Downgrade from non upgraded 5.0 to 4.4.2 - G900W8 - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As the topic suggest, I bought a G900W8 brand new with 5.0 installed.
Not sure if downgrading to 4.4.2 is at all possible, especially since the people at Samsung said I couldn't
But I figured i'd try and see if anyone here knows if this will trip knox flasing with Odin
I have downloaded the 4.4.2 for telus rom from sammobile and waiting to see for any input

karce32 said:
As the topic suggest, I bought a G900W8 brand new with 5.0 installed.
Not sure if downgrading to 4.4.2 is at all possible, especially since the people at Samsung said I couldn't
But I figured i'd try and see if anyone here knows if this will trip knox flasing with Odin
I have downloaded the 4.4.2 for telus rom from sammobile and waiting to see for any input
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I downgraded my s5 from 5.0 to 4.4.2 via odin without tripping knox, so i don't see why it would trip for you.

You can flash any stock Samsung ROM without tripping KNOX
Only time KNOX will trip is if you flash anything Custom

Akalsemann said:
I downgraded my s5 from 5.0 to 4.4.2 via odin without tripping knox, so i don't see why it would trip for you.
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Excellent,so did yours come stock with lollypop, or was it upgraded then flashed back?
Thanks

*Detection* said:
You can flash any stock Samsung ROM without tripping KNOX
Only time KNOX will trip is if you flash anything Custom
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That is good to know. Last time I flashed with Odin was my galaxy s2, just got am s5 and I know miss data on/off button

karce32 said:
Excellent,so did yours come stock with lollypop, or was it upgraded then flashed back?
Thanks
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It came with lollipop 5.0

karce32 said:
That is good to know. Last time I flashed with Odin was my galaxy s2, just got am s5 and I know miss data on/off button
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Data On/Off can be added to the quick settings dropdown
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*Detection* said:
You can flash any stock Samsung ROM without tripping KNOX
Only time KNOX will trip is if you flash anything Custom
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*Detection* said:
Data On/Off can be added to the quick settings dropdown
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I wish I could say it was true, my version of lollipop does not come with a data button

Strange, even if you hit the Edit pencil button?
Might be worth trying one of these Data toggle widgets
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=mobile data on off switch&hl=en_GB

*Detection* said:
Strange, even if you hit the Edit pencil button?
Might be worth trying one of these Data toggle widgets
https://play.google.com/store/search? q=mobile data on off switch&hl=en_GB
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Yep, even after hitting the edit pencil. Toggles don't seem to work on Android 5 because of a security hole plugged. Which is why I was curious about downgrading because I hear it's available in 4.4.2,but worried about tripping KNOX since this my first new phone in years, didn't want to risk voiding my warranty yet

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Need to root SM-N9005 UENC2 without tripping Knox

Dear XDA Engineers
I bought this SM-N9005 recently and need to root it without tripping Knox I looked all over the forum but no hope to find something about it .. so I insert my N9005 specification as a picture .. please guide me to the right way to root it without tripping Knox
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ammdhg said:
Dear XDA Engineers
I bought this SM-N9005 recently and need to root it without tripping Knox I looked all over the forum but no hope to find something about it .. so I insert my N9005 specification as a picture .. please guide me to the right way to root it without tripping Knox
View attachment 2926509
Thanks in advance
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I think ND2 can be rooted via Towelroot. Search it here and double check if i'm correct.
Sent from my SM-N9005
My SM-N9005 is ND3 not ND2 .. please I am so worry to tripp my knox .. please give me your decision
Did you even look in the Towelroot thread ?
Sent from my N9005
ammdhg said:
My SM-N9005 is ND3 not ND2 .. please I am so worry to tripp my knox .. please give me your decision
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I meant ND3, just a typo i guess. Anyway, i also included that you check Towelroot's requirements. I won't do that for you. Your phone you decide.
Sent from my SM-N9005
I know well it's my decision but I was reading that there is some fellow's note 3 has tripped knox after rooting with towelroot .. so I wondered is there some programs the knox feel with them and tripped or its just bad luck with them .. anyway I am so so sorry for being annoying but really I just need to understand that's all
Thanks in advance ?
jdgamble said:
I meant ND3, just a typo i guess. Anyway, i also included that you check Towelroot's requirements. I won't do that for you. Your phone you decide.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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ammdhg said:
I know well it's my decision but I was reading that there is some fellow's note 3 has tripped knox after rooting with towelroot .. so I wondered is there some programs the knox feel with them and tripped or its just bad luck with them .. anyway I am so so sorry for being annoying but really I just need to understand that's all
Thanks in advance ?
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Personally used Towelroot. Did not trip Knox, stayed 0x0. After custom recov was installed then that tripped my knox counter, best decision ever. Now i'm flashing away custom roms. You're lucky having an early KK that could actually use TR. Some people who updated KK have to go through a process just to use TR and not trip knox.
Sent from my SM-N9005
you can give this link a try..

