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Warning about root

if you root this phone and trip knox fuse counter. you will NEVER EVER be able to use the great feature of MST through samsung pay.
My thoughts . since we have a non root hotspot and all bloatware (which isnt that much) can be disabled
the phone has so much customization incl uded i am not rooting the phone. the battery lasts 2 days easy with medium
use. no bugs at all i can find. what more can you ask for.
Remember Root no MST (mst is the ability to use the old card swipers at any location with the phone. it sends card you addeds magnetic strip info to the swiper )
UNLESS you can root without tripping the know counter. its unreversalble
carry on

First phone I've owned that I dont see myself rooting. I really like the Samsung Pay.

Yea I'm coming from the S6 and couldn't use it but enjoying Samsung Pay now

You don't have to worry about that. All US versions are locked down. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3327399

After 8 generations of HTC phones, I decided to try Samsung this year as M10 rumors were they were ditching Boomsound my favorite feature of the M phones. I felt edge was far superior this year at least based on the rumors which getting this close to launch are usually spot on. I was well aware that I was going to have to decide to trip knox or not if I wanted root. While there is more customization and control with Android 6 it still doesn't compare to having everything wide open, especially if you are use to S-OFF.
Is the trade off worth it? Well I think so at least right now, this device is superior to pretty much anything out at the moment. I'm already missing Xposed, Titanium Backup & AdAway. The lock down on these devices is just getting so bad, while I understand they shouldn't come rooted out of the box but give us a choice. We may not even have the option of tripping Knox at this point. Part of the reason I stayed with Sprint for so long is they were more friendly with unlocking phones then big red but everything seems to be going the wrong direction.
Even if root is granted, it will just be patched and it's only going to get more secure and difficult each generation. I guess we just might have to start accepting that this is just how it is. Kinda sad, I'm just so use to having it even back in the Windows Mobile days I was running custom roms.

v8dreaming said:
You don't have to worry about that. All US versions are locked down. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3327399
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No they are already rooted with custom kernels and roms deodexed and odexed

These boys dont.play

Yess of course

I'm fine removing Samsung Pay if I get the benefits of rooting.

Robalboa said:
Works on our phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3335727
ROM stock firmware Samsung Galaxy S7 EDGE SM-G935P ROOT TWRP Drivers
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I thought the bootloader was locked on all the carriers this year?

Someone give it a shot and let us know ?

Sim-X said:
I thought the bootloader was locked on all the carriers this year?
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It still has the unlock bootloader button in developer options just like the S6 had

Soooperstar said:
It still has the unlock bootloader button in developer options just like the S6 had
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Interesting, I'm not gonna go first I still haven't decided if I wanna trip knox or not if the bootloader is in fact able to be unlocked.

Robalboa said:
Works on our phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3335727
ROM stock firmware Samsung Galaxy S7 EDGE SM-G935P ROOT TWRP Drivers
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This link only shows 935F -- not 935P. Am I missing something?

nastypup said:
This link only shows 935F -- not 935P. Am I missing something?
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as stated above there a option to
unlock the bootloader in Dev options. im not sure all the details because i see no benefit to root right now but
they do have the phone rooted and they are modding kernels and system as wee speak. also custom recovery.
TWRP will inject root upon install and start up to reboot.
This is just a warning about root to anyone so they know the Deal with Samsung pay and MST
I do see it says 900f but theres numerous reports of it working on the 900P
you know these guys are flashaholics lol

Robalboa said:
as stated above there a option to
unlock the bootloader in Dev options. im not sure all the details because i see no benefit to root right now but
they do have the phone rooted and they are modding kernels and system as wee speak. also custom recovery.
TWRP will inject root upon install and start up to reboot.
This is just a warning about root to anyone so they know the Deal with Samsung pay and MST
I do see it says 900f but theres numerous reports of it working on the 900P
you know these guys are flashaholics lol
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Thanks for the tip! I'm a huge fan of custom roms and the prospect of xposed so I'm very much looking forward to rooting. I'll wait a little though for a more concrete path and at least a rom to flash.

