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should i buy this phone????
is it worth buying????
Only you can decide that. Watch the video reviews on YouTube and read the reviews all over the web.
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IMHO:
Very good value because of a) price, b) build quality, c) support, both from the manufacturer and ROM teams.
If you're only going for the raw power of the devices, there are cheaper alternatives having the same/very similar specs, but they lack in built quality and support. Or if you need more software feautes, you've got to pay more for HTC/Samsung.
I voted for the "underdog" since I don't like the big companies throwing out device after device and not giving proper support and I only payed ~80€ more than for a Nexus 4, getting double the RAM and a better display - besides, I'd be interested in a Google Edition from HTC/Samsung, but they won't arrive here any time soon.
Besides, I don't know a single task, except maybe hardcore gaming(which I wouldn't want to do on a phone), that doesn't work just fine with any recent phone, so imho it's all about personal preferences.
S.D.Richards said:
IMHO:
Very good value because of a) price, b) build quality, c) support, both from the manufacturer and ROM teams.
If you're only going for the raw power of the devices, there are cheaper alternatives having the same/very similar specs, but they lack in built quality and support. Or if you need more software feautes, you've got to pay more for HTC/Samsung.
I voted for the "underdog" since I don't like the big companies throwing out device after device and not giving proper support and I only payed ~80€ more than for a Nexus 4, getting double the RAM and a better display - besides, I'd be interested in a Google Edition from HTC/Samsung, but they won't arrive here any time soon.
Besides, I don't know a single task, except maybe hardcore gaming(which I wouldn't want to do on a phone), that doesn't work just fine with any recent phone, so imho it's all about personal preferences.
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is this good to go for nexus 4 rather than this phone???????
burninghouse said:
is this good to go for nexus 4 rather than this phone???????
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Up to you.. Do you plan on flashing and modding your phone with custom kernels, ROMs, and recoveries? The N4 has a lot more development but the Find 5 has an incredible outlook on 3rd party development. So far I've seen 2 ads for the Find 5 from OPPO showing off custom ROMs running on them such as Official CyanogenMod 10.1 support and PAC ROM.. (I think the other was PAC ROM) so that right there is something to take into consideration should you need to return your device for any reason. No more flash counters or flashing back to stock..even though that's as easy as flashing their official firmware via .zip file that they release. Can even be flashed with CWM or TWRP. I won't try to butter up the software, because well... It needs work. But, with CM support and constant updates from the OEM, this is a phone to consider. Hardware wise... Fantastic, tough to beat, and the camera is a beaut!
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Thinking about buying one of these??? Having always owned Nokias and hating the new Windows phone this seemed the natural replacement to my 808PV which I had stolen. So I bought one off ebay from Hong Kong, delivery was quick but came with Chinese firmware installed, including some chinese apps, so I flashed it with the latest firmware off navifirm I chose product code 059V779.
Flashing was easy using this great guide here >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668005
Rather than immediately putting on Google Play and changing the launcher I wanted to see what the Nokia/Windows Android thing was like. Having used it for a couple of days I can honestly say, other than the fact I liked the main homescreen scrolling downwards, fastlane was pretty rubbish and needless and the app layout was not great either. Having tried multiple different launchers my favourite by far is the S Launcher, great on battery too.
I tried to continue using it without Google Play, as I read the moment Google gets on your phone all its little ram hungry processes will drain the battery, and although this may be the case a bit, having google play is way better as many apps such as banking apps here in the UK are only available through the play store. Worth it even for the small increased battery drain.
For that use the guide here works great. >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-x2/general/tool-nokia-x2-tools-1-1-rus-en-rooting-t2846570
Seems a real pity Nokia never marketed these phones much in Europe as they stand up really well to similarly priced androids, anyway I'm really happy with mine and I'd recommend it to anyone, App compatibility seems to be about 95% and its an opportunity to own something a bit unique and quirky.
If anyones got any questions feel free to ask or PM me, not seen many UK Nokia X2 owners so more than happy to share my experiences/knowledge.
