I think a few of us did, but I'm returning mine. The quality and community just isn't there.
I have it. I am digging it. Hoping the community gets a little stronger but if not, I am still happy. FTR, I am rocking a Pixel 3 XL and a One Plus 6T as well.
I got it, loving it so far.
I have one, and am loving it as well. But the accessory community is depressing, especially with what seems available for the 1. Still, holding out hope yet....
Few days ago I went to 3 shop in the UK with intention of choosing between Pixel 3 XL, Note 9 and Mate 20Pro. But just one look at this beauty changed my mind. It has been years since I have seen android phone design I really liked. I hope that accesories will become available but it is not a deal braker for me. I ordered green case from razer as for the rest I do not care that much. I use magnetic holder for a car so nothing changes here. Bluetooth headset you can choose whatever you like. Actualy only case is phone specific acessory for me nowadays...
Coming from razer 1
This phone is amazing
Since razer 1, the advances are:
* Vibration motor actually works as you'd expect
* Camera, specifically with GCam is outstanding compared to Razer 1 (same Sony lenses as Pixel 3 - we have big potential.)
* Waterproof, bonus
* Screen slightly but evidently brighter
* Loudspeaker incall volume is louder/clearer
* Speakers are just as loud and true as Razer 1
* The overall speed enhanced with 845cpu, not that the Razer 1 was a slug, it was actually the fastest user experience until this Razer 2.
Honestly, all that marketed placebo they place on us with the big shot companies doesn't phase me... This phone is unprecedented. If you know tech and don't buy a phone based on the quality of its camera facility like most folk, then this is the connoisseurs choice.
Forget the development community, it didn't exist on Razer 1, not do I expect it to here. However it's not needed. The phone is already 99% stock without bloat.
The phone is G.O.A.T
dillalade said:
Coming from razer 1
This phone is amazing
Since razer 1, the advances are:
* Vibration motor actually works as you'd expect
* Camera, specifically with GCam is outstanding compared to Razer 1 (same Sony lenses as Pixel 3 - we have big potential.)
* Waterproof, bonus
* Screen slightly but evidently brighter
* Loudspeaker incall volume is louder/clearer
* Speakers are just as loud and true as Razer 1
* The overall speed enhanced with 845cpu, not that the Razer 1 was a slug, it was actually the fastest user experience until this Razer 2.
Honestly, all that marketed placebo they place on us with the big shot companies doesn't phase me... This phone is unprecedented. If you know tech and don't buy a phone based on the quality of its camera facility like most folk, then this is the connoisseurs choice.
Forget the development community, it didn't exist on Razer 1, not do I expect it to here. However it's not needed. The phone is already 99% stock without bloat.
The phone is G.O.A.T
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While I do not really expect huge custom ROM support, a reliable root method that doesn't trip safetynet (and thus still allows android pay) would be enough for me to buy it.
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While I do not really expect huge custom ROM support, a reliable root method that doesn't trip safetynet (and thus still allows android pay) would be enough for me to buy it.
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And TWRP and Xposed of course
As for custom ROM stuff, it seems to be off to a good start. No need to be plugged in to get into fastboot anymore. It's actually surprisingly easy to get the button combo right (Vol- and Pwr). The bootloader even has an unlock menu option so the bootloader can even be unlocked without a PC involved! I've never seen that before lol. It bodes well. I did kernel dev for some of my previous devices so I'm really eager for those sources. Hopefully they keep up that end of the bargain.
I think I'm getting one, just want to see it and the OnePlus 6T in person before I decide. Any thoughts on how long it will take to get root? That's pretty important to me, but not having it right away isn't a problem.
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I think I'm getting one, just want to see it and the OnePlus 6T in person before I decide. Any thoughts on how long it will take to get root? That's pretty important to me, but not having it right away isn't a problem.
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It becomes possible but difficult when kernel sources drop, and pretty much guaranteed when factory images become available, provided Razer didn't make any significant security enhancements to stock Android (unlikely though). Razer released the sources fairly soon after the first one released, but that's not a guarantee.
EDIT: come to think it's possible earlier if someone manages to capture an OTA with a kernel image. I didn't think of that while unboxing and just let it update
EDIT2: Managed to coax bootloader to switch back to old slot so I can take the OTA again. Or brick it. Will see I guess
One point against Razer for the bootloader still being a finicky, terrifying mess. At least it's easier to get into now...
