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After applying the GPS fix I am having an odd issue. When I fist launch google maps it shows me in some small rural village in China. Once the GPS gets a fix it goes to where I am really am. This would not be a big deal except when I take pictures it Geotags the picture as being in this Chinese village which is kind of a pain. Also it screws up my weather widgets sometimes. Any ideas? I was thinking maybe it has to do with the server it is using to pull down the GPS data, but not sure.
I am having a similar issue, but not quite as drastic. Mine just simply shows me being the last place i was before GPS was turned on. Like right now, without GPS connected but using the towers to figure out my location, it shows me at the place i at lunch, about 3 miles away, rather than at work. Its VERY frustrating.
I'm having the same problem. My GPS shows me in a neighboring city that is 50 miles away, every time.
The best way to test this is to load the 'Maps' live wallpaper. It happens every time. Also, booting up the 'Maps' application will throw me into the other city for at least five minutes, before it realizes that the data is not correct.
It's a new "google fortune" feature. It's telling you you need to travel the world.
Same problem here, however, I was thinking it had more to do with the "Use Wireless Networks" not updating my location.
-If I have gps turned off and wireless network location on. My location doesn't update at all until I reboot the phone (although Latitude shows it as being updated within the last few minutes, even though it shows me somewhere I haven't been in hours and is 50miles away.)
-If I turn gps on, it will then get a fix and properly update my location.
I did apply the GPS fix.
lol mine switches between seattle and SPAIN! wtf.
I think it has to do something with the way samsung implements the gps receiver..a friend had a sammie moment..she would be right next to me..nyc...but her gps would say shes in havana, cuba..on good days..some place in estonia..lol...and now i see the issues being replicated here...i blame samsung...my old trusty g1 locks a signal and is very accurate within a min or 2..
Thanks for the info, sync3. That's starting to become my thought as well.
What a shame. I hope an official statement is released, either way.
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Same problem here, however, I was thinking it had more to do with the "Use Wireless Networks" not updating my location.
-If I have gps turned off and wireless network location on. My location doesn't update at all until I reboot the phone (although Latitude shows it as being updated within the last few minutes, even though it shows me somewhere I haven't been in hours and is 50miles away.)
-If I turn gps on, it will then get a fix and properly update my location.
I did apply the GPS fix.
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This is the EXACT problem I am having. I dont know how to get it to update my location.
I have the same issue. I also had applied the GPS fix... I've tried reverting to stock settings, tried enabling skyhook and tried a few other things.
The only way I've been able to properly get my location is to turn off the network assist and tell the GPS to operate in standalone mode. It takes a heck of a lot longer for a fix, but it's accurate if it does get a lock. Doesn't work so well indoors though.
Who the heck were the field testers for this device? its full of more bugs than an entymologist's labratory.
Clear your GPS data
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Clear your GPS data
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That was one of the first things I tried. It didn't help.
My main concern is that this is unrelated to the GPS software issue and that this is actually a hardware issue. Does anyone agree or disagree with this?
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My main concern is that this is unrelated to the GPS software issue and that this is actually a hardware issue. Does anyone agree or disagree with this?
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I agree this is hardware related because others have reported exchanging their phones rids them of the GPS issues.. :-/
I work in Houston and sometimes while at work GPS says I'm in Pawcatuck, CT.
The question is when not using gps what function of the phone updates your location? Could it be a network issue? How do you force it to retrieve tower data that marks your location?
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Well, i exchanged my phone last night because of this issue and the new one is doing the same thing. So either this is a problem inherent to this model (hopefully the software not telling the phone to refresh tower data) that can be fixed with an update or i am extremely unlucky.
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Well, i exchanged my phone last night because of this issue and the new one is doing the same thing. So either this is a problem inherent to this model (hopefully the software not telling the phone to refresh tower data) that can be fixed with an update or i am extremely unlucky.
