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Firmware update camera in april..Great improvement

Read here it seems a great improvement......
The update is coming end of april for us...
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-htc-ones-camera-tested

john291 said:
Read here it seems a great improvement......
The update is coming end of april for us...
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/revie...-camera-tested
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404 error here

same here.
wrong link

I think it was taken from the camera examples thread.
Correct link is:http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-htc-ones-camera-tested

Yo
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-htc-ones-camera-tested

I can't post link yet but just google hardwarezone.com.sg and htc one camera review

If it's in April, possible 4.2 too.

bleary said:
I think it was taken from the camera examples thread.
Correct link is:http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-htc-ones-camera-tested
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looks like it's not firmware, but lens. soft defocused edges - lens problem usualy. and there different zoom on samples before and after, that points again on the lens

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Link fixed sorry

nukemonk said:
looks like it's not firmware, but lens. soft defocused edges - lens problem usualy. and there different zoom on samples before and after, that points again on the lens
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I agree. It seems a bit fishy that a firmware update should fix the the defocused edges. Im betting the new updated unit they recieved also had a different lens.
Im just hoping that they will ship units from now on with same lens and its not just a speciel unit for the camera review that HTC shipped to them.
They even point out in the review that they found it strange that the updated firmware had anything to do with the fix of this in the new unit they recieved.

thyttel said:
I agree. It seems a bit fishy that a firmware update should fix the the defocused edges. Im betting the new updated unit they recieved also had a different lens.
Im just hoping that they will ship units from now on with same lens and its not just a speciel unit for the camera review that HTC shipped to them.
They even point out in the review that they found it strange that the updated firmware had anything to do with the fix of this in the new unit they recieved.
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If its got a different lens with the new units then i hope that htc will tell us that

I can't post link yet but just google hardwarezone.com.sg and htc one camera review
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john291 said:
If its got a different lens with the new units then i hope that htc will tell us that
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Well, you would think Samsung would tell the public aswell that their commercial from last year which turned into a scandal for them because they pretended it was shot with the Galaxy S3 but indeed was shot with a pro camera.
Sometimes they do things just to make their product seem better than it is. And hope noones finds out until they have sold you the phone.
But I really hope their not doing something like this because it would be great if its true.
But I will wait to buy one until its publicly available and hear some more reviews then.

thyttel said:
Well, you would think Samsung would tell the public aswell that their commercial from last year which turned into a scandal for them because they pretended it was shot with the Galaxy S3 but indeed was shot with a pro camera.
Sometimes they do things just to make their product seem better than it is. And hope noones finds out until they have sold you the phone.
But I really hope their not doing something like this because it would be great if its true.
But I will wait to buy one until its publicly available and hear some more reviews then.
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Pretty sure that was Nokia, not Samsung.

thyttel said:
Well, you would think Samsung would tell the public aswell that their commercial from last year which turned into a scandal for them because they pretended it was shot with the Galaxy S3 but indeed was shot with a pro camera.
Sometimes they do things just to make their product seem better than it is. And hope noones finds out until they have sold you the phone.
But I really hope their not doing something like this because it would be great if its true.
But I will wait to buy one until its publicly available and hear some more reviews then.
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I checked my camera by shooting my computer monitor. I know there is a refresh/interference pattern but it was good enough to test the corners. I can say it is a little softer right in the VERY corner. But overall the image sharpness is maintained well across the frame. Certainly nothing worse than a big 35mm lens on a big SLR camera. Looks totally respectable. But of course I would appreciate firmware improvements in terms of noise etc.

jaaystott said:
If it's in April, possible 4.2 too.
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It wont come with a 4.2 update, Just an update for the camera

thats superbuls*it no firmware will do such a diffrerence. I saw many reviews and the corner blurness was there in 75% cases...faulty lens looks more believable ohh HTC cant believe this... SGS4 will have such a success year again

kultus said:
thats superbuls*it no firmware will do such a diffrerence. I saw many reviews and the corner blurness was there in 75% cases...faulty lens looks more believable ohh HTC cant believe this... SGS4 will have such a success year again
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why do you keep posting in the HTC One forum if you hate it so much?

Can't the difference in sharpness be related to the buggy ISO values in the current firmware ?
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ant78 said:
why do you keep posting in the HTC One forum if you hate it so much?
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calm down and keep ontopic never wrote down I hate it...actually Im here because I m waiting for one... LOL

[Q] How good is the N4 camera?

