From single-sim to dual-sim possible? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey!
Is it possible to change an single-sim Moto into a working dual-sim version? The SIM-tray is cutted out for two SIM.

naturelle said:
Hey!
Is it possible to change an single-sim Moto into a working dual-sim version? The SIM-tray is cutted out for two SIM.
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Only in RetAsia models.

Thanks!

People have been trying. From reading what other share it is possible to solder in the pongo pins as the socket is there for the second SIM. Also the plastic tray has a plastic cover where the second Sim should have been.
Software side yeah is doable (with a bit of argue and salt) the phone is capable. There are two possible scenarios:
1) the modem from a single Sim variant is truly capable and not having anything disable, at which is enough to adjust build.prop properly to enable such features as dual SIM options and UI in the system, also letting the os know to look for a second Sim
2) the modem is disabled in some way, but is easy to fix as flashing over the modem from the dual SIM variant, and then continue as of case #1
IMO, you really must have a need for a second Sim on this phone to go through all this trouble!
It's good to know that the option is there if someone needed it badly.
If you are willingly to solder in the pongo pins I'd be happy to help with the build.prop adjustments !

x play / zplay could, there is thread in xda, i would say yes, for x style can mod single to dual sim mode

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Dual Sim Adaptor

Will Any dual sim adaptor fit the Magician or are the specific ones?
Also can anyone link me up to a good one?
EDIT: Does the dual sim adaptor that doesnt require cutting fit or not?
If someone know a quick reply would be appriciated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25127&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
I've posted a link to the cut dual sim I use. Works perfectly.
V
Thanks VJay, i dont fancy the idea of cutting my sim cards i have to say, does anyone know if the one that DOESNT require cutting fits?
nobody? I need to order it today you see
I think I saw some application where you can use a special sim, and hold up to different 16 SIMS on it, switching with some software clicks. Not sure though.
jaso2005: 16 in 1 won't work in the UK.
There are ghost sims (2 in 1 non cuts), but they are typically external I think. I haven't seen an internal one.
Cut sim worked great for me though!
V
well ive ordered one of the none cut ones in hope that it might just work! lol we shall see! ill keep you updated!
I once bought a 6-in-1 sim kit. i was able to copy only a pre-paid sim, but most regular sims today cannot be copied. i'm now using a brando 10th era no cut dual sim adapter. no need to power off or switch on/off flight mode to switch sims 'coz it has its own stk menu. i had to make my battery thinner though so it would fit.
i had to make my battery thinner though so it would fit
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How did you make your battery thinner?? I have a dual sim adapter that I used for my T68 but cannot use it on JAM cos the battery wont fit!
check this topic out http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33658&highlight=brando