Note 4 firmware change possible ?

Hoi to all,
is it possible, to change my firmware, from N910FXXU1ANK4 to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH ?
What wil happend with the Knox Warranty Void ?
Now i have a Vodafone rom(stock) on it, and i want to go to the PNH rom (stock)
It's not the first time for my to flash, just asking because i not sure about this.
Hopefully that someone, gives a positive feedback.
PS. sorry for my bad English, I come from the Netherlands.
Cool I'm from the Netherlands too. Here in the Netherlands only dynafix is repairing samsung and i have send several samsung devices with knox triggered to them without problems.
Debranding is always possible, but I'm not sure about knox. I always root my phone so knox is already triggered on my n4 else i could try it out for you
lekkerding said:
Hoi to all,
is it possible, to change my firmware, from N910FXXU1ANK4 to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH ?
What wil happend with the Knox Warranty Void ?
Now i have a Vodafone rom(stock) on it, and i want to go to the PNH rom (stock)
It's not the first time for my to flash, just asking because i not sure about this.
Hopefully that someone, gives a positive feedback.
PS. sorry for my bad English, I come from the Netherlands.
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As long as they are both for your model (N910F) you should be fine, and if you encounter problems you can always reflash the stock firmware with Odin
Thanks for the quick reply.
It is better to speak/write English here
Hope that someone can answer my question, about the Knox
And that i can go to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH from Vodafone.
lekkerding said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
It is better to speak/write English here
Hope that someone can answer my question, about the Knox
And that i can go to N910FPNH1ANK2_PNH from Vodafone.
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Yes: you can flash the PHN-firmware WITHOUT triggering KNOX (because it's official firmware)...
You can download, fast, the update file here (MegaNZ) and install it with Odin 3.0.9
Henk,
Thanks for the nice answer
Also downloaded the file from your link.
Flashing is in process
lekkerding said:
Henk,
Thanks for the nice answer
Also downloaded the file from your link.
Flashing is in process
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Can you confirm if the knox triggers or not? Handy to know that for some customers
elroy944 said:
Can you confirm if the knox triggers or not? Handy to know that for some customers
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If you flash OFFICIAL FIRMWARE, KNOX will NEVER triggered!
If you flash CUSTOM firmware, and eventually ROOT your device, the chance is very high that KNOX will be triggered!
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Can you confirm if the knox triggers or not? Handy to know that for some customers
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Confirmed.
knox is still on 0x0
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PingPong Root?

Does PingPong Root work on the S5 or is it S6 only?
Mate, you've asked the same question over and over, even PMd me asking, you've been told that CF Auto Root will work, no need to keep asking the same thing
Root with CF Auto Root, job done
Ignore firmware numbers, it works for Lollipop
*Detection* said:
Mate, you've asked the same question over and over, even PMd me asking, you've been told that CF Auto Root will work, no need to keep asking the same thing
Root with CF Auto Root, job done
Ignore firmware numbers, it works for Lollipop
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I know it does mate. It's just that this method sounds easier and doesn't void KNOX as far as I'm aware. I know that cf-auto-root will but if there's an easier method that doesn't void it for all intensive purposes I might as well use it.
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There is no root method for Lollipop that does not void warranty, you will always have 0x1 KNOX rooting Lollipop
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There is no root method for Lollipop that does not void warranty, you will always have 0x1 KNOX rooting Lollipop
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Its possible if you were on rooted KK
Sent from my Twi5ted SM-G900A using Tapatalk
Rakuu said:
Its possible if you were on rooted KK
Sent from my Twi5ted SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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Yea, if on KK, not if on LP
*Detection* said:
Yea, if on KK, not if on LP
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it is possible to perform root in s5 without changing the knox. you can perform the downgrad for kitkat 4.4.2 where the towelroot. lembarando you should use the stock rom otherwise your knox will be changed!
Hello!
Can you share a tutorial to have root lollipop with knox 0x0?
I have a kitkat g900M.

[Q] Which stock ROM do I need to flash on this version of Galaxy S4?