I posted my screenshots up here >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-x2/themes-apps/info-post-screenshots-t2826693/post58965952#
Nokia X2 is low-quality device. But it's has got low price. Nokia X2 for Third World countries only (include East Europe and Russia).
Also today you may get better device with same price. I didn't recommended by this device
I think a few of us did, but I'm returning mine. The quality and community just isn't there.
I have it. I am digging it. Hoping the community gets a little stronger but if not, I am still happy. FTR, I am rocking a Pixel 3 XL and a One Plus 6T as well.
I got it, loving it so far.
I have one, and am loving it as well. But the accessory community is depressing, especially with what seems available for the 1. Still, holding out hope yet....
Few days ago I went to 3 shop in the UK with intention of choosing between Pixel 3 XL, Note 9 and Mate 20Pro. But just one look at this beauty changed my mind. It has been years since I have seen android phone design I really liked. I hope that accesories will become available but it is not a deal braker for me. I ordered green case from razer as for the rest I do not care that much. I use magnetic holder for a car so nothing changes here. Bluetooth headset you can choose whatever you like. Actualy only case is phone specific acessory for me nowadays...
Coming from razer 1
This phone is amazing
Since razer 1, the advances are:
* Vibration motor actually works as you'd expect
* Camera, specifically with GCam is outstanding compared to Razer 1 (same Sony lenses as Pixel 3 - we have big potential.)
* Waterproof, bonus
* Screen slightly but evidently brighter
* Loudspeaker incall volume is louder/clearer
* Speakers are just as loud and true as Razer 1
* The overall speed enhanced with 845cpu, not that the Razer 1 was a slug, it was actually the fastest user experience until this Razer 2.
Honestly, all that marketed placebo they place on us with the big shot companies doesn't phase me... This phone is unprecedented. If you know tech and don't buy a phone based on the quality of its camera facility like most folk, then this is the connoisseurs choice.
Forget the development community, it didn't exist on Razer 1, not do I expect it to here. However it's not needed. The phone is already 99% stock without bloat.
The phone is G.O.A.T
dillalade said:
Coming from razer 1
This phone is amazing
Since razer 1, the advances are:
* Vibration motor actually works as you'd expect
* Camera, specifically with GCam is outstanding compared to Razer 1 (same Sony lenses as Pixel 3 - we have big potential.)
* Waterproof, bonus
* Screen slightly but evidently brighter
* Loudspeaker incall volume is louder/clearer
* Speakers are just as loud and true as Razer 1
* The overall speed enhanced with 845cpu, not that the Razer 1 was a slug, it was actually the fastest user experience until this Razer 2.
Honestly, all that marketed placebo they place on us with the big shot companies doesn't phase me... This phone is unprecedented. If you know tech and don't buy a phone based on the quality of its camera facility like most folk, then this is the connoisseurs choice.
Forget the development community, it didn't exist on Razer 1, not do I expect it to here. However it's not needed. The phone is already 99% stock without bloat.
The phone is G.O.A.T
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While I do not really expect huge custom ROM support, a reliable root method that doesn't trip safetynet (and thus still allows android pay) would be enough for me to buy it.
jaredtritsch said:
While I do not really expect huge custom ROM support, a reliable root method that doesn't trip safetynet (and thus still allows android pay) would be enough for me to buy it.
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And TWRP and Xposed of course
As for custom ROM stuff, it seems to be off to a good start. No need to be plugged in to get into fastboot anymore. It's actually surprisingly easy to get the button combo right (Vol- and Pwr). The bootloader even has an unlock menu option so the bootloader can even be unlocked without a PC involved! I've never seen that before lol. It bodes well. I did kernel dev for some of my previous devices so I'm really eager for those sources. Hopefully they keep up that end of the bargain.
I think I'm getting one, just want to see it and the OnePlus 6T in person before I decide. Any thoughts on how long it will take to get root? That's pretty important to me, but not having it right away isn't a problem.
Schizzlefuzz said:
I think I'm getting one, just want to see it and the OnePlus 6T in person before I decide. Any thoughts on how long it will take to get root? That's pretty important to me, but not having it right away isn't a problem.