Robalboa said:
as stated above there a option to
unlock the bootloader in Dev options. im not sure all the details because i see no benefit to root right now but
they do have the phone rooted and they are modding kernels and system as wee speak. also custom recovery.
TWRP will inject root upon install and start up to reboot.
This is just a warning about root to anyone so they know the Deal with Samsung pay and MST
I do see it says 900f but theres numerous reports of it working on the 900P
you know these guys are flashaholics lol
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I've never used Samsung Pay but I need a rooted phone to restore a ton of data. Stock ROM is adequate for me. I played with custom ROMs years ago and they were just a time suck. I was flashing them almost daily. The stock ROM is good as long as its rooted.

nastypup said:
I've never used Samsung Pay but I need a rooted phone to restore a ton of data. Stock ROM is adequate for me. I played with custom ROMs years ago and they were just a time suck. I was flashing them almost daily. The stock ROM is good as long as its rooted.
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Samsung pay is the only way to use MST or use ur phone for old card swipers. But thats your call

Samsung pay is useless to me. And as far as I can tell that's the only benefit to not rooting. I've read there are other benefits but that's the only one I've seen posted, Other than warranty.
To me; rooting is more beneficial. Removing advertising is the biggest. Then a basic debloated rom is second. Adding apps that are not usable on non-rooted phone would be my third reason.

nickmus said:
Samsung pay is useless to me. And as far as I can tell that's the only benefit to not rooting. I've read there are other benefits but that's the only one I've seen posted, Other than warranty.
To me; rooting is more beneficial. Removing advertising is the biggest. Then a basic debloated rom is second. Adding apps that are not usable on non-rooted phone would be my third reason.
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I'm kinda feeling the same way. Can't use Samsung Pay as a total replacement anyway and I just looked they don't even support Capital One cards at least yet anyway. That was one thing google did right back in the day with wallet, you could link any card. Still looks cool but ad block is one of the main reasons I root as well. I'm giving AdGaurd a shot (I use that on my desktop) and you can side load it to Android it creates a local VPN connection to the app to filter all traffic. Kinda annoying you always have a notification saying it's running also doesn't block youtube ads which Xposed worked awesome for that. I miss TI as well. Warranty void I feel so so about. S-OFF you could at least remove a tampered flag on an HTC although HTC would still have record of you doing a dev unlock token even if reset everything.

Custom Rom for SM-G360P please!

Can someone port LINEAGE to this device? I have this phone and it is the slowest kitKat device ever.. my Moto E which for all intents and purposes is the same phone is super speedy compared to this phone. I have tried rooting it and removing all the nonsense system apps and it is still slower than molasses

buzz86us said:
Can someone port LINEAGE to this device? I have this phone and it is the slowest kitKat device ever.. my Moto E which for all intents and purposes is the same phone is super speedy compared to this phone. I have tried rooting it and removing all the nonsense system apps and it is still slower than molasses
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Just so you know, it's an unspoken rule on XDA that no one is supposed to request custom ROMs for their device. Being a dev is no easy job, and requires devotion and hard work. If you want to have a ROM for your phone, either compile it by yourself or at least ask nicely. Thanks :good:

Jrhotrod said:
Just so you know, it's an unspoken rule on XDA that no one is supposed to request custom ROMs for their device. Being a dev is no easy job, and requires devotion and hard work. If you want to have a ROM for your phone, either compile it by yourself or at least ask nicely. Thanks :good:
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well you wouldn't think it'd be too difficult since literally every other version of this device has lolipop

buzz86us said:
well you wouldn't think it'd be too difficult since literally every other version of this device has lolipop
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If it's not too difficult why don't you do it yourself?

not a coder just annoyed that every other version of this phone has some kind of custom rom except this one.. is there any way to strip out all the samsung nonsense and bring the stock rom to a more plain android appearance?

buzz86us said:
not a coder just annoyed that every other version of this phone has some kind of custom rom except this one.. is there any way to strip out all the samsung nonsense and bring the stock rom to a more plain android appearance?
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Best you can do is freeze/disable them. They won't run in the background anymore, and take up less storage :good:
And if I were you, I'd use that Moto E more...
Edit: No way to bring to a stock experience. Xposed works best with this, but even then the most you can do is get a material status bar and Nova Launcher...