Dual Sim Cards

Did anyone try these dual simcard adapter in a wizard, I got one and maybe the software will not fit to windows mobile 5 but the changing between the two providers last endless, sometimes it needs a softreset to get a connection... need help
cheers
I do use a dualsim adapter without problems. Changing between te two SIM's never lasts longer then 3 to 5 seconds.
Have you tried the adapter in a non WM5 phone?
Cheers,
Cactus
where did you guys get these dual sim adapters? didnt even know they existed, quite interested to have one!
Hi,
http://www.magicsim.com/english/index.asp?new_id=27
They have got all kinds of solutions. I tried the MagicSim16 (16 SIM's on one SIM) but that didn't work, so I had to fall back to a DUAL SIM adapter.
Regards,
Cactus
le_cactus
Could you post some more references of the dual sim you bought? even a pic to let us identifiy the correct sim in ebay? Thank you
Hi,
I bought the 7th Era Dual SIM adapter. It's the one where you need to cut your sims. I figured the 8th Era solution wouldn't fit in the Wizard without doing harm to the case. I also tried the 9th era but I couldn't crack the encryption from my Orange SIM, the T-Mobile SIM however wasn't a problem at all.
A warning: If at all possible buy a duo SIM from your provider and cut that to pieces. I cut up my TMO SIM and it doesn't make a good connection with the SIM adapter. Luckely I still had the 9th Era card that I cut up with no problems so I'm using that inside the 7th Era adapter.
B.w.t. the 9th Era SIM card also worked with the Wizard. It's the best solution imho, but you need to be able to crack the encryption of your original SIM and as I understand it Vodafone and Orange SIM use a newer encryption that can't be cracked.
Hopes this helps,
Cheers,
Cactus
Hopes this helps.
Hi,
I also have a Wizard and use the MagicSim. I found that the problem is the Radio version. I have the MDA Vario by T-Mobile Germany. The shipped Radio version is 1.40.10 and have no problems with the DualSim.
Yesterday, I tested a newer OS Version shiped:1.3.2.5 (T-Mobile) new Version:1.3.7.11(Qtek). And then I flashed the Radio from 1.40.10 to 1.12.10. I tested my dualsim and nothing was happend, only i restart my wizard.
Than i tested another OS 1.5.4.2 with Radio 1.13.10 and 1.12.10 with the same problem. Than i restore the Radio to 1.40.10 and the dualsim works perfekt.
i hope u understand my bad english
Good luck...
dual sim card
now everything works fine, i don´t know if this comes from changing the network-choice of the handy: I had been in Austria and changed this item into manual ( from automatic). now I put back the old "automatic" modus and the simcard (or the wizard) finds a net in about 15sec... so changing from one card to the other is no problem..
But the backpart (Idon´t know the englisch word) will no longer fit perfectly, but it is only 2mm higher on one side.
cheers
Hunter
I ordered a dual Sim from Ebay a month ago and received it a week later. Unfortunately I cannot get it to work. It just doesn't fit right, the stress on the battery cover is quite heavy, since the cover is under stresss from sticking out so much. I am afraid the plastic bits will break and the cover will become useless. The stress is caused by the thick little black chip in the adapter, that does not fit into the sim slot. Also I cannot get the adapter to work, the Vario reports an invalid Sim. This can be due to a defective adapter ( caused by me twisting it while trying to fit it without the battery cover being stressed) or by my ROM version or even the T-Mobile Simcards, which have been reported not to work with dual sims in some threads. I previously tried a cut-out dual sim in my Magician, but no dice, the wretched thing would not work. my simcards still worked, but the Magician kept seeing invalid sims. Probably also a case of my destroying the little bugger ( I am not very carefull I guess, but of an impatient guy who cannot handle those cheap ass fragile things).
Ok, my question is: can someone post some pictures of the way they fitted the adapter and how much the battery cover is sticking out?
It would help me big time in deciding if I will try a third time to get it right. thanks people!
I recently bought a MagicSIM from a German eBay seller (http://stores.ebay.de/CironStar) including cutting service. Three days after sending him my two SIMs, I received it back yesterday and it works great in my Wizard!
What I like especially is, that you don't have to enter your PIN each time when switching the SIM.
I still fear those cut-up job ones... even if they do it for you; one wrong move and *snip* goes your SIM - have fun explaining that to your operator :/
I see they now offer a no-cutting-involved version as well. Has anybody tried this type ? It seems like it'd at least double-up in thickness, and there's a chippy bit that goes outside of the area where the SIM goes which definitely looks like it'd get smushed by the battery.. so I'm sceptic
what is the main purpose you guys use a dual sim adaptor? is it because u need to travel from country to country all the time? Another question is, once u have fitted two SIMs in your phone, can they BOTH receive calls at all times if someone called u on either number?
toneslee - yes, dual SIMs auto-switch the active SIM from time to time, and you should be able to receive calls, text messages, etc. on both.
My main reason to do this would be so that I can drop both my vodafone and lebara sims into the thing. Lebara is nice and cheap for my international calls (work, girlie, etc.), but is stupid-expensive for national calls - so I'd like to use my Vodafone for that.
Right now that means I have to keep two phones Which isn't tooooo bad.. but if at all possible, I'd rather just keep the one.
@ toneslee: You CANNOT receive calls on both Sims simultaneously. Your device has only one GSM radio and can handle connection to the GSM towers,data and voice from only one SIM at a time. What the dual sim adapter that ZeBoxx uses can do, is automatically switch which SIM is in use every 1 to 30 minutes, thereby trying to catch as much calls in both numbers as possible. But true simultaneous reception on both SIM cards is not possible. They cannot be active at the same time, so when one Sim is registered in the network the other is not connected and people calling that number get the same thing like your phone is off, e.g. voice mail.
correct Though I thought they switched a little faster than 1 minute >_<
I'm using a cut sim in my magician, although the "technology" is so basic, there's no reason why it shouldn't work with any phone. Cutting was fine, just do it carefully and use thin scissors. In my experience, there's still enough "space" to make a mistake and for it to still work. You have to be quite unsteady to screw it up and slice right through the middle of the "chip" in the mini-sim.
The only problem I had was that the sim was now too thin so I slid some slivers of paper between the metal sleeve and the mini-sims, and it works fine.
I have two numbers, one contract and one historic PAYG that I keep in case old friends don't have the new number.
V
Thanks for the explanations, guy. I understand now.
Anyone tried those
Hi
has anyone tried one of those multi super 16 in 1 sim card thingys..
basically a sim card that you can load with 16 identities...
+ a usb dongle thing to program it..
i was thinking about cloning my sim card so i can keep it in 2 phones one for work and one for when on the lash.
Supersim 16in1
yes, it works fine. I have 5 phone-numbers on it. but you're able to clone only the (old) v1 simcards.
ermm how do i tell ?
How do i tell what version the simcards are ?

