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2 weeks ago it was raining so much that the whole parking was under water.
I jumped to my car and went home. Halfway I discovered that my phone was missing, so I went back and found it on the parking, laying under water for half an hour, 10 cm deep.
When I picked it up, even it was still under water the lock screen went on.
At home, after disassembly the phone, only under the battery cover where a few drops of water, futher the phone was dry. Even the headphone and micro-usb are no leaking path.
I use it now again for 2 weeks and it still works fine, without any trouble.
Bravo for HTC to make a phone, more than spashproof
brotsje said:
2 weeks ago it was raining so much that the whole parking was under water.
I jumped to my car and went home. Halfway I discovered that my phone was missing, so I went back and found it on the parking, laying under water for half an hour, 10 cm deep.
When I picked it up, even it was still under water the lock screen went on.
At home, after disassembly the phone, only under the battery cover where a few drops of water, futher the phone was dry. Even the headphone and micro-usb are no leaking path.
I use it now again for 2 weeks and it still works fine, without any trouble.
Bravo for HTC to make a phone, more than spashproof
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Yes, htc is the shizz! I just brought mine back to life and everything works after dropping it on the deep side of my pool. On cases like mine, taking it apart right away and putting it on a bowl of uncooked rice for a week(just to be sure) and it will dry it completely!
Alas mine wasn't so lucky, fell in a puddle as I got into the car, grabbed it out, turned it off and removed battery, sim and SD, wiped as much water off as I could with tissues.
Left it for 2 days to dry, nada. Might be that the impact with the ground (wasn't that deep a puddle) killed it.
Embarassingly and luckily I'd only taken insurance out on it that lunchtime!
Wow, that's pretty impressive for a phone. Touchscreen phones are usually prone to most types of damage, but it's good to see being fully submerged in water didn't completely disable the phone.
You lucky guy
Hmmmmmm
I'm a little dubious... I spilled a really small amount of water from a glass on the bedside table onto my HD2. Even though I immediately jumped out of bed, cursed and wiped it dry, the water seeped into it. I could see the water in the LCD (it looked like a shadow that spread across the screen slowly over days). Two weeks later, the digitizer stopped responding to my touch even though the LCD itself still seems to work. I've hard reset the handset and that hasn't helped. I also tried heating up the unit a bit (without the battery) to try to have the water evaporate from it, but that hasn't helped either.
I took the phone into O2 who had their people look at it. Ultimately they said it was out of warranty because of water damage and that I could purchase a replacement (since I don't have insurance on it).
I'm considering trying to replace the digitizer, but it sounds like a lot of fuss and ultimately the phone won't be under warranty.
Annoying... I miss my HD2. I'm stuck with a Motorola Razr at the moment.
You can drop the phone in anything... aslong as the water does not have minerals that are conductive or prone to errosion it will be fine
[OP] just happen to have some clean water falling from the sky
I had a Blackberry Storm that once got submergered in baby oil.. It stopped working and I left it alone for A month or so...One day i picked it up and it started working... The LCD was messed up with Oil in it but other then that it worked...I opened it up and there was baby oil everywhere.... Got some distalled water and let it sit for a day or so to get it clean then replaced the LCD and it worked like new.
Distalled Water is H20 with notthing in it... As clean as water can get... Sine it has no conductive minerals you can drop a phone or PSP and it will work just fine.
Really?
I thought water itself was corrosive to metal? I can't imagine that the rainwater mentioned in the first post would be as clean as distilled water...
Anyway, I was wondering do you guys have have any suggestions? I have this lovely phone that boots up and I can't do anything with.
Should I just wait it out and see if it starts working again.
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I thought water itself was corrosive to metal? I can't imagine that the rainwater mentioned in the first post would be as clean as distilled water...
Anyway, I was wondering do you guys have have any suggestions? I have this lovely phone that boots up and I can't do anything with.
Should I just wait it out and see if it starts working again.
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if it has clorine in the water then yea... most citys add a small amount of clorine in their water system......
the phone boots but its unresponsive?
we love stories
I dont want to THINK mine under water not to be under water NEVER
Hey,
Just making this post to bring to light a common manufacturing defect I've discovered in at least two Xperia Z3 D6653 phones around the wrist strap hole. Apparently it's not completely sealed, and will leak air and water. As a hacky solution I've taped over the hole with electric tape, and that seals the device. I assume it's present in many more phones if the same problem showed up in mine. Just wanted to get the info out there before people start submerging their new phones.