You're best bet is to hope some Dev has the same device and time to compile. I know this sucks. I was stuck on KK for long time and suddenly a couple of devs made CM and various ROMs for the device I currently own (g360h).
However IMHO, stock is the best if you can embrace the ugly touchwiz. Custom ROMs always have these small bugs which get annoying as hell like battery drain, lag, random reboots.. SIM network problems... They don't seem much but a week of using custom ROM makes you wanna go back to stock.

Help a novice?

Hello everyone! i just rooted my very first phone a few days ago after alot of thinking, i'm new to this world but i can say that i love it already!
i loved the Lineage OS concept(extremely debloated) but i hated the UI and it didnt have Google apps or samsung apps/theme app.
i'd like to DL the apps/stuff that i'm going to use and dont have alot of crap from the start.. i'd be forever greatful is someone could help me thrue this jungle and point me to the correct rom to use because frankly, i'm sick and tierd of having to spend my days testing/installing other roms.
My phone: Samsung Galaxy s7 Edge, Exynos processor

cheykan said:
i loved the Lineage OS concept(extremely debloated) but i hated the UI and it didnt have Google apps or samsung apps/theme app.
i'd like to DL the apps/stuff that i'm going to use and dont have alot of crap from the start.. i'd be forever greatful is someone could help me thrue this jungle and point me to the correct rom to use because frankly, i'm sick and tierd of having to spend my days testing/installing other roms.
My phone: Samsung Galaxy s7 Edge, Exynos processor
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Welcome to the forums
Alrightyo. First thing, would be useful to have the model number code e.g. mine is G935F . Judging by ur country in ur profile, you should have the G935F (BUT CHECK). Most ROMs support G935F.
It seems like you want a light and clean ROM but dont like the stock google/pixel/nexus interface. I understand that feeling exactly. Therefore I advise a light touchwiz ROM.
I would recommend Decent Ultralite for you https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/rom-decent-ultralite-n1-0-t3543833 . This is the lightest touchwiz ROM for S7 edge that I know of. It is utilitarian, providing excellent functionality, debloat with some minor mods.
And since it is on my signature - I use Superman ROM if you wanna try that out too it is also en excellent choice. It comes with some debloat options but I personally had to give it a bit of liposuction afterwards. It obviously is not as light of a ROM as Decent, but I still get excellent speed and battery (I praise this all the time in my other posts so I wont start here). It comes with many mods and tweaks in the Aroma installer and some extra mods and tweaks in the Superman Settings app that comes with it. Alot of the tweaks make a difference functionally or aesthetically and if you care about UI, this may make a difference to you. https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/rom-s7-edge-rom-v1-1-t3356699
Hope this helps

Thank you for a really good answer Yes i it's an G935F, just loaded up superman atm, been fiddling with it for some time now and i feel a little bit overwhelmed haha, gonna make a backup and try UltraLite and see whats up i'll let you know what i desice to go with.

cheykan said:
Thank you for a really good answer Yes i it's an G935F, just loaded up superman atm, been fiddling with it for some time now and i feel a little bit overwhelmed haha, gonna make a backup and try UltraLite and see whats up i'll let you know what i desice to go with.
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No worries Happy to help. Let me know if you need any help regarding Superman. Let us know how it all goes.

LG G6... Custom rom or not? and Why?...ty

Hi, everyone!
What are the advantages and disadvantages of custom rom for Lg G6?
Now, do you want me to do custom rom or not?
honestly, I'm torn.
And what do you suggest I do?
So thank you all very much, Sparcky

Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.