HI guys, I'm currently using an s4 and my mom has a nexus 4 however she is not liking it and I'm thinking of switching our phones, i know the s4 has a better camera but how good is the one on the nexus 4? also how would you guys say the battery life is? thanks in advance

if you know how to use a camera, its a wonderful camera. if you just expect to point and click, and get wonderful photos, its so so. battery life is very good, i see 4.5-5.5h screen on time.
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I agree, the camera isnt bad at all. It is a matter of how you look at it. Just dont compare a smartphone camera to a dslr.
The nexus 4 is a great device and it never fail on me once. Of course it depends on the user and how you tweak your phone. I can tell you there are tons of modifications that you can do. It isnt a bad deal at all.
To keep it short: why dont you grab your mothers nexus 4 and try it out for couple days. All answers will be very subjective and in the end it is your decision. What matters is, how you feel!

BTW, I have a s4 and a nexus 5 as well. I HATE using the s4 camera, as Samsung's software does nothing but piss me off(lol), so i stopped using it. both n4 and n5 cams I really like.

thanks guys, I'm running CM11 on my s4 becuz touchwiz pissed me the heck off lol I'm a photographer so it helps to have a decent camera when i don't have my dslr with me i LOVE the sparkly back on it it looks so sweet not to mention my s4 isn't the prettiest phone out there lol

Love the N4, hate the camera
no_username_available said:
HI guys, I'm currently using an s4 and my mom has a nexus 4 however she is not liking it and I'm thinking of switching our phones, i know the s4 has a better camera but how good is the one on the nexus 4? also how would you guys say the battery life is? thanks in advance
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The ONLY thing I've ever been disappointed in with my N4 is the camera. I also have the S4 (running CM11) and there's no comparison, the S4's 13 Megapixel camera blows away the N4's 8 megapixel. However, as long as there is PLENTY of light the N4 does take nice shots regardless of which camera app your using.
Battery life is almost a whole day running CM11 M8 build (4.4.4.)
Personally, I'm waiting for the G3..

thanks, ill just have to play around with the camera, guess you'll be seeing me on this forum quite a bit from now on

If you're looking for a good camera the last phone you want to get is the Nexus 4. Even the S2 camera is better...
You can do some adjustments to make the quality better (Exposure, Autofocus mode) but that will take you about 10 seconds which may be a lot if you need to take a quick shot

Mashed_Potatoes said:
If you're looking for a good camera the last phone you want to get is the Nexus 4. Even the S2 camera is better...
You can do some adjustments to make the quality better (Exposure, Autofocus mode) but that will take you about 10 seconds which may be a lot if you need to take a quick shot
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True. The GS4 has an amazing camera. I tried my mom's old gs4 and it's much better. I recently has a G2 for a while and used the camera quite a bit. The screen broke and I'm back to nexus. I feel like the camera is off a old Nokia phone compared to gs4 and g2. Before I had the g2, i thought the camera was actually pretty good.

well i bought a oneplus one and I'm just gonna sell the nexus 4 but thanks for your input guys much appreciated

no_username_available said:
well i bought a oneplus one and I'm just gonna sell the nexus 4 but thanks for your input guys much appreciated
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Good choice

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Good choice
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thanks

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thanks
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As there is no official way of buying a One+One in Serbia i've checked the Serbian equivalent of eBay...someone is selling a brand new one, for 650 euros (950 canadian $).
It's the 16gb! WHAT A RIP OFF!

Mashed_Potatoes said:
As there is no official way of buying a One+One in Serbia i've checked the Serbian equivalent of eBay...someone is selling a brand new one, for 650 euros (950 canadian $).
It's the 16gb! WHAT A RIP OFF!
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lol what a rip, try oppomart and see if they ship to serbia

Nexus 6 Camera Sucks

Did Google paid off "professional" reviewers?
Using the N6 in just a few hours, one would easily come to the conclusion that its camera is "turds" as "heck"
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What a disappointing POS!

knite75 said:
Did Google paid off "professional" reviewers?
Using the N6 in just a few hours, one would easily come to the conclusion that its camera is sh*t as f*ck.
What a disappointing POS!
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Well you never get a nexus for the camera . what alternative everyone using

I have no idea what you mean. I think it is awesome!

knite75 said:
Did Google paid off "professional" reviewers?
Using the N6 in just a few hours, one would easily come to the conclusion that its camera is Mod edit
What a disappointing POS!
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The whole phone's Mod edit. Return it asap before you aren't able to. ?
N6

knite75 said:
Did Google paid off "professional" reviewers?
Using the N6 in just a few hours, one would easily come to the conclusion that its camera is sh*t as f*ck.
What a disappointing POS!
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maybe you just dont know how to actually use a camera besides for pointing and clicking? if you just point and click, itll just take an average focus photo, and its not that great. if you press on the point you want it focused on(point and click), itll come out much better, focus and lighting.

Come on guys/gals. Watch the language.

