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Been noticing that the that T-Mobile Stock ROM is Better Than AT&T Stock ROM, no doubt
The T-Mobile Stock ROM is feature-rich, includes all Samsung amenities whereas the AT&T Stock ROM is crippled.
Tmobile will always be better than at&t
BAD ASS NOTE 4
When John Legere took over, he made a concerted effort to make T-Mobile USA simple. One of the side effects of that was cutting back on customisations of OSs (e.g., less bloatware, less feature removal, etc.). This has made T-Mobile USA Android ROMs some of the cleanest carrier ROMs available.
BACARDILIMON said:
Tmobile will always be better than at&t
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Fact. Can't wait for my note 4, arrives Friday.
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After having sold my ATT Note 4 because of the POS locked bootloader I bought a Tmobile one and just got it yesterday. Out of the box the Tmobile one is faster overall, I'm assuming due to less bloatware. I'm pretty impressed so far. Now if I could just get my data to work, calling ATT later to make sure it's provisioned for LTE.
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After having sold my ATT Note 4 because of the POS locked bootloader I bought a Tmobile one and just got it yesterday. Out of the box the Tmobile one is faster overall, I'm assuming due to less bloatware. I'm pretty impressed so far. Now if I could just get my data to work, calling ATT later to make sure it's provisioned for LTE.
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I was having data issues when I brought my phone home too. Turns out i was missing a line in my apn.
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
Of course att will be different but you may want to double check that.
spinedoc said:
After having sold my ATT Note 4 because of the POS locked bootloader I bought a Tmobile one and just got it yesterday. Out of the box the Tmobile one is faster overall, I'm assuming due to less bloatware. I'm pretty impressed so far. Now if I could just get my data to work, calling ATT later to make sure it's provisioned for LTE.
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Dont give them your tmobile IMEI, their system will automatically detect a non AT&T phone and lock you out of LTE. Find another at&T IMEI of an LTE phone and provide them
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Dont give them your tmobile IMEI, their system will automatically detect a non AT&T phone and lock you out of LTE. Find another at&T IMEI of an LTE phone and provide them
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They don't care anymore. Several posters have had no issues at all, and I also had no issue. They didn't bat an eye and I told them right away it was a tmobile phone. Took about 5 minutes for them to set me up. I get LTE perfectly.
I gave away as a Christmas present the AT&T crapware loaded Note 4 that I bought retail price.
Bought the TMobile version, paid $30 for the unock code and did the region unlock. All before putting in my AT&T SIM card.
When I booted Note 4 with SIM card, it immediately set up itself to the proper NET setting and LTE worked no problems.
Awesome firmware after I used a ROOT uninstaller to get rid of TMobile Apps, Carrier IQ, and some Samsung Apps that I'll never use.
Scotsman828 said:
I gave away as a Christmas present the AT&T crapware loaded Note 4 that I bought retail price.
Bought the TMobile version, paid $30 for the unock code and did the region unlock. All before putting in my AT&T SIM card.
When I booted Note 4 with SIM card, it immediately set up itself to the proper NET setting and LTE worked no problems.
Awesome firmware after I used a ROOT uninstaller to get rid of TMobile Apps, Carrier IQ, and some Samsung Apps that I'll never use.
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Which root uninstaller did you use?
Scotsman828 said:
I gave away as a Christmas present the AT&T crapware loaded Note 4 that I bought retail price.
Bought the TMobile version, paid $30 for the unock code and did the region unlock. All before putting in my AT&T SIM card.
When I booted Note 4 with SIM card, it immediately set up itself to the proper NET setting and LTE worked no problems.
Awesome firmware after I used a ROOT uninstaller to get rid of TMobile Apps, Carrier IQ, and some Samsung Apps that I'll never use.
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Can you explain how you did the region unlock ?
Yakuzahi, "Can you explain how you did the region unlock ?
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I used ChainFire's, CF-Auto-Root-trltetmo-trltetmo-smn910t.zip to root.