sparckygoon said:
Hi, everyone!
What are the advantages and disadvantages of custom rom for Lg G6?
Now, do you want me to do custom rom or not?
honestly, I'm torn.
And what do you suggest I do?
So thank you all very much, Sparcky
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Advantages and disadvantages of custom rom
If you have been part of the Android pool for any time, the chances of you hearing the term “custom ROM” is very high. A few months back, I gave a synopsis of rooting. I told what it was and gave its advantages and disadvantages. You may recall that the ability to flash custom ROMs was among the long list of benefits of rooting your Android phone.
DISADVANTAGES
Just as before, I am going to begin with the disadvantages of custom ROMs so that I don't waste the time of the faint of heart, and so you will know just what you are risking. Take the disadvantages seriously. If you do not know what you are doing, you risk turning your shiny, new, Android phone into a very expensive paperweight.
The first and most important drawback to custom ROMs is that you will void your warranty in the processes prior to flashing the ROM. As you may recall, simply rooting your device will void the manufacturer's warranty, and that processes is a prerequisite for flashing a custom ROM. The important disadvantage of custom ROMs is there are usually so many options, it's hard to decide on which one to go with. The solution to this is do your homework. ROMs that aren't widely known are risky and better left for the daring. Also, there is nothing stopping you from trying all of the different ROMs. If you try a ROM that you don't like, reload your backup image or try another.
ADVANTAGES
Now that we have that part out of the way, we can get into the juicy stuff. What is all the hype about? What makes ROM flashing so beneficial to the end user? What is possible when flashing custom ROMs? There are many questions that can be asked and just as many possibilities when using custom software. I'm going to try to cover the most important topics.
The biggest complaint about Android to date is no just fragmentation, but the slow firmware upgrades coming from manufacturers. Official software has to be sent through rigorous testing and numerous levels of approval from the manufacturer and carrier before it reaches users' hands. This can take and usually does take several months.
The most important part is knowing your risks. Always follow instructions intently. Deviating from a developer's set of instructions is asking for trouble. If something goes wrong, there is no one to blame but yourself.

How are you going to use your device?
IMO, if you use your device like most people, I think you can live with a stock ROM.
Moreover, if you are torn, what are the issues you are facing currently with your device? If these issues can be solved by installing a custom ROM, you provided your own answer.

Multiple choice, more fun!

I tried Fulmics, which is stock ROM plus tweaks, and eventually went back to stock ROM with root because it seemed more stable. I haven't tried any of the AOSP-based ROMs yet. I will give Fulmics one more try soon, but honestly the only thing I really miss on the stock ROM is text navigation arrow keys on the navbar when there's a keyboard active, and that's not in Fulmics either.
I might try LineageOS eventually just because they've fixed KRACK and nobody else has yet. But unless Fulmics or an AOSP-based ROM really wow me in some way, I wouldn't really have too much problem staying on rooted stock.

Sam.1211 said:
Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.
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I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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What was the non-root ad block solution you found?

dwasifar said:
the only thing I really miss on the stock ROM is text navigation arrow keys on the navbar when there's a keyboard active,
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what is feature and how do I use it? I'm using the stock keyboard.

zedmarcus said:
What was the non-root ad block solution you found?
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AdClear -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-adclear-root-version-ad-blocker-t3309011

HKSpeed said:
what is feature and how do I use it? I'm using the stock keyboard.
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If you're on the stock ROM, or a stock-based ROM like Fulmics, you don't. That's why I miss it; I'm on the stock ROM.
It's a feature I've seen in AOSP and CAF ROMs on other phones. Basically it adds left and right arrows to the navigation bar when there's a keyboard up, so you can move the cursor around easily.
LineageOS might have it. I don't know, I haven't looked. But I think it was originally a Cyanogenmod invention that got kanged around, so it makes sense that LineageOS might.

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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Idem...Thanks

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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Idem...Thanks
The basic ingredient missing in the "custom rom" is "wide angle" of camera ...It's may as well be an anathema.

Sam.1211 said:
Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.
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Idem...Thanks
The basic ingredient missing in the "custom rom" is "wide angle" of camera ...It's may as well be an anathema.

Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
I am running lineage os on h870 and i get easy 2 days battery life out of it (i disabled almost all background procceses and location and ****)

mingo_mgx said:
Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
I am running lineage os on h870 and i get easy 2 days battery life out of it (i disabled almost all background procceses and location and ****)
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You can get better battery life with a stock ROM and a custom kernel.
You can skin the ROM with custom settings (Xposed) and something like Nova Launcher.

I can live with the custom ROM on phones that don't have a ridiculously modified OS. LG and Samsung, just to name a couple do so many modifications that I really miss LOS.

mingo_mgx said:
Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
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You can use both cameras with OpenCamera. It's in Play Store.

dwasifar said:
You can use both cameras with OpenCamera. It's in Play Store.
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I know but it doesnt have the ported google pixel 2 HDR

dwasifar said:
If you're on the stock ROM, or a stock-based ROM like Fulmics, you don't. That's why I miss it; I'm on the stock ROM.
It's a feature I've seen in AOSP and CAF ROMs on other phones. Basically it adds left and right arrows to the navigation bar when there's a keyboard up, so you can move the cursor around easily.
LineageOS might have it. I don't know, I haven't looked. But I think it was originally a Cyanogenmod invention that got kanged around, so it makes sense that LineageOS might.
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Try Swiftkey and configure it to show arrow keys (cursor keys). I works.

