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Dear Friends,
I live in the US, using AT&T US, but would like to have the option to move to T-Mobile US or perhaps even Verizon.
Question is, what is the best S7 Edge variant for me to get, if I have the option to buy 935F and 935FD (I believe this EXACTLY the same as 935F except Dual-SIM or it's got extra bands I could use in the US?)
Here are my important requirements that would help you make a recommendation:
1. Root Support (I guess with little trouble as possible, I am seeing nightmares on people finally being able to root the US variants with the Engineering bootloader - Over heating, slowness, data issues, bricks, etc)
2. Xposed
3. TWRP for Nandroids, if possible?
4. Performance, Battery life
5. Samsung Pay (on a rooted device) if possible in the US?
6. Warranty - These are expensive devices, is it impossible to get Samsung support in the US with the 935F and 935FD model?
Thank you for your advice, help in advance, looking to make the decision in the next day or two. Thanks!
935F and 935FD are the exact same, except the FD has the dual sim - no other difference (4).
That being said you will want to make sure you know what carrier you are going to end up with before purchasing. Verizon's CDMA network is not supported by the international variants.
In terms of your important requirements - you cannot use Samsung Pay on a rooted device (since root trips KNOX). It's Samsung Pay or rooted phone, your choice (1,2,3,5). International devices don't get US warranty (6).
My suggestion is to go for the cheaper one. I bought an FD gold model on Amazon for $625 (and free 1-day shipping), which was about $50+ less than the F model. I could have gone on ebay and saved another $30 or bought a used phone, but not a bad price.
shyam09 said:
935F and 935FD are the exact same, except the FD has the dual sim - no other difference (4).
That being said you will want to make sure you know what carrier you are going to end up with before purchasing. Verizon's CDMA network is not supported by the international variants.
In terms of your important requirements - you cannot use Samsung Pay on a rooted device (since root trips KNOX). It's Samsung Pay or rooted phone, your choice (1,2,3,5). International devices don't get US warranty (6).
My suggestion is to go for the cheaper one. I bought an FD gold model on Amazon for $625 (and free 1-day shipping), which was about $50+ less than the F model. I could have gone on ebay and saved another $30 or bought a used phone, but not a bad price.
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@shyam09 Thanks for the education bud, some follow up questions:
1. Does the FD model have less Custom Development/ROM support, compared regular F?
2. Is it true the FD has ALL bands possible, and F doesn't for LTE, GSM use?
3. Is it true FD has both the Exynos AND Snapdragon versions? What's the difference, why?
4. NO American variant is able to be rooted, WITHOUT the Engineering BL, correct?
5. NO unlocked Bootloader model has warranty in the US?
6. NO version works on Verizon AND has an unlocked Bootloader, correct?
7. Once rooted, Knox tripped, that phone can NEVER use Samsung Pay right?
8. Not possible to have Systemless Root or Root cloak to use Samsung Pay?
Thank you so so much for your help in advance! What's making me nervous is the no warranty and almost every other thread in the Q&A section is about bricking :'(!
ProFragger said:
@shyam09 Thanks for the education bud, some follow up questions:
1. Does the FD model have less Custom Development/ROM support, compared regular F?
2. Is it true the FD has ALL bands possible, and F doesn't for LTE, GSM use?
3. Is it true FD has both the Exynos AND Snapdragon versions? What's the difference, why?
4. NO American variant is able to be rooted, WITHOUT the Engineering BL, correct?
5. NO unlocked Bootloader model has warranty in the US?
6. NO version works on Verizon AND has an unlocked Bootloader, correct?
7. Once rooted, Knox tripped, that phone can NEVER use Samsung Pay right?
8. Not possible to have Systemless Root or Root cloak to use Samsung Pay?
Thank you so so much for your help in advance! What's making me nervous is the no warranty and almost every other thread in the Q&A section is about bricking :'(!
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*BUMP*... Anyone? ?