EDIT3: OK capturing the OTA not going so well before the device is set up cause ADB is not available and its downloaded through a verified SSL connection. Will have to wait for the next one
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It becomes possible but difficult when kernel sources drop, and pretty much guaranteed when factory images become available, provided Razer didn't make any significant security enhancements to stock Android (unlikely though). Razer released the sources fairly soon after the first one released, but that's not a guarantee.
EDIT: come to think it's possible earlier if someone manages to capture an OTA with a kernel image. I didn't think of that while unboxing and just let it update
EDIT2: Managed to coax bootloader to switch back to old slot so I can take the OTA again. Or brick it. Will see I guess
One point against Razer for the bootloader still being a finicky, terrifying mess. At least it's easier to get into now...
EDIT3: OK capturing the OTA not going so well before the device is set up cause ADB is not available and its downloaded through a verified SSL connection. Will have to wait for the next one
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Well I ended up getting it and will have it tomorrow if you want me to do something to help out.
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As for custom ROM stuff, it seems to be off to a good start. No need to be plugged in to get into fastboot anymore. It's actually surprisingly easy to get the button combo right (Vol- and Pwr). The bootloader even has an unlock menu option so the bootloader can even be unlocked without a PC involved! I've never seen that before lol. It bodes well. I did kernel dev for some of my previous devices so I'm really eager for those sources. Hopefully they keep up that end of the bargain.
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Where is this being discussed? The forum here is barren and r/razerphone isn't showing much news either.
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Well I ended up getting it and will have it tomorrow if you want me to do something to help out.
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Unfortunately not much can be done while setting it up since the wizard's response to trying to get past the update screen is a firm "YOU SHALL NOT PASS". The ota link can potentially be captured only on a fully set up phone through ADB or a bug report. So we have to wait for the next OTA or a source/image drop from Razer if we want to root safely.
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Where is this being discussed? The forum here is barren and r/razerphone isn't showing much news either.
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I was just commenting on the ease of unlocking which is usually a prerequisite. I'm not saying there's already dev going on, just that the device seems like a good candidate
I've got one. I think it's great! Haven't unlocked the bootloader or anything yet. For me, the battery life has been very impressive. I don't have a ton of apps, nor do I game really, but I can easily get it to last 2 days with 4 hours of Screen On Time and several hours of phone calls with 20% battery left.
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I've got one. I think it's great! Haven't unlocked the bootloader or anything yet. For me, the battery life has been very impressive. I don't have a ton of apps, nor do I game really, but I can easily get it to last 2 days with 4 hours of Screen On Time and several hours of phone calls with 20% battery left.
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VZW??
deafmetal1 said:
VZW??
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Yes
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Yes
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So did you have to call to get the CDMA-less profile added?
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So did you have to call to get the CDMA-less profile added?
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No, I did not. I originally tried using an older SIM that I had in my previous phone & the phone worked... but txts would not come through. When I finally relented and tried to use the BYOD wizard on verizonwireless.com--the website said I needed a new SIM for my phone.
So, I brought my Razer Phone 2 to the Verizon Store (this is a day or two after Verizon had certified the phone). The Verizon Rep, who was assisting me, brought out a handful of sim cards and tried scanning each one with a handheld scanner. It took several tries, but she found one that I'm assuming their system would accept and then I was good to go. Based on my observations, it looks like the phone requires a pretty-specific SIM card for Verizon's system to activate it.
Doubt this helps you though.
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I'm wondering how many XDA folks have ordered the new Flame reference phone? I was able to check it a few weeks ago and have to say its an even more polished device then the ZTE Open and Keon. I'm looking forward to getting one soon.
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I'm wondering how many XDA folks have ordered the new Flame reference phone? I was able to check it a few weeks ago and have to say its an even more polished device then the ZTE Open and Keon. I'm looking forward to getting one soon.
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If they had a "Flame Mini" with a maximum 3.5" screen and physical shutter button, I'd bite.
The price and specs are to far apart for me to buy, that price I can buy an octa core android phone, $100 max on a dual core even $100 is to much, but willing to let slide. I simply can't justify paying $170 for a dual core when I know for a fact I can get an 8 core for less. I am out on the flame.
I've been thinking about it, especially since my Nexus One is about to bite the metaphorical dust, but I'm not sure. I've grown quite accustomed to Android over the past couple of years, and though I know that rationally, my Nexus 7 can still run ParanoidAndroid to satisfy that part of me, it's quite the jump.
So, possibly. Once my N1 decides it's time to die, anyhow. Should be anytime within the next couple of weeks.
