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A2DP still subpar in JI4 Eclair and JP3 Froyo.

In case anyone was curious, A2DP really doesnt sound any better between these builds. I'm starting to give up hope, maybe it's just my phone. The sound quality difference is night and day between my Vibrant and the myTouch 3G I have. I've tried on both my Kenwood head unit in my car and a pair of bluetooth headphones so I'm certain it's not the device I'm pairing with.
Ugh, just needed to vent, thanks.

pardon my ignorance, but i keep reading about A2DP and I finally want to find out what it is.
What is it?!?! thanks!!

A2DP is a bluetooth connection profile that supports high quality stereo audio. In the Vibrant's case however it is far from high quality. I was finally able to try another Vibrant today and it sounds just the same so now I know it's not just my phone. Some songs actually pass as decent bust most have a scratchy sound in the background and just lack overall depth. It really sounds like the bitrate is set too low on the Vibrant. Sabotage by the Bestie Boys for example has constant background noise/distortion that is not present when listening with wired headphones.
I've been digging around and swapping files around with the Korean Rom that has a supposed fix but I haven't made any progress.
One of the reasons I'd really like the Vibrant to sound better is because my Head Unit in my car supports A2DP. I have an app on my Vibrant called Tasker set to automatically fire up Pandora when a bluetooth connection is detected. So basically I can start my car and have my phone automatically start playing Pandora through my stereo, I can even advance songs with my dash controls. The audio quality can make it difficult to enjoy, My wife's myTouch3g on the other hand sounds superb on this same setup.

thanks for the response. i don't have a bluetooth set so that's probably why i haven't noticed this.

It really gets me down that my GPS, Compass, and A2DP are all broken on this phone. I'm gonna try and hold out for another month on a fix. If they released it in Korea hopefully they will release it here. Maybe I can talk Eugene or another dev to look into it
Audio quality is one of those subjective things and I really think a casual listener might not notice the problem but once you do you can't ignore it.

Strange, my BT sounds great streaming music through A2DP. I'm just on the stock Eclair build and streaming music through a Sony BT receiver, MW600. It's not an audiophile solution, but pushing music through some high-end IEMs sound perfectly fine for mobile listening. Maybe your hardware is bad?

I've tried two different Vibrant's on my car stereo and a pair of Bluetooth headphones and the results are the same. Again my wife's mytouch3g works perfect on both devices, maybe I should trade her phones . I've also tried an iPhone4 with excellent results.
Someone has actually opened a bug report with google on this very issue so I know I'm not alone in what I'm hearing:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
There was also an update for the Korean version of the Galaxy S that improved A2DP quality. This confirms that there is probably an issue that has not been addressed with our phones, since there have been no updates for Tmo customers.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/14/korean-galaxy-s-receives-update-version-dg07-samsung-expects-to-sell-10-million-worldwide/

chadti99 said:
I've tried two different Vibrant's on my car stereo and a pair of Bluetooth headphones and the results are the same. Again my wife's mytouch3g works perfect on both devices, maybe I should trade her phones . I've also tried an iPhone4 with excellent results.
Someone has actually opened a bug report with google on this very issue so I know I'm not alone in what I'm hearing:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
There was also an update for the Korean version of the Galaxy S that improved A2DP quality. This confirms that there is probably an issue that has not been addressed with our phones, since there have been no updates for Tmo customers.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/14/korean-galaxy-s-receives-update-version-dg07-samsung-expects-to-sell-10-million-worldwide/
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Honestly, the quality of sound threw my A2DP is better than threw my headphone jack

jz9833 said:
Honestly, the quality of sound threw my A2DP is better than threw my headphone jack
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Hi jz9833, what bluetooth device are you pairing your Vibrant with? Also what firmware, music app, file format are you using?

Have you considered going back to the stock ROM?
BT on mine is virtually identical to the headphone jack output. With Ety ER4p I can detect a little bit of digital hiss, but it's not really noticeable in a mobile environment.

Kubernetes said:
Have you considered going back to the stock ROM?
BT on mine is virtually identical to the headphone jack output. With Ety ER4p I can detect a little bit of digital hiss, but it's not really noticeable in a mobile environment.
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Just today I tried a friends brand new out of the box Vibrant and I could still hear distortion/crackling at high frequencies. I then paired my headphones to my other friends iPhone4 just seconds after testing the new Vibrant and guess what, no distortion.