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Just had my 3rd call with TMobile- she now assured me that this is a software issue (which i made her mark in my account incase it winds up being hardware later) and that all phones with software # T959UVJFD have it. She said tmobile is working with samsung to fix. I told her all Galaxy S series, domestic and international, have GPS issue and samsung has yet to fix any. She said well that is something you need to consider.
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Just had my 3rd call with TMobile- she now assured me that this is a software issue (which i made her mark in my account incase it winds up being hardware later) and that all phones with software # T959UVJFD have it. She said tmobile is working with samsung to fix. I told her all Galaxy S series, domestic and international, have GPS issue and samsung has yet to fix any. She said well that is something you need to consider.
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Wow, very helpful information. How they get this fix released ASAP.
I got my streak 2 days ago and have yet to lock a GPS signal after leaving it outside for 15 minutes and keeping it on all day next to a window. I've tried turning on/off the GPS and rebooting with no success. Any ideas?
Have you tried flashing the ROM?
not that it helps but mine locks almost instantly. This was with 1.6 and 2.1 that i currently have. I use GPS daily and this was the first thing I checked...
Have you tried in an open area away from buildings?
You may be near a window but say the satellites its trying to lock on to are come from the other side of the building/house?
For example I used to have an apartment on the 3rd floor facing north and it would take forever to get a lock near a window or even out on my balcony. The second i left my apartment and went down the hallway to the window on the other side of the building (south side) i'd get a lock instantly.
Not saying south is the way the device should be pointing, but your location does help you get speedy locks.
I haven't got my streak yet but i'm pretty familiar with reg-editing windows mobile devices to get a lock instantly (cab in my sig for example).
Make sure you have the correct aGPS server and aGPS is enabled (i don't know how to do that on android yet but look through menus and see if you can find that).
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I got my streak 2 days ago and have yet to lock a GPS signal after leaving it outside for 15 minutes and keeping it on all day next to a window. I've tried turning on/off the GPS and rebooting with no success. Any ideas?
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I had a similar issue, I did a factory reset and everything works great now!!! Maybe that will help....
Still no luck...
I tried a factory reset over the weekend and still had no success. My old HTC Fuze works fine in all the same places, so it is definitely an issue with the Streak and/or the build AT&T put on it.
I called Dell about this too - they suggested the device was working fine since it picks up a location when you choose the "Use wireless networks" in Locations. I tried to explain that this data come from Google's database of cell towers and WiFi hotspots, not the GPS signal, but I don't think they understood. I tried several other GPS diagnostic apps and none of them pick up any GPS signal or otherwise work at all, so I know there is something wrong.
I asked to escalate the issue and to get a replacement unit, so hopefully that does the trick.
Have you modified APN? (Remember to enable "supl")
Did you turn on the data connection?
New unit works
The new unit worked right away. I picked up 8 satellites sitting on my couch within 30 seconds - no where near line-of-sight with the sky and where none of my other gps-enabled devices work.
I've tried every fix, every change and every hand position and the gps was still unacceptably slow and useless. After several phone calls to TMO I finally convinced them to send me a new phone.
I unpacked the new phone put my battery and sim card in booted it up clicked on google maps the gps flicked on and off about twice and then locked gps within 35 meters. Then I double checked the settings and use wireless carriers was unchecked.
Also my signal shows more bars. It still goes from 2 bars to 4 bars if i hold it by the top upside down but it was showing none (still worked) then 4?
This begs the question to me, is this a hardware issue? software? if it is soft why if they can fix on the later batches cant they fix for everyone?
New phone about:
model sgh-t959
firmware 2.1-update1
baseband T959UVJFD
kernel 2.6.29
the tech also told me to periodically do *#*#checkin#*#* on the dialer to be in the first people to get OTA updates when available. Anyone ever heard of this?
Thanks, i've been on this forum since my TMO pocket pc phone but this is my first post.
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*#*#checkin#*#* or *#*#2432546#*#* is technically pinging google, sending your phones info... in the event you are on an outdated OS version you will be upgraded soon. It's not a waiting list, no one but Cyanogen goes first. then he gives google the go ahead to ship it out
For what it's worth, my phone was packaged on 8/19/10, and takes a long time to find GPS signal. I did both fixes, but ended up reverting back to Standalone mode to get semi-consistent results. Once it's locked in, it's very accurate.