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I'm wondering how many XDA folks have ordered the new [...] Flame reference phone[/URL]? I was able to check it a few weeks ago and have to say its an even more polished device then the ZTE Open and Keon. I'm looking forward to getting one soon.
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Hi,
I got my flame last friday. German customs and DHL wanted 52 Euro before they handed the device over to me. So in total I paid now around 170 Euro.
Putting this aside, after 3 days of extensive usage, I can tell following things:
It comes with firefox os 1.3.0.0-prelelease (git commit: 2014-06-16 5c43d012)
Pro:
- Dual Sim capabilities are working nearly perfectly, having my private sim as first one using internet and in/outgoing calls and my buisness sim put into the second slot for receiving calls. Doing a call over the second sim requires to get into settings menu and reassign the outgoing calls to second sim, which is a little inconvenient.
- Hardware seems very well built and due to the weight, the device feels very valueable.
- I like the design
- Firefox OS boots very fast and runs then without any glitches or freezes, it feels responsible like android device with 2.2 ghz processor.
- Applications start instantly, almost no waiting.
- Chatting using various protocols (Whatsapp, jabber, irc) works quite well using apps from marketplace.
- Surfing the web works perfect, especially the scrolling feels so natrual, no noticable delay.
Neutral:
- Battery lasting just about 15-16 hours under normal load (Chatting from time to time, browsing and about 30 minutes of youtube videos), but as I'm usually having a powerpack or usb available wherever I go, this is no real showstopper for me.
Cons:
- The camera. Pictures just look aweful, in case you are not lighten your object with a bulb as powerful as the sun. Pictures with enabled flash are even worse.
- It's hard to search for information, as google always thinks you mean "firefox" instead of "firefox os"
I'll now dig into app development and start "programming" or better scripting some stuff.
kind regards,
--peter;
Mine arrived in Perth, Western Australia on Friday also but I was away at work and so only picked it up on Monday.
Thanks for the brief review, I too like the heft and feel of mine. Not tested the cameras yet ...
The screen cover feels like glass ... I sure hope it is because I haven't been able to find a protective cover for it yet.
I'm trying to "educate" google by attaching FxOS to the word Firefox whenever I search and it seems to help. FxOS by itself doesn't show much (yet!) but the personal "filter bubble" should kick in soon. Some people fear the "Google Filter Bubble" but it is useful in cases like this.
xypiie said:
Hi,
- It's hard to search for information, as google always thinks you mean "firefox" instead of "firefox os"
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Those who got their Flame this week, did you unpack it carefully enough to keep the Recovery Cable?
Mine was not inside the box but just loose in the bubble wrap bag. No sign yet of the companion "Emergency Download Tool" software. I hope it's not too far away because I'd like to backup the factory rom the try FxOS 2, help with debugging etc. which of course will increase of probability of temporary "brick" creation.
I found wifi certificates for what seems like our phone where it's described as:-
Company TCT Mobile Ltd.
Product Foxfone One
Model Number Flame
Anyone know whether it's a close enough match to another model in the Alcatel One Touch range to buy covers and screen protectors for it?
Actually if you are a developer and want to port your apps to Firefox OS there is a program that lets you get a Flame for free in Mozilla Hacks hacks(dot)mozilla(dot)org/2014/05/build-your-next-app-with-a-flame/
Yet you have to meet some requirements
Instructions for using Emergency download mode, a link to the Thundersoft Emergency Download Tool software, and instructions for updating the rom, all the way to the still unstable version 2.1 nightly builds.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame
Excellent support from Mozilla and Thundersoft, this phone could become a classic, if this continues.
Hi guys. So I'm considering buying a Wileyfox Storm because of the price/value ratio.
There's not much information that can be found about the phone regarding it's OTG support on the internet. Some comparison sites imply NOT, and other sites have something cryptic like USB OTG (TBC). LIKE WHAT?! For that matter, there's not that much info and support for the device at all, nevermind any nongeneric cases or covers.
Anyway since I couldn't find a definite answer, I wanted to ask the actual owners of the Storm if their device supports OTG if they've ever tried it. And if you haven't ever tried testing it, would you mind doing so?
Thanks guys!
I installed USB OTG Checker which showed my Storm has the USB OTG API. However I can't test for USB OTG Kernel or Driver Signal as I don't have a USB OTG cable or adapter at the moment. Hoping to borrow one or buy one in the next few days. Will let you know the outcome.
