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[Q] Battery defect or rom issue?

Hello!
Sorry I can't post this in the Paranoid Android thread yet. As a noob I can't post in that forum until I have 10 posts so I'm at a loss as to where I should post this.
Anyway, I just put the new 2.1799 PA ROM on my Nexus 7. Unfortunately, I seem to have a serious battery drain when the screen is on. I have read many posts where people claim to have easily achieved 6+ hours of active screen time per battery charge whereas I'm only getting 3-4 hours of active screen time per charge, almost all of it related to web surfing. I have a strong wifi signal and I keep my screen brightness around 20/30 range. I'm not sure if it's the ROM or if my battery is defective.
I have also read about a battery calibration app through a different thread. Is that necessary for the PA ROM? I didn't see anything in the tutorial mentioning a battery calibration.
Included are two pictures, although they aren't very indicative of my problem as my tablet was sitting in my backpack for most the day.
Please tell me I'm just being paranoid! Thank you for the help!

thatnoob said:
Hello!
Sorry I can't post this in the Paranoid Android thread yet. As a noob I can't post in that forum until I have 10 posts so I'm at a loss as to where I should post this.
Anyway, I just put the new 2.1799 PA ROM on my Nexus 7. Unfortunately, I seem to have a serious battery drain when the screen is on. I have read many posts where people claim to have easily achieved 6+ hours of active screen time per battery charge whereas I'm only getting 3-4 hours of active screen time per charge, almost all of it related to web surfing. I have a strong wifi signal and I keep my screen brightness around 20/30 range. I'm not sure if it's the ROM or if my battery is defective.
I have also read about a battery calibration app through a different thread. Is that necessary for the PA ROM? I didn't see anything in the tutorial mentioning a battery calibration.
Included are two pictures, although they aren't very indicative of my problem as my tablet was sitting in my backpack for most the day.
Please tell me I'm just being paranoid! Thank you for the help!
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The battery recalibration is a myth, but there is also no harm in trying it.
according to the pics you have attached, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong.
Battery also drains faster if you have too many apps that have services running.
Ex: Facebook.

I know there is a battery warranty, but how bad does it have to be to get it replaced? My battery cannot reach the 9.5hrs of 720p video playback (with headphones in) as achieved by Asus. I can only get 8hrs. From normal usage, I am only able to get 6 hours.

The ROM has less to do with the battery than the kernel does.
I would say try flashing another kernel. The default cyanogenmod kernel that comes with Paranoid Android didn't give me very good battery life.
Franco kernel gives me excellent battery life. Other good ones for battery are Faux or Motley.
You might like reading this thread about kernels and battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7

AlleN7 said:
I know there is a battery warranty, but how bad does it have to be to get it replaced? My battery cannot reach the 9.5hrs of 720p video playback (with headphones in) as achieved by Asus. I can only get 8hrs. From normal usage, I am only able to get 6 hours.
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That is in the normal range i would say, Companies usually exaggerate.
As suggested try franco's kernel.
He has a free kernel flashing app on the play store.

My issue is with how the battery percentage is running down......
Charge the N7 to max and use it for a good 2 hours and the battery STILL reads 100%.
Even if I then shut down and reboot it still shows 100%, then all of a sudden it will start to drop very slowly at first until it gets to around 40% which it then shuts down and will not reboot, obviously void of any battery cells.
Clearly it's a calibration issue.
This is on a stock non-rooted machine.

vinny86 said:
That is in the normal range i would say, Companies usually exaggerate.
As suggested try franco's kernel.
He has a free kernel flashing app on the play store.
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I tried his kernal. I did my video play back test and I got the same 8 hours as before. During normal usage I think I will get about 30-40 more minutes. Still not what others are getting

Beards said:
My issue is with how the battery percentage is running down......
Charge the N7 to max and use it for a good 2 hours and the battery STILL reads 100%.
Even if I then shut down and reboot it still shows 100%, then all of a sudden it will start to drop very slowly at first until it gets to around 40% which it then shuts down and will not reboot, obviously void of any battery cells.
Clearly it's a calibration issue.
This is on a stock non-rooted machine.
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Try a factory reset. If that doesn't work, you're more than likely actually looking at it being a hardware issue.
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najaboy said:
Try a factory reset. If that doesn't work, you're more than likely actually looking at it being a hardware issue.
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Factory reset was the very first thing I tried when it started playing up.... I'm hoping when 4.1.2 rolls out it may clear it. If not then I'll have to look at doing a root and access the battery file to see if deleting may help.
Thing is a recharge should clear out the battery file stats and calibrate, which clearly it's not.
Apart from this the N7 is flawless so it's staying with me. Running hours is the same, just doesn't give an accurate reading of how the battery is running down.
It's not a big issue.... to be honest I'm more curious than annoyed.