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New phone about:
model sgh-t959
firmware 2.1-update1
baseband T959UVJFD
kernel 2.6.29
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does anyone have anything different from this? i picked up my vibrant a couple days ago, and my info is the same as this.
my gps works fine outdoors, sometimes has trouble determining location indoors. signal indoors usually shows 0-2 bars of 3g with consistent speeds, with full bars outside.
i can't complain
^^ The one I ordered from Amazon on 8/31 and got delivered yesterday has the same firmware, version etc. Today morning tested GPS on way to office and no problems. Locked satellite in 2 secs and did good job re-routing couple times when I ignored the GPS lady. I dont know if the problem starts when you use GPS more frequently. Hope not!
mind checking the GPS settings and telling us what they are? maybe some screenshots with drocap?
That's great for you but a single anecdotal data point is not an official fix validation.
I just tried *#*#2432546#*#* on my vibrant and got no results whatsoever. I have rooted with the one click root but have not installed any roms. I did do a backup rom with Rom manager and I believe it ended up with clockworkrecovery mode. I have done nothing else. Has something occured that will make it impossible for me to get the OTA? I have gotten checkin successful in the past but now nothing. Any help is greatly appreciated.
OP, this is by no means a flame but locking on with 35 meters accuracy is EXACTLY the issue with the GPS. That's 100 feet, man. Not accurate in my book. With aGPS turned off, my mt3g gets within 2-5 meters in about 20 seconds. Do a GPS stats test and see how many sats you lock on. I'll bet 1 to 3 at best. If more, post pics.
Mine works after using that fix that's been going around. Only thing is that out takes a while for the gps to lock but otherwise its fine. I think lol.
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I got a new one, my GPS locked in 10 seconds up to five meters
i get 11 satellite indoor and map is locking very fast and i am not using wifi network
Indeed, I am getting 10 sats indoors with wifi network turned off. Does a cold lock in seconds.
edit: GPS is not fixed. Can't get a lock after trying again this morning. Had to restart phone.
im excited to get this update!! thanks for the post!
in Baltimore, MD area here, no update for me yet!
Just apply the update yourself. No point waiting for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785028
GPS is indeed very accurate now!
Locked within about 10 seconds, got IN MY HOUSE, within about 10 feet from where I'm sitting.
This wasn't listed as one of the fixes for the OTA. Are you SURE it's actually working better now and it's not just a placebo effect?
ANY reset for an update is going to flush the GPS-xtra assistance data cache and force new downland of Alamanc and Ephemris. There is NO way you would know if this update did anything yet. I doubt ANY GPS changes are in this update since device team is still testing various fixes.
I am really curious too.. I looked on the sprints facebook page and some people said they still having probems with the gps even after the update.
I am still waiting to get the update.. patiently grrrr .. lol
I can confirm this too.. I watched the signal lock within no more than like 30-45 sec. As we all know before it was either nothing or a trickle. I have also noticed the performance enhancements they stated. The signal as you drive and the switch of of views as you drive are faster and more detailed before the directions are needed..
The map caches well on 3G and well on 4G. It makes me wonder, Samsung is using everything as guinea pigs to test so next year they bomb us with the Galaxy S2 which they so happily confirmed along with the Tegra 2 Galaxy Tab 2.
Sucks tho, bastards stripped 4G and Voice in the US.. :-( Oh well still have Motorola N HTC for their toys...
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Placebo effect or not, testing it the same way today as I did yesterday (and multiple days before) and having it work immediately without using wireless networks is awesome.
I'll take it.
One thing to note: When I rebooted my phone after the update, I immediately turned on Airplane mode (habit to kill that time without service bug) and a message popped up "Turn off Flight Mode to update firmware" so I immediately turned it back off. Maybe the update causes Sprint to have firmware updates pushed to the phone that affects this?