Man, I don't know what to say to you. My Vibrant sounds better out of BT than my iPod does out of its headphone jack. What BT headset are you using? For some strange reason they may just not get along. I've got a Sony MW600 and it's fantastic.

chadti99 said:
I've tried two different Vibrant's on my car stereo and a pair of Bluetooth headphones and the results are the same. Again my wife's mytouch3g works perfect on both devices, maybe I should trade her phones . I've also tried an iPhone4 with excellent results.
Someone has actually opened a bug report with google on this very issue so I know I'm not alone in what I'm hearing:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
There was also an update for the Korean version of the Galaxy S that improved A2DP quality. This confirms that there is probably an issue that has not been addressed with our phones, since there have been no updates for Tmo customers.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/14/kor...samsung-expects-to-sell-10-million-worldwide/
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There is no word on if this fixed it or not and according to your link this has nothing to do with Samsung.
Look, if you don't know that Samsung has acknowledged GPS by now, has already fixed the compass in the JI4 series you mentioned in this thread, you should just jump over to Android 2.2 and it's problems.. sounds like you won't be getting a fix either way according to your own links

chadti99 said:
Hi jz9833, what bluetooth device are you pairing your Vibrant with? Also what firmware, music app, file format are you using?
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I am on stock vibrant, using the stock music/video app, playing mp3s, mp4s, avis, all going to my Sony MW600s.

heygrl said:
There is no word on if this fixed it or not and according to your link this has nothing to do with Samsung.
Look, if you don't know that Samsung has acknowledged GPS by now, has already fixed the compass in the JI4 series you mentioned in this thread, you should just jump over to Android 2.2 and it's problems.. sounds like you won't be getting a fix either way according to your own links
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The first link confirms that other Android devices are having the same issue. Again my wife's myTouch3G doesn't suffer from the problem so I think it could be a simple bit rate setting that some manufacturers are overlooking.
The second link confirms that there is an A2DP problem on the Samsung Galaxy S and a fix exists.

chadti99 said:
The first link confirms that other Android devices are having the same issue. Again my wife's myTouch3G doesn't suffer from the problem so I think it could be a simple bit rate setting that some manufacturers are overlooking.
The second link confirms that there is an A2DP problem on the Samsung Galaxy S and a fix exists.
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No it doesn't. You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix". The myTouch 3G has Android 1.6 stock and if she hasn't changed it, it's still running Android 1.6.

heygrl said:
No it doesn't. You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix". The myTouch 3G has Android 1.6 stock and if she hasn't changed it, it's still running Android 1.6.
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, I still hear the distortion on a bone stock Vibrant. The reason I tried these beta builds was because I was hoping that Samsung would have incorporated the A2DP update. And yes the mytouch3g is running Android 1.6.
What does "You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix"" mean? I think the fact that Samsung released an update for the Korean Galaxy S that improves A2DP quality pretty much sums it up, there was a problem and they fixed it.
This reminds me of the Oscar Rogers skit on SNL, "Sombeody needs to look at this mess and fix it!", lol.

chadti99 said:
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, I still hear the distortion on a bone stock Vibrant. The reason I tried these beta builds was because I was hoping that Samsung would have incorporated the A2DP update. And yes the mytouch3g is running Android 1.6.
What does "You don't know if the "fix" is not a "fix"" mean? I think the fact that Samsung released an update for the Korean Galaxy S that improves A2DP quality pretty much sums it up, there was a problem and they fixed it.
This reminds me of the Oscar Rogers skit on SNL, "Sombeody needs to look at this mess and fix it!", lol.
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Have you heard the purported fix on your phone? Have you seen what other people have said about it? No and no.

heygrl said:
Have you heard the purported fix on your phone? Have you seen what other people have said about it? No and no.
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This is true, I have no idea what the A2DP fix does besides doing what Samsung claims it does, improve A2DP playback quality, which is exactly what I want. What is your point again?

Bluetooth audio still sounds poor on the new JI5 build. I've tried on three different Vibrants and three different bluetooth audio devices and have had others hear exactly what I hear. My wife's exact words, "Your phone sounds like a radio broadcast and my phone sounds like a CD."
I spoke to Samsung and they acknowledged there was a problem and said it was due to my devices not being Bluetooth 3.0 compatible. To my knowledge you can't even buy headphones that support 3.0 yet. I really wish they could fix this, I really like the phone overall.

Pebble Watch + Car Bluetooth?