This is just your opinion. I've had much worse cameras on phones such as the moto x. Is it the best camera on a phone? No, but it clearly isn't the worst camera ever. This is what every reviewer said. I kinda doubt you even have a nexus 6 if you are saying it is that bad.
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I like it. Is it perfect? No, but it's damn good and it'll probably only get better with updates.
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So...are you a Note 4 or iPhone 6 owner OP? They are the only ones that come in here and try to trash the N6 camera.
Your bridge is missing you my friend, please crawl back under it.

simms22 said:
maybe you just dont know how to actually use a camera besides for pointing and clicking? if you just point and click, itll just take an average focus photo, and its not that great. if you press on the point you want it focused on(point and click), itll come out much better, focus and lighting.
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No sense.
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What is wrong with it? Examples?
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Is it better than the M8? That's all I care about.

v8dreaming said:
Is it better than the M8? That's all I care about.
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That it is by far. But most everything is.

knite75 said:
Did Google paid off "professional" reviewers?
Using the N6 in just a few hours, one would easily come to the conclusion that its camera is "turds" as "heck"
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What a disappointing POS!
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?Only an idiot would come to that conclusion and express himself in such an idiotic way.

I took a couple nude photos of myself and they were so good my Dropbox instantly was hacked and they are all over the Internet. This camera is fine.

Love the N6 camera. Better than the GS4 which still to this day is a superb phone camera

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knite75 said:
Did Google paid off "professional" reviewers?
Using the N6 in just a few hours, one would easily come to the conclusion that its camera is "turds" as "heck"
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What a disappointing POS!
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Sounds like user error - there's nothing wrong with the camara...

This thread is useless. Not sure why the mods have let it exist as long as it has existed...

So we can discuss how the first post is wrong so as to not allow others the same lapse in judgment
You can criticize the camera if you'd like, there likely are other cameras that are better and/or worse either overall or in specific situations. The M8 tuning the camera to a lower resolution but better low light performance is an example. There are better cameras sure, but it does take some pretty good shots if low light shooting is your primary concern.
My point is, please debate the camera, debate breeds ideas and opinions which (hopefully) influence what manufacturers put in our devices. But try and be constructive, and where possible specific and/or somewhat scientific in your assessment. If you are, there's a chance we can all help each other find solutions or if need be, recommend a better phone based on your needs.
Now, who's going to hack 60 & 120fps video for us
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Moto G 4th Generation Discussion

So , last night moto g 4th Generation images were leaked .
Lets start discussion of moto g4 here , as i found no thread on xda related to G4 .I will update the thread as per new info leaks !
Do you guys think it is worth upgrade over moto g3 and also comment what should likely will be the specs of Moto G4 ( if it is worth upgrade over g3 )
Specifications -
5.5 inch Display
2 GB RAM
snapdragon 615
16GB ROM
Android 6.0.1
Quad Core processor
13MP Rear ( F/2.0 aperture )
5MP Front camera
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Too large Dispaly for me.
The other Specs aren´t worth it from my point of view.

Moto g3 FTW i dont need something more for daily use.

I'll wait and see what the Moto X looks like.
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say something... Or just keep moving!!

ugly fp, ewwwww

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ugly fp, ewwwww
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Ugly?
The only thing that I hated is the screen resolution. Maybe because of fingerprint scanner...
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where the heck is the speaker? I didn't saw it in any render...

keb00 said:
where the heck is the speaker? I didn't saw it in any render...
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Probably where all the Moto G speakers are.
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This is exactly what I need. My 2013 Moto X showing its age. Hopefully soon.

Tel864 said:
Probably where all the Moto G speakers are.
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So please ilucidate me about where it is..
Maybe they will use the top speaker to be regular speaker too, I would love to have back the dual front speakers.

keb00 said:
So please ilucidate me about where it is..
Maybe they will use the top speaker to be regular speaker too, I would love to have back the dual front speakers.
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Exactly they will use top speaker !
BTW updated thread with price and more leaked data !

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Exactly they will use top speaker !
BTW updated thread with price and more leaked data !
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That makes sense, there already has to be a speaker there for the phone anyway. It lets them cut costs also.

Here's hoping Lenovo made Motorola put near-stock Android on it, still.

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Here's hoping Lenovo made Motorola put near-stock Android on it, still.
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That's what they've been doing for some time now, I don't see why they'd change it.
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Here's hoping Lenovo made Motorola put near-stock Android on it, still.
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Haven't you seen the leaked video ? Moto G4 is fully running on stock android ! 6.0.1 ! It will be relesed in mid may !