I'm pretty sure you can still use samsung pay even with rooting a phone. However while rooted you can not use samsung pay. The root method here does not trip Knox. I used it on my phone and Knox is still in tact. But like I said you have to unroot for Samsung pay to work again. I wish I had more information for you on the topic but I'm still fairly new to the s7 edge. Also the unlocked bootloader isn't possible as of right now.
Edit: hard brick is impossible because stock firmware is available to flash if anything goes wrong.
shyam09 said:
935F and 935FD are the exact same, except the FD has the dual sim - no other difference (4).
That being said you will want to make sure you know what carrier you are going to end up with before purchasing. Verizon's CDMA network is not supported by the international variants.
In terms of your important requirements - you cannot use Samsung Pay on a rooted device (since root trips KNOX). It's Samsung Pay or rooted phone, your choice (1,2,3,5). International devices don't get US warranty (6).
My suggestion is to go for the cheaper one. I bought an FD gold model on Amazon for $625 (and free 1-day shipping), which was about $50+ less than the F model. I could have gone on ebay and saved another $30 or bought a used phone, but not a bad price.
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Get the F model from B and H. They provide a one year warranty. Done. The other answers can be found on the interwebs.
ProFragger said:
@shyam09 Thanks for the education bud, some follow up questions:
1. Does the FD model have less Custom Development/ROM support, compared regular F?
2. Is it true the FD has ALL bands possible, and F doesn't for LTE, GSM use?
3. Is it true FD has both the Exynos AND Snapdragon versions? What's the difference, why?
4. NO American variant is able to be rooted, WITHOUT the Engineering BL, correct?
5. NO unlocked Bootloader model has warranty in the US?
6. NO version works on Verizon AND has an unlocked Bootloader, correct?
7. Once rooted, Knox tripped, that phone can NEVER use Samsung Pay right?
8. Not possible to have Systemless Root or Root cloak to use Samsung Pay?
Thank you so so much for your help in advance! What's making me nervous is the no warranty and almost every other thread in the Q&A section is about bricking :'(!
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bconte88 said:
I'm pretty sure you can still use samsung pay even with rooting a phone. However while rooted you can not use samsung pay. The root method here does not trip Knox. I used it on my phone and Knox is still in tact. But like I said you have to unroot for Samsung pay to work again. I wish I had more information for you on the topic but I'm still fairly new to the s7 edge. Also the unlocked bootloader isn't possible as of right now.
Edit: hard brick is impossible because stock firmware is available to flash if anything goes wrong.
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moSess said:
Get the F model from B and H. They provide a one year warranty. Done. The other answers can be found on the interwebs.
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Guys, thank you for your responses.
If I'm not mistaken aren't the Exynos variants F and FD both Bootloader unlocked?
Anyone know if F has more development than the FD model or can they share all ROMs radios and etc?
No variant that works on a CDMA network in the US has an unlocked Bootloader, correct?
Finally, possibly may have a choice of getting the Note 7, would you guys think the Exynos models F and FD come with unlocked Bootloaders for better rooting and custom ROM options?
Thanks again guys!
Since they both are an Exynos variant, is it possible to flash 935F firmware to Korean variants, if possible? (Through Odin - SamFirm)
LanC_KR said:
Since they both are an Exynos variant, is it possible to flash 935F firmware to Korean variants, if possible? (Through Odin - SamFirm)
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No of course not. Odin won't let you.
Sent from my Motorola Star-Tac
Brava27 said:
No of course not. Odin won't let you.
Sent from my Motorola Star-Tac
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I see. I thought it would be possible also on Exynos variant, since carrier-branded SD820 S7/S7E can be converted into 930/935U through the same way.
Converting G935S to G935F
Apologize for asking again, I have been searching for a definite answer regarding converting from 935S to 935F (Same hardware). found some who claim it is possible (no explanation how) and some who say it's impossible.