I am thinking about purchasing the Pebble SmartWatch. I am curious to if I will be able to connect the watch to my phone while my phone is connected to my truck's bluetooth radio or Bluetooth headset (one at a time). All the reviews i have seen shows it just playing through headphones or the phone's speaker, not through another bluetooth device. Anyone have any experience w/ the pebble watch? 150.00 is alot without confirming that it works.

jason.hamilton said:
I am thinking about purchasing the Pebble SmartWatch. I am curious to if I will be able to connect the watch to my phone while my phone is connected to my truck's bluetooth radio or Bluetooth headset (one at a time). All the reviews i have seen shows it just playing through headphones or the phone's speaker, not through another bluetooth device. Anyone have any experience w/ the pebble watch? 150.00 is alot without confirming that it works.
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I don't think the phone can maintain more than one bluetooth connection at a time. Though my car stereo can so I guess it is possible and just a software issue. Maybe there's an app out there or maybe a Dev could figure it out. BUT since a car stereo connects as a headset MAYBE it could connect to a second device as a data connection (Watch)?
I don't think it's available for the public yet, only shipping to "backers" at this point. Still says "Pre-Order"

My car doesn't have A2DP so I run 2 simultaneous connections and it works perfectly fine. One connection to the car's phone and another for audio through an A2DP device connected so I can listen to music as well as take calls from the car. The phone hands each off just fine. The N4 is perfectly capable of handling multiple Bluetooth connections at a time.
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setzer715 said:
I don't think the phone can maintain more than one bluetooth connection at a time. Though my car stereo can so I guess it is possible and just a software issue. Maybe there's an app out there or maybe a Dev could figure it out. BUT since a car stereo connects as a headset MAYBE it could connect to a second device as a data connection (Watch)?
I don't think it's available for the public yet, only shipping to "backers" at this point. Still says "Pre-Order"
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Th phone can be connected to two things at once. I have my Parrot Minikit Neo and also the HTC stereo stick connected at the same time. So when a call comes in, the Parrot will pick up the call and then when ended, my HTC Stereo stick will continue to play/stream from my phone.
I'm just running PA 3.1 and no audio add-ons/hacks. Using Poweramp and sometimes N7 player to play from my phone.
And I am a backer as well. I have the Grey one on order, and from my understanding, will be one of the last ones to be shipped because they begun shipping only the black pebbles at this point and is approx 30% done with it's backer rewards. So I'll probably get it in May lol.

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Th phone can be connected to two things at once. I have my Parrot Minikit Neo and also the HTC stereo stick connected at the same time. So when a call comes in, the Parrot will pick up the call and then when ended, my HTC Stereo stick will continue to play/stream from my phone.
I'm just running PA 3.1 and no audio add-ons/hacks. Using Poweramp and sometimes N7 player to play from my phone.
And I am a backer as well. I have the Grey one on order, and from my understanding, will be one of the last ones to be shipped because they begun shipping only the black pebbles at this point and is approx 30% done with it's backer rewards. So I'll probably get it in May lol.
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Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.

setzer715 said:
Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.
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I am a backer and I don't expect to see mine until April. lol
They are putting off color orders and producing more black than anything. Their production isn't where they planned on it being either. I expect that April-May shipment for pre-orders to become June-July.

setzer715 said:
Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.
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There's a kickstarter called Embrace+ a notifying bracelet. I don't think it will get funded. It has a lofty goal of $250k and it's about 22k into it with 25 days to go lol. Good idea! But sadly won't get made.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/embraceplus/embrace-1
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diablos991 said:
I am a backer and I don't expect to see mine until April. lol
They are putting off color orders and producing more black than anything. Their production isn't where they planned on it being either. I expect that April-May shipment for pre-orders to become June-July.
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What color did you get?

kpjimmy said:
There's a kickstarter called Embrace+ a notifying bracelet. I don't think it will get funded. It has a lofty goal of $250k and it's about 22k into it with 25 days to go lol. Good idea! But sadly won't get made.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/embraceplus/embrace-1
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Just remember people, Kickstarter is not a store. These investments potentially have much more risk involved.
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What color did you get?
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Gray.

diablos991 said:
Just remember people, Kickstarter is not a store. These investments potentially have much more risk involved.
Gray.
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Cool! Yes I know it's not a store. I have backed quite a few

For the love of everything that is holy I have been trying to find this solution for so long...
I'm basically looking for an Android compatible version of something like the Kensington LiquidAUX setup. For older cars that don't have built in bluetooth but DO have an auxillary in cable, this solution lets you plug the aux in cable into a bluetooth receiver and also gives you a remote that attaches to your steering wheel that can change music tracks. You can see what I mean from these pictures:
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I have been searching and searching and searching and have never found anything that will accomplish this with an Android phone. I had privately always wondered if a Pebble watch could achieve this.