I only like camera
I was thinking the finger should be on motorola's Back M it can better than moving finger ahead bottom like samsung and iphone

If 240 euros is the actual price,this phone will be a joke.Lenovo K5 plus has snapdragon 616(less overheating 615) and its 120 euros(150 in some countries).Anyway,its still not sure that it will use sd615.I read somewhere that it will have 2 versions-with sd430 and sd650(if thats true,then it will be right priced).
Also,its easy to see that the fingerprint is photoshopped.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/20/11466402/moto-g-4th-generation-leaks-renders
https://youtu.be/STvfIhY807g
The leaks seems to have some credibility because part of it was right, so I think it's likely we'd have a version with a fingerprint sensor. Although I wonder if it'd be for select countries like the Moto g turbo
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disappointed with mate 9's quality conrol

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I just got mine from B&H today. And here is what I can tell from famous Leica lens. I never saw such kind of dust since Treo. Sign, Huawei even don't have a clean room...

They're actually Sony sensors but yeah unacceptable. Ask for a new unit.
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It's frustrating but give it another chance.
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Absolutely, it's a great device. Don't let this put you off.
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jpsz said:
I just got mine from B&H today. And here is what I can tell from famous Leica lens. I never saw such kind of dust since Treo. Sign, Huawei even don't have a clean room...
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Just get a return and a new one. I've seen this on all smartphones. While not very common it does happen.

Just curious, is it actually visible in photos? Either way, I'd still exchange.
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They're actually Sony sensors but yeah unacceptable. Ask for a new unit.
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I've tried looking, but haven't found out what IMX model sensors the phone is using. Do you happen to know, since you claim they are Sony?

Nitemare3219 said:
Just curious, is it actually visible in photos? Either way, I'd still exchange.
I've tried looking, but haven't found out what IMX model sensors the phone is using. Do you happen to know, since you claim they are Sony?
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Arent they leica?

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Arent they leica?
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I don't know if Leica makes mobile sensors... they might just have done the optics and image processing. At this point nobody seems to know.

Whatever they did, the camera is pretty horrible. I like the phone, but I'll be the first to admit the camera is the worst I've seen in any phone I've owned in the past three or four years. No sharpness, no detail.

duraaraa said:
Whatever they did, the camera is pretty horrible. I like the phone, but I'll be the first to admit the camera is the worst I've seen in any phone I've owned in the past three or four years. No sharpness, no detail.
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What? Lol the camera is great. Something must be wrong with ur unit. Just go look at camera reviews for the mate 9 its def a great camera.

aknotts415 said:
What? Lol the camera is great. Something must be wrong with ur unit. Just go look at camera reviews for the mate 9 its def a great camera.
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Might have to do with the lighting in my house too. I don't take many pictures so I really don't care all that much.

duraaraa said:
Whatever they did, the camera is pretty horrible. I like the phone, but I'll be the first to admit the camera is the worst I've seen in any phone I've owned in the past three or four years. No sharpness, no detail.
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Either you have faulty unit in your hands or then your batcave needs to have couple light bulbs replaced?
Personally I rate Mate 9 camera second in my list.
I've had S7 Edge and iPhone 7Plus and Mate 9 goes middle of those.

duraaraa said:
Whatever they did, the camera is pretty horrible. I like the phone, but I'll be the first to admit the camera is the worst I've seen in any phone I've owned in the past three or four years. No sharpness, no detail.
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something must be wrong with your phone...
i got 10 friends randomly asked me from photos i post to facebook did i buy new dslr camera.... all photos taken with mate 9...i is by far best camera in any phone to date..

bRkiX said:
something must be wrong with your phone...
i got 10 friends randomly asked me from photos i post to facebook did i buy new dslr camera.... all photos taken with mate 9...i is by far best camera in any phone to date..
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+1 [emoji4]
Enviado desde mi MHA-L29

For information - most commonly when "famous" camera and optics brands borrow their names to phone and point-and-shoot makes, its just that - branding. They don't make the sensor and they don't make the lenses. They might have had a slight hand in the design process, i.e. the engineering side of it like drawing up the optical formula. It's not a quality stamp like an actual German made item.
Of course, that does not mean the camera is bad and the unit(s) in the Mate 9s seems pretty decent for this kind of device and definitely competitive. As a image maker by trade however, its obvious to me that it cannot compare to anything with a larger sensor quality wise. It's still a useful tool with creative potential.
Mac

Just do a google search...
Nitemare3219 said:
Just curious, is it actually visible in photos? Either way, I'd still exchange.
I've tried looking, but haven't found out what IMX model sensors the phone is using. Do you happen to know, since you claim they are Sony?
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Just do a google search for "mate 9 camera sensor specs"

revjamescarver said:
Just do a google search for "mate 9 camera sensor specs"
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tyvm for the advice. one year later the mystery is revealed. almost..