Dual SIM for Wizard ?

Anyone have an idea on dual SIM on Wizard ?
xdawiz said:
Anyone have an idea on dual SIM on Wizard ?
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I too would like this info. I travel a lot and my company gives me a prepaid sim when I am traveling for them.
Later.......
There is already a thread on this, use the search to find it. basically you have two options: The one where you cut your sims (try not to destroy them, with me this method did not work because the dual sim adapter was dead) or the one where you put your sims into a dual sim adapter. the last method leaves a large bump on the back of the device and causes the battery cover to bulge. I tried it, but the bulge is too ugly for me and the chances are that the cover breaks. use search to find more info on this subject.
xdawiz said:
Anyone have an idea on dual SIM on Wizard ?
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http://www.vavolo.com/productdetails.asp,ProductID,2687,,.htm
Worked for me in my Motorola Razr V3 but was troublesome in the Cingular 8125. I haven't tested it since I upgraded my OS on the 8125. But will do that soon.
the vavolo (sim clone) wont work in many countries due to the type of sim.
See my postings in the other thread 9use search0 for the solution that works for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=258487

No SIM detected

I have my Moto X puré edition XT1575, no detect SIM card can somebody help me
Taffy1881 said:
I have my Moto X puré edition XT1575, no detect SIM card can somebody help me
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Is there a sim card in it? If so, is it the correct one? If yes to both......put a small piece of paper behind the sim card, then install it. It will put a little pressure on it so it's touching the contacts better.
Look like the contact is touching on the wrong position of the sim
Taffy1881 said:
Look like the contact is touching on the wrong position of the sim
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That sim looks like you trimmed it to fit? This device takes a specific sim. It's the same sim that a HTC One M9 uses. THIS is the part number for Sprint (what I have). Notice the one edge thats cut. Pretty sure you have the wrong sim.