Or maybe not. Dunno; I ain't a phone guy.
Apparently you guys didnt read Aero1's post. The GPS apparently always works once after a reset, which the update forced. We shouldn't be able to confirm that the GPS is working for a little while yet.
Nope, fail. Update pushed last night, GPS sucks in the morning. Utter, complete fail. Tried to access GPS with WiFi on, now it's sitting there like an idiot until the screen times out. Had to force ephemeris clear to get it to work again. Also, "accuracy" hard-coded value still exists. And now, screen brightness is, for whatever reason, dimmer under auto than before.
Although I never had a GPS problem it does seem a bit faster now. I was really worried about GPS issues after reading all of the reviews and articles. I use GPS a lot and was very disappointed by what I was reading. I got my Epic at 8am on the day of launch and fired up GPS to test and it worked great. Has worked every day since with no issues at all. I don't understand how or why it works for some (because I have seen other people say the same thing about GPS) and not for others.
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Apparently you guys didnt read Aero1's post. The GPS apparently always works once after a reset, which the update forced. We shouldn't be able to confirm that the GPS is working for a little while yet.
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I read it. I have no idea who he is. Doesn't mean he's wrong or right, just means my initial anecdotal evidence is positive. Tomorrow may be different, but I don't take things at the word of people I don't know. If it's bad tomorrow, I'll come back and say so. My experience isn't proof of anything outside of my experience.
Oh, did you know the common dog is actually part of the family felinus and not caninus as previously thought?
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Tomorrow may be different, but I don't take things at the word of people I don't know. If it's bad tomorrow, I'll come back and say so.
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No disrespect or flamebait intended whatsoever, but isn't that somewhat the point of the forums?
I fear that premature threads like this are counterproductive. If Samsung checks these boards at all they'll think, "Well if even the tech savvy are fooled into thinking it's fixed, we definitely don't actually have to do anything." They are just *looking* for a reason to not actually fix this problem. There really needs to be constant and unrelenting/vocal frustration to force them into addressing this. The minute it appears on gizmodo/engadget is the moment when Samsung *might* begin to care.
I'm particularly fearful that only the gsm versions are getting the official fix because of the Sprint statement that the problem was fixed prior to release. And Epic owners will just be left high and dry.
Yeah, I tested this morning and my GPS is definitely broken, so the problem is indeed not fixed.
Applied update. After letting the GPS search around for a minute it locked outdoors. Turned it off, back on then it locked in seconds. Turned it off, walked inside house turned GPS back on, locked in a few seconds. Walked around my entire house, upstairs and down stairs and it stayed locked to an average of 5 sats. Rebooted my phone, and still near instant lock indoors. This was done with wifi on and then off and with `Use Wireless Networks' disabled for all tests.
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Applied update. After letting the GPS search around for a minute it locked outdoors. Turned it off, back on then it locked in seconds. Turned it off, walked inside house turned GPS back on, locked in a few seconds. Walked around my entire house, upstairs and down stairs and it stayed locked to an average of 5 sats. Rebooted my phone, and still near instant lock indoors. This was done with wifi on and then off and with `Use Wireless Networks' disabled for all tests.
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Wait a few hours and try again. It'll probably be broken.
Folks I am now seeing symptoms of stickiness in the GPS cache on both our ec05 Epics. The symptom is GPS on, application requiring GPS on, and the device not obtaining any GPS after several minutes optimum conditions, followed by a battery pull and a GPS acquisition within a few seconds.
This was a known issue on older firmware, one I never saw with eb13, which I had for a month, but which has returned on both our epics wiht EC05.
Lets track this to see if anyone else has this. Please do not cloud thread with discussions of accuracy or results one sees within a couple of days of any reset.
I've been of EC05 about a week now and its gps works fine for me so far.
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I've been of EC05 about a week now and its gps works fine for me so far.
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Did you experience the known bug we had for six months before EB13?
aero1, noticing the same thing. Very disappointed. EB13 seemed to work perfectly. Now it's back to old antics. However, it's more variable than before - I've switched off my Airave, and it seems to be a bit better.