I got my pebble on Friday and have been playing with it all weekend :laugh:. I do love it! I slapped on a skin protector and matte black. Oh and for those who reads the entire thread, I did initially order the grey one, but the colors especially the grey was going to take longer than the black ones, which were produced in abundance and was the first to be produced. Pebble offered to switch to black, which I did and I decided I wanted matte black skin which look awesome IMO. The glossy face looks off with the band. And I am looking at a few cuff bands to house this sucker!
Back to topic. So far the bt plays well with the phone. I can now control my music tracks using my V-Moda M-100's, and also my bt setup in my truck using an HTC Car Clip, which is plugged into my aux port on my head unit. That is paired up with my N4 for playing my tracks. Now I can use my Pebble to skip through tracks! Love it!! No need to wake the phone to swipe.
Also my parrot minikit neo works as well. No conflicts with any of them so far. I will report back if something happens lol.

irishtexmex said:
For the love of everything that is holy I have been trying to find this solution for so long...
I'm basically looking for an Android compatible version of something like the Kensington LiquidAUX setup. For older cars that don't have built in bluetooth but DO have an auxillary in cable, this solution lets you plug the aux in cable into a bluetooth receiver and also gives you a remote that attaches to your steering wheel that can change music tracks. You can see what I mean from these pictures:
I have been searching and searching and searching and have never found anything that will accomplish this with an Android phone. I had privately always wondered if a Pebble watch could achieve this.
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Ran across this old thread randomly while reading about the Pebble, I know it's blatant necromancy but I felt compelled to post and mention that Kensington made a standard Android compatible version of that device, same name and everything. Only difference is that instead of having the 20 pin cable sticking out it has a USB port down there that will charge any old phone...
The thing is old as dirt and it's actually discontinued I think so good luck finding it, wasn't even meant for Android per se, I've been using mine for the better part of three years! Worked fine with my last dumb phone (a Sony Ericsson) as well as my last three Android phones. The only occasional issue is that it'll lose power if wiggled but that could just be the fault of my 2007 Civic's janky 12V port (never bothered to try it in another car). The brilliant part about this thing is really that wireless remote, I didn't even use that wheel bracelet it comes with, just Velcro'd it to a slot on my Civic's steering wheel and it damn near looks stock. I've no idea what kinda wireless protocol they use or whether it communicates with the phone or directly with the base, I'm pretty sure it's the latter...
There's lots of Bluetooth devices like this one meant to sit in the dash or discretely below it, some might even be better suited if your aux jack and 12V port aren't immediately adjacent (I've seen smaller devices) or if they're pretty hidden (the mic on the LiquidAux isn't great), but I've NEVER seen one with a wireless remote like this (they often don't even have any kinda music playback controls)... And I've looked around occasionally too cause I've got several friends with semi recent 2009-2011 cars without BT built in for whom this would be an awesome gift (plus I'd kinda like a backup, I'm gonna be stuck with my Civic for a few more years still!).
If anyone knows of an alternative I'm all ears, I guess something like the Pebble (not necessarily a $150 smartwatch) that can control playback while another device handles BT streaming would sorta work but it seems like a workaround... I've no idea why Kensington stopped making this thing, it was kinda ahead of it's time IMO since piping music over BT wasn't anywhere near as common or popular when it came out, Android was barely catching on and iOS BT support lagged dumb phones...
In fact I remember being mildly annoyed that my Sony Ericsson dumb phone fully supported the playback controls on the remote yet iOS on my IPod touch (2nd gen) only allowed play/pause but no track skipping (things like that soured me on iOS, that was the one and only Apple device I owned, tho I'm glad to have tried it out). There's tons of BT-less cars on the road for which this would be a perfect solution. Someone oughta petition Kensington to bring it back or put out a rip off thru Kickstarter... I remember paying like $45 for it during a CompUSA sale (before they first closed, yes it's really that old, pretty sure it preceded the iOS version), beats the heck out of replacing your stereo deck just for BT IMO.