I've made a video to demonstrate the issue:
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Wow. I can get the same thing to happen when I press against the lanyard hole vs not. However, before finding out about this, I previously dunked this phone in water with a video playing for about a minute and it continued to work fine. Was it only a matter of time before water would get it and make my phone fail? I'm not sure. But there I can't think of a good reason why the pressure will increase and stay high with the lanyard hole closed vs open and the pressure equalizes. I have the D6616.
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Wow. I can get the same thing to happen when I press against the lanyard hole vs not. However, before finding out about this, I previously dunked this phone in water with a video playing for about a minute and it continued to work fine. Was it only a matter of time before water would get it and make my phone fail? I'm not sure. But there I can't think of a good reason why the pressure will increase and stay high with the lanyard hole closed vs open and the pressure equalizes. I have the D6616.
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I previously used the first phone underwater very briefly (about 30-60 seconds), and it seemed just fine. Though I tried it later for about 5 straight minutes and it started getting very hot in the lower left hand corner and it made a buzzing sound from that same area around the hole. It also wasn't very deep at all, only about 3-4 inches of water.
Fixed the video link for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VpuMfpxCrQ
Manufacturing defect. The Z3 is full of it! :/
Attached is mine with an uneven flap.
hanime said:
Fixed the video link for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VpuMfpxCrQ
Manufacturing defect. The Z3 is full of it! :/
Attached is mine with an uneven flap.
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My 3rd one had that lol, 4th one so far seems aesthetically good.
abhinav.tella said:
My 3rd one had that lol, 4th one so far seems aesthetically good.
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I'm trying to get another exchange from the ebay seller. Here goes nothing. Sorry for the off-topic.
Mines goes from 1007 to 1116 and straight back down to 1007. Should I be worried?
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I was the one on your YT vid that suggested using black RTV silicone, in place of electrical tape, to seal up this apparent hole. RTV silicone is rubbery when dry and yet can easily be removed when needed and will not damage the phone. As well, it is black so it will match the phones body to some degree. If needed, get a toothpick and pop out what you filled in. If not, leave it forever and seal up the hole.
That's a good idea but I'm annoyed by the fact that we have to resort to these fixes for something that shouldn't be a problem in the first place.
How are you 100% positive that just because it leaks air, it is not waterproof. I fish a lot and wear breathable wader that do not let water in but it is not air tight since it lets water vapor/air out. Water molecule is relatively large compare to air molecule.
Someone should make a tiny rubber plug, I'd buy one just to ease my paranoid side.
aquaholik (interesting SN to point this out) made a good comment as well, things can be watertight but not necessarily airtight and this could be by design to let the internals breathe
Agree with aquaholik. And the most important part, shouldn't the barometer sensor have access to air? How else can it measure the pressure of air?
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That's a good idea but I'm annoyed by the fact that we have to resort to these fixes for something that shouldn't be a problem in the first place.
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Agreed 100%. But I will take my idea over a piece of tape any day
se1000 said:
Someone should make a tiny rubber plug, I'd buy one just to ease my paranoid side.
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use my RTV Silicone idea and you will get just that. It will form the area and make an impression and IF you opt to take it out, you would have a "plug" of sorts.
My phone has this behaviour as well. I already had it in water briefly.
This might be a seal/mebrane to account for heavy pressure changes.
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My phone has this behaviour as well. I already had it in water briefly.
This might be a seal/mebrane to account for heavy pressure changes.
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I'm copying my response to a reddit post I made about the video...
...the first (now non-functional phone) only lasted about 5 minutes in about 3-4 inches of water. When I pulled it out of the water, it was buzzing and really hot in the lower left corner, which is exactly where the lanyard hole is.
This is very strong evidence that water got in through that hole, especially since the rest of the phone is so well sealed. Plus lasting only 5 minutes at that depth is clearly below the rated performance of 1.5 meters for 30 minutes.
When I got the first phone, I tested the waterproofing of the device by putting it in a dish of water for about a minute, and it seemed just fine after coming out. So I assumed it was sealed, but it simply took much longer for water to enter.
Given my experience with the first phone, I'd rather play it safe and just tape over the hole than risk damaging yet another device in conditions that are well within spec.
Yeah, I totally understand where you are coming from. But if there was indeed a membrane/valve to counter dramatic pressure changes, then closing this pathway could lead to new problems.