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It becomes possible but difficult when kernel sources drop, and pretty much guaranteed when factory images become available, provided Razer didn't make any significant security enhancements to stock Android (unlikely though). Razer released the sources fairly soon after the first one released, but that's not a guarantee.
EDIT: come to think it's possible earlier if someone manages to capture an OTA with a kernel image. I didn't think of that while unboxing and just let it update
EDIT2: Managed to coax bootloader to switch back to old slot so I can take the OTA again. Or brick it. Will see I guess
One point against Razer for the bootloader still being a finicky, terrifying mess. At least it's easier to get into now...
EDIT3: OK capturing the OTA not going so well before the device is set up cause ADB is not available and its downloaded through a verified SSL connection. Will have to wait for the next one
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It becomes possible but difficult when kernel sources drop, and pretty much guaranteed when factory images become available, provided Razer didn't make any significant security enhancements to stock Android (unlikely though). Razer released the sources fairly soon after the first one released, but that's not a guarantee.
EDIT: come to think it's possible earlier if someone manages to capture an OTA with a kernel image. I didn't think of that while unboxing and just let it update
EDIT2: Managed to coax bootloader to switch back to old slot so I can take the OTA again. Or brick it. Will see I guess
One point against Razer for the bootloader still being a finicky, terrifying mess. At least it's easier to get into now...
EDIT3: OK capturing the OTA not going so well before the device is set up cause ADB is not available and its downloaded through a verified SSL connection. Will have to wait for the next one
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Well I ended up getting it and will have it tomorrow if you want me to do something to help out.
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As for custom ROM stuff, it seems to be off to a good start. No need to be plugged in to get into fastboot anymore. It's actually surprisingly easy to get the button combo right (Vol- and Pwr). The bootloader even has an unlock menu option so the bootloader can even be unlocked without a PC involved! I've never seen that before lol. It bodes well. I did kernel dev for some of my previous devices so I'm really eager for those sources. Hopefully they keep up that end of the bargain.
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Where is this being discussed? The forum here is barren and r/razerphone isn't showing much news either.
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Well I ended up getting it and will have it tomorrow if you want me to do something to help out.
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Unfortunately not much can be done while setting it up since the wizard's response to trying to get past the update screen is a firm "YOU SHALL NOT PASS". The ota link can potentially be captured only on a fully set up phone through ADB or a bug report. So we have to wait for the next OTA or a source/image drop from Razer if we want to root safely.
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Where is this being discussed? The forum here is barren and r/razerphone isn't showing much news either.
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I was just commenting on the ease of unlocking which is usually a prerequisite. I'm not saying there's already dev going on, just that the device seems like a good candidate
I've got one. I think it's great! Haven't unlocked the bootloader or anything yet. For me, the battery life has been very impressive. I don't have a ton of apps, nor do I game really, but I can easily get it to last 2 days with 4 hours of Screen On Time and several hours of phone calls with 20% battery left.
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I've got one. I think it's great! Haven't unlocked the bootloader or anything yet. For me, the battery life has been very impressive. I don't have a ton of apps, nor do I game really, but I can easily get it to last 2 days with 4 hours of Screen On Time and several hours of phone calls with 20% battery left.
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VZW??
deafmetal1 said:
VZW??
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Yes
translucentfocus said:
Yes
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So did you have to call to get the CDMA-less profile added?
jal3223 said:
So did you have to call to get the CDMA-less profile added?
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No, I did not. I originally tried using an older SIM that I had in my previous phone & the phone worked... but txts would not come through. When I finally relented and tried to use the BYOD wizard on verizonwireless.com--the website said I needed a new SIM for my phone.
So, I brought my Razer Phone 2 to the Verizon Store (this is a day or two after Verizon had certified the phone). The Verizon Rep, who was assisting me, brought out a handful of sim cards and tried scanning each one with a handheld scanner. It took several tries, but she found one that I'm assuming their system would accept and then I was good to go. Based on my observations, it looks like the phone requires a pretty-specific SIM card for Verizon's system to activate it.