I am seeing something like this.
My weather app for instance; has the next town over from me. If I open Google Maps; the cursor is in the next town; but then after a few seconds locks correctly.
If I close Google Maps and reopen it, its back in the tow next to me.
I tried to clear the AGPS stats using GPS Status (from the market).
It just seems to not be updating or remembering where I am; don't know why that is.
I'm sitting on a 48hr uptime and still pulling GPS indoors with accuracy within 1m.
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If I close Google Maps and reopen it, its back in the tow next to me.
I tried to clear the AGPS stats using GPS Status (from the market).
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GPS status' clear cache and download new assistance has never worked on epic. I spoke with developer some months ago and assistance data cache of samsungs is different than GPS status uses.
Town next to you could be because you are using "use wireless network" (which you should have off for this testing).
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I'm sitting on a 48hr uptime and still pulling GPS indoors with accuracy within 1m.
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Accuracy has never been the problem with epic (although reported accuracy is a fixed bug.
And this cache bug was present on all pre eeb13 epics, it is just a question of user habits that makes a difference on if you see it. Did you see it before eb13?
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aero1, noticing the same thing. Very disappointed. EB13 seemed to work perfectly. Now it's back to old antics.
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pre release eb13 with original kernal had some GPS problems but latter version including the official eb13 finally fixed the issue present since September. I was so happy. I am still testing but am 90% sure it is back as well.
The cold start workaround that worked great for us was disabled in EB13 and is still disabled in EC05. Has anyone got a working ## sequence to get to the GPS debug/settings menu?
@aero1, today seems to be much better - haven't had any lock problems, either WiFi or 3G. Perhaps there were some issues with the assistance server yesterday? I couldn't get a lock for the life of me yesterday, but as of today (with no reboots), I've gotten a lock every single time, over all data interfaces. Have you noticed any improvements?
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Perhaps there were some issues with the assistance server yesterday? I couldn't get a lock for the life of me yesterday, but as of today (with no reboots), I've gotten a lock every single time, over all data interfaces. Have you noticed any improvements?
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I rebooted in the past 24 hours for other reasons so I wont expect to see a problem for anther day. And any problem with data connection, not jut assistance server, would mimic the old issue.
I've seen similar problems to the old DK28. Didn't have them with EB13, they do seem to be back to a certain extent with EC05.
GPS status' clear cache and download new assistance has never worked on epic. I spoke with developer some months ago and assistance data cache of samsungs is different than GPS status uses.
Town next to you could be because you are using "use wireless network" (which you should have off for this testing).
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Thanks!! I will shut off using the network and test for a few days.
(don't know why that didn't come to mind .. age i guess... hehehe)
EDIT: I turned off the use network in GPS and my GPS is much better. Thanks again for pointing that out aero1.
I really do wonder if there was a problem with the backend on the assistance servers - after 41 hrs of uptime, I'm still getting locks every 4-5 seconds - with 8 hours inbetween attempts, on EC05. The first day we had EC05, I had a miserable time getting locks, with a reboot required constantly, but I must say, it's been behaving much better.
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I really do wonder if there was a problem with the backend on the assistance servers - after 41 hrs of uptime, I'm still getting locks every 4-5 seconds - with 8 hours inbetween attempts, on EC05. The first day we had EC05, I had a miserable time getting locks, with a reboot required constantly, but I must say, it's been behaving much better.
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Not an issue with the assistance servers. I could tell because in all cases I had no lock after a few minutes, I get near instant a-gps locks with a reset meaning cache is cleared and cache is successfully populated from assistance server
I looked into this a bit. While I was unable to locate the root cause of the problem (I suspect it's in the ril or radio), I've implemented a workaround that simply downloads time & assistance data every time the "Use GPS satellites" or notification widget toggle is enabled.
Would folks who have problems with the GPS in EC05, especially if they temporarilly resolve after a reboot, mind testing the workaround? It's not a perfect solution, but it may make the problem much less annoying than it presently is.