Headphones: N4 Compatible

Hello,
Please post headphones that you know of that have remote/playback/volume controls that work with the Nexus 4.
The previous thread got filled with expensive ****, so this thread is intended for regular consumers who want something affordable and compatible with the N4.

LG QuadBeats LE410 which are the ones the Google Play store sell.

One button Beats By Dre Studio works just fine!

i think those that google play sells should be ok

I am currently using a pair of "AURIA Exceed Sports Earphones (2013 version)" which seem to work well with the Nexus 4. Also fairly cheap at around $40 (shipping to the UK was another story though...)
The main reason I went for the headphones was the volume slider which works with the Nexus 4. While probably not quite as efficient as directly controlling the devices volume, however as the N4 doesn't support more than one button on the remote the volume slider does the job. The inline remote also as a mic and single button which works to pause/resume music etc.
The other benefit from my point of view is that the earphones are the older style of in ear ones - ie they rest in the outer part of the ear, rather than having a bit that sticks right into the ear. Personally I find this more comfortable and it also allows me to retain some situational awareness when out walking/jogging. I know some people prefer more noise isolation though!

Jabra Sports are great, but they are towards the pricey side. You can get them from T-Mobile for $78. I use them everyday and they are superb. I never have to take my phone out to change songs or make a call.
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KOSS Porta Pro.
I bought and I'll test.
but I do not have any problem.

Griffin woodtones work awesome .. Also sound great
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Azarin said:
I am currently using a pair of "AURIA Exceed Sports Earphones (2013 version)" which seem to work well with the Nexus 4. Also fairly cheap at around $40 (shipping to the UK was another story though...)
The main reason I went for the headphones was the volume slider which works with the Nexus 4. While probably not quite as efficient as directly controlling the devices volume, however as the N4 doesn't support more than one button on the remote the volume slider does the job. The inline remote also as a mic and single button which works to pause/resume music etc.
The other benefit from my point of view is that the earphones are the older style of in ear ones - ie they rest in the outer part of the ear, rather than having a bit that sticks right into the ear. Personally I find this more comfortable and it also allows me to retain some situational awareness when out walking/jogging. I know some people prefer more noise isolation though!
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I've heard a pair of 'a-Jays' (not sure which one) playback controls work with the N4, when configuring their app. Anyone can confirm?

Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks

Brainwavz R1 is not bad

Gemichi said:
Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks
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The headphones that came with my Sony Clerks Arc do NOT work with N4. Mic is trying to connect continually and awaking Google now search, and sound is awful mono. I bought the lg red edition ones... Worse sound, but they work.
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Any noise cancelling (active or passive) around ear headphones? Does the Sony's headphones work well with Nexus 4? Thanks
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I'd recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 unless you have very large ears. Then go with the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.

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I'd recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 unless you have very large ears. Then go with the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.
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I'm not really sure if my ears are big or not...I had a Bose AE2 before and when I wear it, the top part of my ear is touching the inner top of the headphone.

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I'm not really sure if my ears are big or not...I had a Bose AE2 before and when I wear it, the top part of my ear is touching the inner top of the headphone.
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The M50's pads are similarly sized, with a slightly different shape. If the fit of the AE2 was uncomfortable, the M50's fit probably would be too.

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The M50's pads are similarly sized, with a slightly different shape. If the fit of the AE2 was uncomfortable, the M50's fit probably would be too.
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Maybe all I need is to adjust the head band. The most I concern about is the noise cancelling. Active noise cancelling always do a better job, but have you tried using it on a bus? and how was it?

Never fails, "any headphones with volume support?" 30 responses and 1 has volume support :rofl:
And as far as I know there aren't any without going bluetooth.

Dear contributors, first post is pretty clear : do you know any earbuds that support volume control + remote and if possible available for a fair price ? Please stop polluting this thread by saying you just bought earbuds and "will report" or that you "don't know" if those earbuds you happen to like are compatible. To be honest most of us don't care since we can't use these informations in any way
Here's my contribution:
Volume control works with these earbuds since it is analogic. They were quite pricey when prime time a few years ago but you can get them for dirt cheap now. Apart from volume control and mic/button, they feature nice things (decent sound, tangle free invisibleshield coated cord, pouch, clever management system ...). I ordered myself a set and got them a few weeks ago. Here's a review with some pics that in my opinion says it all. I found sound quality to be very OK without of course being mindblowing (though clearly comparable to earbuds $20 more expensive i owned). The real highlights here are the clever cable management system and compatible volume control. If you need to know anything else, just ask _ I would totally recommend them for the $27 price tag !
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Deeco7 said:
I've heard a pair of 'a-Jays' (not sure which one) playback controls work with the N4, when configuring their app. Anyone can confirm?
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I have a-jays four (this is the top of the range version). Playback control works as is with google music and every other music app i tried, without requesting any extra app via central button. Sadly no support for volume control though, even with dedicated apps _ volume buttons signals are not compatible with Android. So i wont say they are fully compatible with our phone.

