Once tripped there is no way to reset Knox.
Nope, knox will not be restored by a firmware upgrade. Do not get your hopes up. It isn't being restored in the Oreo betas aswell.
I think the only way that knox could be restored is due to a mistake by Samsung
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Nope, knox will not be restored by a firmware upgrade. Do not get your hopes up. It isn't being restored in the Oreo betas aswell.
I think the only way that knox could be restored is due to a mistake by Samsung
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so there is no hope even in the future ???
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so there is no hope even in the future ???
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No. I won't say 100% but 98. Some one may crack it today tomorrow or in 10p years but do not get your hopes up
knox is hardware based. 99.99999999% uncrackable
No. Knox trigger it's physical and not a software solution. It's an fuse on your phone mainboard. It's literally a physical damage. No software update will fix it
the only way to reset it is by changing out the main board or repairing the fuse that is blown out.
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repairing the fuse that is blown out.
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Good luck with that. That e-fuse is located inside SoC.
And about replacing the mainboard... One should pay for a new mainboard, probably spending some money to pay someone to replace it in order to avoid being needed to pay to repair another defect? Does it sounds logical to you?
A motherboard for S8 costs £320-360. Plus another 50ish quid for labour. Would take you to £370-410. You can buy another S8 with those money
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No. I won't say 100% but 98. Some one may crack it today tomorrow or in 10p years but do not get your hopes up
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