Beards said:
Factory reset was the very first thing I tried when it started playing up.... I'm hoping when 4.1.2 rolls out it may clear it. If not then I'll have to look at doing a root and access the battery file to see if deleting may help.
Thing is a recharge should clear out the battery file stats and calibrate, which clearly it's not.
Apart from this the N7 is flawless so it's staying with me. Running hours is the same, just doesn't give an accurate reading of how the battery is running down.
It's not a big issue.... to be honest I'm more curious than annoyed.
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Have you tried installing a 3rd party battery app to see if it registers the correct battery output? This is the one I have used, works good. GL
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.hubalek.android.reborn.beta&hl=en

snipe2nite said:
Have you tried installing a 3rd party battery app to see if it registers the correct battery output? This is the one I have used, works good. GL
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.hubalek.android.reborn.beta&hl=en
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Yes thanks.... Tried quite a few. Nothing changes.

Beards said:
Factory reset was the very first thing I tried when it started playing up.... I'm hoping when 4.1.2 rolls out it may clear it. If not then I'll have to look at doing a root and access the battery file to see if deleting may help.
Thing is a recharge should clear out the battery file stats and calibrate, which clearly it's not.
Apart from this the N7 is flawless so it's staying with me. Running hours is the same, just doesn't give an accurate reading of how the battery is running down.
It's not a big issue.... to be honest I'm more curious than annoyed.
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You do realize that wiping batterystats.bin has absolutely nothing to do with the battery fuel gauge, right? It does not "calibrate" the battery or affect reported charge. The myth of wiping battery stats has long since been debunked by Google's Android engineers. The only info contained in the file is a list of apps that used battery since the last full charge.
The only other thing you could do besides a factory reset is see if 4.1.2 fixes it for you. If not, then it's definitely hardware causing the issue- the battery charge is likely being improperly read and reported by the battery itself.
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[Q] ROM problem or my battery?

Currently using Stepp_aospX 1.0.0-MR2.
When I'm watching a 30 minute YouTube video, the battery goes down by about 45%. When I turn off the phone and turn it back on, the battery jumps back up about 20-30%. Now I'm wondering if this is a problem with by battery or with the ROM.
Can anyone else get this issue to occur on their phone?

probably the battery, how old is the battery? Any water damage?

THEindian said:
probably the battery, how old is the battery? Any water damage?
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I'm using the same battery the phone came with (bought new 2 years ago). No water damage.

Two years is a lot of time bud, thats the problem right there.. Batteries wear down, imagine how many times that battery has gone from 0% to 100% in the course of 2 years..
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Undiscovered said:
I'm using the same battery the phone came with (bought new 2 years ago). No water damage.
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Yeah, it sounds like you need a new battery. Anker makes great ones, they aren't too expensive, just buy them off of amazon. Before you do that, take out the battery and check for lumps or stuff like that.
Again, there is a 90% change that you just need a new battery

That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.

Undiscovered said:
That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.
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Someone once said to charge the battery to 100% then clear battery stats then drain it down to almost 0% then clear stats again. then charge it back to 100% in one sitting. that helps me sometimes when flashing an old backup and the percentage jumps around after a reboot.

elmagnificado said:
Someone once said to charge the battery to 100% then clear battery stats then drain it down to almost 0% then clear stats again. then charge it back to 100% in one sitting. that helps me sometimes when flashing an old backup and the percentage jumps around after a reboot.
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Thats a placebo. It really doesn't do very much. If you get random battery level jumps, its a sign that you need a new battery

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Undiscovered said:
That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.
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Ive found that a lot of times you can't see it starting to bow, but if you spin it you can tell. If it just spins 90-180* then it's probably ok, but of it spins more than that it's bad. I grab the battery charger + 3 batteres from eBay for under $10. Now I just swap batteries rather than charge the phone.

10-20% (+/-) battery drop after a reboot

I've already tried doing a battery calibration as recommended by many people on the V20 threads, buts this is still happening to me. If I reboot my phone, when the phone comes back on, my battery level has dropped 10-20% (give or take). I know reboots can consume battery, but this is quite a large consumption.
Last night, for example, my battery was at 60%, but after I rebooted, I was immediately at 25%.
Again, I've down the whole calibration thing at least 5x now, and it hasn't helped with this. So now I'm wondering:
1) Is anyone else having this issue, especially with the same variant as me (see below)
2) Is this a Nougat 7.0 issue
3) Is this a battery (hardware) problem. I ordered one of the spare battery kits that come with an extra battery. I figured that I'd try the new battery, but if it doesn't help, then I have a second battery anyway.
ATT variant (h910)
Running on ATT
Battery life has been mediocre to poor, and I've disabled so many features by now that it's gotten kinda ridiculous.
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Try the battery if not, warranty, that's not normal

wing_addict_usa said:
Try the battery if not, warranty, that's not normal
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Yeah, I didn't think it was normal. I was hoping it was a Nougat 7.0 issue, but I wasn't hearing anyone else with this issue. And as stated too, my battery life hasn't been great. I make it through the day, but only of the phone isn't used much. Otherwise, the battery will drain pretty fast.
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What was your calibration method? Running it down to zero once should be good enough then charge with phone on or off without using it to 100%. If still doing it try your other battery. If still doing it exchange.