Can someone recommend a earpiece with solid microphone?
I had tried jay one+ but the mic not very good(too soft on the other end).

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Sadly no support for volume control though, even with dedicated apps _ volume buttons signals are not compatible with Android. So i wont say they are fully compatible with our phone.
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Is that a fact? For the years that I've had android phones I never really looked into the issue, I've seen people say there were hardware incompatibilities but if the ability to recognize headphone volume controls is actually absent from the OS that is a bit pathetic. I thought some of the HTC and samsung handsets offer this though, so do they bake it into the OS?
edit - I just checked the S4 and it does support volume control, at least with samsung buds, doesn't answer whether or not android natively supports it but it is at least capable.

[Q] Poor bluetooth audio quality when connected to Gear

Hey there,
I'm no audiophile - but this has been bugging me ever since I unboxed my Galaxy Gear and paired it with my Note 3.
I listen to music a lot on my phone using my bluetooth headphones. I noticed that whenever my Gear is connected, bluetooth audio quality suffers a lot - it feels like the bitrate is cut in half or something (shouldn't be necessary, I know BT 4.0 has much more bandwidth than SBC encoded music requires). Highs crackle and feel tinny, and the lows become shallow.
Is there a way to remedy this? I'd hate to have to disconnect my Gear everytime I want to listen to music, which is what I've been doing for the last eight and a half months. Custom ROMs don't help, and it doesn't seem to matter either whether my Gear runs Tizen or Android.
Thanks in advance, I'm psyched to try anything anyone has to offer.
-odd
PS. Even if you can't offer a solution, if you've noticed the same thing please reply to this thread so I know I'm not insane or anything. Thanks

oddbehreif said:
Hey there,
I'm no audiophile - but this has been bugging me ever since I unboxed my Galaxy Gear and paired it with my Note 3.
I listen to music a lot on my phone using my bluetooth headphones. I noticed that whenever my Gear is connected, bluetooth audio quality suffers a lot - it feels like the bitrate is cut in half or something (shouldn't be necessary, I know BT 4.0 has much more bandwidth than SBC encoded music requires). Highs crackle and feel tinny, and the lows become shallow.
Is there a way to remedy this? I'd hate to have to disconnect my Gear everytime I want to listen to music, which is what I've been doing for the last eight and a half months. Custom ROMs don't help, and it doesn't seem to matter either whether my Gear runs Tizen or Android.
Thanks in advance, I'm psyched to try anything anyone has to offer.
-odd
PS. Even if you can't offer a solution, if you've noticed the same thing please reply to this thread so I know I'm not insane or anything. Thanks
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Same thing on my Xperia Z2.. Try Google bluedroid android Bluetooth stack..

shareonline said:
Same thing on my Xperia Z2.. Try Google bluedroid android Bluetooth stack..
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Thanks for the suggestion.
CSR diagnostics revealed that bitpool was indeed dropped from 52 to 35 whenever Gear was connected, however this problem counts as solved because I actually managed to enable the hidden aptX support in my headphones, so low bitpool is no longer an issue.
In short: Stop using SBC and the problem will go away.

I don't know how you do that. I got the same issue with my gear and galaxy s5 paired with my sol republic track air. those headphone are supposed to use aptx but my music still suffer a lot when connected to Gear
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MaLiXs said:
I don't know how you do that. I got the same issue with my gear and galaxy s5 paired with my sol republic track air. those headphone are supposed to use aptx but my music still suffer a lot when connected to Gear
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Yes, same thing here. This really grinds my gear(s).
But seriously, I am quite angry about this.

rytymu said:
Yes, same thing here. This really grinds my gear(s).
But seriously, I am quite angry about this.
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I got the gear as a gift and I didnt use it anymore ... my music is more important that a watch ....

Looking to purchase a Joying Android Head Unit. Any Good?