Regards.
Brian
I received my £0.99 OTG USB adaptor in the post from an eBay seller today and it works. With ES File Explorer or Solid Explorer it shows the contents of my memory stick and I can read text files, etc.
So the answer to your question is yes the Storm does support OTG.
Brian
Battery and Gaming Performance
Brianrh said:
I received my £0.99 OTG USB adaptor in the post from an eBay seller today and it works. With ES File Explorer or Solid Explorer it shows the contents of my memory stick and I can read text files, etc.
So the answer to your question is yes the Storm does support OTG.
Brian
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Hi Brian,
That's fantastic! I really can't thank you enough for taking the effort of experimenting the OTG feature on the Storm :good:.
If you don't mind I'd also like to know your thoughts on the device and if you'd recommend it. From what I've understood is that the battery is probably the biggest disadvantage in the phone, but how ''bad'' is it actually? How often do you have to charge your phone under a certain usage?
And also I don't know if you use it for gaming, but if you have done so, does it perform decently?
Thanks mate!
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Hi Brian,
That's fantastic! I really can't thank you enough for taking the effort of experimenting the OTG feature on the Storm :good:.
If you don't mind I'd also like to know your thoughts on the device and if you'd recommend it. From what I've understood is that the battery is probably the biggest disadvantage in the phone, but how ''bad'' is it actually? How often do you have to charge your phone under a certain usage?
And also I don't know if you use it for gaming, but if you have done so, does it perform decently?
Thanks mate!
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I've had my Storm since Christmas and I am generally pleased with it these days. The last OTA update made a big difference to the reliable operation of mine after a bit of a wobbly start but I have read that others have had a few hardware problems along the way. I don't know if it is still the case but I haven't seen any new complaints recently. If you are going to buy SIM free I would play safe and get one from somewhere like Amazon who have good returns policy if you do happen to get a "lemon".
My previous phone was a gen 1 Moto G running Cyanogenmod and battery life with my Storm is equally good but then I am a very light user and I can get about 2 days out of a full charge. However if I run Google Maps for my daily commute the battery goes down quite quickly which I suppose is due to that big display being on all the time but probably no worse than my Moto G was. The Storm is quite responsive but I've never used it for gaming so you wll have to ask others about this on this forum. The Cyanogen Mod forum is also worth reading through:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/forum/1212-wileyfox-storm-kipper/
I'm very pleased with mine for what I need it to do but like others are saying we do need a decent case for it.
Hope this helps.
Brian
Brianrh said:
I've had my Storm since Christmas and I am generally pleased with it these days. The last OTA update made a big difference to the reliable operation of mine after a bit of a wobbly start but I have read that others have had a few hardware problems along the way. I don't know if it is still the case but I haven't seen any new complaints recently. If you are going to buy SIM free I would play safe and get one from somewhere like Amazon who have good returns policy if you do happen to get a "lemon".
My previous phone was a gen 1 Moto G running Cyanogenmod and battery life with my Storm is equally good but then I am a very light user and I can get about 2 days out of a full charge. However if I run Google Maps for my daily commute the battery goes down quite quickly which I suppose is due to that big display being on all the time but probably no worse than my Moto G was. The Storm is quite responsive but I've never used it for gaming so you wll have to ask others about this on this forum. The Cyanogen Mod forum is also worth reading through:
I'm very pleased with mine for what I need it to do but like others are saying we do need a decent case for it.
Hope this helps.
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That was pretty helpful thanks. I'm stuck in a dilemma now. It's either going to be the Storm or the OnePlus X (roughly the same price).
The OP X does rock the more powerful Snapdragon 801, however the bigger screen, front facing camera flash and 32 GB of internal storage on the Storm seem to be dragging me towards it immensely.
Also the OP X has loads of support and threads going for it while the Storm seems to be nearly dead on the internet.
Which would you honestly get if you were phoneless and had to choose one of the two?
It is early days for the Storm but Wileyfox the company seem to be more intent on pushing the brand and new sales rather than nurtering and building up a strong reputation. In theory Wileyfox being UK based should have the better customer service but many people haven't found this.
The OP X has as you say a strong following and seems a better phone than it's earlier models with a more straight forward means of purchasing it these days. I like Cyanogen having used it for many years on several mobiles but I don't know much about Oxygen OS on the OP X? OP phones have been on the market longer, hence have sold more phones and consequently there will be more information on the internet. I think they have had their share of hardware problems in the past but perhaps this is the risk you take with good value mobiles like these.