Can anyone recommend what can be done? i.e a customized ROM?
I got the 935S as a leftover from a travel to Seoul and would like to use it elsewhere.. however it is always on roaming, cannot have conf calls and collects news in Korean, etc..
Please help TIA:angel:
LanC_KR said:
Since they both are an Exynos variant, is it possible to flash 935F firmware to Korean variants, if possible? (Through Odin - SamFirm)
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I just went and asked the same thing, and deleted it, cause i have a Note8 and we can flash whatever carrier firmware we want, the phone is decided by the SIM card...BUT ever carrier has the SAME model number for once, every carrier is SM-N950U, an odd couple are SM-N950U1....
LanC_KR said:
Since they both are an Exynos variant, is it possible to flash 935F firmware to Korean variants, if possible? (Through Odin - SamFirm)
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AndroidDevices said:
I just went and asked the same thing, and deleted it, cause i have a Note8 and we can flash whatever carrier firmware we want, the phone is decided by the SIM card...BUT ever carrier has the SAME model number for once, every carrier is SM-N950U, an odd couple are SM-N950U1....
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I know this thread is old but it is possible. I have korean model G935S which have ROM of G935FD, I am not sure how it was done, but it was done to convert it into dual sim model. So i am pretty sure F ROMs could also be flashed, but how? Its an question whose answer I dont have xD
here i what you need https://combinefile.com/index.php?a=downloads&b=file&c=download&id=25856
Any file for Oreo?
Hi!
Is there a combination file to convert with Oreo 8.0 version?
Converting g935s to g935fd
It is possible to convert g935s to g935fd. The phone am using is a korean version and it came with a g935fd rom but I can't get where it is uploaded
after rooting can i use any another software varient of the s6 egde+. since mine is an at&t varient,there isn't much there.and mostly all the mods and roms i have seen here is for the other varients.
will there be any problem if i flash the stock rom of indian varient in it?
As at&t uses also GSM network you should be able, just make sure you do use a kernel that match your model.
Hello, I would like to know if I can flash my verizon galaxy s8 with tmobile software, or any other model, since I can see that this year all the carriers are using the same model G950U. That is, a single model with different carriers, very similar to how the international version G950F works which is the same model for all carriers in Europe and allows you to change the software through ODIN. I hope someone can help me. Thank you very much.
lmario1985 said:
Hello, I would like to know if I can flash my verizon galaxy s8 with tmobile software, or any other model, since I can see that this year all the carriers are using the same model G950U. That is, a single model with different carriers, very similar to how the international version G950F works which is the same model for all carriers in Europe and allows you to change the software through ODIN. I hope someone can help me. Thank you very much.
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From what I've gathered is that there's a user data partition that dictates the carrier and Odin currently doesn't allow flashing of this.
Saw this as a comment somewhere here and best I've seen so far.
Personally I think it is just a matter of time before we figure this phone out and will be able to do whatever we want. They already have root for Exynos model and I think now the search is on for modified Odin, as Tehpirate said. I believe they had modified Odin for S7, to do similar stuff, so it's not like starting from scratch.
I hope is the same like the s7 U firmware... That's nice cause I can flash U firmware and get rid of the carrier bloatware.
Hello, I have the T-Mobile Galaxy s8+. All the ROMs I see released do not explicitly state support for my variant, but I'm wondering whether other T-Mobile S8+ users have tried them successfully? If so, which? Is it that all Snapdragon variants are pretty much the same? Thank you.
No, none of the ROMs posted on XDA are designed for G955T or for any Snapdragon variant, but instead for the G955F/FD Exynos versions, sold outside US, Canada, and China.
vimerate said:
No, none of the ROMs posted on XDA are designed for G955T or for any Snapdragon variant, but instead for the G955F/FD Exynos versions, sold outside US, Canada, and China.
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It's not that no one has tried it's that they can't. Locked bootloader means no bootloader, kernel, or rootfs (amongst other things).