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Yeah, I totally understand where you are coming from. But if there was indeed a membrane/valve to counter dramatic pressure changes, then closing this pathway could lead to new problems.
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That's true if it's by design. Which it may still be.
However, I'm going to just run 100% with it plugged and see if anything happens. I really can't afford to lose yet another phone in just a few weeks, and If I do get any negative side effects, I'll be sure to report back.
I'm so paranoid. After reading everywhere complains about the questionable waterproof of the Z3, I decided to give it a ride and check out if it really survives, as I still have the return policy and I was really scared but I put it in water, not to deep, took a little bucket and filled it with about 10-15 cm water and waited for about a minute. As I expected it survived well and I didn't see any abnormalities. Then I dried it up using a microfiber towel and everything works fine. I'll see the next days if I find something strange but everything seems fine. Speakers and microphone work well.
Send your other one through sony repair.
They should cover it as long as the indicators arent red.
They repaired my original Z which displayed water damage, but because the indicators didnt turn, fixed it.
Its clearly a manufacture defect if it is the lanyard hole being open which is causing the problem.
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Send your other one through sony repair.
They should cover it as long as the indicators arent red.
They repaired my original Z which displayed water damage, but because the indicators didnt turn, fixed it.
Its clearly a manufacture defect if it is the lanyard hole being open which is causing the problem.
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they should cover it even if the indicators are red, they market it as a water resistant device.
It's pretty late here so i'm going to keep this simple.
I preordered a black s7 the day it was announced, got it on March 7. Had an s6 before.
It's amazing and all, but what was not so amazing for me was the water resistance.
It got pretty dirty after 1 day of use, so I thought it was a good idea to gently wash it with water and soap - Samsung claims it's water resistant, right?
As soon as i finished washing it, the phone started acting like I was pressing the volume down button. Shortly after that, it started showing the wireless charging animation, again and again.
I decided to power it off, I got my hair dryer and I ejected the sim tray ; was very surprised to find water all over my sim card and the sim tray itself. The water damage indicator/sticker was also touched by the water, making it turn from white to red/pink.
After heating it up with the hair dryer moderately, I powered it on. Surprise, it won't get past the "Galaxy S7" boot screen, like most Samsung Galaxy phones do in case water enters the phone.
It was rebooting after 10 seconds and doing the same thing. This lasted for 10 minutes. My biggest concern here was amoled burn in (google it if you don't know what it means). I managed to boot to recovery and power it off.
I waited for this phone a lot, 3 months to be exact, and turning it into a brick after 1 day of having it is not a good feeling at all.
I put my phone in a bag of rice and left it on the desk. 3 hours later (i had to go somewhere), I got it out of the bag of rice, and powered it on. It went to recovery, I chose to reboot to system, and it did boot. All the features and sensors were working.
Last night I tried rebooting it and it would do the same thing like it did after I washed it. Left it in rice overnight and today morning it booted up. So yeah, something is still broken, but at least I have it working now.
I think the soap caused the water to enter the phone.
I suggest you don't try to wash your phone like I did.
wow. so much for water resistance.
*edit*whoops didn't read the part about soap. yeah, only like lukewarm water they suggest.
Water Resistant, Not waterproof. Tell Samsung about this and they'll tell you all about it.
Water resistant means just that it doesn't mean that it is solvent or cleaner resistant, no cleaners ever just water I feel your pain sir I had to learn this the hard way as well.
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Why on earth did you use soap? :silly:
Soap lower water surface tension and make water more intrusive though small opening I guess.
So don't use soap lol.
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OP, you'll have fanbois jumping all over you wanting to educate you on water resistance and water proof like its rocket science. Point is that they are all wrong. IP 68 means you should be able to do exactly what you did - wash your phone off in water for a few minutes. These S7s just don't seem to be holding up to their IP 68 ratings (I returned an Edge because an underwater photo caused water resistance to fail and fast charging to not work anymore).
Feel your pain. Send it back under buyer's remorse and get another one.
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OP, you'll have fanbois jumping all over you wanting to educate you on water resistance and water proof like its rocket science. Point is that they are all wrong. IP 68 means you should be able to do exactly what you did - wash your phone off in water for a few minutes. These S7s just don't seem to be holding up to their IP 68 ratings (I returned an Edge because an underwater photo caused water resistance to fail and fast charging to not work anymore).
Feel your pain. Send it back under buyer's remorse and get another one.