Then I used RegionLockAway to remove the region lock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2370437&d=1383564029
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spinedoc, "Which root uninstaller did you use? "
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp
Right now (just started looking into this) this seems like a no-brainer. Performance is much better and it's rooted!!!! I know you lose wifi calling in theory (although mine hasn't worked since I purchased it despite hours of troubleshooting and tweaking (sucks bc no coverage at home (rural)), but that can potentially be addressed by a custom rom? Thoughts?
I did the switch. Battery life is better. Speed difference is unnoticeable. Signal/Calling quality is fine. I would most likely switch back if root was available for the t-mobile model (but wouldn't if advanced calling was available for international).
Getting wifi calling + VOLTE + video calling is no small task if that matters to you (the S6's wifi calling was never ported to international models even though they shared the same chipset). It would take porting a qualcomm written csc to a exynos chipset and either porting t-mobile's custom ims implimentation or making the standard ims implimentation work with t-mobile. That being said, it has been done. The Galaxy S5 saw advanced calling from the S6 ported back, HTC's flagships have had wifi calling ported.
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
hi, I switched too and I'm glad I did, battery is definitely better and I didn't notice performance differences (nor reception). I believe wifi calling hasn't been/can't be ported but some roms support VOLTE. Just be advised that samsung doesn't honor the warranty of international variants in the US hence insurance companies such as Upsie won't insure your device.
How do you switch?
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You have no warranty though, and Samsung Pay can be tricky to get working.
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Just got an international variant yesterday. Loving it but been struggling to change my CSC to one that supports Samsung Pay. I know the LYS CSC supports it and I've flashed it in Odin which reported success and did fine but upon using my device it didn't change my CSC. So confused as to why...
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Buy a 935F from ebay/swappa. Pay off your 935t, sell it on swappa/ebay.
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How do you switch?
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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This is my SM-935T Model phone two sim cards active okay..?
i bought it on ebay dual sim for 620$ shipped. its way snappier and the battery life is significantly better. i havent rooted it yet
Remix22 said:
The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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What CSC are you on?
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Nitemare3219 said:
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
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My experience with my international S6 was very similar to yours. I moved back to the states with it and signed up with T-mobile. In my gym, which is underground, I could barely get a 4G signal (or nothing at all). Emails and notifications wouldn't come through even when I was connected to 4G. I got the s7e on tmobile and although signal still isn't strong, notifications come through reliably.
Not too scientific as they are different phone models and I've never paid this observation too much mind but now that I've heard your story, I'm inclined to think that carrier specific models might be better at picking up signal on that carrier.
Been using international version for a while, returned my t-mobile version on the 20th day, by that time it was apparent to me that the t-mobile version would not be getting rooted anytime soon. In my opinion this device is much better rooted, especially since i like a lot of color schemes on my status bar and the Ads were driving me crazy. would've preferred a rooted t-mobile version, but a rooted international version is light years better than a stock version of any kind imo.
I'm on MID (Iraq)
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What CSC are you on?
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I bought an unlocked S8 at Best Buy because it was a good deal.
However, I'm noticing AT&T is restricting Wifi calling. There isn't even an option to turn in on.
Are they preventing this? If so, can I get it turned on by them ? I'm assuming there is a ROM I could flash to get it, but I would hate nothing during flashing bricking my phone.
Any other features I'm missing? Since I have really bad coverage at my desk at work, WIFI calling is important to me. I'm considering returning the phone and going to ATT brand, but there is a $35.00 restocking fee. I feel Best Buy should have told me the downsides of an unlocked.
I didn't get any restocking fee when I returned my ATT S8. Got a full refund, no questions asked. Besides if you're just swapping out to another carrier one, I'm sure they will waive it. I have MintSim (Tmo) and WiFi calling can be enabled and works fine for me on the unlocked firmware on my Vzw S8.
AFAIK, AT&T does not allow wifi calling for non-branded phones.
Can anyone explain to my why this would be? Is there any technical reason that they cannot do this on an non branded phone or are they being difficult?
I know it could be that they are strong armming me into another 2 year agreement, but if I can't use Wifi Calling, I cannot use their service due to poor reception at work. I think it would be in their best interest to let me use this feature.
Everyone I talked to on phone and in store basically act like it should be fine.