dual sim variant and related question

hi everyone,
i was gifted a single sim variant from vodafone spain, i got it to dual sim following tutorial on xda , would thank for it before everything, now i have a question my phone only has one imei number that means it isnt really a dual sim, one simcard would be offline while you are on another calling or answering, so question really is does dual sim variant of p8 lite ale-l21 have two imei no´s , if someone can verify that by checking on dial pad *#06#, that would be great help , if someone can verify that then next and progresive step would be to repair imei using some profesional software like hcu client or sigma key, i think if it has only one imei on dual variant also then there is no way single sim variant can be really dual,,,
thanks for reading :good::good:
Dual sim has two imei, i can assure you.
With what version(ale-l12 c432bxxx) came your phone?
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Dual sim has two imei, i can assure you.
With what version(ale-l12 c432bxxx) came your phone?
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to tell you honestly i didnt check at that time, i followed tutorials and now i am on ale-l21c432b560, did download a vdf spain firmware that says b181 in filename so that should be it most probably, my one is going on to recieve signal from both sims but when you are on call other one is offline, it should be related to imei for sure
DEEPAK HTC said:
to tell you honestly i didnt check at that time, i followed tutorials and now i am on ale-l21c432b560, did download a vdf spain firmware that says b181 in filename so that should be it most probably, my one is going on to recieve signal from both sims but when you are on call other one is offline, it should be related to imei for sure
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Try downgrading to b056 and then use updater to get to b170 i had problems with my imei once and solved it that way. I'm not sure it Will work but it's worth a try. The user sokoban has all the files you need on his website
hi,
i still havent tried downgrading as suggested but i managed to get second imei by repairing it using hcu client, so now i have two imei1 and imei 2, but it is still doing the same thing if i am on one line other one goes on to offline mode, so i will try the suggested step and see what happens i havent got anything to lose as atleast both sims are working just not at the same time.
thanks
DEEPAK HTC said:
hi,
i still havent tried downgrading as suggested but i managed to get second imei by repairing it using hcu client, so now i have two imei1 and imei 2, but it is still doing the same thing if i am on one line other one goes on to offline mode, so i will try the suggested step and see what happens i havent got anything to lose as atleast both sims are working just not at the same time.
thanks
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Keep us updated. that's the only way we know wat works
well it didnt work, because the phone it self even though has two imei numbers its not prepared for dual sim active, its a dual sim standby , so hw doesnt permit to have both sims to be working at same time, so thats it one more adventure done, but one thing i was able to do is get bot sims working including microsd card with it ,, you will have to modify the sim tray and microsd card and sim both with have to shed some plastic to get it thin enough to make it work but its possible ,,, sorry huawei ...
DEEPAK HTC said:
well it didnt work, because the phone it self even though has two imei numbers its not prepared for dual sim active, its a dual sim standby , so hw doesnt permit to have both sims to be working at same time, so thats it one more adventure done, but one thing i was able to do is get bot sims working including microsd card with it ,, you will have to modify the sim tray and microsd card and sim both with have to shed some plastic to get it thin enough to make it work but its possible ,,, sorry huawei ...
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That's Actually... AWESOME....
Please tell me you documented that. Or at least show a picture
You need to unlock your network service in order to use dual sim .. maybe you used different network for sims ... try to use both sims with the same network and see after.
yes why not,, but please anyone who does give it a try you would risk breaking microsd and sim its a risk i took for expriment and broke a microsd but got things working, need good skills and patience, and yes it can be done.. you can see in pics i broke one doing it then i tried on a 2 gb one and it worked absolutely fine, most important part is do not over do it, and be prepared to get sim tray out with bit of force once it goes into the slot, so you will have to trim the sim and microsd both of them to minimum thickness possible, then the sim tray woul have to be modified if you pay attention sim sits into a bracket created in simtray, so the hack is to trim that space so that sim almost goes through the tray, now thats it be brave and insert it into the slot try to get it in a bit go out again and slowly letting the tray go into more and more.. hopefully that helps ,,, please do not try this if you dont have patience, took me around 6 hours to figure it out,, and dont blame me if u break any stuff..
tomorrow gone put get 32 gb card for this new shiny thing,
thanks everyone
i am in spain, all phones sold here are unlocked by law, from 2015 onwards, sim locked phones always ask for unlock code except damn iphones that need to be activated, so i am pretty sure it isnt the case aleast not with this one i have. but thanks,,,and as i told i did check specs on gsm arena and it says its a dual standby so it must be hardware that wont allow that,, or that should be it,,
NETWORK Technology
GSM / HSPA / LTE
LAUNCH Announced 2015, April
Status Available. Released 2015, May
BODY Dimensions 143 x 70.6 x 7.7 mm (5.63 x 2.78 x 0.30 in)
Weight 131 g (4.62 oz)
SIM Dual SIM (Micro-SIM/Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
DISPLAY Type IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.0 inches (~68.3% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 720 x 1280 pixels (~294 ppi pixel density)
thanks
DEEPAK HTC said:
yes why not,, but please anyone who does give it a try you would risk breaking microsd and sim its a risk i took for expriment and broke a microsd but got things working, need good skills and patience, and yes it can be done.. you can see in pics i broke one doing it then i tried on a 2 gb one and it worked absolutely fine, most important part is do not over do it, and be prepared to get sim tray out with bit of force once it goes into the slot, so you will have to trim the sim and microsd both of them to minimum thickness possible, then the sim tray woul have to be modified if you pay attention sim sits into a bracket created in simtray, so the hack is to trim that space so that sim almost goes through the tray, now thats it be brave and insert it into the slot try to get it in a bit go out again and slowly letting the tray go into more and more.. hopefully that helps ,,, please do not try this if you dont have patience, took me around 6 hours to figure it out,, and dont blame me if u break any stuff..
tomorrow gone put get 32 gb card for this new shiny thing,
thanks everyone
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That's just awesome
Frankenstein would be jalous

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