One of the things at the top of my list was what to do in the event of a hardware problem and I thought with a few retails here in the UK and Amazon stocking the Storm it might be a safer bet and I have read on here about people returning their phones to Amazon at least once. When I bought my Storm at Christmas I was also looking at the LG G3 (i think it was that one) which was on special offer but went for the Storm mainly from the reviews I'd read. Although I am perfectly happy with the Storm reading other posts on here makes me wonder at the longevity of the Storm but this is probably the case with the OP X too. Only time will tell.
I wouldn't want to advise on which one to choose but perhaps make a list comparing the things important to you and then follow your heart. At least that way if you are unfortunate enough to have problems you will know that you made the best decision at the time.
Good luck.
Brian
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum, currently waiting for delivery (arrives on sunday).
Is there anything I should know? Besides rooting, removing bloatware (which seems to plague this phone like Asus pcs), and general android stuff.
Anything about pumping up the audio? Also, any comments on how's Asus doing as a phone manufacturer, I'm using a motherboard and monitor from their products.
Hope we get along :fingers-crossed:
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Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum, currently waiting for delivery (arrives on sunday).
Is there anything I should know? Besides rooting, removing bloatware (which seems to plague this phone like Asus pcs), and general android stuff.
Anything about pumping up the audio? Also, any comments on how's Asus doing as a phone manufacturer, I'm using a motherboard and monitor from their products.
Hope we get along :fingers-crossed:
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I'd also love to know this! i'm getting a ZF2 in a week or two
I haven't re-rooted after the last couple of updates as I no longer use anything that requires root. I haven't bothered removing anything but just turned what I didn't want off instead. I went with a different launcher (Nova Pro) and different SMS and email clients that those Asus put on the phone.
Still one of the best phones I have ever used.
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I haven't re-rooted after the last couple of updates as I no longer use anything that requires root. I haven't bothered removing anything but just turned what I didn't want off instead. I went with a different launcher (Nova Pro) and different SMS and email clients that those Asus put on the phone.
Still one of the best phones I have ever used.
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I'm curious to use it as is for a couple of days and then update it, so I hope it isn't updated.
But it's good to hear Asus tackled those problems!
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I'm curious to use it as is for a couple of days and then update it, so I hope it isn't updated.
But it's good to hear Asus tackled those problems!
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I love mine. Best phone I've owned hands down.
Asus has done a great job and made its name in budget market, the phone looks good and doesn't even feel like a budget one
Performance is excellent and its not a slouch like lg or samsung devices the only phones beat this device is nexus and flagships costing double or even triple than itself .
Camera is not to be expected with exceptional quality it will deliver moderate to good enough pictures but in outdoor and poor in low light.
Asus has heavily bloated it (30 apps) but every app is inovative and to meet different tastes of different people i dont use their apps like mirror, screen mirroring / screen cast on desktop. But many people do use it, disable only after you feel it is useless and a bloat.
Try out splendid to customize the display and saturation(this is one hell of a feature and my favourite one also)
Its the best phone i have ever owned or used(never got the chance to try hands on nexus 6p)and i hate samsung so don't hope me to try hands on it even
This is a really compelling phone by blackberry. Nice aesthetics and features, even though the design makes it practically an idol 4, but I think the DTEK50 will be the phone to consider. What I would like to know, unlike the Priv, will it be possible to break through the bootloader and root this device?
Both good and bad to see Blackberry taking another approach
I don't think it will be rootable...
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I don't think it will be rootable...
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Yup. Since security is the whole point of the BlackBerry phones, I'm guessing no.
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Yup. Since security is the whole point of the BlackBerry phones, I'm guessing no.
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It will be rootable as it's literally a clone of the Idol 4 just with blackberry security features, but if you root the phone you defeat the purpose of having blackberry security. They changed the name from Idol 4 to DTEK50 and added some added security software. That's about it. When the Idol 4 hits the market and it's been rooted just go to that thread to find instructions to root this phone. Do so at your own risk.
Happy to see blackberry take another stab at it. Just have to see if it hits a better chord with people this time.
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It will be rootable as it's literally a clone of the Idol 4 just with blackberry security features, but if you root the phone you defeat the purpose of having blackberry security. They changed the name from Idol 4 to DTEK50 and added some added security software. That's about it. When the Idol 4 hits the market and it's been rooted just go to that thread to find instructions to root this phone. Do so at your own risk.