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OP used soap. It wasn't the water, it was the soap. Soap is a base and messes up all kinds of things. Possibly reacted with the nano coating or the seals.
I've washed my S5 several times with soap - and that is only IP67-rated. Should be fine.
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OP used soap. It wasn't the water, it was the soap.
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This is a fact:
NonXtreme said:
Soap lower water surface tension and make water more intrusive though small opening I guess.
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A few weeks ago I watched a video on how Samsung obtained it's IP68 rating for the S7/E. The video explicitly mentions relying on the surface tension of water to keep it out of microscreens for components like the speaker. Lower the surface tension of water, and it will flow places it didn't before.
Lesson learned for all of us.
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I've washed my S5 several times with soap - and that is only IP67-rated. Should be fine.
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Apples to oranges. The two devices have totally different construction. Anyone who takes your advice with an S7/E is headed for the same trouble as the OP.
After checking out a teardown of an S5, I do see the difference speakerwise - the S5 have a selfcontained speaker, which can handle water - while the S7 doesn't and as you said, relies on surface tension. That's not good..
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After checking out a teardown of an S5, I do see the difference speakerwise - the S5 have a selfcontained speaker, which can handle water - while the S7 doesn't and as you said, relies on surface tension. That's not good..
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And the S5 doesn't have internal gaskets on an SIM/SD slot or it's USB port.
wpbogdan said:
It's pretty late here so i'm going to keep this simple.
I preordered a black s7 the day it was announced, got it on March 7. Had an s6 before.
It's amazing and all, but what was not so amazing for me was the water resistance.
It got pretty dirty after 1 day of use
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You should have learned at the physics classes in school that water does not conduct electricity, but as soon as you add soap it becomes a conductor. So you have shorted all the exposed connections, like the USB pins, headphone jack pins and what not. The water resistance of the phone is not based on protecting the SIM tray, the seals are between the SIM tray and the rest of the phone, so you also shorted the SIM contacts.
At least now you know
Cst79 said:
You should have learned at the physics classes in school that water does not conduct electricity, but as soon as you add soap it becomes a conductor. So you have shorted all the exposed connections, like the USB pins, headphone jack pins and what not. The water resistance of the phone is not based on protecting the SIM tray, the seals are between the SIM tray and the rest of the phone, so you also shorted the SIM contacts.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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You don't have "buyer's remorse" where you live? Here in the US, we get 14 days (20 in some cases) to return the phone no questions asked for a full refund.
wpbogdan said:
And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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Hmmm, I could swear I saw somewhere that Samsung will look for the white tags that turn pink when wet. If they see that the tag got wet then they won't honor a warranty. Not sure if this is true but somewhere today I read that. I think it was that tear down of the S7 ifixit did. or it was a link from there.
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Hmmm, I could swear I saw somewhere that Samsung will look for the white tags that turn pink when wet. If they see that the tag got wet then they won't honor a warranty. Not sure if this is true but somewhere today I read that. I think it was that tear down of the S7 ifixit did. or it was a link from there.
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You can see them clearly in this video:
I have an update, and I want to describe here exactly what happens every time I power it on:
Galaxy S7 screen -> boots straight into recovery.
Every time I reboot from recovery it does the following:
Galaxy S7 screen -> completely black screen -> Galaxy S7 screen -> recovery.
Every single time it enters recovery, it displays an android figure with two refresh arrows spinning, then displaying a yellow exclamation mark warning and shows the recovery options. Does it do this only for me or for you guys too?
I have tried to:
reflash the rom both via odin and kies
factory reset a bunch of times
wipe cache a bunch of times
I have done everything possible to get rid of ALL the water, and I'm sure there is no more water in it. I vacuum'ed the motherboard and left it in rice for 3 nights. does the same thing.
Warranty is also gone because the water damage indicator turned red/pink from white.
I think it's either permanent physical damage to the motherboard, or the water damaged the emmc chip and somehow corrupted the memory (???)
I also made a video of me powering it on, then rebooting it, but I'm unable to post it because new members can't post links until they've reached 10 posts.
also sorry for any grammar mistakes it's 6am lol
Corwinder said:
Water Resistant, Not waterproof. Tell Samsung about this and they'll tell you all about it.
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Actually by stating that it's IP68, it should mean that the device is indeed water PROOF. IDK why would samsung conflict the two things. If it's water resistant only, samsung should've stated that it's only IP67. False advertisement don't you think?