PS Running Android 7.0
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Can anyone explain to my why this would be? Is there any technical reason that they cannot do this on an non branded phone or are they being difficult?
I know it could be that they are strong armming me into another 2 year agreement, but if I can't use Wifi Calling, I cannot use their service due to poor reception at work. I think it would be in their best interest to let me use this feature.
Everyone I talked to on phone and in store basically act like it should be fine.
PS Running Android 7.0
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I am slightly confident that CSC (country/carrier specific code) patch can fix this issue but you would need to look into the other section for that and I say this because it fixed VoLTE issue for some other guys...
WiFi is not possible on AT&T network with the Unlocked version of S8 phones
This may help others who are considering the Unlocked S8.
Note: As of today, no options available from either AT&T or Samsung to enable WiFi calling.
After multiple trips to AT&T, BestBuy Samsung, chat sessions with Samsung support and now calling Samsung Premium Care, I finally confirmed that the Unlocked S8 model does not have any possible software upgrade to enable WiFi calling. Why did so many not know?
Samsung:
Please revise your website to clearly state the limitation, (WiFi is not possible on AT&T network ), with the Unlocked version of your S8 phones.
What's Next?
I was told that there is nothing that Samsung can do for me but Return the phone for Refund.
Now returning this phone requires me to again pay additional cost for replacing/activating another SIM for my old phone to use during the time I process an order for my next phone. Samsung cost me hours of my time and wasted my money.
bdaoust said:
I bought an unlocked S8 at Best Buy because it was a good deal.
However, I'm noticing AT&T is restricting Wifi calling. There isn't even an option to turn in on.
Are they preventing this? If so, can I get it turned on by them ? I'm assuming there is a ROM I could flash to get it, but I would hate nothing during flashing bricking my phone.
Any other features I'm missing? Since I have really bad coverage at my desk at work, WIFI calling is important to me. I'm considering returning the phone and going to ATT brand, but there is a $35.00 restocking fee. I feel Best Buy should have told me the downsides of an unlocked.
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dealing with the same thing and entirely frustrated. so much wasted time that a simple disclaimer would've saved me from.
wifi calling is a feature enabled by a carrier, not the phone brand. if you want wifi-calling, flash the relevant firmware for your carrier just like i did for VZW to get wifi-calling to work. and btw, this information was widely known by doing some research previous to purchase. i had no problem finding this out but ordered anyway with the intent to flash the firmware.
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wifi calling is a feature enabled by a carrier, not the phone brand. if you want wifi-calling, flash the relevant firmware for your carrier just like i did for VZW to get wifi-calling to work. and btw, this information was widely known by doing some research previous to purchase. i had no problem finding this out but ordered anyway with the intent to flash the firmware.
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i flashed it with straight up ATT, all files from here:
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AT&T QF7 (latest fw)
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and wifi calling won't work. just gives me this message:
"Oops!
We can't turn on Wi-Fi Calling for your account. Think this message is a mistake? Ask the person who can make account changes to call us..."
After numerous calls to Samsung and AT&T you absolutely cannot enable wifi calling on the unlocked phone. Only phones purchased as AT&T branded are allowed the full feature set.
If in fact you DID buy an AT&T S8, you can unlock it and keep said features, but not in reverse of that. Which blows.
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i flashed it with straight up ATT, all files from here:
and wifi calling won't work. just gives me this message:
"Oops!
We can't turn on Wi-Fi Calling for your account. Think this message is a mistake? Ask the person who can make account changes to call us..."
After numerous calls to Samsung and AT&T you absolutely cannot enable wifi calling on the unlocked phone. Only phones purchased as AT&T branded are allowed the full feature set.
If in fact you DID buy an AT&T S8, you can unlock it and keep said features, but not in reverse of that. Which blows.
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That really makes no sense.... (Not that you're lying) but there's specific firmwares for the unlocked S8's depending on carrier. the G950U1 has different CSC's depending on what carrier it's used for. Why do that if it doesn't enable that carriers features?!
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That really makes no sense.... (Not that you're lying) but there's specific firmwares for the unlocked S8's depending on carrier. the G950U1 has different CSC's depending on what carrier it's used for. Why do that if it doesn't enable that carriers features?!