@rbiter said:
What was your calibration method? Running it down to zero once should be good enough then charge with phone on or off without using it to 100%. If still doing it try your other battery. If still doing it exchange.
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I pretty much did as you just said.
I ran the battery down until the phone powered off. Then I kept attempting to power it on until the LG logo stopped showing up and the phone said that there wasn't enough power to turn on. Then I charged the phone to 100% while phone was still off. Once it hit 100%, I left it charging for another 2 hours.
Overall, it helped, but once I reboot the phone, the battery always drops quite a bit as stated in my first post.
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spexwood said:
I pretty much did as you just said.
I ran the battery down until the phone powered off. Then I kept attempting to power it on until the LG logo stopped showing up and the phone said that there wasn't enough power to turn on. Then I charged the phone to 100% while phone was still off. Once it hit 100%, I left it charging for another 2 hours.
Overall, it helped, but once I reboot the phone, the battery always drops quite a bit as stated in my first post.
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Do you have twrp intalled? I think Lg has a problem with it's battery stats because of the removable battery. On my v10 I had two spare batteries. When one got to like 4% I would power down and pop in the new one. When back on it would read the battery at like 19% or something to the liking. I had to leave my phone off for about 30 secs between changes. I was having similar issues to what you're describing with my v20. I ended up formatting data in twrp and then set my phone up old school style with manual app installation and no data transfer whatsoever. I let the phone die completely and then charged while on uninterrupted. I then at 100% unplugged it and plugged it back in for 20 minutes. My battery has been perfect since. I would also note similar issues on the G4 too. I think this is the cause for the notorious Lg bootloop.. My G4 did it right before the battery drained out and so did my V10..

I had that problem on an old note 4. But not a drastic a jump in percentage. Brought it to Samsung and they just changed the battery and the problem went away.

Swizzle82 said:
Do you have twrp intalled? I think Lg has a problem with it's battery stats because of the removable battery. On my v10 I had two spare batteries. When one got to like 4% I would power down and pop in the new one. When back on it would read the battery at like 19% or something to the liking. I had to leave my phone off for about 30 secs between changes. I was having similar issues to what you're describing with my v20. I ended up formatting data in twrp and then set my phone up old school style with manual app installation and no data transfer whatsoever. I let the phone die completely and then charged while on uninterrupted. I then at 100% unplugged it and plugged it back in for 20 minutes. My battery has been perfect since. I would also note similar issues on the G4 too. I think this is the cause for the notorious Lg bootloop.. My G4 did it right before the battery drained out and so did my V10..
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I have the ATT V20, which doesn't have the bootloader unlocked. So, no TWRP.
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koppee1 said:
I had that problem on an old note 4. But not a drastic a jump in percentage. Brought it to Samsung and they just changed the battery and the problem went away.
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I heard similar issues when I had my Note 4, but in this (using a new Android OS that not many other phones have yet), I wasn't sure if this was hardware or software. I really hope the second battery fixes the problem!
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spexwood said:
I have the ATT V20, which doesn't have the bootloader unlocked. So, no TWRP.
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I would still try a full reset if you haven't yet..

Swizzle82 said:
I would still try a full reset if you haven't yet..
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I'd rather not since I don't have the time to re-setup all the programs I need for work. It takes several days to get everything up and running again, and after having to do this 2x already this past month thanks to the Note7, I don't want to go through it all AGAIN. Its too much of a hassle and shouldn't be necessary since this is a new phone. I mean, w y reset a new phone that's only a couple weeks old?
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spexwood said:
I'd rather not since I don't have the time to re-setup all the programs I need for work. It takes several days to get everything up and running again, and after having to do this 2x already this past month thanks to the Note7, I don't want to go through it all AGAIN. Its too much of a hassle and shouldn't be necessary since this is a new phone. I mean, w y reset a new phone that's only a couple weeks old?
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Do as you wish I understand, just a suggestion..

Swizzle82 said:
Do as you wish I understand, just a suggestion..
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Thanks. I only factory reset as a last resort. Ill do it if nothing else fixes the issues (including a new battery).
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Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue?