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So it'll be able to be rooted the same way? Same firmware and everything? I think that bootloader will be tough though.
probably rootable but hard to achieve because blackberry has been boasting its security features on this phone..
According to a BBC news article, this phone will have a modified chipset inside and hardware signing capabilities to eliminate the ability of the user to install custom Roms to eliminate the risk. The chances of root, let alone a custom rom and recovery for this device is so small that I wouldn't even say 1%
Edit - direct quote "But Blackberry says the phone has unique internal hardware, with its chips protected by cryptographic keys to prevent tampering and thwart hackers"
no to root
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It will be rootable as it's literally a clone of the Idol 4 just with blackberry security features, but if you root the phone you defeat the purpose of having blackberry security. They changed the name from Idol 4 to DTEK50 and added some added security software. That's about it. When the Idol 4 hits the market and it's been rooted just go to that thread to find instructions to root this phone. Do so at your own risk.
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Not the blackberry version. It's got hardware encryption to prevent tampering.
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Not the blackberry version. It's got hardware encryption to prevent tampering.
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You probably meant software encryption. You don't encrypt hardware. Most likely there will be some level of encryption, but if it has a subforum here on XDA, bet it'll be rooted before a month is out after it's releasee.
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You probably meant software encryption. You don't encrypt hardware. Most likely there will be some level of encryption, but if it has a subforum here on XDA, bet it'll be rooted before a month is out after it's releasee.
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Software encryption for sure. I don't see the confidence in gaining root though, as far as I see the priv is still without root
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Software encryption for sure. I don't see the confidence in gaining root though, as far as I see the priv is still without root
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I wouldn't root it just because I'd love Blackberry security on my phone, but you know someone will do it cause they can.
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I wouldn't root it just because I'd love Blackberry security on my phone, but you know someone will do it cause they can.
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I love how the priv looks and I love blackberry keyboards but no root = no purchase.
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I wouldn't root it just because I'd love Blackberry security on my phone, but you know someone will do it cause they can.
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I love how the priv looks and blackberry make great keyboards, but without root I'm not interested.
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I love how the priv looks and I love blackberry keyboards but no root = no purchase.
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I love how the priv looks and blackberry make great keyboards, but without root I'm not interested.
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Blackberry phones aren't rooted because you negate any encryption on the phone and any security features that are enabled. If you aren't a security and business minded individual you shouldn't purchase a blackberry product.
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Blackberry phones aren't rooted because you negate any encryption on the phone and any security features that are enabled. If you aren't a security and business minded individual you shouldn't purchase a blackberry product.
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That is quite certainly true, I never said anything about the security, nor of its benefits and cons, I complimented it's good looks and was sad that the option wasn't made in some form for those us that would like root.
I know of atleast one company that will allow bootloader unlocks through request only so the regular person doesn't break the security, but the option for those of us that want root is always one that should have more consideration.
Edit; As a tech with an old school blackberry for work, having one on android I could root with the knowledge to circumvent most of the consequences would be pretty much a dream, I've used blackberrys in some form since my adolescent
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That is quite certainly true, I never said anything about the security, nor of its benefits and cons, I complimented it's good looks and was sad that the option wasn't made in some form for those us that would like root.
I know of atleast one company that will allow bootloader unlocks through request only so the regular person doesn't break the security, but the option for those of us that want root is always one that should have more consideration.
Edit; As a tech with an old school blackberry for work, having one on android I could root with the knowledge to circumvent most of the consequences would be pretty much a dream, I've used blackberrys in some form since my adolescent
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I used to love Blackberry. I've had many myself also. My fav was the Torch series they released. That thing lasted me through the USMC looking like it got blown up, but still worked great and when it got stolen whoever took it wouldn't get anything. I'm not sure Blackberry does this, but I hope they don't make certain security features break the phone if you manage to circumvent them in some way.
kingoftheafro said:
I used to love Blackberry. I've had many myself also. My fav was the Torch series they released. That thing lasted me through the USMC looking like it got blown up, but still worked great and when it got stolen whoever took it wouldn't get anything. I'm not sure Blackberry does this, but I hope they don't make certain security features break the phone if you manage to circumvent them in some way.
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I think if you want to root a blackberry device, you should be willing and know that certain security features won't work. It's naive to think that you could
"Unique ID, verified boot, a hardened kernel, full disk encryption, the promise of zero-day patching and monthly security updates" - the register
Blackberry also released a pdf documenting security features that's available online, I think for the �£275 price tag it'll be a good phone, and for the security conscious and business guy it's a good deal, it's good for the company to scale back on the hardware side but I'll miss the priv for sure. I doubt I'll be heading back to blackberry anytime soon but it's been interesting to watch their strategy play out.