Doubt this helps you though.
So I was planning on buying this phone.
But before I buy this phone I have a few questions to ask.
Will this phone get official LineageOS? if yes, how long does it take?
how was your experience with the phone so far? Was it good or bad, and why?
Will the price of this phone will drop in a few weeks?(for Malaysia set)
Thank you!
watatara.102 said:
So I was planning on buying this phone.
But before I buy this phone I have a few questions to ask.
Will this phone get official LineageOS? if yes, how long does it take?
how was your experience with the phone so far? Was it good or bad, and why?
Will the price of this phone will drop in a few weeks?(for Malaysia set)
Thank you!
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My opinions:
1. It's still in the earlier stage for this phone, so LineageOS maybe take time to be "tasted".
Need some patient here..?
2. Its bad for the software. The curve aren't smooth enough at the bottom(not sure yet is that from software or hardware).
Im also facing wifi tethering problem where its connected but no internet.
(Im starving for custom rom ?)
Hardware seems to be ok but im still confuse with gsmarena n cpu-z where gsmarena state the cpu clock are 2.2GHz but the cpu-z state its only 1.96GHz.
3. This year end sale would do, maybe. Discount only.
The price trend maybe still the same just like the M1 generation.
Just sharing my opinion..
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watatara.102 said:
So I was planning on buying this phone.
But before I buy this phone I have a few questions to ask.
Will this phone get official LineageOS? if yes, how long does it take?
how was your experience with the phone so far? Was it good or bad, and why?
Will the price of this phone will drop in a few weeks?(for Malaysia set)
Thank you!
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My opinions:
1. It's still in the earlier stage for this phone, so LineageOS maybe take time to be "tasted".
Need some patient here..?
2. Its bad for the software. The curve aren't smooth enough at the bottom(not sure yet is that from software or hardware).
Im also facing wifi tethering problem where its connected but no internet.
(Im starving for custom rom ?)
Hardware seems to be ok but im still confuse with gsmarena n cpu-z where gsmarena state the cpu clock are 2.2GHz but the cpu-z state its only 1.96GHz.
3. This year end sale would do, maybe. Discount only.
The price trend maybe still the same just like the M1 generation.
Just sharing my opinions..
1. I dont think you will get that Lineage OS anytime soon since the TWRP for this phone not even out yet.
2. If you had used Asus Phone before, their OS is pretty plain if you compared to the features rich Samsung or Huawei. The phone is very responsive and the screen looks great compared to my Samsung A7 2017. For the amount money you pay, you get the fastest mid tier processor, 6GB RAM and 64GB Storage, nothing to complain form me. The only problem I see now is the wordings being cut at both left and right edge at the bottom, and it seems I am unable to format any of my Sandisk Ultra 128GB MicroSD as portable storage (the card was used in my Samsung phone and it works well all the time) but It can be formatted as internal storage using adoptable storage. So far I had tried 3 Ultra cards all just refuse to work properly.
3. Direct D is selling at RM999 for the 6GB version, you should be able to find some selling on Lazada or Lelong slightly cheaper, maybe RM50 or so. They are doing promotion on the M1 at RM899 for the 6GB version but when they are selling at RM999 for the M1, I can find the M1 selling for like RM859 on lazada for the 6GB version. So unless you are getting the M1, yes you can find some with reduce price if you look hard enough, but for the M2, maybe just slight cheaper than the SRP for now.
Better not to buy, phone has lot of bugs Asus never gonna fix the issues. Better to switch mi or Nokia android one series with zero bugs.
1. Will this phone get official LineageOS? if yes, how long does it take?
Let me just clarify that I am happy with stock android because I bought this phone strictly for work. I am not even going to root. However, people who want to flash custom roms have to wait. The unencrypted source code was recently released. Hopefully, development can pick up pace and there will be custom roms soon.