Hello, I had recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 off a local used phones seller for cheap. Now I am confused on which official stock ROM it should be running.
I come from a fairly easy section of XDA, The Moto G and Xperia Z sections, hence I find it really confusing to get the right firmware..
My main intention is to get to the proper firmware and update it to the latest available. I think my phone and Firmware don't match right now so.
Here is what details I have of this Phone:
Note : I have also found out that some users who bought a Galaxy S4 from eBay or local classifieds also have this problem, having a different firmware from the model they have.
Hardware:
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Ryshic12 said:
Hello, I had recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 off a local used phones seller for cheap. Now I am confused on which official stock ROM it should be running.
I come from a fairly easy section of XDA, The Moto G and Xperia Z sections, hence I find it really confusing to get the right firmware..
My main intention is to get to the proper firmware and update it to the latest available. I think my phone and Firmware don't match right now so.
Here is what details I have of this Phone:...
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From the info you posted, looks like you have an SGH-I337 with nb1 bootloader and with a custom rom installed from the I9505. The current OS is 4.4.2.
The latest AT&T stock firmware is 5.0.1. To return the phone to fully stock, you need to flash the stock nb1 (4.4.2) firmware, then upgrade to nj4 (4.4.4) or oc3 (5.0.1). You can get everything you need from [GUIDE]Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Installing Safestrap.
Before you decide whether to put Kitkat or Lollipop on it, you might want to read this thread.
@creepyncrawly Thank you! Just the answer I was looking for, was really worried about which stock ROM to flash. I have also found out that some people who also buy a used Galaxy S4 from eBay face exactly this.. a device with the wrong F/W. Anyways thanks I will update where necessary.
Edit : Will changing ROMs trip Knox? I can see mine isn't tripped yet (0x0)..
Ryshic12 said:
[MENTION=2916435]Will changing ROMs trip Knox? I can see mine isn't tripped yet (0x0)..
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Flashing stock will not change the knox flag. It's most likely irrelevant, because the phone is surely not still under warranty.
@creepyncrawly So will reverting from OC3 to nj1 flag it? I have a friend who wanted to know.
Ryshic12 said:
@creepyncrawly So will reverting from OC3 to nj1 flag it? I have a friend who wanted to know.
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See above.^^^
@creepyncrawly Alright, Thanks alot!

4K HDR camera mod without root?

Hello all. I'm getting my S8+ from the BOGO tomorrow. I wanted to know if there was a way to install the camera mod without root, or if there is a 3rd party camera that does this. My last Samsung was an S4 which didn't work well with updates after root/recovery.
On that note, can I just root without recovery to install the mod?
And unrelated, looking at getting the flip LED case. Does that protect well from drops? Doesn't look like it would. Other thought was a lens case I saw on Amazon, but looks like an inexpensive import thing so not sure.
You need root to install that mod, and if you're getting the snapdragon version there is no root for it at all.
Right, but can I root without recovery? I don't want to risk tripping Knox like my S4 did. I want to install updates as soon as Samsung releases them.
Knox will be tripped if you root the phone this way or that way.
Oh. I didn't think it would complain about a simple root. Guess I can't adb this either? Damn.
peachpuff said:
Knox will be tripped if you root the phone this way or that way.
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False. Root does not trip Knox. Only bootloader
wildermjs8 said:
False. Root does not trip Knox. Only bootloader
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wildermjs8 said:
False. Root does not trip Knox. Only bootloader
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this is simply not true.root 100% will trip knox. there is no way to root and not trip knox.
False.
Sorry but you are all mistaken.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/progress-root-progress-thread-g950u-t3655239
S8 now has a root method that does not trip Knox.
This isn't the only device that can be rooted without Knox trip as well IIRC (but I don't remember which)
wildermjs8 said:
False.
Sorry but you are all mistaken.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/progress-root-progress-thread-g950u-t3655239
S8 now has a root method that does not trip Knox.
This isn't the only device that can be rooted without Knox trip as well IIRC (but I don't remember which)
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This is ONLY for the Snapdragon version (From US, not China) and it uses Samsung signed permissive and ENG firmware. You also can't charge the phone past 80% with this firmware (Devs working on fixing that) and while it doesn't trip Knox, it will make it useless until you flash full stock back.
Interceptor777 said:
This is ONLY for the Snapdragon version (From US, not China) and it uses Samsung signed permissive and ENG firmware. You also can't charge the phone past 80% with this firmware (Devs working on fixing that) and while it doesn't trip Knox, it will make it useless until you flash full stock back.
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He was replying to the person who said root will 100% trip knox, which isn't true.

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