Edit: update,
The DTEK50 takes its name from the DTEK application installed, it used only notify but it's been fleshed into a permissions manager, running on marshmallow.
Edit 2:.Specifications:..
Octocore Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 system-on-chip (four at 1.5GHz and four at 1.2GHz).
3GB RAM, 16GB flash, and a slot for microSD cards up to 2TB.
5.2 inch full-HD 1080-by-1920-pixel display, at 424 PPI.
13MP f2.0 main camera and 8MP front camera with flash.
Stereo front facing speakers.
2610mAH battery with QuickCharge 2.0
u0aol said:
"Unique ID, verified boot, a hardened kernel, full disk encryption, the promise of zero-day patching and monthly security updates" - the register
Blackberry also released a pdf documenting security features that's available online, I think for the �£275 price tag it'll be a good phone, and for the security conscious and business guy it's a good deal, it's good for the company to scale back on the hardware side but I'll miss the priv for sure. I doubt I'll be heading back to blackberry anytime soon but it's been interesting to watch their strategy play out.
Edit: update,
The DTEK50 takes its name from the DTEK application installed, it used only notify but it's been fleshed into a permissions manager, running on marshmallow.
Edit 2:.Specifications:..
Octocore Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 system-on-chip (four at 1.5GHz and four at 1.2GHz).
3GB RAM, 16GB flash, and a slot for microSD cards up to 2TB.
5.2 inch full-HD 1080-by-1920-pixel display, at 424 PPI.
13MP f2.0 main camera and 8MP front camera with flash.
Stereo front facing speakers.
2610mAH battery with QuickCharge 2.0
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The specs are that of the Idol 4 which is exclusive to cricket. None of the hardware is changed. It's all in the software. Also it seems for blackberry security the phone is apparently worth 80 bucks more than the standard idol 4 which is 200 bucks. Don't really see how that computes, but oklydokly. Also I don't think you understood my last post. I'm talking about blackberry adding security features built in that once turned off breaks the phone as in the phone stops working. All phone have limited software security that when broken the security doesn't work. That's obvious.
Particularly in terms of front & back camera(s) performances ?
Also:
- What improvements would you like to see in OxygenOS ?
Cameras, screen and battery are the only improvements that can be had, perhaps audio.
Every other box has been ticked.
Storage
Size
Performance
Ram
Aesthetics
Are all perfect
Cameras, battery and audio are also really top notch so I wouldn't expect anything ground breaking.
We're approaching a stage where things can't progress at the rate they once did.
For me I would only make the battery larger but that's just nitpicking.
(See screenshot)
Waterproofing is here as Is superb wireless charging and reverse charging.
In regards to the OS id like to see no features removed, only made optional.
Screen off animations, OS size changes, static icon alterations like the status bar clock and signal icons, they should be fully themeable, which you can see from the screen shot I've already changed on mine.
I don't think major, but a progression... Further aod features, battery improvements, etc....
I think that Samsung have moved the game on by producing a folding handset, and that everybody else will eventually need to move into that space if they want to keep selling phones.
Sure it's still going through some teething issues (and the app market hasn't caught up yet), and I can't imagine that the 9 Pro will be folding, but I'd expect that the 10 Pro or 11 Pro will be.
Philip said:
I think that Samsung have moved the game on by producing a folding handset, and that everybody else will eventually need to move into that space if they want to keep selling phones.
Sure it's still going through some teething issues (and the app market hasn't caught up yet), and I can't imagine that the 9 Pro will be folding, but I'd expect that the 10 Pro or 11 Pro will be.
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I wouldn't buy a folding phone again.
The startac was the last good folding phone.
Folds are a phase, an expensive one.
dladz said:
Folds are a phase, an expensive one.
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Folding screens are a whole different ballgame to the antediluvian technology that was the Startac.
Who wouldn't want a phone that folds down to half (or less) of its normal use size when you put it in your pocket, especially as the screens get thinner and lighter, and the software evolves to make use of the form factor.
The technology still has a little way to go, but in the not-too-distant future all handsets will have foldable screens.
Philip said:
Folding screens are a whole different ballgame to the antediluvian technology that was the Startac.