2. How was your experience with the phone so far? Was it good or bad, and why?
It is good. For the price I paid, this phone is performing extremely well. I debloated it as soon as I got it out of the box and now the stock android coupled with good hardware is excellent. I have not noticed the notch issues, maybe because it is a recent purchase and it was fixed, or maybe because I am using Nova launcher and the notches at the bottom seem fine to me.
The phone is fast and responsive and the battery lasts forever. Call quality, network reception, wifi/bluetooth connectivity and external storage are all working fine for me. There are no complaints.
The camera seems sub-par. I am not an experienced photographer so maybe others could use it better. The photo quality is far from what I got from my older pixel phone but I don't mind because I only use it to scan documents, for which it works well.
3. Will the price of this phone will drop in a few weeks?(for Malaysia set)
Unlikely, seeing the pricing trend of the older max pro m1 in India
Thank you for the reply!
I think will buy the phone, but not now... maybe in a few more months or when Asus decide to put an discount
Oh and yesterday(1 jan 2019) price for Max Pro M2 got 5% off to RM819... so yeah I'm gonna wait
steprajjog said:
Better not to buy, phone has lot of bugs Asus never gonna fix the issues. Better to switch mi or Nokia android one series with zero bugs.
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That the reason why I asked about LineageOS(or any other custom roms). If Asus not gonna fix it, then maybe some developer will.
About switch to Mi or Nokia, I prefer to have pure android experience... I know Mi and Nokia have in Android One program but Mi don't have audio jack while Nokia too expensive for me.
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That the reason why I asked about LineageOS(or any other custom roms). If Asus not gonna fix it, then maybe some developer will.
About switch to Mi or Nokia, I prefer to have pure android experience... I know Mi and Nokia have in Android One program but Mi don't have audio jack while Nokia too expensive for me.
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Lol, he must have someone on the inside. Every oems fix the issues through updates. Max pro M1 received like 15 updates I think. So don't worry it will get fixed. This is the best mid ranger right now.
About custom roms: some members of the community were able to port twrp and also root the phone using magisk today. So the development will also Kick-start in a month or two.
Buy it if you like it. :good:
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About custom roms: some members of the community were able to port twrp and also root the phone using magisk today.
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Aweasome! Is there any forum post? can you link it to me? Thanks
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Aweasome! Is there any forum post? can you link it to me? Thanks
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It was posted in the telegram group.
Link: Zenfone Max Pro M2 | OFFICIAL
Zenfone Max Pro M2 - Official | Telegram Group
- Rules : Use /rules
- Channel: @asusmaxProM2
- Our Off-Topic Group: @zenfoneOT
- Our Photography Group: @zenfonePhotography
- Our Customization Group: @zenfoneCustomization
https://t.me/ZenfoneMaxProM2Official
The notch. Can you hide it? I am getting sick of the notch
maXDAmn said:
The notch. Can you hide it? I am getting sick of the notch
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Install apps from store then u can hide it..there many apps to hide the notch from playstore. try it.
You know what? I about to place an order on this weekend.
And now with Xiaomi announcement about their new phone, Redmi note 7.
I'm on dilemma!
watatara.102 said:
You know what? I about to place an order on this weekend.
And now with Xiaomi announcement about their new phone, Redmi note 7.
I'm on dilemma!
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Redmi 7 won't come for another 2 3 months even if they release it in India. Both phones will be similar and similarly priced. And don't get your head churned about the 48mp camera. It's just clever advertising.
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Redmi 7 won't come for another 2 3 months even if they release it in India. Both phones will be similar and similarly priced. And don't get your head churned about the 48mp camera. It's just clever advertising.
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I'm more interested into small waterdrop notch and usb type-c compare with max pro m2 notch and micro usb.
to my understanding that Redmi note 7 using Samsung sensor and its only 12 MP interpolate to 48 MP but not for Redmi note 7 Pro which is using Sony imx586 that actually real 48MP
Redmi note 7 Pro will release in China in Chinese New Year(probably) and after 1 month maybe we can see this phone for global set
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I'm more interested into small waterdrop notch and usb type-c compare with max pro m2 notch and micro usb.
to my understanding that Redmi note 7 using Samsung sensor and its only 12 MP interpolate to 48 MP but not for Redmi note 7 Pro which is using Sony imx586 that actually real 48MP
Redmi note 7 Pro will release in China in Chinese New Year(probably) and after 1 month maybe we can see this phone for global set
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Rn7 pro. Hmm. No idea when that will come to India.