Most Vanilla / Cleanest ROM?

Sorry if this has been asked before.
My phone was recently stolen so I have been using my S4 for over a month now however Samsung's OVER bloated 5.0.1 junk battery munching ROM is horrid and unbearable, its like trying to run Windows Vista!
I do not know anything about customs ROMs, and this will be my first attempt and I'm just looking for a ROM that WORKS without any drama. As Vanilla as humanly possible. Not interested in customizing anything, what ever Google offered stock I will be more then happy.
However I am LOST with all the ROMs listed. Some mention Xposed others mention kernals and its all very confusing and to be honest I just don't care. Can anyone who has tried these just tell me which to go for? I would really appreciate this.
Thanks!

5AL said:
Sorry if this has been asked before.
My phone was recently stolen so I have been using my S4 for over a month now however Samsung's OVER bloated 5.0.1 junk battery munching ROM is horrid and unbearable, its like trying to run Windows Vista!
I do not know anything about customs ROMs, and this will be my first attempt and I'm just looking for a ROM that WORKS without any drama. As Vanilla as humanly possible. Not interested in customizing anything, what ever Google offered stock I will be more then happy.
However I am LOST with all the ROMs listed. Some mention Xposed others mention kernals and its all very confusing and to be honest I just don't care. Can anyone who has tried these just tell me which to go for? I would really appreciate this.
Thanks!
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just try the super wizcyan if you want something clean and smooth but samsung based

5AL said:
Sorry if this has been asked before.
My phone was recently stolen so I have been using my S4 for over a month now however Samsung's OVER bloated 5.0.1 junk battery munching ROM is horrid and unbearable, its like trying to run Windows Vista!
I do not know anything about customs ROMs, and this will be my first attempt and I'm just looking for a ROM that WORKS without any drama. As Vanilla as humanly possible. Not interested in customizing anything, what ever Google offered stock I will be more then happy.
However I am LOST with all the ROMs listed. Some mention Xposed others mention kernals and its all very confusing and to be honest I just don't care. Can anyone who has tried these just tell me which to go for? I would really appreciate this.
Thanks!
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Honestly, since you know nothing about custom ROMs, I'm going to advise you to read. And what I mean by that is do research on what it takes to install a custom ROM properly and how to set it up so it can benefit you. Decide which ROM looks good to you, determine if you can install it on your model then take the necessary steps to do so. Otherwise, if you're not up for that then stay where you are or you will absolutely earn a new paperweight.

agraceful said:
Honestly, since you know nothing about custom ROMs, I'm going to advise you to read. And what I mean by that is do research on what it takes to install a custom ROM properly and how to set it up so it can benefit you. Decide which ROM looks good to you, determine if you can install it on your model then take the necessary steps to do so. Otherwise, if you're not up for that then stay where you are or you will absolutely earn a new paperweight.
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Well I've seen enough YT videos to understand the concept/principle, but I'm just trying to find the most simplest ROM there is. As I use my phone for work also so I can't have it stop working every 2 seconds.
I've used a friends Pixel phone which runs base android essentially. Which ROM here is the equivalent of that?
Thanks!

5AL said:
Well I've seen enough YT videos to understand the concept/principle, but I'm just trying to find the most simplest ROM there is. As I use my phone for work also so I can't have it stop working every 2 seconds.
I've used a friends Pixel phone which runs base android essentially. Which ROM here is the equivalent of that?
Thanks!
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YouTube videos for custom ROMs is beyond moronic. It's not about how it looks, it's about what must go on your phone in order to get to that point of installation. You're looking for a ROM that is pure aosp. I have no idea what version of the s4 you're on but this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...dcteam-android-source-project-nrd90m-t3453084 is pure aosp, based on Android 7.1.2. It worked flawless when I ran it.

Thanks, found this one on YT and it seems fairly straight forward to install, starts from 5:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oeq_c-18aI
Unless I'm missing something here?
Thanks again