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flashing other carriers might work (like Tmobile), but not with ATT as they are using based on the IMEI registered with ATT brand.. so flashing any CSC won't enable it as long as you spoke to their customer care and provide your No and other ATT phone to activate Wifi calling on your number.. this is not 100% working method.. search through teh CSC selection forum there people posted a workaround.
KeithDo said:
This may help others who are considering the Unlocked S8.
Note: As of today, no options available from either AT&T or Samsung to enable WiFi calling.
After multiple trips to AT&T, BestBuy Samsung, chat sessions with Samsung support and now calling Samsung Premium Care, I finally confirmed that the Unlocked S8 model does not have any possible software upgrade to enable WiFi calling. Why did so many not know?
Samsung:
Please revise your website to clearly state the limitation, (WiFi is not possible on AT&T network ), with the Unlocked version of your S8 phones.
What's Next?
I was told that there is nothing that Samsung can do for me but Return the phone for Refund.
Now returning this phone requires me to again pay additional cost for replacing/activating another SIM for my old phone to use during the time I process an order for my next phone. Samsung cost me hours of my time and wasted my money.
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Time I understand. You will never get that back. The SIM card issue I don't understand. Didn't you keep the old sim card from your old phone. Yes, AT&T will have to reactivate it, but they should do that for free. The only time I've had to pay is when I needed to get a new physical SIM card because the size was wrong for the phone I wanted to use. If you kept the old SIM card, you can simply reactivate it and stick it in your old phone again.
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That really makes no sense.... (Not that you're lying) but there's specific firmwares for the unlocked S8's depending on carrier. the G950U1 has different CSC's depending on what carrier it's used for. Why do that if it doesn't enable that carriers features?!
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it's all tied to your IMEI, and that can't be changed. the VoLTE and Wifi Calling are non-existent unless you bought an ATT branded phone.
Guys ... I'm still looking for other options BUT this will work ....
If you have a business account you can just go in to the account and change your billing acct IMEI for your unlocked phone to an IMEI of an AT&T S8 (get one from a friend, go to the store and check out the displays, etc)
If you don't have a business acct call support , eventually you can get a person that knows what to do and they can plug in a working IMEI
This works ... works on my S7 Edge as well
Flashed unlocked phone with ATT FW. Then changed my account's imei with the imei from an ATT branded phone and that got me advanced calling options. Wifi calling will worked for about 10 seconds until ATT reads the phone's actual imei and then they turn off wifi calling. Volte will continue to work.
AT&T OTA Update Coming
All, I have just confirmed with AT&T they have made the request for an OTA update to enable WiFi Calling in the Settings Menu from Samsung. The time frame I was given as of yesterday 10/2/2017 was 14 days. So by 10/16/2017 S8 & S8+ phones should receive an OTA update that enables WiFi Calling feature.
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All, I have just confirmed with AT&T they have made the request for an OTA update to enable WiFi Calling in the Settings Menu from Samsung. The time frame I was given as of yesterday 10/2/2017 was 14 days. So by 10/16/2017 S8 & S8+ phones should receive an OTA update that enables WiFi Calling feature.
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Very interesting! This would be a life saver. Do you trust their timeframe?
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Hey. I finally found the Wifi calling settings.
Phone/ Dialer > Context Menu (the three dots on top right corner) > Settings > Wi-Fi calling > And I see my three options there.
I'm on Galaxy S8 G9500U1
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Hey. I finally found the Wifi calling settings.
Phone/ Dialer > Context Menu (the three dots on top right corner) > Settings > Wi-Fi calling > And I see my three options there.
I'm on Galaxy S8 G9500U1
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Hmm, I don't see them (yet?)... SM-G955U1 with phone app version 2.3.00.20. What version of the app do you have?
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Same
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I always got updates bas quick as Essential released them.
June Telus listed the PH1 as EOL (end of life) and pulled all products from their store.
Now I have yet to receive the July update. Anyone else?
Is this how Telus decides to do things? As soon as a device is EOL ignore it and pull out the "we have to run extensive tests to make sure the manufacturer's update is compatible with our network and systems" excuse to hold up updates (ie, ignore the device) to get you to "upgrade".