True story:
When he was 8, my little brother snuck our pet snapping turtles out into the woods behind our house and played with them in a muddy puddle. Thinking he would get in trouble for taking them out of their bowl and getting them dirty, he washed them with soap and hot water, which killed them. I was traumatized by their deaths, and have never used soap since.
So at least my S7E is safe.
Hello guys. I am worried about leaving the phone in my pocket while I work, because my job is a very active one, on a very hot country in the summer, so sometimes I see moist on the screen when I pick up the phone. I try to turn it with the front facing the outside of the body, but not always. I maybe paranoid but the speaker on the mxp lately seems to be with the volume slightly lower.
My moto e 2015 damaged the speaker this way, and had to be replaced. I know the mxp has some sort of water protection but not much.
Shall I be concerned?
What do you guys do to prevent this?
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Hello guys. I am worried about leaving the phone in my pocket while I work, because my job is a very active one, on a very hot country in the summer, so sometimes I see moist on the screen when I pick up the phone. I try to turn it with the front facing the outside of the body, but not always. I maybe paranoid but the speaker on the mxp lately seems to be with the volume slightly lower.
My moto e 2015 damaged the speaker this way, and had to be replaced. I know the mxp has some sort of water protection but not much.
Shall I be concerned?
What do you guys do to prevent this?
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Burn it.
No,lol. Maybe some sandwich plastic bag or a snap/zipper bag wil do the job.
Poke some holes in your pocket to let the phone breathe
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Haven't thought about the holes thing. But, putting it in a plastic bag, is even worse. Assuming you were serious about the post.
These are the times I think how nice it must be to have a full waterproof phone!
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Haven't thought about the holes thing. But, putting it in a plastic bag, is even worse. Assuming you were serious about the post.
These are the times I think how nice it must be to have a full waterproof phone!
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More ment the special made smartphone plastic bags. I have seen them before in stores around and these bags are ment for travellers to make it waterproof. What also could help is to wrap the phone in a cotton towel so the sweat/water gets absorbed into the towel instead of the phone.
Oh! Haven't thought of that. Thank you all
I washed by lg g6 with soapy water. Will it affect the phone?
Sorry, but for your own good, you should resist dunking your phone in things it's not designed to be dunked in, especially before recieving confirmation that it is safe.
Washing phones, even water resistant ones, with water containing other chemicals can cause internal corrosion, that may not affect the phone immediately.
I heard about a guy who gave his LG V30 one dunk in chlorine pool water to take an underwater photo and the display was eventually trashed. So... not a great idea. I wish you luck.
I didn't submerge the phone in the stuff though
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I didn't submerge the phone in the stuff though
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Still, consider that it was still washed in water with chemicals in it. If anything, the effects of corrosion may take longer. You should avoid doing this in the future.
No worries, you will be fine
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Still, consider that it was still washed in water with chemicals in it. If anything, the effects of corrosion may take longer. You should avoid doing this in the future.
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I forgot to mention, I did this about 2 weeks ago, but i didn't realize how this can corrode the phone until recently.
well i used my phone underwater 3 times on a pool., and 2 times at a river no probs at all
Afaik it's ok to use the phone underwater in sweet water (pools, rivers and lakes) for a few minutes but you should give it a wash/rinse with tap water to remove dirt and chems. Its ok to use minimal soap if the phone is too greasy but after that always rinse with clear water.
Using it in the salty sea or brine pools is a big no-no because salt is very corrosive. Maybe the first time will be ok, but it's possible it could die in the second or third time, so it's definitely advised to wash it with tap water if it ever touches salty water as soon as possible.
And by the love of everything that is sacred, DONT CHARGE YOUR PHONE AFTER BEING WET. I would even wait like an hour after the notification of "wet usb port" has gone. Blow the usb ports and headphone jack ports and use some microfibre cloth to speed up the drying, water loves to stick to nooks.
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Been 3 weeks since I used soap. I see no signs of water damage.
The only thing I use to clean my phone is the cleaner that comes with eye glasses from an optical store and a micro fiber cloth. I've been doing this for years (since at least the Nexus 4) and never had a problem.
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I washed by lg g6 with soapy water. Will it affect the phone?
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Even though I wouldn't personally recommend submerging or washing your phone daily, I've washed mine with soapy water multiple times, submerged it, hell, I've even ran benchmarks with the phone underwater.... It should be fine, its rated for 1 meter for 30 minutes of submersion.