Does it support MHL or not ?
My decision is greatly depending on this feature, please inform me.
Dont buy this hanging phone touch problem and hanging problem. We have to press 3 times to open particular app.
TechNcracked said:
Does it support MHL or not ?
My decision is greatly depending on this feature, please inform me.
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Anyone here to reply on this??
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what phone are you referring to? RN7 or max pro m2?
Hello. I've previously owned the Axon 7 Mini, which unfortunately was run over by a car. It was a nice phone and I especially liked the design and audio capabilities. Nowadays all smartphones look rather dull to me.
What would be the best/cheapest place to buy a new Axon 7? I've found a Chinese site that supposedly sells these. They don't offer the original box, though. Here's a link to the product: (can't seem to post a link but it's on Aliexpress) - thoughts? It's just over 200 dollars there, but a whooping 600 dollars at Amazon.
Questions: With these special ROMs that are circulating, will things like online banking work? I've heard of phones with special ROMs that have problems with certain apps because of security issues...
My understanding is that people can effectively run Android 10 on Axon 7 - that would be neat. If everything works, that is...
Thanks in advance.
I can't even post an image? Seriously?
As much as I like my Axon 7, things have moved on and I wouldn't buy another.
If you want to do online banking etc, just get something good stock and don't fiddle. Keep it as secure as possible and leave it locked.
I'm contemplating replacing my A7 as I need better battery life. Facebook is using it up too fast now. I did replace the battery and it works fine but I'm wanting something with 4000MAh or better.
I have a work Galaxy S10e and that is quite a good phone but again, that smaller battery is limiting.
If the US wasn't waging war on Huawei I would probably get a Mate or P 30 or similar but now without GAPPS I just won't go there.
Semi seriously looking at alternatives but thinking of going anti China this time. Samsung, LG, ASUS, not sure yet. HTC are pretty much dead and don't seem interested anymore.
I currently have a Huawei P Smart. I live in Norway btw, so I don't know what this supposed 'war' with Huawei is about.
I especially like the Axon 7 because of the speakers and audio capabilities.
I really would just like a recommendation for where to buy a brand new Axon 7.
Slim pickings finding unsold new stock out there. You will have to search around and not be fussy on colour.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_BSCz8T
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https://fs.tc/search?axon+7
Both authentic global A2017...I use a Chinese variant in the UK and have never had issues. Ali price is very good at £185. Still a cracking phone for the money but just be aware that it is now vintage HW and for a bit more you could probably get something better[emoji106]
Whatever I get after the Axon 7 will have stereo speakers so that cuts down options quite drastically but I certainly wouldn't get another Axon just to keep the speakers. I would mainly want to do it for a big battery but would welcome a bit more processing power, RAM and storage with newer OS as I like to be more up to date on security using Google pay, phone banking etc.
To be honest, the work S10e would be fine if it were slightly wider and have a bigger battery, so maybe I need a S10+?
Oh well, my decision has come. I stumbled upon a great deal on Huawei Mate 20 Pro today. New, unopened in box from store. Lovely phone.
Been doing the updates up to Android 10.
Don't care about rooting etc so no bootloader unlock is of zero concern. My Axon 7 has never been unlocked.
Edit: My Axon 7 was in a drawer. I kept it because of the excellent audio performance and it still worked perfectly well but my eldest daughter needed a phone. Having replaced the battery in it not too long ago it should have a pretty decent life left in it so she has bought it from me.
Good luck with your A7 everyone.
How about the ZTE Axon 20 5g? Sure it won't be released here but you can buy it anyway. It looks sweet and it's the same price as the 10 when it came out. If someone can shoehorn Lineage on it I'm going to buy it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.gsmarena.com/zte_axon_20_5g-ampp-10370.php