Hi Guys
I'm about to purchase this unit https://www.amazon.com/Android-Loll...ie=UTF8&qid=1465622931&sr=8-4&keywords=joying
Just a couple of questions
Does it look good?
Can it be rooted?
And finally does it have usb dash cam support.
Thanks

I'm also looking at a similar unit from joying..... did you end up getting it?
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aplusmiami said:
I'm also looking at a similar unit from joying..... did you end up getting it?
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Unfortunately with 97 views so far, no one can/will answer my questions.
I'm afraid to buy any unit at the moment until I get advice.
Suppose the question I should ask is for 250-300 dollars what's the best unit one can buy?
Thanks

That's how I feel. I've think I've ruled out the indash from the thread it seems there are a lot of bugs. The joying seems to be the most popular but not enough feed back from real world experience.
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I am also still waiting and cannot decide which one to buy. I definitely want a unit which has Android 5.1 and is compatible with MTCD units so that I can flash Malaysk's ROM.
For me the question is, should I wait for 2GB RAM or not? Who knows how long we have to wait for that?
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I'm in the same boat, so unfortunately, I don't have any answers to help either.
InDash is a good $150 more, but the internal components are much better. It seems to me the biggest issue with that unit is the software, so there are opportunities to fix those bugs. The community is smaller, but there is hope.
But is hope worth $150 bucks?

doctorman on here is a Joying reseller or something. He's pretty good at answering stuff. I sent him an email about a different question, and I got an Out of Office reply. Said he would be back Tuesday i think. So just wait a day or so, and I'm sure he'll give you the rundown.
as the others have said, In-Dash has way better hardware specs, but it is new, and those bugs can be fixed, but at the same time, they haven't sold that many units. In the In-Dash thread, people's order numbers were like #15, and they seemed to be somewhat sequential. So at some point they may decide they are not selling enough units to make it worthwhile to keep working on the software.
Pumpking and Joying have been in business for a long time, so they have more reasons to keep working on the software. Also check out RoadNavi.com, they have a pretty active forum, and a thread on here for the S160. Seems like support is pretty good.

Roadnavi website been down all day. Pumpking seems to have the most users or reviews that are positive on amazon...
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You can't get to http://www.roadnavi.com/product-category/indash-navigation-system/s160-android/ ?
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Installed the joying so far i like it.
Had to trim my bezel so not sure if it's actually true din size.
Bluetooth speakerphone using the radio builtin mic works pretty good, just as good as my pioneer. Call voice comes through passenger side speaker only and haven't found an option to charge that.
You Tube, Facebook, gmail, gmaps, igo, SiriusXM and waze work well
Reverse Cam looks good
LCD actually suprizingly works very good even in day light. Nice and Brite.
It's locked up on me maybe twice that I can recall. No big deal. Response and speed overall is good.
Very happy so far.
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One other thing. Radio reception is horrible. With the fm amplifier is a bit better but not much
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Nice, I just ordered the Jeep specific Joying unit
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Is that how yours looks with the default Joying 5.1 ?
I just got the Jeep Specific one and mine looks different:

CadillacMike said:
Is that how yours looks with the default Joying 5.1 ?
I just got the Jeep Specific one and mine looks different:
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My understanding is the Jeep specific one is not Android 5.1.1, its only 4.4. your GUI will look different from his. Has anyone gotten 5.1.1 to work on the Jeep specific one? I have been waiting for confirmation from Candy at Joying that the Universal 5.1.1 Head unit they have will fit and work with Canbus in the Jeep.. I've heard/read that the hardward in the 5.1.1 version is better for sound quality.. that and the DSP. I could be wrong though??

Airborne29th said:
My understanding is the Jeep specific one is not Android 5.1.1, its only 4.4. your GUI will look different from his. Has anyone gotten 5.1.1 to work on the Jeep specific one? I have been waiting for confirmation from Candy at Joying that the Universal 5.1.1 Head unit they have will fit and work with Canbus in the Jeep.. I've heard/read that the hardward in the 5.1.1 version is better for sound quality.. that and the DSP. I could be wrong though??
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Mine is 5.1, at least that is what is says it is. The 5.1 is not on the Joying website yet, but it is on the Amazon Joying page, and Joying said it was legit:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IB8V2AO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And if you go to the Car Joying website, and look at the "Android 5.1 Car stereo" section across the top, there is a drop down menu that shows Jeep Android 5.1 Car Stereo:
https://www.carjoying.com/android-5-1-car-stereo/jeep-android-5-1-car-stereo.html
It just doesn't show up yet.
But I think I found the answer to the interface. I looked at their blog and there are 3 to 4 updates to the Android 5.1 versions, and one says "Date: Apr 30, 2016 - NEW UI Interface for android 5.1.1 lollipop"
https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/42.html
I'm going to try those this week