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Pull out the SIM, restart, and check for an update. You should get the update direct from Essential. I use a Telus device, albeit with Bell and everything has been smooth sailing when it comes to updates.
As for the carriers in Canada I think we can all agree that their best name is Robellus.
Already tried that.
I suppose it will show eventually.
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The same here, no July updates on stock 8.1 / Koodo. Makes me think to ask for refund
So your phones are not unlocked eg they are locked to a carrier?
All Canadian phones are unlocked.
Telus was the only carrier (and it's subbrand Koodoo) that sold the Essential so Essential lets them handle the updates.
Usually, in Canada, when you place a sim card in it is "provisioned" for that carrier. The updates are then handled by that carrier.
For example, my HTC U11+ (a phone not carried by Telus) needs to he on Wifi to get an update notification.
Hence the "take the sim card out" suggestion.
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Well that is unfortunate.
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I always got updates bas quick as Essential released them.
June Telus listed the PH1 as EOL (end of life) and pulled all products from their store.
Now I have yet to receive the July update. Anyone else?
Is this how Telus decides to do things? As soon as a device is EOL ignore it and pull out the "we have to run extensive tests to make sure the manufacturer's update is compatible with our network and systems" excuse to hold up updates (ie, ignore the device) to get you to "upgrade".
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Put in a sim from another carrier to get the update. I have a chatter sim I use for the purpose.
I know we did the Sim swap thing on Motorola devices and it worked fine.
Well that would work if I had a sim from another carrier!
Might be worth buying a prepaid sim for that purpose though.
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jmitr said:
Well that would work if I had a sim from another carrier!
Might be worth buying a prepaid sim for that purpose though.
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You don't need an active SIM, just any other SIM.
That's what most people do.
Finally got "P' pushed by Koodo today. 1047M update to .091 build.
Anyone got one they can sell me? I want a lightly used one with clean esn.... has to have older security version software that allows the use of hidden menu apk. Even better if it's already sim unlocked and have tethering enabled
Will pay good price with paypal. PM me.
I got a G5 from ebay and it has the latest security software ver ZVF preventing the use of hidden menu as well as a lot of other features. so thinking of returning it.
also, i noticed i couldn't lte data stream while talking on the phone (non-VOIP) at the same time on the particular G5 i got... Weird since i could do that on my old samsung s4
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Anyone got one they can sell me? I want a lightly used one with clean esn.... has to have older security version software that allows the use of hidden menu apk. Even better if it's already sim unlocked and have tethering enabled
Will pay good price with paypal. PM me.
I got a G5 from ebay and it has the latest security software ver ZVF preventing the use of hidden menu as well as a lot of other features. so thinking of returning it.
also, i noticed i couldn't lte data stream while talking on the phone (non-VOIP) at the same time on the particular G5 i got... Weird since i could do that on my old samsung s4
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Why buy the sprint model? It’s not worth it unless your using sprint....
GSM and unlocked models can be gotten under $100
Also about having LTE while on the phone. Not possible if using it on a non sprint carrier. As it’s not gonna support volte
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hyelton said:
Why buy the sprint model? It’s not worth it unless your using sprint....
GSM and unlocked models can be gotten under $100
Also about having LTE while on the phone. Not possible if using it on a non sprint carrier. As it’s not gonna support volte
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Well, I am on sprint. I actually bought a G5 on ebay last week. Unfortunately it has ZVF security software ver which prevents me from using the hidden menu..apk to access the menu to enable tethering. I need ver ZV8 or earlier.... It's already unlocked, but hotspot is actually very vital to me. I would rather just go back to my old S4 if i can't get hotspot enabled. And no way in f;ckin hell i am going to pay sprint $30/month for the hotspot subscription when i am paying already $60/month for my unlimited data plan...... So there's that...
My old sprint samsung s4 can certainly stream lte data when i talk on phone..... So it was complete surprise that the sprint G5 i got couldn't do that. didn't know it was just my G5 or maybe that's common to all sprint G5......
Done. Got my ZV9. thanks.