Who wouldn't want a phone that folds down to half (or less) of its normal use size when you put it in your pocket, especially as the screens get thinner and lighter, and the software evolves to make use of the form factor.
The technology still has a little way to go, but in the not-too-distant future all handsets will have foldable screens.
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No dude, I know.
Point I'm trying to make is, every person who had an ounce of taste had a startac.
Only people who'll buy a folding device are people who don't know their phones or someone who blindly buys the latest gadgets.
The processors in those phones are pants as are the batteries, look at the Motorola flip?
The technology is a non starter.
I'll never change my mind on that, if they sell as much as the startac did then I'll admit I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
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I am changing the subject on you. I should have created a new thread, but I am not sure if you would see it in that case.
After waiting a month, I still haven't received my OnePlus 8 Pro. Do *NOT* ever buy anything from Bludiode.com. It is a scam. These guys claim Covid-19 is delaying the clearance of my payment. A virus can slow down electronic payment for a month?! I already called my credit card company to dispute it and got my money back. Since they do charge a 2 . 9% service charge to use a credit card, I assume those who do a bank transfer from their checking account to avoid this charge are their real victims. Anyway, I digress.
Since I don't have a OnePlus 8 Pro in my hand yet, I have a new concern before I buy it again. Does it have a boot-up (NOT lockscreen) password? I just learned that through a custom recovery like TWRP, one can always delete the locksettings.db and/or other similar files to erase the lockscreen password. Further, since TWRP has a built-in file manager, even if an attacker doesn't reboot to system, he can simply browse in TWRP.
TWRP doesn't officially support a password, and I can understand why because it's futile. An attacker can simply flash a fresh TWRP through download mode anyway to wipe out the existing password.
The only way to prevent an attacker from stealing my private info is to
1. encrypt the internal memory, or
2. unroot the phone and lock the bootloader so that a custom recovery cannot be installed, or
3. the device has a boot-up password.
Neither #1 or 2 would work for me. That leaves only #3.
Can you please confirm if OnePlus 8 Pro supports boot-up password?
By the way, if the upcoming upgrades in the 9 Pro would be marginal, I may just wait till the 9 Pro comes out and then buy the 8 Pro on the cheap. What time of the year does OnePlus usually release a new phone?
Thank you
luckysoul777 said:
I am changing the subject on you. I should have created a new thread, but I am not sure if you would see it in that case.
After waiting a month, I still haven't received my OnePlus 8 Pro. Do *NOT* ever buy anything from Bludiode.com. It is a scam. These guys claim Covid-19 is delaying the clearance of my payment. A virus can slow down electronic payment for a month?! I already called my credit card company to dispute it and got my money back. Since they do charge a 2 . 9% service charge to use a credit card, I assume those who do a bank transfer from their checking account to avoid this charge are their real victims. Anyway, I digress.
Since I don't have a OnePlus 8 Pro in my hand yet, I have a new concern before I buy it again. Does it have a boot-up (NOT lockscreen) password? I just learned that through a custom recovery like TWRP, one can always delete the locksettings.db and/or other similar files to erase the lockscreen password. Further, since TWRP has a built-in file manager, even if an attacker doesn't reboot to system, he can simply browse in TWRP.
TWRP doesn't officially support a password, and I can understand why because it's futile. An attacker can simply flash a fresh TWRP through download mode anyway to wipe out the existing password.
The only way to prevent an attacker from stealing my private info is to
1. encrypt the internal memory, or
2. unroot the phone and lock the bootloader so that a custom recovery cannot be installed, or
3. the device has a boot-up password.
Neither #1 or 2 would work for me. That leaves only #3.
Can you please confirm if OnePlus 8 Pro supports boot-up password?
By the way, if the upcoming upgrades in the 9 Pro would be marginal, I may just wait till the 9 Pro comes out and then buy the 8 Pro on the cheap. What time of the year does OnePlus usually release a new phone?
Thank you
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You'd need the password to obtain data access to that part of the system, as in it has to decrypt.
They just released the 8T so in six months the 9 will be out.
That sucks about that place.
Did you get your money back??
after owning 4 op phones in between other flagships from other companies just for the love of op this op8 pro will be the last i buy from op. even cyanogen dint have this kinda bugs back in the day lol. if this is what they call a stable os moving forward. they are now more concerned about pushing mid range phones to get a slice of the market share that what people came to love about them like software smoothness is just purely ****. like the word **** is being nice at this point. i hope things change moving forward but this isnt going well for them at all