Well, I was wrong above again. Looks like I have a current MCU, shows June 2016. Not sure how to get the interface. I emailed Joying to see what they say.

aplusmiami said:
Installed the joying so far i like it.
Had to trim my bezel so not sure if it's actually true din size.
Bluetooth speakerphone using the radio builtin mic works pretty good, just as good as my pioneer. Call voice comes through passenger side speaker only and haven't found an option to charge that.
You Tube, Facebook, gmail, gmaps, igo, SiriusXM and waze work well
Reverse Cam looks good
LCD actually suprizingly works very good even in day light. Nice and Brite.
It's locked up on me maybe twice that I can recall. No big deal. Response and speed overall is good.
Very happy so far.
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One other thing. Radio reception is horrible. With the fm amplifier is a bit better but not much
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So been using it for two weeks and I am VERY happy with it. If you have a hot spot it's just like using your phone.
Some notes for those of you that have the unit to help with install.
I connected the antenna amplifier (Optional) to the Blue labeled antenna power output on the radio.
I thought the GPS and Home buttons did not illuminate but they do. You have to connect the illumination wire (Orange with White Stripe) to 12V Acc or to your cars illumination wire and the buttons light up. They transition into different colors not sure how to change that yet.
Video player does not work (Safety feature) Not sure if grounding the brake wire will bypass this.
The iGo software for GPS is fantastic, I do get GPS signal lost periodically, we have had bad weather lately so not sure whats up with that yet
Key 1 - Key 2 mystery - I have the axxess ASWC steering wheel adapter. Connecting Key 1 or Key 2 to the pink wire (cut the connector off the axxess) and I am able to setup the Steering wheel controls Vol +, Vol - and Mute. Nothing else works (2007 NBS Silverado). Still messing with that. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I think I need to manually program the Axxess Radio selection to a HU that matches the Joying. I read somewhere that Pioneer is the best match. The Axxess unit worked fine with my previous Pioneer HU.
Sub woofer output is a single mono port, needed a Y-Adapter to connect to my Sub-AMP.
Touch screen response is actually pretty good - requires a little pressure to respond.
FM radio reception is crappy - Even with the amp (Little better) - Haven't tried AM yet.

aplusmiami said:
Video player does not work (Safety feature) Not sure if grounding the brake wire will bypass this.
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do you have an option to allow it in Car Settings or something like that? Mine did

I just got mine. I'm still wiring up the amps, but so far I can tell... The radio sounds like a low bit rate mp3. I don't listen to the radio a whole lot, so not entirely a big deal. Anything other than the radio seems to sound fine. Need to do more testing. The built in amp seems OK but don't expect a lot of output without distortion once the volume gets past 80 percent.
If I can fine tune the sound a bit more I'm sure I'll keep this thing. It is pretty cool what you can do with it.

Sorry. I have not been on this part of forums in a while.
I have a joying HU. Im pretty sure every HU owner (Joying or not will agree that android HU are good) so I will just tell you about a few of my bad points.
My car is a Mazda3
I did not buy a car specific HU so i got a universal one because of the better specs, so I got the wiring harness with it also.
They did not provide me with a CANBUS so that I can use the LCD screen of my car (which shows time etc).
Another problem I had was that initially when I conntected the head unit I could not hear any sound. Apparently it was due to some blue ant wire or something needing to be connected to the amp. So the local shop done that.
I also was given the rear view camera but I have not installed that. Again this is because I do not have the CANBUS for the car so I cannot be bothered taking the wire from back of the car to the front.
Joying did say they will tell me when the CANBUS is available but due to lack of communication and language barrier I have not been able to find out.
Other than that the HU is great and would recommend it to anyone.

Installed the OP unit in my BRZ last evening.
Need to figure out how to update the interface.
The unit actually works slightly better than I was expecting as far as the touch screen and speed.
The colors are a little washed out on the display but its ok.
The problem I'm having is the same as the other thread in here about the Bluetooth. It doesn't pair with certain devices and when it does pair it crashes the app trying to turn the Bluetooth on.
Trying to get a resolution from Joying..