Hey all,
I'd like to get a better view on how much 6p's are affected by this issue. I really have no clue what % we're talking about. So.. Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue? If not, could you tell us when you've bought your phone and, if you have accubattery installed, the capacity (health) of your battery?
Thanks in advance!

Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.

Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.

swa100 said:
Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .

Lulzmaster said:
It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.

I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.

I got my phone mid February (Best Buy) last year and do not have the problem. Accubattery shows my battery health at 93% (3220mah). But I also protect my battery as much as possible with when to charge and never let my phone stay plugged in when topped off either.

Never had early shutdown. Had my 6p for a few months. Accubattery shows 99%.
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murphyjasonc said:
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.

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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.

murphyjasonc said:
Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?

Never had early shutdown, and have had my 6P since launch.... Mostly custom AOSP roms....

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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.

Nope
:good::good:We have two in our family and neither one is affected. One was purchased Late 2015 and another early 2016. Both show over 95% capacity in Accubattery (mine is 97%) and I can run the battery down to 1%. Both are stock 7.1.1 one is unlocked and rooted, and the other has never been unlocked. Although I could not vote for each phone, it will be interesting to check poll results a few months down the road.

swa100 said:
Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
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Google's official position is that the early shutdown problem and boot loop of death are both hardware issues. People are experiencing both problems on stock Marshmallow and Nougat as well as on custom ROMs.

murphyjasonc said:
I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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Guess I'm making a call tomorrow then. Hope this straightens things up. Thanks!

Just as an update, I got my RMA last week and it has behaved flawlessly since. Accubattery is actually reporting 101% battery health, and It's taking a little getting used to having a phone that the battery doesn't die in two hours.

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Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932

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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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I haven't had an issue since I got my RMAd device, so yeah. I even have all the same apps installed and everything and I'm still getting ten hours of mixed usage. Performance is getting a little pokey but the phone is coming up two years old soooooooooooo I'm not surprised.
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Poor battery no matter which rom

I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?

KLit75 said:
I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.

Triscuit said:
Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.
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Yea. Thats my biggest fear. Ive replaced small parts before but my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be so Im afraid I might mess it up. Plus I'll need to buy a heat gun.
I'll be more than a little pissed if the battery's shot. This phone is barely 14 months old. Either give us a decent battery or make it replaceable.
Thanks for the info btw. I just installed the app.

Update--Im switching things up a bit. Recently I made some changes and this time I flashed a new rom without some of those changes.
1. I had switched from Action 3 to Nova
*HIGHLY doubt nova is eating up my battery so Im still using it BUT I did remove a widget that has weather. Since I keep phone on device only location, I think theres a chance its always trying to find my locale and consuming battery.
2. I didn't add a gov profile yet.
3. This is the first time in about 4 or 5 rom flashes I didnt flash CTT Mod.
* Again I doubt this is causing battery issues but Im gonna hold off flashing it. No throttling thus far.
As suggested Ill be monitoring with accubattery for a few cycles. But been using my phone about 90 mins this morning (at least 90% of that time actively using with screen on) and I've lost 13%--a huge improvement from yesterday.

KLit75 said:
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6

v12xke said:
Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6
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Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.

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KLit75 said:
Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.
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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)

v12xke said:
Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)
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Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?

KLit75 said:
Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?
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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.

v12xke said:
Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.
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Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing.
I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health.
But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity).
I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.

KLit75 said:
Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing. I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health. But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity). I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.
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Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.

v12xke said:
Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.
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Thanks for the support! I checked that thread and didn't see specific parts (inexpensive ones you referenced) If they're listed Ill look again. It doesn't seem too daunting. I was able to replace the screen on my son's WiU controller. Those were very tiny parts and YES--I did snap off a clip, however I was able to fudge it and it's still working about a year later.
Far as RMA, does anyone know if they replace it with the same crappy stock battery? From my perspective this seems like a clear case where a recall is in order.
But if its the same battery, Im just setting myself up for the same problems 8 to 12 months from now. Even if I buy a new phone Id still want to sell this one and thats not as easy with a crap battery. Plus theyd have my phone for x days so Id need to find a temp phone in the meantime.
Don't mean to jabber on...this sucks.
Oh yeah...cuz it was after hours I sent an email to support last night. Do you think Ill get a response? Or should I just call when I have time to be on hold?

Spoke to a clone at Huawei then asked to speak to the clone's supervisor (wasn't sure if clones had supervisors--they do. But the programming is identical.) Long frustrating phone call and they aren't going to replace my battery because its out of warranty...by 4 f#@&ing days!
I told them they lost a customer for life and I was being 100% sincere. How could I ever buy from people who thinks it ok to sell defective crap, know about it, then do nothing to make things right?
I'm gonna replace the battery on my own. Whether things go good or terrible, one thing is certain--itll be the last time I ever replace anything on any product made by Huawei.